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Minimum wage now $9 an hour!!!! | |
Veresanctus  User ID: 26108394  United States02/12/2013 10:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So is this a flat rate regardless of age and etc? If so, screw that. Is shit like china cheap or something? How the heck do people survive on that @ 40 hrs a week? Barely if at all GET SAVED: Thread: Are you SAVED from DAMNATION? "For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another. This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law. Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26 |
| ~IS~ User ID: 1267719 United States02/12/2013 10:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was in management when the wage in AZ was raised to $7.25 an hour. We just cut hours like a sonofabitch to make up the difference. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5915501 In these corporate fast food joints, every cent is tracked. Food costs can be controlled to a point but nothing can be controlled like labor can. They will cut labor hours before they pass the cost along to the customers. Don't forget they have share holders to keep happy and must show an increasing profit year over year. i wont be happening much longer , the prices are out of hand already. 9 an hour will kill fast food. even if you hire 10 year old kids. |
| Veresanctus User ID: 26108394 United States02/12/2013 10:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was in management when the wage in AZ was raised to $7.25 an hour. We just cut hours like a sonofabitch to make up the difference. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5915501 In these corporate fast food joints, every cent is tracked. Food costs can be controlled to a point but nothing can be controlled like labor can. They will cut labor hours before they pass the cost along to the customers. Don't forget they have share holders to keep happy and must show an increasing profit year over year. EXACTLY! Higher required pay = Fewer Jobs and hours When will the Socialists learn, MONEY does NOT grow on trees, it has to be earned and then spent Last Edited by Veresanctus on 02/12/2013 10:43 PM GET SAVED: Thread: Are you SAVED from DAMNATION? "For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another. This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law. Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26 |
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| Veresanctus User ID: 26108394 United States02/12/2013 10:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was in management when the wage in AZ was raised to $7.25 an hour. We just cut hours like a sonofabitch to make up the difference. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5915501 In these corporate fast food joints, every cent is tracked. Food costs can be controlled to a point but nothing can be controlled like labor can. They will cut labor hours before they pass the cost along to the customers. Don't forget they have share holders to keep happy and must show an increasing profit year over year. i wont be happening much longer , the prices are out of hand already. 9 an hour will kill fast food. even if you hire 10 year old kids. DO you see the destruction of the US economy? I do unfortunately and it depresses the heck out of me GET SAVED: Thread: Are you SAVED from DAMNATION? "For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another. This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law. Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26 |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 26050784 United States02/12/2013 10:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So you guys are upset that we have a lot of people who are lazy and don't go to work, but you're also upset that people who actually hold a job and get up every day to go to work get paid more? What the fuck? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33432712 repubs are schizo as fuck. Nah, we're just not dumb ass libtards. We realize its pointless to raise minimum wage, as that just means prices will rise accordingly to make that rise in wage meaningless. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 26993662 United States02/12/2013 10:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think its a smart idea. Obama also wants the minimum wage to go up along with cost of living. This will help keep the cost of living down because companies won't want to pay their minimum wage employees more money. Its about time that these damn companies start paying, even if it is only $9.00/hr. How anyone can live on $7.25/hr now is crazy. Then you have the big CEO's giving themselves big raises and thousands of dollars bonuses. I would raise minimum wage to $15. These CEO's are part of whats driving the middle class down into poverty. Don't like my comments, well then just kiss my ass.  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 32716157 United States02/12/2013 10:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I work at a place where they pay their employees only 9 dollars an hour which in oregon is only 5 cents above minimum wage...talk about a fucking slap in the face. 12hr shifts too...pay of course depends on shift and it's varies because of the 12hrs and we get 10 for grave, ect but it's slave labor people. Some idiots are bitching about the minimum wage increasing if that's a bad thing? like the poor save do not desereve it? For real people...? Money does actually grow on trees for those who don't think that is does. It's printed on paper last time I checked fucking iditos lol Of course you have precious jems, metals, gold ect,ect,ect-different forms of currency but "our" monetary system as well as many others too is based on debt and the printing of money until it's completely taken over by computers and then of course it'll all be digitalized in a computer chip based system. Raising the minimum wage is just a way to keep up with inflation lol the cost of living, ect,ect,ect Nothing is really changing haha same ol same ol...you still going to be a slave tmrw as you were yesterday until the day you die...so what's the point getting worked up about things you can't even change anyway. you are powerless...get over it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29091096 Why do you "deserve" a 15% government mandated raise? All it will do is increase the price of everything for everyone else. Its just another way to take from those that actually did something with their lives and give to the losers ie Obama voters. If you're an adult making minimum wage, you made some very bad choices in life. Deal with it. |
| ~IS~ User ID: 1267719 United States02/12/2013 10:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I live on the outskirts of l.a. Quoting: tired of this 26665965 I make 9$ an hour. Thankful i have a job, but at the same time its beyond discouraging. About to get kicked out on the street. No way i can live off this. if they raise it tell the compnay you want 2.50 more an hour to keep up with minimum wage inflation. If they refuse tell them to f'k off and quit. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 12938566 United States02/12/2013 10:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So you guys are upset that we have a lot of people who are lazy and don't go to work, but you're also upset that people who actually hold a job and get up every day to go to work get paid more? What the fuck? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33432712 Problem is us taxpayers making $20 an hour can buy that much less now. Where is the incentive going to be for those flipping burgers to better themselves when my wife with 3 college degrees is only making $14/hr and im sure her paycheck isnt going up 25% due to this. Those of us in middle class are slowly getting pushed toward the poor - soon it wont be worth working ... |
| Shelgeyr User ID: 6321116 United States02/12/2013 10:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think its a smart idea. Obama also wants the minimum wage to go up along with cost of living. This will help keep the cost of living down because companies won't want to pay their minimum wage employees more money. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26993662 Its about time that these damn companies start paying, even if it is only $9.00/hr. How anyone can live on $7.25/hr now is crazy. Then you have the big CEO's giving themselves big raises and thousands of dollars bonuses. I would raise minimum wage to $15. These CEO's are part of whats driving the middle class down into poverty. Don't like my comments, well then just kiss my ass. "I think its a smart idea. Obama also wants the minimum wage to go up along with cost of living." Really??? That's circular anti-logic at its best! "Don't like my comments, well then just kiss my ass." Can't, sorry, your own lips are in the way. |
| IRQ_1 User ID: 24600584 United States02/12/2013 10:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As much as I support free market concepts it seems naive to me to consider that the heads of most major industries DON'T meet and decide the going rates they offer and agree to for their own mutual profit amongst one another. That said it's NOT the Executive branches place to have a say in this matter. The laws the people agree to (via congress)*1 are quite clear in what a minimum wage is. *1  Jack of all trades master of none "shall not be infringed." BLUE RIBBON AWARNESS FOR MENS' HEALTH Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent. --ISAAC ASIMOV I never 'Ad hominem' I don't need to. The Constitution means everything or nothing. You can't have both. |
| ~IS~ User ID: 1267719 United States02/12/2013 10:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So you guys are upset that we have a lot of people who are lazy and don't go to work, but you're also upset that people who actually hold a job and get up every day to go to work get paid more? What the fuck? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33432712 Problem is us taxpayers making $20 an hour can buy that much less now. Where is the incentive going to be for those flipping burgers to better themselves when my wife with 3 college degrees is only making $14/hr and im sure her paycheck isnt going up 25% due to this. Those of us in middle class are slowly getting pushed toward the poor - soon it wont be worth working ... If they do this , my pay will go up or ill find a different job..... f'k this shit. |
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| Veresanctus User ID: 26108394 United States02/12/2013 10:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So you guys are upset that we have a lot of people who are lazy and don't go to work, but you're also upset that people who actually hold a job and get up every day to go to work get paid more? What the fuck? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33432712 Problem is us taxpayers making $20 an hour can buy that much less now. Where is the incentive going to be for those flipping burgers to better themselves when my wife with 3 college degrees is only making $14/hr and im sure her paycheck isnt going up 25% due to this. Those of us in middle class are slowly getting pushed toward the poor - soon it wont be worth working ... You'll be in the position of "work or you'll starve" instead of working to better yourself and grow all you will be able to do is survive. More and more people are falling in that pit GET SAVED: Thread: Are you SAVED from DAMNATION? "For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another. This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law. Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26 |
| TechnicalAnarchy User ID: 33596998 United States02/12/2013 10:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| 4D Viewer (OP) User ID: 22500638 United States02/12/2013 10:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So you guys are upset that we have a lot of people who are lazy and don't go to work, but you're also upset that people who actually hold a job and get up every day to go to work get paid more? What the fuck? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33432712 repubs are schizo as fuck. You guys don't get it!! It does not fix anything. If wage goes up that may result in jobloss, shorter shifts, and rise in prices of good."for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction" "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 18381151 United States02/12/2013 10:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think he was setting us up for 9 being the maximum wage. Give him time. Quoting: TechnicalAnarchy 33596998 Social Secrity rates will increase next. [link to www.businessinsider.com] |
| Veresanctus User ID: 26108394 United States02/12/2013 10:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So you guys are upset that we have a lot of people who are lazy and don't go to work, but you're also upset that people who actually hold a job and get up every day to go to work get paid more? What the fuck? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33432712 repubs are schizo as fuck. You guys don't get it!! It does not fix anything. If wage goes up that may result in jobloss, shorter shifts, and rise in prices of good."for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction" Socialist tactics never work in the long run, NEVER GET SAVED: Thread: Are you SAVED from DAMNATION? "For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another. This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law. Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26 |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 33315765 United States02/12/2013 10:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i work part time in a convenience store. i was the highest paid employee at..you guessed it, 9.00 an hour. my coworker, who is more part time than i am makes 8.00 an hour. my boss is already struggling to make payroll - very small business; he, his wife and five employees if he has to raise everyone up to 9.00 an hour, he will be broke. people don't spend money like they used to and after they buy gas, they don't feel like coming in and spending more on our overpriced beer and snack food. i'm not even hoping for a raise...i'll be glad if i'm still employed. he's only gonna keep one cashier if he stays open. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 21989454 United States02/12/2013 10:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Meanwhile all operators of the local taco bell and burger king joints raise the prices on their signs. Quoting: LunaticFringe I've about hit the cap on what I'll pay for a shitty burger and cold fries.... Not that I eat fast food too often but my roomies do and every time I go through the drive through with them it seems like the dollar menus keep expanding.. but then again I could be wrong 'cause I really don't see them often. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 32716157 United States02/12/2013 10:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think its a smart idea. Obama also wants the minimum wage to go up along with cost of living. This will help keep the cost of living down because companies won't want to pay their minimum wage employees more money. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26993662 Its about time that these damn companies start paying, even if it is only $9.00/hr. How anyone can live on $7.25/hr now is crazy. Then you have the big CEO's giving themselves big raises and thousands of dollars bonuses. I would raise minimum wage to $15. These CEO's are part of whats driving the middle class down into poverty. Don't like my comments, well then just kiss my ass. The cost of living will go up BECAUSE of this increase. Do you use a special drug to be this stupid, or did you just sleep through Econ 101? Think about it: all this does is bring the middle class that much closer to the minimum wage level. You gain nothing on the lower end because people making minimum wage will always be poor and prices will go up accordingly. Your "plan" simply destroys more of the middle class. |
| 4D Viewer (OP) User ID: 22500638 United States02/12/2013 10:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | but i guess people didnt hear him say he was going to import more high end workers with degree's ...... Quoting: ~IS~ Yep they are going to stagnate wages.... I bet media won't cover that "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 10106605 United States02/12/2013 10:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 13950353 United States02/12/2013 10:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is he trying to run us out of business!!! If you raise one side the other would even out with it!!! The money comes from the people that buy the product and the price just rose by $1 cause of the minimum wage raise!! He does not get it!! Quoting: 4D Viewer [link to www.businessweek.com] That signifies the end of OUR nation and fuckstick just swung the Hammer! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 5915501 United States02/12/2013 10:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Great so we get to pay some retarded teenager 9 an hour to fuck around at his job Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32328802 I don't know how it is where you live, but in Phoenix and surrounding areas, teens have been shuffled out of the fast food game for a long time now. All I ever see there are adults. Attitudes have changed in the industry. If you are going to be paying someone a man's wage, you want a full grown adult, capable of adult work. You definitely don't want a kid that is going to need all kinds of time off or having to go home early on school nights. Youth unemployment is high at around 15% for those ages 16-24. I would hate to see what the 16-18 year old unemployment rate is. |
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