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Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.

 
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To add, this change (becoming fluent in the above) requires a complete change of perspective.

It is something your current perspective may resist (expressed as a block or difficulty) because it may not see the need to use the energy to get there.
 Quoting: Chaol


Something quite strange happened last night. I had the weirdest and most vivid dreams and woke up with Ecsys on the brain. I understand it much, much more clearly now--that is, I can see the flow and rhyme and reason of the Genius Modeling. I have even begun towards a much better understanding of Neuronics and the associated strings.

I also realized I've come to know how to begin towards a model of symbolizing the proficiency and fluency towards Ecsys Prime...a 'Rosetta Stone' indeed.

Chaol, what ever you did or did not dew seems to have worked. Thank you.

Let's keep it going, shall we?

I will begin the visualization so as to meet you under the tree. I hope to sea you there.
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So here is what I have so far, I am hoping for a review.

I have my symbol

The goal is income $20,000 for a new project. I am envisioning myself filling out an invoice for $20,000

The space is my home office

The logic is at least once a day I make a small change to the symbol and move it from the shelf to my desk, and rotate it's position

Am I missing anything?
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Hi.

Is your goal:

1) $20,000 for a new project, or

2) filling out an invoice for $20,000 ?

Also, what kind of changes do you anticipate making to the symbol every day? Perhaps just rotating it is enough.

Further, your logic can be more specific to be more effective. (Such as exactly when and under what conditions?)
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My goal is $20,000 for a new project

The symbol is a smooth pebble with a rubber band/o-ring holding a penny onto it. I slide the penny to one side, move the symbol to the either the shelf or desk surface and rotate it's position by 180 degrees. I do all of this at lease once a day, but also when I chance to glance at the symbol during my work day.

When you say exactly "when and under what conditions" do you mean as to when I move and change the symbol?
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Unit3,

I can't reply to the messages as I'm not a subscribing member, but shoot me an email at cat.carel.000@gmail.com. I've been having problems syncing the inbox, so hopefully I won't miss your message :)
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Nothing too obvious, you know?
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lol.. that's a great idea!

But do the pancakes exist once you put it in your mouth?

Do the towels get you wet and dry at the same time?

So much to think about :)
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Chaol, how many times must we go over this?

The pancakes just have a different value once they're in your mouth. I suppose they could be called something different (like, mush).

As for the towels, wet vs. dry depends on which object has more water- towel or skin. When skin is perceived to have more water on surface, the towel dries. When towel has more water, skin becomes wet. This, of course, is all just relationships and doesn't actually exist. But don't tell anyone I said that.

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Does anyone have the 'problem' of writing neuronicons like a chain reaction? As in (I'm just making up random ones):

S +P, +P I, I L

Where the output become the proceeding input.

I'm probably breaking all kinds of rules with this format, but I did manage to manifest rain and pumpkin bread yesterday! woohoo
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I just decided to join the Genius exercise to earn some money. It could solve my car problem, and maybe we could even move to a nice big house, too :)

But then the following occurred to me: what if I wish for $50 million USD, then I get it, but it comes with a burden that I never wished for (eg. comes in an illegal way)? Or it comes in a form of heritage (probably my subconscious finds that needs the least energy to achieve), so someone I love will have to die? I really don't want that.

This means that when deciding on my goal I have to be really-really careful. Also I have to be as specific as possible when deciding on the source of that income, so that it cannot cause any harm to anyone. But then again if I introduce such limitations, it also limits the possibilities, right?

Since I cannot be smarter than my subconscious, what if I don't take something into account (do I really have to think about everything where things could possibly go wrong?) when defining my goal and I end up with a perspective that I did not want?

I begin to feel Genius might be a double-edged sword. Be careful what you wish for, because it might come true.
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4) Every time my account has an additional $12,581.74 in it, I will purchase a $1.00 lottery ticket. (until I reach $250 million)
 Quoting: Unit3

Do you really want to buy 19870 lottery tickets? If you want to have $250 million USD in let's say a year, you would have to buy 382 lottery tickets each and every week. Now that does not sound too comfortable.
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If your children play hide-and-seek, for example, why not find a really good hiding place? Like an other world? Then I will try to come find you :)

Doing even the slightest bit brings it closer to your perspective.

So even if they fail you have introduced the concept to their perspective which brings it closer to their perspective.

It could even be the thought of hiding in an other world that brings them closer to the experience of living in an other world.

It's exactly what I am doing in this forum :)
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VERY interesting. Thank you. So talking to my husband about Ecsys still brings it closer, even though he is not interested.
 Quoting: Unit3


Or you could be really subtle with 'ecsys'-shaped pancakes, monogrammed bath towels, and coffee cups with Chaol-isms.

chuckle

Nothing too obvious, you know?
 Quoting: CatCarel





LOL! I'd love to do that. Unfortunately, he's in another country and without internet connection right now. But, I could think of something, I am sure. TY!
 Quoting: Unit3


Paste thought bubbles with ecsys-related quotes onto pictures of him! hehe
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Does anyone have the 'problem' of writing neuronicons like a chain reaction? As in (I'm just making up random ones):

S +P, +P I, I L
 Quoting: CatCarel


I am not sure you can do that. S +P looks OK, but I think you can't have +P I, only I +P. This is because INPUTs have priority over OUTPUTs and priority is clockwise starting from 12 o' clock ( 1. S, 2. I, 3. P, 4. L ).
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Does anyone have the 'problem' of writing neuronicons like a chain reaction? As in (I'm just making up random ones):

S +P, +P I, I L
 Quoting: CatCarel


I am not sure you can do that. S +P looks OK, but I think you can't have +P I, only I +P. This is because INPUTs have priority over OUTPUTs and priority is clockwise starting from 12 o' clock ( 1. S, 2. I, 3. P, 4. L ).
 Quoting: madcaddy


Agreed. Like I said, just made them up, but I keep thinking of them as reactions.

Edit to: S +I, +I P, P L

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Chaol: you mentioned earlier that it does not matter what the symbol is, as long as it has no preattached meaning. Similarly the logic and interaction is not relevant, as long as they are able to create relationship with my reality (things relevant to me). However as far as I understand space/possibility cannot be anything, it needs to be a place which relates to the goal (eg. in Unit3's case it should be a bank if the goal is to get $250 million USD).

Why is that? Why can be the symbol, interaction and logic be practically anything (totally not related to what the symbol represents / what the goal is), but not the possibility?

If I decide to represent a car with a piece of clay for instance, then my subconscious accepts it as if it was the car (truely it is, I just can't see it yet). However when I would like to pick up my friend, the subconscious would have a hard time making me believe that piece of clay is actually a car. So it will have to make up a story that I actually own that car and then I can really pick up my friend with it.
That sounds logical to me.

But why is that the logic and interaction elements in Genius can be anything? Would not the subconscious get confused when eg. a dog eats my car (in reality the dog holds the piece of clay in its mouth)? Also what if I decide that the logic would be to throw the car (actually the piece of clay) to the ceiling three times when somebody makes an offer on buying my old car? Would not the subconscious get confused that I am doing impossible things like flinging a 1.7 ton car?

I would find it more logical to create similar logic and interaction to what I would do with the actually represented thing: the car. So the logic would be to wash it on Sundays, the interaction would be to let my kids sit on it, it would be stored in the garage, etc.

I can't get it, really. A few days ago I thought I understood these things better, but now I feel I know nothing.

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I am not so good with craftworks, and also don't have too many raw material available to create such symbols like you did. Will it work if I draw or paint my symbols to an amorph piece of paper? It would be easier to carry, it could fit in my purse and could easily interact with my environment when fixing it on the wall at home or at my workplace.

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-snip-

Why is that? Why can be the symbol, interaction and logic be practically anything (totally not related to what the symbol represents / what the goal is), but not the possibility?


But why is that the logic and interaction elements in Genius can be anything? Would not the subconscious get confused when eg. a dog eats my car (in reality the dog holds the piece of clay in its mouth)? Also what if I decide that the logic would be to throw the car (actually the piece of clay) to the ceiling three times when somebody makes an offer on buying my old car? Would not the subconscious get confused that I am doing impossible things like flinging a 1.7 ton car?

I would find it more logical to create similar logic and interaction to what I would do with the actually represented thing: the car. So the logic would be to wash it on Sundays, the interaction would be to let my kids sit on it, it would be stored in the garage, etc.

I can't get it, really. A few days ago I thought I understood these things better, but now I feel I know nothing.
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Madcaddy, as to what you wrote above, think about the relation of the Possibility element to that of Potential Energy. Also, don't try to "out smart" your subconscious in this process--that is, the subconscious wouldn't be confused by a dog eating the ball of clay because, to your subconcious, what you perceive as "a dog eating the ball of clay" is in reality "the techician installing the dashboard to your new Ferrari" (or something such).

The way I understand it is we are not to make assumptions or presumptions on behalf of our subconcious. Ever.

Ironically, it was your post who helped me to see this. And for what ever reason, it clicked last night.
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I can't get it, really. A few days ago I thought I understood these things better, but now I feel I know nothing.
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Exactly, lol.

I was just thinking the same thing. As I learn, things get more complicated.
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the subconscious wouldn't be confused by a dog eating the ball of clay because, to your subconcious, what you perceive as "a dog eating the ball of clay" is in reality "the techician installing the dashboard to your new Ferrari" (or something such).

The way I understand it is we are not to make assumptions or presumptions on behalf of our subconcious. Ever.

Ironically, it was your post who helped me to see this. And for what ever reason, it clicked last night.
 Quoting: X Won 1407931


Well, then it seems we can help out each other. That example with the dashboard installing really helped. I always forget what I perceive only looks this and that because this is the easiest to perceive. But it might be entirely different from what my subconscious sees. That way interaction really does not matter, the only importance of it is that through forming relations it makes the car (or whatever is represented by the symbol) more relative to my perspective.

Now I see why symbol, logic and interaction can be anything. The question is why is it important that the space/possibility element should be somehow related to the goal? Eg. why is it better for the possibility element to be a bank when one wants to see $50 million USD on his/her account than eg. the wall in the kitchen? As far as I understand the conscious mind can only mess up with things, so the less logic it finds in the symbol and the rules the better -- it will let the subconscious do its job. But then isn't it all the same if the possibility element is the kitchen not the bank, as long as it provides enough possiblity for interaction and thus for the symbol to form relations with the things already perceived?
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Chaol, there will be a day when EC will be natural to us?

I mean, I'm really trying here, but I can't focus myself, I don't know why, and this is a big problem to me.

I've tried the 'Sekhmet exercise', the alternative (the book), no success.

So, I'm asking: Should I be 'worried' to miss the boat? Or it will come for everyone?
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Unit3,

I can't reply to the messages as I'm not a subscribing member, but shoot me an email at cat.carel.000@gmail.com. I've been having problems syncing the inbox, so hopefully I won't miss your message :)
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4) Every time my account has an additional $12,581.74 in it, I will purchase a $1.00 lottery ticket. (until I reach $250 million)
 Quoting: Unit3

Do you really want to buy 19870 lottery tickets? If you want to have $250 million USD in let's say a year, you would have to buy 382 lottery tickets each and every week. Now that does not sound too comfortable.
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I agree. I'm not done creating the Genius I want. I've asked Chaol some more questions and just waiting now. I'm not using The Genius until I have a much better understanding of how it works and until I can create a perspective I really want.

I am also thinking I won't use it until I can also create on- the-fly because what's the good of creating a perspective that is going to keep me so busy, I can't hang out here?

Thanks for your concern because had I not thought of it, it would indeed be something I wouldn't enjoy. That's what I really like about this thread. We all seem to be helping one another. This is truly a dream come true for me already. hf
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VERY interesting. Thank you. So talking to my husband about Ecsys still brings it closer, even though he is not interested.
 Quoting: Unit3


Or you could be really subtle with 'ecsys'-shaped pancakes, monogrammed bath towels, and coffee cups with Chaol-isms.

chuckle

Nothing too obvious, you know?
 Quoting: CatCarel





LOL! I'd love to do that. Unfortunately, he's in another country and without internet connection right now. But, I could think of something, I am sure. TY!
 Quoting: Unit3


Paste thought bubbles with ecsys-related quotes onto pictures of him! hehe
 Quoting: CatCarel




That's too cute. What a great idea. Thank you very much.

cool2


Edit: Okay, I'm going to go ahead and bring this up. I've never been one to put personal stuff in a forum. But,we all have serious issues to consider as we create our Genius plans anyway.

I'm not sure how much energy I want to put into bringing my husband into this nor whether I should. After all, he has his free will too. The other day, I saw that my 93 year old relative is coming right along with all we are doing here and even wants to learn how to use The Genius.

My husband, on the other hand, is not interested in Ecsys. We barely have communication because he doesn't have internet connection yet and I haven't seen him in almost a year. Once he was deported, we agreed to split up and pursue whatever path each of us wants to. We do in stay in touch and care about each other, obviously.

So, do I even have the right to try to interest him? Especially, since in all this time, there is still no interest. We are connected energetically just like I am with the 93 year old. So the question is, how much do we affect someone when we create a Genius? I like to assume it wouldn't happen if they weren't willing in some way.

I think these are good issues for us to explore. I understand we influence one another all day, every day anyway. I just think it's a good idea to consider this as we are learning and I'd like to hear what others have to say.


Thanks.

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the subconscious wouldn't be confused by a dog eating the ball of clay because, to your subconcious, what you perceive as "a dog eating the ball of clay" is in reality "the techician installing the dashboard to your new Ferrari" (or something such).

The way I understand it is we are not to make assumptions or presumptions on behalf of our subconcious. Ever.

Ironically, it was your post who helped me to see this. And for what ever reason, it clicked last night.
 Quoting: X Won 1407931


Well, then it seems we can help out each other. That example with the dashboard installing really helped. I always forget what I perceive only looks this and that because this is the easiest to perceive. But it might be entirely different from what my subconscious sees. That way interaction really does not matter, the only importance of it is that through forming relations it makes the car (or whatever is represented by the symbol) more relative to my perspective.

Now I see why symbol, logic and interaction can be anything. The question is why is it important that the space/possibility element should be somehow related to the goal? Eg. why is it better for the possibility element to be a bank when one wants to see $50 million USD on his/her account than eg. the wall in the kitchen? As far as I understand the conscious mind can only mess up with things, so the less logic it finds in the symbol and the rules the better -- it will let the subconscious do its job. But then isn't it all the same if the possibility element is the kitchen not the bank, as long as it provides enough possiblity for interaction and thus for the symbol to form relations with the things already perceived?
 Quoting: madcaddy




Here's my understanding. The subconscious is indeed a Genius and works with symbols. The less meaning to symbols and the crazier, the more it wakes up the subconscious.

However, we are also moving our perspective from current to desired perspective so something needs to make the connection for us. This is why the space is so important that the symbol is carried in the hand rather than in a bag. That space is the "new" perspective your old perspective is connecting to and needs to interact with.

Hope I'm right and that this helps.
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Or you could be really subtle with 'ecsys'-shaped pancakes, monogrammed bath towels, and coffee cups with Chaol-isms.

chuckle

Nothing too obvious, you know?
 Quoting: CatCarel





LOL! I'd love to do that. Unfortunately, he's in another country and without internet connection right now. But, I could think of something, I am sure. TY!
 Quoting: Unit3


Paste thought bubbles with ecsys-related quotes onto pictures of him! hehe
 Quoting: CatCarel




That's too cute. What a great idea. Thank you very much.

cool2


Edit: Okay, I'm going to go ahead and bring this up. I've never been one to put personal stuff in a forum. But,we all have serious issues to consider as we create our Genius plans anyway.

I'm not sure how much energy I want to put into bringing my husband into this nor whether I should. After all, he has his free will too. The other day, I saw that my 93 year old relative is coming right along with all we are doing here and even wants to learn how to use The Genius.

My husband, on the other hand, is not interested in Ecsys. We barely have communication because he doesn't have internet connection yet and I haven't seen him in almost a year. Once he was deported, we agreed to split up and pursue whatever path each of us wants to. We do in stay in touch and care about each other, obviously.

So, do I even have the right to try to interest him? Especially, since in all this time, there is still no interest. We are connected energetically just like I am with the 93 year old. So the question is, how much do we affect someone when we create a Genius? I like to assume it wouldn't happen if they weren't willing in some way.

I think these are good issues for us to explore. I understand we influence one another all day, every day anyway. I just think it's a good idea to consider this as we are learning and I'd like to hear what others have to say.


Thanks.
 Quoting: Unit3


I'm sorry about your husband :(

It sounds like he's just not quite as relative to your life right now (which caused the deportation narrative). But because he is a projection of your self, you don't necessarily need him there physically in order to learn ecsys.

I guess the bigger question is do you want him along for this journey?
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LOL! I'd love to do that. Unfortunately, he's in another country and without internet connection right now. But, I could think of something, I am sure. TY!
 Quoting: Unit3


Paste thought bubbles with ecsys-related quotes onto pictures of him! hehe
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That's too cute. What a great idea. Thank you very much.

cool2


Edit: Okay, I'm going to go ahead and bring this up. I've never been one to put personal stuff in a forum. But,we all have serious issues to consider as we create our Genius plans anyway.

I'm not sure how much energy I want to put into bringing my husband into this nor whether I should. After all, he has his free will too. The other day, I saw that my 93 year old relative is coming right along with all we are doing here and even wants to learn how to use The Genius.

My husband, on the other hand, is not interested in Ecsys. We barely have communication because he doesn't have internet connection yet and I haven't seen him in almost a year. Once he was deported, we agreed to split up and pursue whatever path each of us wants to. We do in stay in touch and care about each other, obviously.

So, do I even have the right to try to interest him? Especially, since in all this time, there is still no interest. We are connected energetically just like I am with the 93 year old. So the question is, how much do we affect someone when we create a Genius? I like to assume it wouldn't happen if they weren't willing in some way.

I think these are good issues for us to explore. I understand we influence one another all day, every day anyway. I just think it's a good idea to consider this as we are learning and I'd like to hear what others have to say.


Thanks.
 Quoting: Unit3


I'm sorry about your husband :(

It sounds like he's just not quite as relative to your life right now (which caused the deportation narrative). But because he is a projection of your self, you don't necessarily need him there physically in order to learn ecsys.

I guess the bigger question is do you want him along for this journey?
 Quoting: CatCarel




Thanks. I've had almost a year to adjust so the worse is over now. That's a good question and I have to say I don't really know the answer. The deportation is a huge message, that's for sure. Then his continued non-interest makes me feel I need to honor his choices.
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Paste thought bubbles with ecsys-related quotes onto pictures of him! hehe
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That's too cute. What a great idea. Thank you very much.

cool2


Edit: Okay, I'm going to go ahead and bring this up. I've never been one to put personal stuff in a forum. But,we all have serious issues to consider as we create our Genius plans anyway.

I'm not sure how much energy I want to put into bringing my husband into this nor whether I should. After all, he has his free will too. The other day, I saw that my 93 year old relative is coming right along with all we are doing here and even wants to learn how to use The Genius.

My husband, on the other hand, is not interested in Ecsys. We barely have communication because he doesn't have internet connection yet and I haven't seen him in almost a year. Once he was deported, we agreed to split up and pursue whatever path each of us wants to. We do in stay in touch and care about each other, obviously.

So, do I even have the right to try to interest him? Especially, since in all this time, there is still no interest. We are connected energetically just like I am with the 93 year old. So the question is, how much do we affect someone when we create a Genius? I like to assume it wouldn't happen if they weren't willing in some way.

I think these are good issues for us to explore. I understand we influence one another all day, every day anyway. I just think it's a good idea to consider this as we are learning and I'd like to hear what others have to say.


Thanks.
 Quoting: Unit3


I'm sorry about your husband :(

It sounds like he's just not quite as relative to your life right now (which caused the deportation narrative). But because he is a projection of your self, you don't necessarily need him there physically in order to learn ecsys.

I guess the bigger question is do you want him along for this journey?
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Thanks. I've had almost a year to adjust so the worse is over now. That's a good question and I have to say I don't really know the answer. The deportation is a huge message, that's for sure. Then his continued non-interest makes me feel I need to honor his choices.
 Quoting: Unit3


:( People express grief in many ways. What you perceive as non-interest might just be his way of coping with the changes.

May I ask what kept you in the US?
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Chaol I'm quite confused now. I have read the past few pages of this thread and I think I've been doing it all wrong. I did make a model and thought I had assigned the rules and interaction and space correctly but I'm now not sure. My space was defined as my surroundings. Not a specific space. So I placed the model in different spots of my flat (room, kitchen, on too of the fridge etc) just letting it get a feel for everywhere. But now I don't know if that is what you meant by space.

Anyway here's my model. Please tell me what you think

Laura's Ecsys model for millions to get my dream home

Symbol: A model made from:
5 toothpicks
Plasters
A small white tube like thing with a flat base(don't know what it is really, looks like a lighthouse). It has holes going through it and a hole at the top that you can blow into.
A sprite plastic bottle cap (blue)

I glued the bottle cap to the white tube thing.
I stuck a toothpick on he base of the cap and another one through one of the holes.
So now I had two toothpicks sticking out of my blue bottle cap tower.
Then I used a plaster to tape one end if the two toothpicks together and stuck three other toothpicks on the opposite side of the plaster joint.
So I have two toothpicks from one end with my blue cap tower, the plaster joint and the three toothpicks from the other end.
This world is my very first genius model. Ta da!!


Structure: my model represents my wealth. Everyday I use it I am getting richer by the millions. It interacts with me and my environment.

Interaction: I bring it out with me on my journeys once in a while and allow it to interact with my works around me. People ask questions about it. At work, someone asked if I liked making things and didn't give me much of a chance to explain about it before he started telling a story about his little daughter who loves making things all the time. (Goes to show you my level of creativity lol)
People definitely wonder about it when I bring it out on the train or in the shops.

Possibility/space/potential energy:
I have it near me at all times. At home, I remove it from my bag and put on my dressing table or table or on the fridge or in the bathroom. Most of the time it's on my table or dressing table when I'm at home.
I put it in the play perfume box when I'm going anywhere and put it in my bag to prevent breakage. So in essence it is always with me anywhere I go.
I bring it out sometimes at work and rest it on my computer shelf/desk while I work.
I bring it out on the train and sometimes when I go to shops.

Logic: I twirl it 20 times everyday (on a flat surface) representing the twirling from joy at my fortune
I blow into the white thingy 20 times everyday representing the numerous sighs of relief and better breathing levels at my comfortable lifestyle.
I sing at least one song into it once a day representing my joy from knowing that I am exactly where I want to be and I'm singing for it daily!

The millions will enable me to acquire my dream of owning my dream home. A tall building with three houses on one side of the road and two on the opposite side (which is where my own dream house is)
There is a pool in my house and its amazing.
I was able to decorate my dream house from scratch by myself due to excessive amount of money I have.
I am really close to my next door neighbours who happen to be people that I love and they sometimes come round and we have a good time. I love my life!


Just recently, I thought of this and don't know if I can add to my already created model in this way:

The model represents my dream house.
The toothpick being the structure of the dream house (tall building)
The blue cap is the pool
The white thingy is the connection between me and my surroundings/people around me
The plaster signifies me doing up my dream house on my own and healing my life in the process.

Ok Chaol please analyse this. hf
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It seems fine. No need to change it. It sounds like you've made a nice first attempt.

Your Possibility is also fine. (You've defined it as your home.)

The "Structure" line doesn't belong though. Logic you all ready have.

Let me know how it works and what changes you see :)

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One more analysis please Chaol. I recently had a tooth extraction and it went extremely well. A few days or the day before I made an ec string. Made the string and the image of it was stuck on the back of my phone on the morning of the extraction. I don't really want to get into the details of the extraction itself but it was very amazing and went like a dream (but that could just be the two shots I had to numb me up)

So here was what I did -


Tooth extraction
SUMI
Neutral possibility / high logic
Tools to solve teeth problem / teeth problem solved

OUGHT
High interaction / high logic
Dentist working on teeth / me taking care of it after extraction/ teeth getting better and better

B
High symbol / neutral possibility
Dentist working on teeth, me / using tools to repair the problem areas, me using tools for aftercare and following the guidelines for healing

EA
High symbol / high interaction
Me / going to hospital etc

SUMI-OUGHT-B-EA

Is this the right process in making up a string? Would the final outcome work better as the first icon or last icon? In this example: OUGHT being my teeth getting better and better
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I don't often comment on Ec or strings (as I've realized it's a bit more complicated and don't want to confuse) but the above seems fine and should work.

You've created a new word to represent something, which creates a value in your perspective (thus creating a new perspective).

This is like creating a shortcut on your computer desktop that starts a more complicated process. The shortcut (your new word) will bring the experience closer because it decreases the amount of energy required to experience it.

Order doesn't actually make a difference, as your mind will 'read' it all simultaneously.

Hope this clarifies is, and nice work :)
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Your Genius knows everything. It knows it even before you do. (There is no separation between you and your sub-conscious. I just use these terms and phrases for ease of illustration.)

Imagine that when you see something 'new' or unique in your perspective for the first time your sub-conscious is open to suggestions as to what it is. So you make a suggestion (by intention) that, for example, "this ball of clay with the ice cream flag on it is my new car!"
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First, this clay ball analogy was excellent for clarity and understanding. Thank you!

And, next...

I'm wondering what part pre-existing programming plays in this process. Or, more to the point, how to prevent it from bleeding over into new intentions and new, preferred experiences.

Let's say I have a history of, for some or whatever reason, being attracted to people, or a narrative, which involves co-dependency and/or chasing the unavailable.

Should I make a Genius for this? I get that "history" should be in quotes, any way, but I'm looking for a way to integrate a new belief, that nothing is actually unavailable, really.

This one may not make much sense, so I appreciate whatever insights arise from you all.

Many thanks!

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That's too cute. What a great idea. Thank you very much.

cool2


Edit: Okay, I'm going to go ahead and bring this up. I've never been one to put personal stuff in a forum. But,we all have serious issues to consider as we create our Genius plans anyway.

I'm not sure how much energy I want to put into bringing my husband into this nor whether I should. After all, he has his free will too. The other day, I saw that my 93 year old relative is coming right along with all we are doing here and even wants to learn how to use The Genius.

My husband, on the other hand, is not interested in Ecsys. We barely have communication because he doesn't have internet connection yet and I haven't seen him in almost a year. Once he was deported, we agreed to split up and pursue whatever path each of us wants to. We do in stay in touch and care about each other, obviously.

So, do I even have the right to try to interest him? Especially, since in all this time, there is still no interest. We are connected energetically just like I am with the 93 year old. So the question is, how much do we affect someone when we create a Genius? I like to assume it wouldn't happen if they weren't willing in some way.

I think these are good issues for us to explore. I understand we influence one another all day, every day anyway. I just think it's a good idea to consider this as we are learning and I'd like to hear what others have to say.


Thanks.
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I'm sorry about your husband :(

It sounds like he's just not quite as relative to your life right now (which caused the deportation narrative). But because he is a projection of your self, you don't necessarily need him there physically in order to learn ecsys.

I guess the bigger question is do you want him along for this journey?
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Thanks. I've had almost a year to adjust so the worse is over now. That's a good question and I have to say I don't really know the answer. The deportation is a huge message, that's for sure. Then his continued non-interest makes me feel I need to honor his choices.
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:( People express grief in many ways. What you perceive as non-interest might just be his way of coping with the changes.

May I ask what kept you in the US?
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Yes, he has been through a lot so I have given him a lot of space. In fact, I've always given him a lot of space because he is not of this world, really. It's not unusual for him not to listen to me though.

I stayed in the US because he had to live with his parents after being deported. He hates this world so he won't get a job. He would rather live on the streets.

His parents forced him to sign up for a government house which he just moved into. This is why he doesn't have internet yet. He invited me to visit but I haven't accepted yet for various reasons.
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Well this is interesting. I don't care for the perspective I would be creating with my Genius map so I have another post with suggestions on how to modify it. Now, I've run across this post in one of the other threads:


Thread: Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking. (Page 76)

"How to expand your perspective.

Ask yourself what representations matter to you most in your life? What do you consider yourself? What do you think about? What labels do you find yourself thinking about.

And then you will see that the representations (which are illusions of something else) influence your experience and limit your perspective.

(It's a matter of how much your perspective interacts with other things. Your perspective will always be limited somehow.)

So in order to expand your perspective through thinking, get rid of your thoughts, rely on them less, and make them interact with what no longer matters to you.

Become what you do not care to become. (As you care about what is most relative to you, which actually binds you to the current perspective.)"


So, if I want to expand my perspective, I should go ahead with the Genius map without modifying it? I just don't want to be so tied up in it that I don't have much time to be here and learning Ecsys. Maybe just an extra $100,000 instead of $$250 million for now!

Edit: If I actually do this, my 93 year old relative is going to want to do it too. This could be fun.

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One more analysis please Chaol. I recently had a tooth extraction and it went extremely well. A few days or the day before I made an ec string. Made the string and the image of it was stuck on the back of my phone on the morning of the extraction. I don't really want to get into the details of the extraction itself but it was very amazing and went like a dream (but that could just be the two shots I had to numb me up)

So here was what I did -


Tooth extraction
SUMI
Neutral possibility / high logic
Tools to solve teeth problem / teeth problem solved

OUGHT
High interaction / high logic
Dentist working on teeth / me taking care of it after extraction/ teeth getting better and better

B
High symbol / neutral possibility
Dentist working on teeth, me / using tools to repair the problem areas, me using tools for aftercare and following the guidelines for healing

EA
High symbol / high interaction
Me / going to hospital etc

SUMI-OUGHT-B-EA

Is this the right process in making up a string? Would the final outcome work better as the first icon or last icon? In this example: OUGHT being my teeth getting better and better
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27068324


I don't often comment on Ec or strings (as I've realized it's a bit more complicated and don't want to confuse) but the above seems fine and should work.

You've created a new word to represent something, which creates a value in your perspective (thus creating a new perspective).

This is like creating a shortcut on your computer desktop that starts a more complicated process. The shortcut (your new word) will bring the experience closer because it decreases the amount of energy required to experience it.

Order doesn't actually make a difference, as your mind will 'read' it all simultaneously.

Hope this clarifies is, and nice work :)
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Very interesting!

Nice job AC! rockon How did you decide your output and input values? And by image, do you mean you took a photo of your string and taped it to your phone? Thanks.

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Chaol, there will be a day when EC will be natural to us?

I mean, I'm really trying here, but I can't focus myself, I don't know why, and this is a big problem to me.

I've tried the 'Sekhmet exercise', the alternative (the book), no success.

So, I'm asking: Should I be 'worried' to miss the boat? Or it will come for everyone?
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I'm worried about missing the boat too. I'm wondering if we could create a string or Genius map to help with that. Maybe bring new technology from our future to our present perspective that would open our brains to it?

Edit: I guess not unless things have changed since this was posted in January.

Thread: Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking. (Page 77)

"Choose to be someone else that you can logically be right now, or forever be an energy stuck in the current loop."

And he says Ecsys cannot do it. We have to do it. If this is true, lots of people are missing the boat.

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