The VP Candidates Family

A woman's right to choose over her body works anyway a woman decides....

And when they choose we have to respect that choice...

I think it is disgraceful to call Bristol's baby a problem, or to describe it terms of a social tragedy.

Get over it...it's a choice in life,,,, and if she's fine with it so should we all be...
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She runs on a platform of abstinence before marriage. Maybe she should instill her values in her children and leave ours alone?

A woman's right to choose over her body works anyway a woman decides....

And when they choose we have to respect that choice...

I think it is disgraceful to call Bristol's baby a problem, or to describe it terms of a social tragedy.

Get over it...it's a choice in life,,,, and if she's fine with it so should we all be...


She runs on a platform of abstinence before marriage. Maybe she should instill her values in her children and leave ours alone?


And how are you suppose to control every move your 16-18 yr old child makes?
You cant lock them in a basement until they are 21.

Apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

Republitards...

A woman's right to choose over her body works anyway a woman decides....

And when they choose we have to respect that choice...

I think it is disgraceful to call Bristol's baby a problem, or to describe it terms of a social tragedy.

Get over it...it's a choice in life,,,, and if she's fine with it so should we all be...


She runs on a platform of abstinence before marriage. Maybe she should instill her values in her children and leave ours alone?


And how are you suppose to control every move your 16-18 yr old child makes?
You cant lock them in a basement until they are 21.


Maybe if she received sex education and did not think it was immoral to use a birthcontrol?

"Let this governor advance us to adoring and accepting the entire family and take this blight off early and surprise pregnancies which strikes within all families within their relatives.It should be a family matter and national politics stay out of it..."


You are right, accept the pregnancy. What I do not accept is Sarah Palin lying about being pregnant and delivering a child that was her daughter's.

Is Palin lying about the Down's? Is the Down's made up so that they child can be removed from the public eye whilst she is in public office - because the child belongs to her daughter.

The daughter's current pregnancy is no issue, none, nada. It is the Republican right trying to make the current pregnancy an issue to get the first pregnancy out of the spot light.

I despise lying bitches!

A woman's right to choose over her body works anyway a woman decides....

And when they choose we have to respect that choice...

I think it is disgraceful to call Bristol's baby a problem, or to describe it terms of a social tragedy.

Get over it...it's a choice in life,,,, and if she's fine with it so should we all be...


She runs on a platform of abstinence before marriage. Maybe she should instill her values in her children and leave ours alone?


And how are you suppose to control every move your 16-18 yr old child makes?
You cant lock them in a basement until they are 21.


Maybe if she received sex education and did not think it was immoral to use a birthcontrol?


And how do you know she wasn't educated?
all kids make mistakes thats why there are thousands of teen moms all across the country all of which know what birth control is as well as they guys knowing what condoms are
so no matter how much you teach them its still up to the kids to make the right choice.

A woman's right to choose over her body works anyway a woman decides....

And when they choose we have to respect that choice...

I think it is disgraceful to call Bristol's baby a problem, or to describe it terms of a social tragedy.

Get over it...it's a choice in life,,,, and if she's fine with it so should we all be...


She runs on a platform of abstinence before marriage. Maybe she should instill her values in her children and leave ours alone?


And how are you suppose to control every move your 16-18 yr old child makes?
You cant lock them in a basement until they are 21.


Maybe if she received sex education and did not think it was immoral to use a birthcontrol?

A woman's right to choose over her body works anyway a woman decides....

And when they choose we have to respect that choice...

I think it is disgraceful to call Bristol's baby a problem, or to describe it terms of a social tragedy.

Get over it...it's a choice in life,,,, and if she's fine with it so should we all be...


She runs on a platform of abstinence before marriage. Maybe she should instill her values in her children and leave ours alone?


And how are you suppose to control every move your 16-18 yr old child makes?
You cant lock them in a basement until they are 21.


Maybe if she received sex education and did not think it was immoral to use a birthcontrol?


I am sure she knew all about birth control, and so did the guy. But why are you imposing your morality on her? You dont use birth control if you want a baby, do you?

I am sure she knew all about birth control, and so did the guy. But why are you imposing your morality on her? You dont use birth control if you want a baby, do you?

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If it was up to her mother, I would not have a choice.

Here's why it's impostant:
She has an overall "cult of lies" that surrounds her regarding her family. From her unwanted pregancy at 16 and passing that son off as her brother who is now an alcoholic. Eloping with Todd pregnant. Having affairs with Todd's business partner and the brother in law she is under investigation for having destroyed his and his superior's careers,to hide her lies. Now her daughter repeats Sarah's own history by having her son passed off as her brother(85% of Down's babies are born to women under 35)then in just enough time to get pregnant again...bingo. So now Sarah must start a new round of lies to cover the other lies. She clearly cannot run her own family HOW will she run a country if needed? If I were dumb enough to believe she actually HAD Trig,please explain to me how starving a baby(she obviously gained NO weight;how was the baby fed?) Went on a strenuous hike in the wilderness with a film crew 13 days before supposedly delivering??? Went ahead to TX to give a key speech hours before delivery and then flew and drove all over the place,then was back at work 3 days later??? This is not a good mother nor an example we should be promoting. She wants to promote abstanence in the schools but can't abstain herself??? She made it our business and McCain in his desperation should have vetted her before he picked her not after.

I disagree with Obama to some degree; if the people in question have used their family for political gain, they are the ones who made them people to investigate. Palin's political image is her family, and she wants to march them out in front of everyone and say, "look how great I am, I have a family and can do it all." When she does that, she invites the investigation.

I am sure she knew all about birth control, and so did the guy. But why are you imposing your morality on her? You dont use birth control if you want a baby, do you?

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If it was up to her mother, I would not have a choice.


You? Okay. Was your mother against you getting an abortion? Did she preach to you about abstinance?

I mean really, are these issues really national issues? If you want to turn this into a pro-life pro-choice issue, then follow my lead... Be pro-choice!

Pro-choice means a woman's right to choose, it means govt not interfering by making laws against doctors performing medically safe abortions.

It doesnt mean that there is only one choice.

Or that your mother shouldnt advise you as she fits,,,

I am sure she knew all about birth control, and so did the guy. But why are you imposing your morality on her? You dont use birth control if you want a baby, do you?

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If it was up to her mother, I would not have a choice.


You? Okay. Was your mother against you getting an abortion? Did she preach to you about abstinance?

I mean really, are these issues really national issues? If you want to turn this into a pro-life pro-choice issue, then follow my lead... Be pro-choice!

Pro-choice means a woman's right to choose, it means govt not interfering by making laws against doctors performing medically safe abortions.

It doesnt mean that there is only one choice.

Or that your mother shouldnt advise you as she fits,,,

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As Vice President she will be able to heavily forces her voices on the rest of us.

John McCain cruelly trashed Chelsea Clinton when she was a child in the White House. He told reporters that she was "ugly" "because Janet Reno is her father." Of course, McCain would like us now to accord Palin's daughter the respect he wouldn't give Chelsea.


Get a life.

I disagree with Obama to some degree; if the people in question have used their family for political gain, they are the ones who made them people to investigate. Palin's political image is her family, and she wants to march them out in front of everyone and say, "look how great I am, I have a family and can do it all." When she does that, she invites the investigation.

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SO, we should investigate each and EVERY politician just like this, male or female, because each and every politician does the same thing.

I disagree with Obama to some degree; if the people in question have used their family for political gain, they are the ones who made them people to investigate. Palin's political image is her family, and she wants to march them out in front of everyone and say, "look how great I am, I have a family and can do it all." When she does that, she invites the investigation.

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SO, we should investigate each and EVERY politician just like this, male or female, because each and every politician does the same thing.


It is also sexist to be treating a female candidtate this way, when men's kids have always been given a pass. And beware, McCain strategist are making up commercials right now that will make that point.

They want those Hillary voters real bad...

I disagree with Obama to some degree; if the people in question have used their family for political gain, they are the ones who made them people to investigate. Palin's political image is her family, and she wants to march them out in front of everyone and say, "look how great I am, I have a family and can do it all." When she does that, she invites the investigation.

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SO, we should investigate each and EVERY politician just like this, male or female, because each and every politician does the same thing.


It is also sexist to be treating a female candidtate this way, when men's kids have always been given a pass. And beware, McCain strategist are making up commercials right now that will make that point.

They want those Hillary voters real bad...

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They won't be getting the Hillary vote. Do you really think women are that stupid?

For one, Hillary supporters are anti-gun and pro-choice.

Why would you think he would get the Hillary vote? Because he's got a woman VP candidate who can't even keep her own family straight?

So much for family values.

Oh, isn't it racist to be slandering Obama while we're at it.

If so, then the whole lot of you are nothing but hateful RACISTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

All these stories I see about women who have had children out-of-wedlock at a young age and are supporting this b-s because "oh, they know how it feels" is such crap! Let me tell you alot of women who have children out-of-wedlock are either poor, undereducated and have no outside support. How can they justify supporting such crap! What they do not realize is that being the daughter of a governor comes with a lot of perks and I hardly think that this baby and her daughter are going to be hurtin. They'll be leading such a "charmed" life. Honestly, do you really think this is setting a fine example to these unwed mothers?

Bullshit!

Wake up America!

And while I'm on the topic of setting examples, instead of pretending to be understanding and delaying the convention in order to be there for the victims of Gustav and asking the American public to donate and help the victims rebuild after Gustav, why doesn't McCain sell one of his many houses that he seems to not know know exist and donate it to the Katrina/Gustav victims? We teach by example.

What a crock of shit this election is.

And you the people who go for this bullshit are the stupidest I've ever come across.

Oh, it's okay to you born again nutcases, but if the shoe was on the other foot (Obama's kid) you'd be all over the internet with slanderous remarks and attack ads. The Republicans are good at that.

You sit there and think that you're all "righteous and high and mighty because you're Christians"? Well the whole lot of you are filled with nothing but hypocrisy and evilness in your hearts. There is nothing sincere whatsoever that I have seen in this whole forum.

Prewritten on Sarah Palin ...

McCain Gambles on Inexperienced Conservative
August 29 2008
[link to www.ft.com]
The choice represented a bid by Mr McCain to win over disgruntled former supporters of Hillary Clinton, undercutting Democratic efforts during the convention to reunify the party. Ellen Malcolm, president of Emily’s List, a pro-Democrat group that supports women candidates, challenged the notion that Ms Palin would appeal to former Clinton supporters. “McCain clearly sees the power of women voters in this election but has just as clearly failed to support any of the issues that they care about,” she said, highlighting Ms Palin’s support for overturning the Roe v Wade ruling that legalized abortion.

ZetaTalk Analysis 8/30/2008:
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
Did John McCain shoot himself in the foot with this VP choice? Big time. He was losing, and desperate, as the private polls his campaign had been taking revealed the gap between he and Obama to be far larger than the public polls display. Obama has energized voters, so that many young people and people of color have registered to vote. The new Democratic voters far outnumber new Republican voters, by a factor of 5 or 6 to 1. These new voters are NOT included in the polls poll likely voters – those who voted in the past two presidential elections. Then there is the enthusiasm gap, where Democrats are more likely to make it to the polls in November. Given that the arguments the McCain camp were making were not making any headway against Obama, they were desperate for a game changer. Seeing the significant number of disgruntled Hillary fans making claims they would vote for McCain, this seemed like the largest voter block that could potentially be swung to McCain. So what is wrong with this choice?

First is that he has offended Hillary’s strongest block – older women who had been discriminated against during their lifetime, and treated like second class citizens. Standard fare, after not being given equal pay and opportunity for equal work, is being thrown over for a younger woman. McCain already has been branded for this tendency by his history of running out on my first wife, a former beauty queen who was crippled in a car accident. McCain took up with Cindy, an unspoiled beauty. Now the VP choice, another beauty queen and far younger than McCain. Regardless of all arguments, the element of being dismissive of women’s true qualifications for office, and chosing women only for their beauty, is obvious. This is intuitively obvious to the older women voters McCain hoped to attract. Standing next to McCain, Palin seemed like his mistress, a reminder of McCain’s age as his ATTITUDES toward woman is from a different era. Obama has a wife who is a strong woman, competent and even earning more money than he at her day job. McCain now stands in contrast to Obama on this issue, and is losing on this issue to an extent not yet evident in the polls.

Second, McCain has gone beyond his tendency to surround himself with lobbyists and to be susceptible to money interests and plunged himself into a new and very fresh scandal – abuse of power. The Keating 5 scandal is in McCain’s past, where he went to bat for Keating during the Savings and Loan crisis, trying to get regulators to go easy on his friend Keating. This is far enough in the past to be put aside by most voters, but what does his choice of Palin as VP say about his judgement and tendencies? She is embroiled in a controversy, an investigation, that could result in impeachment proceedings against her in Alaska. Without question she wanted to fire her former brother-in-law from his job as a state trooper and insisted, in person and through intermediaries, that this be done. This in and of itself would be considered a light-weight scandal in scandal-prone Alaska, but when she fired the highly competent head of the Department of Public Safety simply because he refused to do her bidding she crossed the line. This is not only criminal
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