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Cumbre Vieja volcano post eruption phase! Time to say goodbye for volcano-thank you for all support :)

 
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That.

We will be in Galveston this weekend doin post hurricane clean up at the vacay house.

Will keep an eye on this.

If she blows we will head out immediately.

What's the worst that could happen? We drive 2 hours home, nothing happens, and I feel like a dummy. On the other hand .... being oceanfront, on an island, is a very bad idea.
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I don't think Galveston would be threatened by a tsunami from La Palma...
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Depends on if, and how much, of the mountain falls into the sea.

Yes, it will wrap around Florida and head into the Gulf. Will not be anything like what hits the East Coast, and we are behind a 12 ft seawall, but even a 9 meter tsunami will blow over that.

I'd rather default to safety on that one. It's only a 2 hour drive back down, and my kids will be able to laugh at Doomy Mom for years if nothing happens.
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Absolutely wise. If it happens and it hits at the maximum on some of the models, not only will there be wrap-around wave energy moving into the Gulf, but also significant water and debris from Florida being pushed into it as well.
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The place is already damaged from the hurricane, may as well toss in tsunami doom as well to make the insurance compay extra happy.

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Latest earthquakes
[link to www.ign.es]

I opened they link in other browser and it works so far
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Simply as a point of interest you can clearly see the results of past deformations of LaPalma due to previous volcanic activity.

[link to upload.wikimedia.org (secure)]

First, LaPalma is the island, Cumbre Vieja is the name of the volcano and it is whats called a "rift" volcano in that it sits directly on a rift zone where two tectonic plates are always under movement. It is this movement that can cause the severe deformation to the point of collapse of the western flank of the island.

When will the eruption or movement of the plates be severe enough to cause the western slope of the island to fall away? Nobody knows...all scientists say is that it's not a case of if but a case of when.
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Ok basically you're telling me that the person (Joe Biden) who was unable to deal with a evacuation of a few thousands of civilians in 2 weeks time that ended with some of them jumping from the landing gear in mid-air.... will be the same person who will have to deal with the evacuation of dozens of millions of people in a few hours??

bert-facepalm
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[imgur] [link to imgur.com]

The Northeast megalopolis (also Northeast Corridor or Acela Corridor; Boston–Washington corridor, Bos-Wash corridor, or Boswash) is the most populous megalopolis located entirely in the United States, with over 50 million residents, as well as the most urbanized megalopolis in the United States and the megalopolis with the world's largest economic output.

Located primarily on the Atlantic Coast in the Northeastern United States, with its lower terminus in the upper Southeast, it runs primarily northeast to southwest from the northern suburbs of Boston to the Northern Virginia suburbs of Washington, D.C.

It includes the major cities of Boston, Providence, Hartford, New York City, Newark, Philadelphia, Baltimore, and Washington, D.C., along with their metropolitan areas and suburbs.


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if you live south of boston like me go to the blue hills reservation between milton/canton...elevation 635
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Very Good idea, but you might have to take a hike from your parked vehicle from 128 so pack a tent to camp etc…
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absolutely the plan...n i got 2 go bags, two totes of food and a couple cases of water ready
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Pressure building up right now? hiding

I worry that this next swarm is going to be on a different level.
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How far inland would this come for New Hampshire?
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Latest earthquakes
[link to www.ign.es]

I opened they link in other browser and it works so far
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Dang...the depth on those are all over the place....not sure what that means other than lots of activity at multiple levels.
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Ok basically you're telling me that the person (Joe Biden) who was unable to deal with a evacuation of a few thousands of civilians in 2 weeks time that ended with some of them jumping from the landing gear in mid-air.... will be the same person who will have to deal with the evacuation of dozens of millions of people in a few hours??

bert-facepalm
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And how are you planning to evacuate your own?
I’m all ears.
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I'm from there but I live in Madrid at the moment. It won't reach this city, but might reach my relatives living in the canaries.

However, it seems that the island of Tenerife will act as a barrier and protect the island where my relatives live if the worst case scenario occurs.
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Ok basically you're telling me that the person (Joe Biden) who was unable to deal with a evacuation of a few thousands of civilians in 2 weeks time that ended with some of them jumping from the landing gear in mid-air.... will be the same person who will have to deal with the evacuation of dozens of millions of people in a few hours??

bert-facepalm
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https://imgur.com/a/P4MSUra


The Northeast megalopolis (also Northeast Corridor or Acela Corridor; Boston–Washington corridor, Bos-Wash corridor, or Boswash) is the most populous megalopolis located entirely in the United States, with over 50 million residents, as well as the most urbanized megalopolis in the United States and the megalopolis with the world's largest economic output.

Located primarily on the Atlantic Coast in the Northeastern United States, with its lower terminus in the upper Southeast, it runs primarily northeast to southwest from the northern suburbs of Boston to the Northern Virginia suburbs of Washington, D.C.

It includes the major cities of Boston, Providence, Hartford, New York City, Newark, Philadelphia, Baltimore, and Washington, D.C., along with their metropolitan areas and suburbs.


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NOBODY short of God himself can evacuate millions of people from these areas in 6-8 hours...it simply can't be done.
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Latest earthquakes
[link to www.ign.es]

I opened they link in other browser and it works so far
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It works for me too but does it update automatically?
And i cant reach the most recent seismograph page, can you?
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If something big happens it will be Breaking News all over the place.
But, most people will stay still and wait for the governments to tell them if they need to evacuate or not. Most people dont even know what is going on or that it may concern them. So we all have an advance.
Imho, if you leave early after the event you can reach higher lands and wait there to see what happens.
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That.

We will be in Galveston this weekend doin post hurricane clean up at the vacay house.

Will keep an eye on this.

If she blows we will head out immediately.

What's the worst that could happen? We drive 2 hours home, nothing happens, and I feel like a dummy. On the other hand .... being oceanfront, on an island, is a very bad idea.
 Quoting: Ladye Jayne Smith





I don't think Galveston would be threatened by a tsunami from La Palma...
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You willing to take that chance? Especially after the wall of energy moves more island debris to push more energy into the GOM?

I would rather look foolish
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Lots of GA folks. I’m near Savannah.
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what kind of activity at local airports and docks?
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If something big happens it will be Breaking News all over the place.
But, most people will stay still and wait for the governments to tell them if they need to evacuate or not. Most people dont even know what is going on or that it may concern them. So we all have an advance.
Imho, if you leave early after the event you can reach higher lands and wait there to see what happens.
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That.

We will be in Galveston this weekend doin post hurricane clean up at the vacay house.

Will keep an eye on this.

If she blows we will head out immediately.

What's the worst that could happen? We drive 2 hours home, nothing happens, and I feel like a dummy. On the other hand .... being oceanfront, on an island, is a very bad idea.
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I don't think Galveston would be threatened by a tsunami from La Palma...
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You willing to take that chance? Especially after the wall of energy moves more island debris to push more energy into the GOM?

I would rather look foolish
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No argument from me on that one.
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News from Spain

“Events are accelerating on the island of La Palma, where the risk of an eruption appears to have increased in recent hours.”
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There are several detailed links in this thread to studies done for the last 20 years.

Bottom line, depending on how much falls off the volcano to start, and what the sea bottom is like approaching the USA East Coast, and then the land elevation, the wave will probably not exceed 75 feet and 12 miles inland. The most doomy scientific ones postulate a worst case 300 foot wave and 20 miles inland. I saw one essay saying 40 miles inland with the most terrible wave. (Florida being so unusually low could be worse penetration inland.)

Some folks here are getting needlessly worried. You need to worry about your water source, disease, and electric source, and what will be gone and what won't. If you have a decent set of preps to last 6 months and are at least 40 miles in- probably 20 is fine- you can stay home and guard your place from hordes of refugees and relax for several months before doing anything major.

The rebuilding will be an economic boom to people near the coast but not too near.
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So, has half the island sunk yet?
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So they continuing to migrate away from the UH-OH spot, right?
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No the more west/NW trend is bad it needs to stay south....
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This.


The UH-OH area is estimated to be a 500 cubic km., and it's in the half part of where the swarm is located on the map.


The UH-OH area was always at the risk of a landslide in the case of a powerful eruption.


The more the quakes are moving away from the UH-OH area (which means lava is rising on a path away from UH-OH area but STILL an area connected or in proximity of UH-OH area) to MORE land is at risk at ADDING to the UH-OH land mass.
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There is this site too...

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What about raleigh, nc? What will the effect be there?

We can get ours out now and send to ozarks. "God" comes in handy twice a day at least

How far inland would this go in the Carilinas? North Carolina specifically.
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My idea here in Savannah GA is to go far into NC/TN problem is only have enough money for one full tank then I'll be begging for gas....... Fucking blows so don't be surprised if I spam my cashapp just sucks this timing sucks,..
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Take that trade stuff

We have 2 properties in GA in the mountains. I'm ready to head out at the moments notice. I'd leave now but if nothing happens the P.O. isn't going to like the lack of notice for my quick departure. Ugh the Man I tell you!
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We have one that is waiting for the crappers to crap out and we thought it would still be a bit.

Simply as a point of interest you can clearly see the results of past deformations of LaPalma due to previous volcanic activity.

[link to upload.wikimedia.org (secure)]

First, LaPalma is the island, Cumbre Vieja is the name of the volcano and it is whats called a "rift" volcano in that it sits directly on a rift zone where two tectonic plates are always under movement. It is this movement that can cause the severe deformation to the point of collapse of the western flank of the island.

When will the eruption or movement of the plates be severe enough to cause the western slope of the island to fall away? Nobody knows...all scientists say is that it's not a case of if but a case of when.
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"La Palma slump" seems like a glitzy enough name to submerge manhattan.
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"MINOR GEOMAGNETIC STORM WATCH: Confidence is growing that a CME might graze Earth's magnetic field on Sept. 17th, possibly sparking minor G1-class geomagnetic storms. The CME left the sun on Sept. 13th, propelled toward us by an exploding filament of magnetism. Tracking this CME has been tricky, because in coronagraph imagery it overlapped at least two other storm clouds. Confusion among simultaneous CMEs increased the uncertainty of the forecast."

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What if vaccines makes bodies decompose differently, less harmful?
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We have 2 properties in GA in the mountains. I'm ready to head out at the moments notice. I'd leave now but if nothing happens the P.O. isn't going to like the lack of notice for my quick departure. Ugh the Man I tell you!
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What about raleigh, nc? What will the effect be there?

We can get ours out now and send to ozarks. "God" comes in handy twice a day at least

How far inland would this go in the Carilinas? North Carolina specifically.
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My idea here in Savannah GA is to go far into NC/TN problem is only have enough money for one full tank then I'll be begging for gas....... Fucking blows so don't be surprised if I spam my cashapp just sucks this timing sucks,..
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Take that trade stuff

We have 2 properties in GA in the mountains. I'm ready to head out at the moments notice. I'd leave now but if nothing happens the P.O. isn't going to like the lack of notice for my quick departure. Ugh the Man I tell you!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72527234

We have one that is waiting for the crappers to crap out and we thought it would still be a bit.

Simply as a point of interest you can clearly see the results of past deformations of LaPalma due to previous volcanic activity.

[link to upload.wikimedia.org (secure)]

First, LaPalma is the island, Cumbre Vieja is the name of the volcano and it is whats called a "rift" volcano in that it sits directly on a rift zone where two tectonic plates are always under movement. It is this movement that can cause the severe deformation to the point of collapse of the western flank of the island.

When will the eruption or movement of the plates be severe enough to cause the western slope of the island to fall away? Nobody knows...all scientists say is that it's not a case of if but a case of when.
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"La Palma slump" seems like a glitzy enough name to submerge manhattan.
All you gotta do is what that jewel of fat ripe nouvous - when cessnas are leaving like pigeon flocks it might be real
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What if vaccines makes bodies decompose differently, less harmful?
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That’s weird. And unrelated. And weird.
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What about raleigh, nc? What will the effect be there?

We can get ours out now and send to ozarks. "God" comes in handy twice a day at least

How far inland would this go in the Carilinas? North Carolina specifically.
 Quoting: The Empress


My idea here in Savannah GA is to go far into NC/TN problem is only have enough money for one full tank then I'll be begging for gas....... Fucking blows so don't be surprised if I spam my cashapp just sucks this timing sucks,..
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Take that trade stuff

We have 2 properties in GA in the mountains. I'm ready to head out at the moments notice. I'd leave now but if nothing happens the P.O. isn't going to like the lack of notice for my quick departure. Ugh the Man I tell you!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72527234

We have one that is waiting for the crappers to crap out and we thought it would still be a bit.

Simply as a point of interest you can clearly see the results of past deformations of LaPalma due to previous volcanic activity.

[link to upload.wikimedia.org (secure)]

First, LaPalma is the island, Cumbre Vieja is the name of the volcano and it is whats called a "rift" volcano in that it sits directly on a rift zone where two tectonic plates are always under movement. It is this movement that can cause the severe deformation to the point of collapse of the western flank of the island.

When will the eruption or movement of the plates be severe enough to cause the western slope of the island to fall away? Nobody knows...all scientists say is that it's not a case of if but a case of when.
 Quoting: FeedYourHead

"La Palma slump" seems like a glitzy enough name to submerge manhattan.
All you gotta do is what that jewel of fat ripe nouvous - when cessnas are leaving like pigeon flocks it might be real
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I just posted this on the last page, wasn't logged in.

Your worries are needless, as far as the wave goes. The Biden response will crash the dollar and we could see all kinds of disease and troubles. Please do basic prepping NOW.

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There are several detailed links in this thread to studies done for the last 20 years.

Bottom line, depending on how much falls off the volcano to start, and what the sea bottom is like approaching the USA East Coast, and then the land elevation, the wave will probably not exceed 75 feet and 12 miles inland. The most doomy scientific ones postulate a worst case 300 foot wave and 20 miles inland. I saw one essay saying 40 miles inland with the most terrible wave. (Florida being so unusually low could be worse penetration inland.)

Some folks here are getting needlessly worried. You need to worry about your water source, disease, and electric source, and what will be gone and what won't. If you have a decent set of preps to last 6 months and are at least 40 miles in- probably 20 is fine- you can stay home and guard your place from hordes of refugees and relax for several months before doing anything major.

The rebuilding will be an economic boom to people near the coast but not too near.
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I’m originally from the island of fuerteventura, and have been to la palma many times in my youth. Thanks for keeping us updated op, hopefully everyone is ready for what could happen.
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What if vaccines makes bodies decompose differently, less harmful?
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That’s weird. And unrelated. And weird.
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So if you have mass casualties, especially on east cost (majority are vaccinated), decomposition would not cause an epidemic on survivors?
Imagine 7-10 millions dead, can you even grasp bacteria levels?
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