Christians: Could We Be Farther Along in Revelation Then We Thought?

you any good s. Africa?

If you have something positive to add to the topic of this thread, go ahead.

If you just want to troll, then move on.

The Ireland poster has been banned. He's a constant troll that uses sock puppet accounts to bypass it. The admin has been made aware of it. End of story.

Not sure, but I think it's more then spiritual because people will actually be destroyed, and the earth burned up.

And, when Jesus was ascending in the clouds it was said that He would return in the same exact way.

So, I think His return is literal.

Yea, I think alot of people would be rethinking their positions. Especially the atheists.

Some say I am :-)

Well to me, this is positive to say, because it is true. You don't know who you are talking to.

Go play your little games elsewhere Ireland. I'm not interested.

This is a discussion, not your playground to troll and harass.

I think it's literal too. As a matter of fact, I wonder about the 'cloud' He will return from. After reading about the discover of 'fluff' fluffy cloudy' in space...Could it be the 'cloud' he will return from? Just thinkin...

no, we wont

I bet you will!

nothing short of jesus, god (christian god) or the holy spirit themselves coming down from the sky and revealing themselves would make any of us believe in the christian myth.

Well, that will happen. Then, what are you going to do?

in the event that actually happens then there would be no denying.

Yes

Found this in 5 year old thread somewhere, but the author has valid thoughts...


"6th seal , 6th trump , 6th vial. Notice three 6s. that is 666. The bible states that it is the number of a man. It is satan . He is that " abomination that causes desolation" that is written of in 2nd Thessalonians. And also spoken of by the prophet Joel. Satan comes to earth and sets himself up in the temple in Jerusalem pretending to be Christ / God. But as it is written in Matthew 24 , Mark 13 and Luke 21 ." Let no man deceive you , that the return of OUR Lord does not happen until after the falling away occurs first ( people believing satan is Christ). Yes , Satan appears defacto at the 6th trump,6th vial and 6th seal. The real Christ returns at the 7th trump ,7th seal and the 7th vial. So 6 comes before 7, keep that in mind lest you be harvested out of season..let the wise understand."


Here's scripture:


Rev 6:12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;
Rev 6:13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.
Rev 6:14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.
Rev 6:15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;
Rev 6:16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:
Rev 6:17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

Rev 9:13-19 Then the sixth angel blew his trumpet, and I heard a voice from the four horns of the golden altar before God, saying to the sixth angel who had the trumpet, “Release the four angels who are bound at the great river Euphrates.” So the four angels, who had been prepared for the hour, the day, the month, and the year, were released to kill a third of mankind. The number of mounted troops was twice ten thousand times ten thousand; I heard their number. And this is how I saw the horses in my vision and those who rode them: they wore breastplates the color of fire and of sapphire and of sulfur, and the heads of the horses were like lions' heads, and fire and smoke and sulfur came out of their mouths. By these three plagues a third of mankind was killed, by the fire and smoke and sulfur coming out of their mouths. For the power of the horses is in their mouths and in their tails, for their tails are like serpents with heads, and by means of them they wound.

Rev 16:12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.
Rev 16:13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
Rev 16:14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
Rev 16:15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
Rev 16:16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.
Rev 16:17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.
Rev 16:18 And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great.
Rev 16:19 And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.
Rev 16:20 And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found.
Rev 16:21 And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, every stone about the weight of a talent: and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail; for the plague thereof was exceeding great.

Blessings Lisa!

It's been bugging me lately too, because we think we know, but we really might not know how it's all coming down.

If you divide Revelation into three parts..I think we are in part number three

Not funny.
He can't repent.
He's already been tried and convicted.

666 equals Lucifer shows up in the 6th vial, 6th seal, 6th trump.

Jesus shows up in the 7th trump, the last one and blessed be the most important.

Praise God!

I recall reading that a false tribulation would precede the real one.

As another pointed out, trees and seas still fairly fine.

signs signs everywhere signs

Right, but my point is that maybe revelation isn't talking about literal trees and seas.

Like the stars in revelation are talking about spiritual beings. Obviously, not a literal star.

Look: Revelation 9:1-2 "The fifth angel sounded his trumpet, and I saw a star that had fallen from the sky to the earth. The star was given the key to the shaft of the Abyss.When he opened the Abyss, smoke rose from it like the smoke from a gigantic furnace. The sun and sky were darkened by the smoke from the Abyss."

Revelation also talks about the Lampstands and Fig tree, which are people, not literal trees and lampstands.

Also "sea" means something entirely different then the oceans, look [link to www.biblemeanings.info]

Iraq war..when the oil wells were set on fire smoked and all was blackened..even the sun couldnt be seen ..my opinion

Well, I tend to think that the events are echoed through all aspects, spritual, material, symbolic, cosmic, etc.

Right! and maybe scripture may not be talking about clouds as we see them for the return of Christ...

I wonder about this 'cloud' He will return from. After reading about the discover of 'fluff' fluffy cloudy' inter-stellar space as our galaxy is turning...Could it be the fluff cloud in inter-stellar space was a description of the 'cloud' he will return from? Just thinkin...

Well, let's think about this. The book of revelation is all symbolic, but other books are more literal.

Acts 1:10-11 says "They were looking intently up into the sky as he was going, when suddenly two men dressed in white stood beside them. "Men of Galilee," they said, "why do you stand here looking into the sky? This same Jesus, who has been taken from you into heaven, will come back in the same way you have seen him go into heaven."

I think that sounds pretty literal to me, don't you think?

Maybe......

Maybe......

I agree w/Lisa. It's possible much of it is spiritual. When "a third of mankind" will be killed..couldn't that mean that a third of mankind will forsake God, never believing...thus being "dead"?

Just thinking out loud. :)

Maybe......

It's all very interesting and I guess we just have to wait and find out for sure.