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Kirk User ID: 14521628 United States 12/22/2013 12:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Youll find the reason they havent built an aircraft carrier is they are nowdays huge floating coffins Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51560747 If a big war breaks out they will be sunk from space. Exactly, even the US admirals know the df-21 will put every carrier in range on the bottom in the first 5 minutes of a REAL war...wont that be great? 5 or 6 more fuckushimas bubbling away in the pacific... they have advisors that tell them it is not a problem. I used to work with one. Got his degree from BYU. Would tell you with a straight face the solution to nuclear waste is dump it in the ocean. Government is a body largely ungoverned. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 51868781 Portugal 12/22/2013 12:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ^^^ this. Time for an update of 'footage from the moon' hopefully with A SKYFUL OF STARS etc. :) 1st official snapshot by the lander's camera. [link to n37i.img-up.net] They say the rover will take 5 pics or so, rotating 360° in order to provide a panoramic shot. I just can't wait. There's a skull sticking out of the dirt? Top center off the picture. And numerous cilinders half underground!!! Thta pic has lots of artifacts! We want more pics China! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 38722267 United States 12/22/2013 01:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Most likely Obama asked them not to publish more photos because of the discrepancies between those new images and our Nevada desert 'moon' pics. Ever wondered why other countries had to only show black & white moon images? Someone must have paid them dearly... |
Tampa Heather User ID: 31192051 United States 12/22/2013 01:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Youll find the reason they havent built an aircraft carrier is they are nowdays huge floating coffins Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51560747 If a big war breaks out they will be sunk from space. Exactly, even the US admirals know the df-21 will put every carrier in range on the bottom in the first 5 minutes of a REAL war...wont that be great? 5 or 6 more fuckushimas bubbling away in the pacific... they have advisors that tell them it is not a problem. I used to work with one. Got his degree from BYU. Would tell you with a straight face the solution to nuclear waste is dump it in the ocean. I've heard the same thing before, in regards to the nuclear waste...I'm like "WUTTTT?" But he was so serious I assumed he knew something I didn't? Back to the weapons...I heard transport planes are now fitted with ATL weapons... Last Edited by Tampa Heather on 12/22/2013 01:07 PM What doesn't kill me only makes me stronger... |
Chuckie Joe User ID: 43994092 United States 12/22/2013 01:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ^^^ this. Time for an update of 'footage from the moon' hopefully with A SKYFUL OF STARS etc. :) 1st official snapshot by the lander's camera. [link to n37i.img-up.net] They say the rover will take 5 pics or so, rotating 360° in order to provide a panoramic shot. I just can't wait. Soil looks a little muddy... must've rained recently. Yes, as through this world I've wandered I've seen lots of funny men; Some will rob you with a six-gun, And some with a fountain pen. And as through your life you travel, Yes, as through your life you roam, You won't never see an outlaw Drive a family from their home. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 50359801 United States 12/22/2013 01:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | UPDATE: Quoting: Ford Prefect China's government just released TWO new pics, AGAIN one allegedly taken by the rover and another taken by the lander. NO 360° panoramic images as they promised. IMAGE ( [link to p1.img.cctvpic.com] ) IMAGE ( [link to p1.img.cctvpic.com] ) The rover and lander have taken photos of each other for the fifth and final time. And the next step is scientific survey and exploration. Clear, complete images of the Chang’e-3 lander have been sent back to Earth. The Yutu rover carries a Panoramic Camera for real-time video transmission. The camera provides stereo images in high-resolution, and three-dimensional imaging. LOL total pitch-black sky and the position of the rover's shadow didn't change in ONE week. ------------------------ UPDATE: IMAGE ( [link to p4.img.cctvpic.com] ) This is the alleged pic of the lander Chang'E 3 taken by the rover, and it looks a CGI job to me. The quality is way inferior to the pic of the rover, and it should be exactly the opposite, as long as the cameras of the rover are supposed to take hi-res images. But what bothers me most is that EARTH is nowhere to be seen in the sky behind the lander, but the satellite dish of the rover is pointed in that direction. IMAGE ( [link to p2.img.cctvpic.com] ) ---------------------------------------------------- UPDATE: The mission specialist claim the command center is downloading the images in almost-real-time (20 seconds delay), what means there's no time for tampering. [link to n37i.img-up.net] ------------------------------------------------------ Besides the fact that NO stars are seen in the sky whatsoever, pay attention to what seems to be the reflection of the right solar panel on the ground. That look odd to me. Of course the shy is going to be totally black. The surface of the moon is very bright and the camera's exposure settings would have to adjust for that, which would cause the sky to be black. What's so hard to understand about that? Try taking a picture of your cars headlights at night and see if you can also see the stars in the sky. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 42799151 United States 12/22/2013 01:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Youll find the reason they havent built an aircraft carrier is they are nowdays huge floating coffins Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51560747 If a big war breaks out they will be sunk from space. Exactly, even the US admirals know the df-21 will put every carrier in range on the bottom in the first 5 minutes of a REAL war...wont that be great? 5 or 6 more fuckushimas bubbling away in the pacific... they have advisors that tell them it is not a problem. I used to work with one. Got his degree from BYU. Would tell you with a straight face the solution to nuclear waste is dump it in the ocean. I've heard the same thing before, in regards to the nuclear waste...I'm like "WUTTTT?" But he was so serious I assumed he knew something I didn't? Back to the weapons...I heard transport planes are now fitted with ATL weapons... Let's shoot all the waste to the Sun |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 51583376 United States 12/22/2013 01:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | UPDATE: Quoting: Ford Prefect China's government just released TWO new pics, AGAIN one allegedly taken by the rover and another taken by the lander. NO 360° panoramic images as they promised. IMAGE ( [link to p1.img.cctvpic.com] ) IMAGE ( [link to p1.img.cctvpic.com] ) The rover and lander have taken photos of each other for the fifth and final time. And the next step is scientific survey and exploration. Clear, complete images of the Chang’e-3 lander have been sent back to Earth. The Yutu rover carries a Panoramic Camera for real-time video transmission. The camera provides stereo images in high-resolution, and three-dimensional imaging. LOL total pitch-black sky and the position of the rover's shadow didn't change in ONE week. ------------------------ UPDATE: IMAGE ( [link to p4.img.cctvpic.com] ) This is the alleged pic of the lander Chang'E 3 taken by the rover, and it looks a CGI job to me. The quality is way inferior to the pic of the rover, and it should be exactly the opposite, as long as the cameras of the rover are supposed to take hi-res images. But what bothers me most is that EARTH is nowhere to be seen in the sky behind the lander, but the satellite dish of the rover is pointed in that direction. IMAGE ( [link to p2.img.cctvpic.com] ) ---------------------------------------------------- UPDATE: The mission specialist claim the command center is downloading the images in almost-real-time (20 seconds delay), what means there's no time for tampering. [link to n37i.img-up.net] ------------------------------------------------------ Besides the fact that NO stars are seen in the sky whatsoever, pay attention to what seems to be the reflection of the right solar panel on the ground. That look odd to me. hsvent read any replies, yet. my first impression is what are all those fences in the background for???? those are FENCES...right? look like it to me, idk what else they would be seeing as how this is the damn MOON wth |
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Ford Prefect (OP) User ID: 51815235 Brazil 12/22/2013 01:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | UPDATE: Quoting: Ford Prefect China's government just released TWO new pics, AGAIN one allegedly taken by the rover and another taken by the lander. NO 360° panoramic images as they promised. IMAGE ( [link to p1.img.cctvpic.com] ) IMAGE ( [link to p1.img.cctvpic.com] ) The rover and lander have taken photos of each other for the fifth and final time. And the next step is scientific survey and exploration. Clear, complete images of the Chang’e-3 lander have been sent back to Earth. The Yutu rover carries a Panoramic Camera for real-time video transmission. The camera provides stereo images in high-resolution, and three-dimensional imaging. LOL total pitch-black sky and the position of the rover's shadow didn't change in ONE week. ------------------------ UPDATE: IMAGE ( [link to p4.img.cctvpic.com] ) This is the alleged pic of the lander Chang'E 3 taken by the rover, and it looks a CGI job to me. The quality is way inferior to the pic of the rover, and it should be exactly the opposite, as long as the cameras of the rover are supposed to take hi-res images. But what bothers me most is that EARTH is nowhere to be seen in the sky behind the lander, but the satellite dish of the rover is pointed in that direction. IMAGE ( [link to p2.img.cctvpic.com] ) ---------------------------------------------------- UPDATE: The mission specialist claim the command center is downloading the images in almost-real-time (20 seconds delay), what means there's no time for tampering. [link to n37i.img-up.net] ------------------------------------------------------ Besides the fact that NO stars are seen in the sky whatsoever, pay attention to what seems to be the reflection of the right solar panel on the ground. That look odd to me. Of course the shy is going to be totally black. The surface of the moon is very bright and the camera's exposure settings would have to adjust for that, which would cause the sky to be black. What's so hard to understand about that? Try taking a picture of your cars headlights at night and see if you can also see the stars in the sky. The "exposure" explanation dies here: Why can't you see stars during the day? Quoting: [link to curious.astro.cornell.edu] Stars do glow during the day, but we can't see them because of the glare of sunlight. When the sun is up, the blue color in sunlight gets scattered all over the atmosphere, turning the sky the familiar bright blue color. This blue light is much brighter than the faint light coming from the stars, so it prevents us from seeing them. If you were standing on the Moon, for instance, where there is no atmosphere, you would see the stars both day and night. But, but, but.... It's a tough galaxy. If you want to survive, you've gotta know...where your towel is. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 50359801 United States 12/22/2013 01:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | UPDATE: Quoting: Ford Prefect China's government just released TWO new pics, AGAIN one allegedly taken by the rover and another taken by the lander. NO 360° panoramic images as they promised. IMAGE ( [link to p1.img.cctvpic.com] ) IMAGE ( [link to p1.img.cctvpic.com] ) The rover and lander have taken photos of each other for the fifth and final time. And the next step is scientific survey and exploration. Clear, complete images of the Chang’e-3 lander have been sent back to Earth. The Yutu rover carries a Panoramic Camera for real-time video transmission. The camera provides stereo images in high-resolution, and three-dimensional imaging. LOL total pitch-black sky and the position of the rover's shadow didn't change in ONE week. ------------------------ UPDATE: IMAGE ( [link to p4.img.cctvpic.com] ) This is the alleged pic of the lander Chang'E 3 taken by the rover, and it looks a CGI job to me. The quality is way inferior to the pic of the rover, and it should be exactly the opposite, as long as the cameras of the rover are supposed to take hi-res images. But what bothers me most is that EARTH is nowhere to be seen in the sky behind the lander, but the satellite dish of the rover is pointed in that direction. IMAGE ( [link to p2.img.cctvpic.com] ) ---------------------------------------------------- UPDATE: The mission specialist claim the command center is downloading the images in almost-real-time (20 seconds delay), what means there's no time for tampering. [link to n37i.img-up.net] ------------------------------------------------------ Besides the fact that NO stars are seen in the sky whatsoever, pay attention to what seems to be the reflection of the right solar panel on the ground. That look odd to me. Of course the shy is going to be totally black. The surface of the moon is very bright and the camera's exposure settings would have to adjust for that, which would cause the sky to be black. What's so hard to understand about that? Try taking a picture of your cars headlights at night and see if you can also see the stars in the sky. The "exposure" explanation dies here: Why can't you see stars during the day? Quoting: [link to curious.astro.cornell.edu] Stars do glow during the day, but we can't see them because of the glare of sunlight. When the sun is up, the blue color in sunlight gets scattered all over the atmosphere, turning the sky the familiar bright blue color. This blue light is much brighter than the faint light coming from the stars, so it prevents us from seeing them. If you were standing on the Moon, for instance, where there is no atmosphere, you would see the stars both day and night. But, but, but.... Seeing the stars with your eyes and taking a picture are two different things. Go try it for yourself. try taking a picture of a streetlight at night and see if the stars show up your picture. |
Ford Prefect (OP) User ID: 51815235 Brazil 12/22/2013 01:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Someone help me out here: The lander snapped the rover two times, the terrain has changed which suggests the rover also changed direction but there's NO trails of turning on the ground. [link to n24i.img-up.net] I mean, first the rover went til the edge of a crater, then turned 360° on its own pivot, either drove back in the exact same trail or took off flying until the other side of the lander, is that correct?? And the direction of its shadow is the same the whole time. Last Edited by Ford Prefect on 12/22/2013 01:40 PM It's a tough galaxy. If you want to survive, you've gotta know...where your towel is. |
Ford Prefect (OP) User ID: 51815235 Brazil 12/22/2013 01:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | UPDATE: Quoting: Ford Prefect China's government just released TWO new pics, AGAIN one allegedly taken by the rover and another taken by the lander. NO 360° panoramic images as they promised. ... LOL total pitch-black sky and the position of the rover's shadow didn't change in ONE week. ------------------------ UPDATE: IMAGE ( [link to p4.img.cctvpic.com] ) This is the alleged pic of the lander Chang'E 3 taken by the rover, and it looks a CGI job to me. The quality is way inferior to the pic of the rover, and it should be exactly the opposite, as long as the cameras of the rover are supposed to take hi-res images. But what bothers me most is that EARTH is nowhere to be seen in the sky behind the lander, but the satellite dish of the rover is pointed in that direction. IMAGE ( [link to p2.img.cctvpic.com] ) ---------------------------------------------------- UPDATE: The mission specialist claim the command center is downloading the images in almost-real-time (20 seconds delay), what means there's no time for tampering. [link to n37i.img-up.net] ------------------------------------------------------ Besides the fact that NO stars are seen in the sky whatsoever, pay attention to what seems to be the reflection of the right solar panel on the ground. That look odd to me. Of course the shy is going to be totally black. The surface of the moon is very bright and the camera's exposure settings would have to adjust for that, which would cause the sky to be black. What's so hard to understand about that? Try taking a picture of your cars headlights at night and see if you can also see the stars in the sky. The "exposure" explanation dies here: Why can't you see stars during the day? Quoting: [link to curious.astro.cornell.edu] Stars do glow during the day, but we can't see them because of the glare of sunlight. When the sun is up, the blue color in sunlight gets scattered all over the atmosphere, turning the sky the familiar bright blue color. This blue light is much brighter than the faint light coming from the stars, so it prevents us from seeing them. If you were standing on the Moon, for instance, where there is no atmosphere, you would see the stars both day and night. But, but, but.... Seeing the stars with your eyes and taking a picture are two different things. Go try it for yourself. try taking a picture of a streetlight at night and see if the stars show up your picture. Yet the lack of lunar atmosphere would allow the camera to catch a faint bright of stars in the background, as we can see in 45 yo pictures taken by the Russian Lunokhod rover: [link to g41i.img-up.net] [link to k64i.img-up.net] You want me to believe that Russians photographed stars in the lunar sky with analogical cameras half century ago and modern hi-res digital can't do it??? Last Edited by Ford Prefect on 12/22/2013 01:50 PM It's a tough galaxy. If you want to survive, you've gotta know...where your towel is. |
Buster_Cap_In_Yo_Ass User ID: 20780698 United Kingdom 12/22/2013 01:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | UPDATE: Quoting: Ford Prefect China's government just released TWO new pics, AGAIN one allegedly taken by the rover and another taken by the lander. NO 360° panoramic images as they promised. IMAGE ( [link to p1.img.cctvpic.com] ) IMAGE ( [link to p1.img.cctvpic.com] ) The rover and lander have taken photos of each other for the fifth and final time. And the next step is scientific survey and exploration. Clear, complete images of the Chang’e-3 lander have been sent back to Earth. The Yutu rover carries a Panoramic Camera for real-time video transmission. The camera provides stereo images in high-resolution, and three-dimensional imaging. LOL total pitch-black sky and the position of the rover's shadow didn't change in ONE week. ------------------------ UPDATE: IMAGE ( [link to p4.img.cctvpic.com] ) This is the alleged pic of the lander Chang'E 3 taken by the rover, and it looks a CGI job to me. The quality is way inferior to the pic of the rover, and it should be exactly the opposite, as long as the cameras of the rover are supposed to take hi-res images. But what bothers me most is that EARTH is nowhere to be seen in the sky behind the lander, but the satellite dish of the rover is pointed in that direction. IMAGE ( [link to p2.img.cctvpic.com] ) ---------------------------------------------------- UPDATE: The mission specialist claim the command center is downloading the images in almost-real-time (20 seconds delay), what means there's no time for tampering. [link to n37i.img-up.net] ------------------------------------------------------ Besides the fact that NO stars are seen in the sky whatsoever, pay attention to what seems to be the reflection of the right solar panel on the ground. That look odd to me. hsvent read any replies, yet. my first impression is what are all those fences in the background for???? those are FENCES...right? look like it to me, idk what else they would be seeing as how this is the damn MOON wth I call BS. Take a look at the pic of the rover on its own [link to p2.img.cctvpic.com] Now look at the track marks on the ground, that appears to have travelled a distance. The 'turnaround' tracks don't appear as if they would be formed like that either, they would leave mounds of collected dirt and the track marks wouldn't remain that uniform as it would hit resistance and the soil would turn up. But the image appears almost as if someone has created an almost perfect circle with some type of 'Rolling stamp'...if you undrstand what I'm trying to say Also, that picture angle has been taken at height, is the lander camera fitted with a telescopic boost that the camera is fitted on? If not, who or what took that picture at a higher elevation? Last Edited by Buster_Cap_In_Yo_Ass on 12/22/2013 01:52 PM BustercapInyoAss simply translates in its modern sense to the transfer of knowledge. |
SnotNose User ID: 50641211 United States 12/22/2013 01:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Paige Of course the shy is going to be totally black. The surface of the moon is very bright and the camera's exposure settings would have to adjust for that, which would cause the sky to be black. What's so hard to understand about that? Try taking a picture of your cars headlights at night and see if you can also see the stars in the sky. The "exposure" explanation dies here: Why can't you see stars during the day? Quoting: [link to curious.astro.cornell.edu] Stars do glow during the day, but we can't see them because of the glare of sunlight. When the sun is up, the blue color in sunlight gets scattered all over the atmosphere, turning the sky the familiar bright blue color. This blue light is much brighter than the faint light coming from the stars, so it prevents us from seeing them. If you were standing on the Moon, for instance, where there is no atmosphere, you would see the stars both day and night. But, but, but.... Seeing the stars with your eyes and taking a picture are two different things. Go try it for yourself. try taking a picture of a streetlight at night and see if the stars show up your picture. Yet the lack of lunar atmosphere would allow the camera to catch a faint bright of stars in the background, as we can see in 45 yo pictures taken by the Russian Lunokhod rover: [link to g41i.img-up.net] [link to k64i.img-up.net] You want me to believe that Russians photographed stars in the lunar sky with analogical cameras half century ago and modern hi-res digital can't do it??? The exposure explanation does not die there. The dynamic range of the sensor and exposure time, and brightness of the stars in the background are all part of the equation -- your junior high level thinking is insufficient. Thanks again for lowering the overall IQ of the US -- you are what makes this country formerly great. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 2460673 United States 12/22/2013 02:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What I wanna know is why on NASA Apollo color images the Moon has a grey soil and in the Chinese pics the soil is brown/reddish. Quoting: Ford Prefect Ummm, Analog video versus digital? 40+ years of technological advancement? Was black and white film used? I know they were at least still showing black and white TV programs in the early 60's. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 41397337 United States 12/22/2013 02:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | moon conspiracy is one of the funnest... but saying the same thing over and over doesn't make it true There is no evidence on this thread that this was staged or the pics are fake. I'm actually disappointed. nice try OP ...will stay tuned for anything compelling Do you really think the Chinese gov't thinks people are that stupid... The whole world is seeing these photos... and you can bet the ENTIRE scientific community as well (with much scrutiny) Do you really think they (the scientific community-every college) would be keeping their mouth shut if the shadows were wrong??????? shadows? that's where your putting your chips??? blatant pic imagery.??? you cant be serious. |
Rekrov User ID: 16479241 United States 12/22/2013 02:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To everyone bitching about stars not being visible -- stars aren't visible in space Our atmosphere makes starlight visible; stars are generally invisible from space to the wavelength we know as "visible" light, hence the reason for infrared on Hubble, etc DISCLAIMER: For Entertainment Purposes Only |