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Abortion is not a right and it is not a form of birth control, sorry.

 
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Family would have taken care of the child or there is adoption.
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Most importantly we are expecting 100,000,000 million immigrants that will crash our borders and rape women in the US. These terrorists will impregnate intentionally!.

These terrorists will IMPREGNATE INTENTIONALLY.

And the law is now already in place for those Islamic soldiers to be born.

See what's happening here?
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America is being taken over by crazy Evangelicals?
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That want to save babies.
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however, making the baby pay (by murdering it in the womb) for the crime of the pervert, homegrown rapist, immigrant rapefugee, or a legit father
is not right in any case whatsoever
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Making the victim pay is better? lol
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The baby shouldn’t have to pay.
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Most importantly we are expecting 100,000,000 million immigrants that will crash our borders and rape women in the US. These terrorists will impregnate intentionally!.

These terrorists will IMPREGNATE INTENTIONALLY.

And the law is now already in place for those Islamic soldiers to be born.

See what's happening here?
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America is being taken over by crazy Evangelicals?
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That want to save babies.
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It's not a baby before at least 8 weeks.

Also lol they care more about unborn babies than living people.
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however, making the baby pay (by murdering it in the womb) for the crime of the pervert, homegrown rapist, immigrant rapefugee, or a legit father
is not right in any case whatsoever
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Making the victim pay is better? lol
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The baby shouldn’t have to pay.
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Neither should the victim.
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Or she takes the morning after pill after the attack happens at the hospital and the rape is reported to police.
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Why should the morning after pill be OK and not an abortion in the first weeks?

It's basically the same thing
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Hospital have done d&c’s right away. No need to wait weeks. Must be done ASAP. Then you really don’t know if you are pregnant or not. You wait too long and there is no excuse. You have the baby.
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murder a child
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it's not a child before at least 6-8 weeks, and that's being very generous with the definition
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It is a child at conception.
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well ...its a timeline loop anyway ... this happend already before
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I have looked and looked and yet it still eludes me. Does anyone know where the abortion section of the constitution is? I found the part that talks about life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, the key word there being life.

Listen, I don't care what women do with their bodies. An abortion is not about just their body.

Here's how it works;

A woman gets pregnant, her and the man talk about it and they decided on an abortion. She has one.

A woman gets pregnant, her and the man talk about it, she wants an abortion and he does not. She has one.

A woman gets pregnant, her and the man talk about it, she wants to keep it and he does not. She keeps it, raises it and now he pays child support for the rest of his life (18 years).

Where is the choice for the man? If she goes to a clinic with the man, he has no say and no ability to voice his opinion. Whereas she will be asked if anyone is pressuring her or supporting her.

In cases of rape, incest and the mothers health (long and short term) the ability to receive an abortion should be allowed. In every other situation it comes down to personal responsibility. There are condoms, birth control pills, vasectomies for the older guys, tubes getting tied for the older women or the women who already have like 8 kids.

Abortion removes personal responsibility and it is not a form of birth control.

By banning abortion in most cases no woman has lost the ability to control her body. Simply she (and the man) have been told to act like adults and take responsibility for their actions. She still has control over her body. A few examples;

A man and woman want to have sex, he has no condom and she is not on the pill = no sex.

A man and woman want to have sex, he has a condom and she is not on the pill = they either have sex or she says no.

A man and woman want to have sex, she is on the pill and he has no condom = they either have sex or she says no.

Am I missing the part where the guy gets to decide whether sex occurs or not. Men have no power to decide if sex occurs. That's called rape and it's a crime.

sex is a pro-creative act that has pleasuring benefits. It is not a recreational sport nor is it a weapon. It certainly is not there for men and women to do what they will with no regard for consequences.

I would argue that everyone is pro choice. We ALL have the choice to have unprotected sex. However, we are not all pro consequence or pro personal responsibility. Some argue that you should be allowed to do what you want and if unintended consequences happen then you should simply be allowed to pretend they didn't. Others argue that you should be held accountable for your actions. It's that simple.
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Valid points.
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murder a child
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it's not a child before at least 6-8 weeks, and that's being very generous with the definition
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It is a child at conception.
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Nope it's not.

It's 2 cells fused together, a sperm and an ovum.

If a lump of cells must be protected and kept alive then circumcision should be forbidden too. There's more living cells in a foreskin than in a weeks-old fetus
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Family would have taken care of the child or there is adoption.
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You can't guarantee this.
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Adoption is guaranteed. So many people in waiting lists and paying tons of money for a child. Even a special needs one.
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Most importantly we are expecting 100,000,000 million immigrants that will crash our borders and rape women in the US. These terrorists will impregnate intentionally!.

These terrorists will IMPREGNATE INTENTIONALLY.

And the law is now already in place for those Islamic soldiers to be born.

See what's happening here?
 Quoting: MissCleo


America is being taken over by crazy Evangelicals?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1051099


That want to save babies.
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It's not a baby before at least 8 weeks.

Also lol they care more about unborn babies than living people.
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It is a human life at conception.
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however, making the baby pay (by murdering it in the womb) for the crime of the pervert, homegrown rapist, immigrant rapefugee, or a legit father
is not right in any case whatsoever
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Making the victim pay is better? lol
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1051099


The baby shouldn’t have to pay.
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Neither should the victim.
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The baby is the victim if it gets murdered.
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Where is the choice for the baby?
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There is no choice, its a fucking murder plane and simple. Its just that those who benefit or want to do that don't want to be looked down upon, much like homosexuality. The sin they all embrace will be their certain death in the end, no matter what anyone thinks or feels.

But you can walk in and pay your four hundred dollars and kill your baby in the name of what ever ya like, but when you leave, remember they are parting out your child to the highest bidder for thousands, and robbing your child of life for their adrenochrome and thirst to serve!! Which implicates you in their worship of Moloch!skull_fing
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murder a child
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it's not a child before at least 6-8 weeks, and that's being very generous with the definition
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It is a child at conception.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76984449


Nope it's not.

It's 2 cells fused together, a sperm and an ovum.

If a lump of cells must be protected and kept alive then circumcision should be forbidden too. There's more living cells in a foreskin than in a weeks-old fetus
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Taking a piece of skin off is not like snuffing out a life. And it is a life at conception.
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Blah blah blah

The moral police are all always high and mighty until they need one.
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PROVE ANY POINT O.P. MADE IS WRONG OR GTFO..

Birth control is expensive( do you know what it costs to raise a human being to "maturity")?
Here's a 325 grain aspirin($.03).

HOLD IT BETWEEN YOUR KNEES.

Cheap birth control.
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99 years in prison!!! In Europe one gets 15 or 20 years for a murder.
If not stopped, this law risks to put USA on same level as Stalin's regime or worse.

I am against abortions! I walkedon marches for life!!!

But at the same time, i am very much against the modern day inquisition lead by fanatic religious, for presumed crimes of moral character. You think they will stop atabortiobs? Next they will hit the gays!
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I have looked and looked and yet it still eludes me. Does anyone know where the abortion section of the constitution is? I found the part that talks about life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, the key word there being life.

Listen, I don't care what women do with their bodies. An abortion is not about just their body.

Here's how it works;

A woman gets pregnant, her and the man talk about it and they decided on an abortion. She has one.

A woman gets pregnant, her and the man talk about it, she wants an abortion and he does not. She has one.

A woman gets pregnant, her and the man talk about it, she wants to keep it and he does not. She keeps it, raises it and now he pays child support for the rest of his life (18 years).

Where is the choice for the man? If she goes to a clinic with the man, he has no say and no ability to voice his opinion. Whereas she will be asked if anyone is pressuring her or supporting her.

In cases of rape, incest and the mothers health (long and short term) the ability to receive an abortion should be allowed. In every other situation it comes down to personal responsibility. There are condoms, birth control pills, vasectomies for the older guys, tubes getting tied for the older women or the women who already have like 8 kids.

Abortion removes personal responsibility and it is not a form of birth control.

By banning abortion in most cases no woman has lost the ability to control her body. Simply she (and the man) have been told to act like adults and take responsibility for their actions. She still has control over her body. A few examples;

A man and woman want to have sex, he has no condom and she is not on the pill = no sex.

A man and woman want to have sex, he has a condom and she is not on the pill = they either have sex or she says no.

A man and woman want to have sex, she is on the pill and he has no condom = they either have sex or she says no.

Am I missing the part where the guy gets to decide whether sex occurs or not. Men have no power to decide if sex occurs. That's called rape and it's a crime.

sex is a pro-creative act that has pleasuring benefits. It is not a recreational sport nor is it a weapon. It certainly is not there for men and women to do what they will with no regard for consequences.

I would argue that everyone is pro choice. We ALL have the choice to have unprotected sex. However, we are not all pro consequence or pro personal responsibility. Some argue that you should be allowed to do what you want and if unintended consequences happen then you should simply be allowed to pretend they didn't. Others argue that you should be held accountable for your actions. It's that simple.
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Kill em all let god sort em out.
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Where is the choice for the baby?
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There is no choice, its a fucking murder plane and simple. Its just that those who benefit or want to do that don't want to be looked down upon, much like homosexuality. The sin they all embrace will be their certain death in the end, no matter what anyone thinks or feels.

But you can walk in and pay your four hundred dollars and kill your baby in the name of what ever ya like, but when you leave, remember they are parting out your child to the highest bidder for thousands, and robbing your child of life for their adrenochrome and thirst to serve!! Which implicates you in their worship of Moloch!skull_fing
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Women should be shown a film of what happens to the child during an abortion before they get to have one. Then they should have to see the parts afterwards if they decide to go through with it. They will see a little head and arms and legs and a torso. Abortionists have to see these parts to make sure they got the whole baby.
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it's not a child before at least 6-8 weeks, and that's being very generous with the definition
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It is a child at conception.
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Nope it's not.

It's 2 cells fused together, a sperm and an ovum.

If a lump of cells must be protected and kept alive then circumcision should be forbidden too. There's more living cells in a foreskin than in a weeks-old fetus
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Taking a piece of skin off is not like snuffing out a life. And it is a life at conception.
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Skin is alive doofus. It can even be grown in a culture.

You have to be consistant. If you consider a bunch of cells as "life" or "a child" then it's the case for any bunch of cells.

The only way you could claim a 1-day old fetus is a child is through dogma. Not a single fact can back this up.
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99 years in prison!!! In Europe one gets 15 or 20 years for a murder.
If not stopped, this law risks to put USA on same level as Stalin's regime or worse.

I am against abortions! I walkedon marches for life!!!

But at the same time, i am very much against the modern day inquisition lead by fanatic religious, for presumed crimes of moral character. You think they will stop atabortiobs? Next they will hit the gays!
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Gays are corrupting children. You’re right they are next.
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It is a child at conception.
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Nope it's not.

It's 2 cells fused together, a sperm and an ovum.

If a lump of cells must be protected and kept alive then circumcision should be forbidden too. There's more living cells in a foreskin than in a weeks-old fetus
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1051099


Taking a piece of skin off is not like snuffing out a life. And it is a life at conception.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76984449


Skin is alive doofus. It can even be grown in a culture.

You have to be consistant. If you consider a bunch of cells as "life" or "a child" then it's the case for any bunch of cells.

The only way you could claim a 1-day old fetus is a child is through dogma. Not a single fact can back this up.
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Those cells are making a full human right at conception. That is a fact. The process should not be stopped.