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Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.

 
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Silver as an industrial metal is better then gold and also cheaper and more undervalued. A better plan.

Use metals to make certain relationships irrelevant and have less power, not to fuel the apocalypse....

Direct your focus!!!
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Make a Genius....that EVERYONE REMEMBERS who they are.

We could even make the Genius a group project!!!! Anyone interested?
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Of course!
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My thoughts exactly :O I'm in.
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Make a Genius....that EVERYONE REMEMBERS who they are.

We could even make the Genius a group project!!!! Anyone interested?
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Who are we? What is it we're looking to remember? What would it feel like to recall, etc...

Is what you propose even an option?

hf
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Brilliant! Thank you!!! hf

The more who join in on this venture, the better, as far as I can tell.

I believe "we," as One, make this world perception. Remember, Chaol said to us something about we need to create a culture that is not based on endless profit. So, he inferred we made this world and we can change it.

In the Seth books, he speaks of us as a species and says things about our genetic bank...and that each of us chooses variations from the bank to keep our species flexible.

He also says,

"All species are interconnected, so, as I said earlier, when you think you think for yourselves, you also specialize in thinking for the rest of nature, which physically sustains you."

So, the more of us joining in on executing one Genius, I would think the more effective it will be and especially with the nexi coming up.

I propose that we review Chaol's post on how to evaluate a perception and then set up a formula. I'm open to suggestions and ideas, of course.

Here's the link to his post:
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Make a Genius....that EVERYONE REMEMBERS who they are.

We could even make the Genius a group project!!!! Anyone interested?
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Who are we? What is it we're looking to remember? What would it feel like to recall, etc...

Is what you propose even an option?

hf
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To me it is, but I welcome your input. Seth speaks that the only difference in him and us is he remembers who he is. I will be glad to discuss any of this, though.

We even sort of went over this with Neo, too. I'll see if I can find his post.


Edit: I haven't found his post, yet. I'll try again tomorrow. If you have another idea for the Genius, I'd like to hear it.

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Make a Genius....that EVERYONE REMEMBERS who they are.

We could even make the Genius a group project!!!! Anyone interested?
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Who are we? What is it we're looking to remember? What would it feel like to recall, etc...

Is what you propose even an option?

hf
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To me it is, but I welcome your input. Seth speaks that the only difference in him and us is he remembers who he is. I will be glad to discuss any of this, though.

We even sort of went over this with Neo, too. I'll see if I can find his post.


Edit: I haven't found his post, yet. I'll try again tomorrow. If you have another idea for the Genius, I'd like to hear it.
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This was not an attempt to dismiss your idea of creating a genius to usher in the recollection of who we each are, individually. I just (personally) think that there is no-thing to re-member. It's all "here and now" (as I see it) and we needn't "do anything" to perceive it. We already are "who we are" and we remember it fully, we simply choose to not see this so that we can pretend to seek it. We put effort(energy, time, intent) into supporting barriers that prevent us from perceiving such things and then choose to forget we put them up.

If we get down to "who" we are in the most primal sense, we find we are no-thing in particular and every-thing altogether. Is what you're looking to achieve, simply the "feeling" of oneness with all that you are? Or are you looking to force into your perspective an instant awakening into the perspective where you are aware of "who you are" truly?

We might imagine our little perceptual paradigms as bubbles that have to expand slowly in a way most relative to our current perspective or they'll pop and we'll lose that egoic sense of self. An experience like this would leave our ego behind and provide a recollection of all that we are. These perspectives are the same perspective and yet, mutually exclusive.

Wouldn't it (literally) be a "self-defeating" experience to recall all that you are only to render the individual seeking to recall irrelevant? Like one cell in your body realizing it's you, in turn losing it's concept of itself. A single pixel comprised of one rich color suddenly re-collecting the image it helps to form and in that way becoming something different entirely.

If you remember "who you are", who is it exactly that's looking to remember?



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Consider the possibility that you order yourself into being from chaos... You do this, always, in all ways. This "ordering" has resulted in the possibilities you're experiencing, here, now. In each experience you've ever had, more and more of "this" reality is generated logically from your previous experience. Your observation of this unfolding of order and chaos is reality.
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Make a Genius....that EVERYONE REMEMBERS who they are.

We could even make the Genius a group project!!!! Anyone interested?
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Who are we? What is it we're looking to remember? What would it feel like to recall, etc...

Is what you propose even an option?

hf
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To me it is, but I welcome your input. Seth speaks that the only difference in him and us is he remembers who he is. I will be glad to discuss any of this, though.

We even sort of went over this with Neo, too. I'll see if I can find his post.


Edit: I haven't found his post, yet. I'll try again tomorrow. If you have another idea for the Genius, I'd like to hear it.
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This was not an attempt to dismiss your idea of creating a genius to usher in the recollection of who we each are, individually. I just (personally) think that there is no-thing to re-member. It's all "here and now" (as I see it) and we needn't "do anything" to perceive it. We already are "who we are" and we remember it fully, we simply choose to not see this so that we can pretend to seek it. We put effort(energy, time, intent) into supporting barriers that prevent us from perceiving such things and then choose to forget we put them up.

If we get down to "who" we are in the most primal sense, we find we are no-thing in particular and every-thing altogether. Is what you're looking to achieve, simply the "feeling" of oneness with all that you are? Or are you looking to force into your perspective an instant awakening into the perspective where you are aware of "who you are" truly?

We might imagine our little perceptual paradigms as bubbles that have to expand slowly in a way most relative to our current perspective or they'll pop and we'll lose that egoic sense of self. An experience like this would leave our ego behind and provide a recollection of all that we are. These perspectives are the same perspective and yet, mutually exclusive.

Wouldn't it (literally) be a "self-defeating" experience to recall all that you are only to render the individual seeking to recall irrelevant? Like one cell in your body realizing it's you, in turn losing it's concept of itself. A single pixel comprised of one rich color suddenly re-collecting the image it helps to form and in that way becoming something different entirely.

If you remember "who you are", who is it exactly that's looking to remember?

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I get what you mean and I appreciate it. But, I have experienced myself as nothing and also as a note in a symphony. Both were experiences I wish I could have stayed in. There was no feeling of being irrelevant in either experience.

In fact, it was quite the opposite...the nothingness was peaceful, beyond anything that makes sense. When experiencing the universe as a symphony, in which I was note, is indescribable because it was just too wonderful for words.....the best I can come up with is that it was beyond awesome.

We can state the intent of the Genius differently. I.E.:

1) Know the origin of my existence (I got this from Chaol)
2) Know that there is no sub-conscious. (I also got this from Chaol)
3) Release resistance so I am experiencing my magnificence.
4) Understanding perceptions so you remember what is true. (From the Tao of Chaol)
5) Love is remembrance (Ibid)
6) Open to love.

Or, since Chaol charged us with creating a culture that is not based on endless profits, we could go that direction, instead.

I could go on and on, but I am sure you get the point. Maybe you can help us formulate an intent.

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Awesome. Sound's like you may have achieved what you're looking for all-ready.

We can state the intent of the Genius differently. I.E.:

1) Know the origin of my existence (I got this from Chaol)
2) Know that there is no sub-conscious. (I also got this from Chaol)
3) Release resistance so I am experiencing my magnificence.
4) Understanding perceptions so you remember what is true. (From the Tao of Chaol)
5) Love is remembrance (Ibid)
6) Open to love.

Or, since Chaol charged us with creating a culture that is not based on endless profits, we could go that direction, instead.

I could go on and on, but I am sure you get the point. Maybe you can help us formulate an intent.
 Quoting: U3


1,2,3)Do you think there may be a possibility that in asking for these experiences you're generating a barrier to actually experiencing them?
4) What is it about your perceptions that you do not understand?
5,6) Huh?

Neo.Chaol did not imply that your entire world jump onto that band wagon. He did say that interacting with it (as it is) in a "new" way will allow it to change to reflect the new geometry.

If we're constantly checking to see if it's "done", each time we check, it's not. If we're concerned about whether it's "better", it isn't.

If your goal is to produce a culture that is not based on endless profits (the current culture's carrot on a stick), maybe you can replace the carrot with an apple.

rockon

Things are changing, they always are and always will. You need only do nothing to see change occur. In the same way, there is nothing you can do to stop it. What you can do, is (always) see where you may be wrong in your logic, explore, maintain a fully honest way of interacting with the entirety of your perspective and represent what it is that holds your interest in some way relevant to your interest.
Consider the possibility that you order yourself into being from chaos... You do this, always, in all ways. This "ordering" has resulted in the possibilities you're experiencing, here, now. In each experience you've ever had, more and more of "this" reality is generated logically from your previous experience. Your observation of this unfolding of order and chaos is reality.
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Awesome. Sound's like you may have achieved what you're looking for all-ready.

We can state the intent of the Genius differently. I.E.:

1) Know the origin of my existence (I got this from Chaol)
2) Know that there is no sub-conscious. (I also got this from Chaol)
3) Release resistance so I am experiencing my magnificence.
4) Understanding perceptions so you remember what is true. (From the Tao of Chaol)
5) Love is remembrance (Ibid)
6) Open to love.

Or, since Chaol charged us with creating a culture that is not based on endless profits, we could go that direction, instead.

I could go on and on, but I am sure you get the point. Maybe you can help us formulate an intent.
 Quoting: U3


1,2,3)Do you think there may be a possibility that in asking for these experiences you're generating a barrier to actually experiencing them?
4) What is it about your perceptions that you do not understand?
5,6) Huh?

Neo.Chaol did not imply that your entire world jump onto that band wagon. He did say that interacting with it (as it is) in a "new" way will allow it to change to reflect the new geometry.

If we're constantly checking to see if it's "done", each time we check, it's not. If we're concerned about whether it's "better", it isn't.

If your goal is to produce a culture that is not based on endless profits (the current culture's carrot on a stick), maybe you can replace the carrot with an apple.

rockon

Things are changing, they always are and always will. You need only do nothing to see change occur. In the same way, there is nothing you can do to stop it. What you can do, is (always) see where you may be wrong in your logic, explore, maintain a fully honest way of interacting with the entirety of your perspective and represent what it is that holds your interest in some way relevant to your interest.
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Thanks MM.

1-3 are things Chaol talked with us about us experiencing it. He helped me with a Genius for realizing there is no sub-conscious, so I figure it's a good possibility.

4-I don't know what is it I don't understand about my perceptions but according to Chaol, when you do, you remember what is true. Sounds good to me.

5-This statement is found in the Tao of Choal.
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6-Something I just threw in there as a possibility, heh!

I agree, always looking to see if it's done keeps it not done, lol! I just want to take full advantage of the nexi coming up and I've been given a wonderful gift of using the Genius.

I would love to replace the carrot with an apple. And, that's what this Genius is for. How shall we proceed? Does anyone have suggestions for our desired perception?
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Sorry sorry.

I have been meaning to post more often, but always feel like I should just learn that "last bit" before posting...I never do.

So Jessee, let's step this game up. Hopefully my post later tonight or tomorrow can get some good discussion going.


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Desire: Watching a 3D printer make my house
Symbol: bolt, a piece of popcorn and ashes, wrapped in duct tape, with a mental symbol on top.
Space: Drive-way of a newly built house
Interaction: Weather, cars, someone will throw it away
Logic: The first time I go to a town hall meeting for free housing for everybody, I will do a tazan yell while I jump up and down, 3X fast, when I get home. After I visit a free, consciousness temple that is for everyone, I will flap my arms like wings while running around my room and jumping on the bed and couch, for 1 minute. The first time there is a planned, world-wide, dream event, I will hug a street-light for 15 seconds and walk backwards in my house, from the front door to my bedroom.


To integrate this into my perspective, I will post or tell someone about stories and events or post images, that are relative to this perspective, on a daily basis.

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Desire: Watching a 3D printer make my house
Symbol: bolt, a piece of popcorn and ashes, wrapped in duct tape, with a mental symbol on top.
Space: Drive-way of a newly built house
Interaction: Weather, cars, someone will throw it away
Logic: The first time I go to a town hall meeting for free housing for everybody, I will do a tazan yell while I jump up and down, 3X fast, when I get home. After I visit a free, consciousness temple that is for everyone, I will flap my arms like wings while running around my room and jumping on the bed and couch, for 1 minute. The first time there is a planned, world-wide, dream event, I will hug a street-light for 15 seconds and walk backwards in my house, from the front door to my bedroom.


To integrate this into my perspective, I will post or tell someone about stories and events or post images, that are relative to this perspective, on a daily basis.
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lol

Your logic is wildly genius!
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Make a Genius....that EVERYONE REMEMBERS who they are.

We could even make the Genius a group project!!!! Anyone interested?
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So we all experience something related to what neo chaol is going through. REMEMBERING who you are completely is a load of info to handle in this human experience. Would you still call yourself human or perspective if you remembered yourself 100%. Perhaps some may gradually remember. Is that what we are all here for.

Chaol has made a genius for us for gold. Would perceiving golds true value still have occurred in perspective if he never introduced the idea.

Possibilities of printing a 3d home be much closer if you had gold. Step on the gas885 into that reality by accessing a 3d printer with gold investments.

CHAOL:
See everyone soon!
I shall return when the price of gold is ~$21,000 per ounce.
An amusing statement for some, I'm sure :)

Chaol is playing chess, Neochaol also playing chess or checkers. So does he return when price of gold is ~$21,000 per ounce. Did you buy or not. (50% of gold harvested is turned into jewelry) Does Neochaol return and gold does not hit ~$21,000 per ounce. And what does it mean if you didn't cross the bridge into a reality where gold hits $21,000.

Neochaol noted crash happens in August. How direct is neochaol vs Chaol.

Gold smuggling: Dubai to Chennai via Delhi
CHENNAI: Directorate of Revenue Intelligence (DRI) sleuths on the trail of 16kg gold boarded the Delhi-Chennai Rajdhani Express when it neared the outskirts of the city and followed the smugglers all the way to city before seizing the contraband and arresting four people, including two Sri Lankans, on Friday(8/2/13).

Really its illegal to transport gold.

If cash wasn't an issue this reality would be destroyed in a sec >:)))
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Desire: Watching a 3D printer make my house
Symbol: bolt, a piece of popcorn and ashes, wrapped in duct tape, with a mental symbol on top.
Space: Drive-way of a newly built house
Interaction: Weather, cars, someone will throw it away
Logic: The first time I go to a town hall meeting for free housing for everybody, I will do a tazan yell while I jump up and down, 3X fast, when I get home. After I visit a free, consciousness temple that is for everyone, I will flap my arms like wings while running around my room and jumping on the bed and couch, for 1 minute. The first time there is a planned, world-wide, dream event, I will hug a street-light for 15 seconds and walk backwards in my house, from the front door to my bedroom.


To integrate this into my perspective, I will post or tell someone about stories and events or post images, that are relative to this perspective, on a daily basis.
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lol

Your logic is wildly genius!
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LOL, thank you, sir. I have to give credit to LeKing for the idea of a worldwide dream event!

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Make a Genius....that EVERYONE REMEMBERS who they are.

We could even make the Genius a group project!!!! Anyone interested?
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So we all experience something related to what neo chaol is going through. REMEMBERING who you are completely is a load of info to handle in this human experience. Would you still call yourself human or perspective if you remembered yourself 100%. Perhaps some may gradually remember. Is that what we are all here for.

Chaol has made a genius for us for gold. Would perceiving golds true value still have occurred in perspective if he never introduced the idea.

Possibilities of printing a 3d home be much closer if you had gold. Step on the gas885 into that reality by accessing a 3d printer with gold investments.

CHAOL:
See everyone soon!
I shall return when the price of gold is ~$21,000 per ounce.
An amusing statement for some, I'm sure :)

Chaol is playing chess, Neochaol also playing chess or checkers. So does he return when price of gold is ~$21,000 per ounce. Did you buy or not. (50% of gold harvested is turned into jewelry) Does Neochaol return and gold does not hit ~$21,000 per ounce. And what does it mean if you didn't cross the bridge into a reality where gold hits $21,000.

Neochaol noted crash happens in August. How direct is neochaol vs Chaol.

Gold smuggling: Dubai to Chennai via Delhi
CHENNAI: Directorate of Revenue Intelligence (DRI) sleuths on the trail of 16kg gold boarded the Delhi-Chennai Rajdhani Express when it neared the outskirts of the city and followed the smugglers all the way to city before seizing the contraband and arresting four people, including two Sri Lankans, on Friday(8/2/13).

Really its illegal to transport gold.

If cash wasn't an issue this reality would be destroyed in a sec >:)))
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Oh my goodness. Now look who the genius is!
wow


I had forgotten Chaol posted that. So, let's change the Genius! IE:

Desire: Watch a 3D printer make my home.
Symbol: Wire, twine and plastic twisted together and a mental symbol on top.
Space: Finger.
Interaction: Finger moving and doing things. People will see it and ask about it.
Logic: After I give gold for a 3D printer, I will do a tazan yell while I jump up and down, 3X fast, when I get home. After I see Chaol posting again, I will flap my arms like wings while running around my room and jumping on the bed and couch, for 1 minute. The first time there is a planned, world-wide, dream event, I will hug a street-light for 15 seconds and walk backwards in my house, from the front door to my bedroom.


To integrate this into my perspective, I will post or tell someone about stories and events or post images, that are relative to this perspective, on a daily basis. I will study about gold and leave symbols around books on gold, stores where gold is sold and sign-up for a newsletter about gold.

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Some of us here (most?) seem to anticipate what you call doom, and want something "exciting" to happen.

Back in June on this thread (page 35 onwards) I talked about my world merging with yours starting September 2, and additional events occurring on September 9th and September 23.

Energies from my world 'built up' on September 2, were released and were received by your world on September 9, as advised.

I also said a few months ago that starting September 23, things will intensify and become more obvious that a new set of rules is coming into play (that a new kind of physical world will rise to the surface).

That, too, is starting up as scheduled. Today, you are no longer in the Earth that you were born in.

All of it has come to pass, yet it doesn't seem "exciting" until something physically substantial occurs and is very, very obvious, right?

For those who are awaiting something physically exciting, you'll get what you asked for on October 1.

Whether you fear or jump for joy is entirely up to you and really makes no difference. It will be interesting to see how bored you get of it.

(When I say Ecsys is running the show, I don't mean Ecsys models. I mean that I, Chaol, am running the show and deciding the direction of what will and won't be experienced physically. You are now in a new world, my world, and what happens is "up to me" until we all learn how to work within it better.)

I know it all sounds crazy and unbelievable. Think of it as entertainment, if you'd like. Some parts (most?) are cryptic for a reason. All kinds of people are reading this thread.

(Think of how people might have felt a few years ago when you told them something was fishy about the official story regarding the September 11, 2001 events. Now consider that someone is feeling the same way about this thread. They'd simply rather not think about something so unbelievable. It's too complicated. So, they'd rather ignore the material, evidence, concepts, meaning, etc.)

The fact is that something very substantial is happening right now and very few know what is happening, or what 'will' happen because they are no longer running the show.

Unfortunately, I can't tell you exactly what will happen (or tomorrow's lottery numbers) or exactly how to teleport, etc. But I will give you the tools and mental resources you need to get there and to figure it out yourself. Whether you do or not is entirely up to you.

It's not difficult, actually. It is only so when we think in the old, retiring ways. You are in a dream now. So learn to think that way.

You will get there, regardless of whether or not you understand this thread. It serves as a reference.


I post here for the historic record (and for our friends in high places). Again, I apologize for not being able to yet answer your specific questions lately but hope to get to them as soon as I can.

Take care and talk to you soon.
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Interesting post from Chaol, Sept, 2011.

Btw, 12th house has this to say about Chaol's statment about returning after gold hits $21,000 per ounce.


"Chaol made that statement in October 2011 (Page 61). He came back multiple times after having said that.

Somebody once asked him why he was back so early, since gold was only at $1,500 per ounce, and he said something to the effect that paper gold was selling for $1,500 per ounce, but that real gold was much higher priced. If you want to look for it, he mentions that all the gold in the world would not fill a tennis court."
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Alien life, represents Canada... case closed. bsflag
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Some of us here (most?) seem to anticipate what you call doom, and want something "exciting" to happen.

Back in June on this thread (page 35 onwards) I talked about my world merging with yours starting September 2, and additional events occurring on September 9th and September 23.

Energies from my world 'built up' on September 2, were released and were received by your world on September 9, as advised.

I also said a few months ago that starting September 23, things will intensify and become more obvious that a new set of rules is coming into play (that a new kind of physical world will rise to the surface).

That, too, is starting up as scheduled. Today, you are no longer in the Earth that you were born in.

All of it has come to pass, yet it doesn't seem "exciting" until something physically substantial occurs and is very, very obvious, right?

For those who are awaiting something physically exciting, you'll get what you asked for on October 1.

Whether you fear or jump for joy is entirely up to you and really makes no difference. It will be interesting to see how bored you get of it.

(When I say Ecsys is running the show, I don't mean Ecsys models. I mean that I, Chaol, am running the show and deciding the direction of what will and won't be experienced physically. You are now in a new world, my world, and what happens is "up to me" until we all learn how to work within it better.)

I know it all sounds crazy and unbelievable. Think of it as entertainment, if you'd like. Some parts (most?) are cryptic for a reason. All kinds of people are reading this thread.

(Think of how people might have felt a few years ago when you told them something was fishy about the official story regarding the September 11, 2001 events. Now consider that someone is feeling the same way about this thread. They'd simply rather not think about something so unbelievable. It's too complicated. So, they'd rather ignore the material, evidence, concepts, meaning, etc.)

The fact is that something very substantial is happening right now and very few know what is happening, or what 'will' happen because they are no longer running the show.

Unfortunately, I can't tell you exactly what will happen (or tomorrow's lottery numbers) or exactly how to teleport, etc. But I will give you the tools and mental resources you need to get there and to figure it out yourself. Whether you do or not is entirely up to you.

It's not difficult, actually. It is only so when we think in the old, retiring ways. You are in a dream now. So learn to think that way.

You will get there, regardless of whether or not you understand this thread. It serves as a reference.


I post here for the historic record (and for our friends in high places). Again, I apologize for not being able to yet answer your specific questions lately but hope to get to them as soon as I can.

Take care and talk to you soon.
 Quoting: Chaol




Interesting post from Chaol, Sept, 2011.

Btw, 12th house has this to say about Chaol's statment about returning after gold hits $21,000 per ounce.


"Chaol made that statement in October 2011 (Page 61). He came back multiple times after having said that.

Somebody once asked him why he was back so early, since gold was only at $1,500 per ounce, and he said something to the effect that paper gold was selling for $1,500 per ounce, but that real gold was much higher priced. If you want to look for it, he mentions that all the gold in the world would not fill a tennis court."
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Very interestingshocked

Warren E. Buffett has a good way to illustrate how little gold there is. He has calculated that if all the gold in the world were made into a cube, its edge would be only 69 feet long. So the cube would fit comfortably within a baseball infield.

Tennis court is 78 feet long by 27 feet.

I also noticed gold is relatively spread out in the world by population size.

Guess is paper gold is being manipulated relative to dollar being printed. Paper scheme gets exposed real value shines.
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Would perceiving golds true value still have occurred in perspective if he never introduced the idea

For me yes, I knew about paper manipulation of precious metal prices before Chaol talked about it.
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Gold Mining Costs Per Ounce

Mark Cutifani, CEO of AngloGold Ashanti: "If you want to go on a total cost basis, we're running at about $1200. The industry average is probably around $1250 an ounce."
Steve Letwin, CEO of Iamgold: "It's going to be difficult for anybody to produce gold at less than $1200 an ounce.

Lots of miners have been laid off, company's on hold. August is the start of paper gold crashing the meltdown has already happened. If your paying 1200 an ounce its like your a boss running a mining company without costing you the time. Price of paper gold currently $1278.18.

The focus is yet on India again.

National Spot Exchange Ltd (NSEL), a subsidiary of Financial Technologies (India) Ltd, suspended trading in e-series contracts on Tuesday. "Clients are unable to sell their demat certificate after NSEL stopped its trading, the only option is to convert it into delivery or square off their holdings at the market price of the day.

^If those guys don't get their gold. It may just be the start.

Chaols last post (06/27/2013) had an article that stated

At this pace, the world's biggest gold vault located below 1 CMP, and just next to the Fed's own gold vault, will be empty in about 1.5-2 months. JP Morgan and Comex is emptying at an alarming rate.

It seems like things can escalate fairly quickly this month...

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^If those guys don't get their gold. It may just be the start.

Chaols last post (06/27/2013) had an article that stated

At this pace, the world's biggest gold vault located below 1 CMP, and just next to the Fed's own gold vault, will be empty in about 1.5-2 months. JP Morgan and Comex is emptying at an alarming rate.

It seems like things can escalate fairly quickly this month...

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I would say so. However,
Thread: USA's GOLD: We have MORE than imagined from secret mines on Moon

Also, in the natural health world, it is well-known that supplements, made with gold found in meteorites, heal diseases such as Aids, etc:

Gold found in that metorite that flew over Russia:
[link to www.foxnews.com]

More about gold in meteorites:
[link to www.bbc.co.uk]

Gold isn't all that's found in meteorites:
[link to voices.yahoo.com]

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JUST HAD A MASSIVE REALIZATION!!!!!


We can NEVER solve Chaol's riddles...!!!

Because only Captain Kirk can solve it.

For he is the only one and true...Enterprising Mind.
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Re: Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.
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Hi.

It is as expected. "We're not done yet," as is said :)

There is more going on than what is obvious to most of you.

Time will tell us if these words have some weight.

I have no idea if you are a visionary or insane, or both, but you are no idiot. That is for sure. But still you have descended into largely indecipherable replies in this thread. The common tactic of the deceitful. I don't care either way. Still loving it and I will happily read what you write trying to discern metaphor and fact apart and alike.
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As I mentioned on the other thread, I'm "playing chess" not checkers.

It could be said that I have "descended into largely indecipherable replies" or it could be said that I actually know what I am doing and it's part of the plan. (Please draw your own conclusions about this, of course.)

If someone from 2,000 years future knocked on your door to speak with you, do you think you would be able to see that person and be able to communicate with them?

Likely, it would be very far from your cognitive framework. You would interpret it as something else, perhaps a bird.

For effective communication rather than the kind of immediate, direct communication we often desire, the effort could appear as a mysterious letter first.

This opens up the door to a logical progression to more distant experiences.

Thus, an "Introduction to a new way of thinking" in order to have the framework necessary to perceive what comes next.

"Direct" is not perceived in this regard. It is largely ignored and rejected.

"Indirect" can be frustrating, yes. But it is often necessary to communicate distant concepts.
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It's part of the plan for us NOT to understand....just yet.
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Thanks for getting me to stop and think about things Chaol. :)
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Certainly.

Hopefully I can be more direct in the future without the mass perceptual resistance.
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And here's why he hasn't been as direct as many of us think we would like.
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There is no need to learn Ecsys. It would help, but you will learn it automatically in due time.
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Talking about perspective... ;-)

(It may prove useful to print out the Ecsys material in case you want to read it while you're sleeping. Every page of this forum, if you're so inclined, is helpful.)
 Quoting: Chaol


I'm making a PDF of chaol's posts for easier reading.
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Tuuuuur, do you happen to have the pdf's of Chaol's posts uploaded somewhere so we can read them?
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PDF
[link to ecsys.weebly.com]

Hosted by CatCarel complied by 12thHouse

A neat way to search this thread is to open google.com in the search bar copy and paste:


"gold"site:godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message872590



Chaol, you said that 'you' will 'come back' when gold reach $20,000. This is going to happen in September?
 Quoting: Gespenst


Things get hot in summer as this year draws to a close. The true monetary value of gold may begin to surface yet.

Search for 'DHS Insider's two reported interviews and watch the situation in Europe and Russo-China and at home.

This is all the growing irrelevance of this brand of physicality, all illustrated in a certain narrative.

It's not war, conspiracy, government, etc. That is just what it seems like. It's really one kind of reality becoming irrelevant and being replaced by an other. The details are not as important as the meaning.
 Quoting: Chaol


Yes.. gold will still reach $23,000+ per ounce. This is because physical gold and paper gold will be priced differently. (Most of the 'gold' in the world is paper gold. If paper gold is priced at $1,500 an ounce, how much do you think real gold is worth?)


Enjoy the ride. Be back in a bit.
 Quoting: Chaol


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