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WW3 Europe front. UPDATE page 532 -February 2024, the decisive month

 
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Like shooting a bb gun at an elephant. Won't do much of anything at all.

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Macron's address, on top of other countries so-called measures to curb the pandemic, is going to fit perfectly on my update tomorrow, which is ready, btw.


I like to wait (you know I am a patient person) and post it when I said I will post it.

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UPDATES FROM ITALY

+ 7332 new positive cases
+ 43 dead patients

+ 394 hospitalized patients
[now 5470 patients currently hospitalized]

+ 25 patients in ICU
[now 539 patients currently in ICU]


152.196 swab tests.

(take note that in the total number of swab tests are also counted the "control tests" for people in quarantine at home who, if tested negative, are added to the total of recovered people)

+ 2037 recovered (negative to the control swab test)
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ITALY was slow out of the blocks. But catching.

Think the average amount of tests per day is only around the 100k..
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Macron's address, on top of other countries so-called measures to curb the pandemic, is going to fit perfectly on my update tomorrow, which is ready, btw.


I like to wait (you know I am a patient person) and post it when I said I will post it.
 Quoting: deplorable recollector


At minimum....check your damned messages.

:)

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Macron's address, on top of other countries so-called measures to curb the pandemic, is going to fit perfectly on my update tomorrow, which is ready, btw.


I like to wait (you know I am a patient person) and post it when I said I will post it.
 Quoting: deplorable recollector


Thought you were giving up on future updates ??
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Macron's address, on top of other countries so-called measures to curb the pandemic, is going to fit perfectly on my update tomorrow, which is ready, btw.


I like to wait (you know I am a patient person) and post it when I said I will post it.
 Quoting: deplorable recollector


Thought you were giving up on future updates ??
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Macron's address, on top of other countries so-called measures to curb the pandemic, is going to fit perfectly on my update tomorrow, which is ready, btw.


I like to wait (you know I am a patient person) and post it when I said I will post it.
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Look forward to reading the update.

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Macron's address, on top of other countries so-called measures to curb the pandemic, is going to fit perfectly on my update tomorrow, which is ready, btw.


I like to wait (you know I am a patient person) and post it when I said I will post it.
 Quoting: deplorable recollector


Look forward to reading the update.

Thank you for all the work you have done to keep our big, dysfunctional, but wonderful, GLP family ahead of the curve.
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So ahead of the curve like feb - again nobody believes me!
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Macron's address, on top of other countries so-called measures to curb the pandemic, is going to fit perfectly on my update tomorrow, which is ready, btw.


I like to wait (you know I am a patient person) and post it when I said I will post it.
 Quoting: deplorable recollector


Thought you were giving up on future updates ??
UK Keep Calm Sma
 Quoting: ParamedicUK



The update for October 15th. was already announced, and the general lines were ready 2 months ago.


I have said, several times, that I don't know what will be the path for the second wave : full lock-downs, whack-a-mole half assed-measures or let the virus ran amok.


The 15th October update was prepared for all of the above scenarios, in general lines, with changes according to events that will take place from August until October 15th.


Slowly, but surely, my personal theory that "they" will let the virus ran amok, betting on herd immunity, and faking measures that will have no impact, is now reality.



When I chose October 15th., as the due date for make or break time, I knew that by this date, there will be enough events that will confirm my theory.



As such, the tomorrow's update is not only a planned one, but is the most telling one, because it will show, what is coming, with almost 100% accuracy.


My update on 11th, called by myself, THE UPDATE, presented an image of what will happen in the next 6 months, IF full lock-downs are in place by the end of this month.


I hoped that this will be the case. It is not. Macron and others confirmed that we won't have full lock-downs this month.


This not only changes everything, but the planned update for tomorrow is more extensive, it covers the next 12 months, and the numbers are far more bigger.
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Thx DR waiting with baited breath but fear what you say is coming...and I know is coming! sigh.....
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DR thanks for explaining that.

I feel the same - artificial measures that aim the blame at the public but actually do fuck all.

We will see the true effects of exponential growth on the 90% of the worlds population that are waiting to catch it!

It is not going to be a pleasant scenario.

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DR thanks for explaining that.

I feel the same - artificial measures that aim the blame at the public but actually do fuck all.

We will see the true effects of exponential growth on the 90% of the worlds population that are waiting to catch it!

It is not going to be a pleasant scenario.
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Heartbreaking.

And the hoaxers will only make the situation worse.
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Since covid is claimed to be airborne, and rides on larger particles in the air, any 'swab test' that is NOT DONE IN A PERFECTLY STERILE ENVIRONMENT is likely a contaminated sample.

Hence the many erroneous test results.

They got your DNA, though, which was the point of TPTB after all.

With all the evidence of a covid shamdemic, how is this thread not dead... it was crap from the get go, and the original premise failed almost immediately! The modelling stinks to high heaven! However, a great example of how science bends the truth or throws it out the window if it suits the 'outcome'.

Total joke!!
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Macron's address, on top of other countries so-called measures to curb the pandemic, is going to fit perfectly on my update tomorrow, which is ready, btw.


I like to wait (you know I am a patient person) and post it when I said I will post it.
 Quoting: deplorable recollector


And the WHO now saying lockdowns are not necessary, gives world leaders a scapegoat if they chose to take that path.

There is nothing a politician loves more than making decisions for which they are not held accountable.
I'm not from Canada, not that there's anything wrong with that.....
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UPDATE: The curfew will be implemented in 8 French cities including Paris, for at least 6 weeks, December 1st

Other cities include Lille, Lyon, Toulouse, Montpellier, Grenoble and Rouen and Marseille
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UPDATE: The curfew will be implemented in 8 French cities including Paris, for at least 6 weeks, December 1st

Other cities include Lille, Lyon, Toulouse, Montpellier, Grenoble and Rouen and Marseille
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79490080



We all know that the virus is especially active between 9 p.m. and 6 a.m., and only inside metro areas.


Like vampires. Urban vampires.


/s

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Person got sick again. Different strain, more severe illness.

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UPDATE: The curfew will be implemented in 8 French cities including Paris, for at least 6 weeks, December 1st

Other cities include Lille, Lyon, Toulouse, Montpellier, Grenoble and Rouen and Marseille
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79490080



We all know that the virus is especially active between 9 p.m. and 6 a.m.


/s
 Quoting: deplorable recollector


Well, I get the humor but those are the hours people like to party and in close quarters, so in a sense, yes. But totally inadequate measures if life outside of those hours continues as is.
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UPDATE: The curfew will be implemented in 8 French cities including Paris, for at least 6 weeks, December 1st

Other cities include Lille, Lyon, Toulouse, Montpellier, Grenoble and Rouen and Marseille
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79490080



We all know that the virus is especially active between 9 p.m. and 6 a.m.


/s
 Quoting: deplorable recollector


Well, I get the humor but those are the hours people like to party and in close quarters, so in a sense, yes. But totally inadequate measures if life outside of those hours continues as is.
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And they will continue to party, even more so.


Instead of leaving the pub at 11 p.m., go to a party and leave at 3 or 4 a.m...they will leave the pub at 8:30 pm and STILL go to the party, except now they can't leave the party until 6 a.m., because of the curfew.


These measures actually make things worse.

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Covid times
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So the WHO is now reversing course saying lockdowns should be avoided. Their reasoning is faulty or they think the virus isn't serious or maybe they just aren't all that bright. I don't know, but this could be game-changer if countries across the world take this advice. If nothing else, anti-maskers will use it as fuel for their argument further creating a divide.

I don't know if you can really even factor it into your model. It would be the WOT (wide open throttle) perspective, I suppose:

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Or Sinister......it's exactly that in my opinion. Worldwide
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California got clobbered in the summer. We are now at the easing cycle with improved numbers going in the downslope direction.

Talks of schools reopening soon as in in person school attendance. The timing being ripe for our fall season being much later than everyone else.

Everything is easing and soon all will be open just in time in late October and early November. We will be enjoying the flu and coronavirus combo shit show.

Third time is a charm. Only this time, we'd like to repeat the short distance history of what we learned in the summer.
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Watch Texas should have been open for awhile. I know several
Teachers and cases are being hidden.
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California got clobbered in the summer. We are now at the easing cycle with improved numbers going in the downslope direction.

Talks of schools reopening soon as in in person school attendance. The timing being ripe for our fall season being much later than everyone else.

Everything is easing and soon all will be open just in time in late October and early November. We will be enjoying the flu and coronavirus combo shit show.

Third time is a charm. Only this time, we'd like to repeat the short distance history of what we learned in the summer.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78576165


Watch Texas should have been open for awhile. I know several
Teachers and cases are being hidden.
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**Schools have been open.**
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And another:

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UPDATE: The curfew will be implemented in 8 French cities including Paris, for at least 6 weeks, December 1st

Other cities include Lille, Lyon, Toulouse, Montpellier, Grenoble and Rouen and Marseille
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79490080



We all know that the virus is especially active between 9 p.m. and 6 a.m.


/s
 Quoting: deplorable recollector


Well, I get the humor but those are the hours people like to party and in close quarters, so in a sense, yes. But totally inadequate measures if life outside of those hours continues as is.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79490080



And they will continue to party, even more so.


Instead of leaving the pub at 11 p.m., go to a party and leave at 3 or 4 a.m...they will leave the pub at 8:30 pm and STILL go to the party, except now they can't leave the party until 6 a.m., because of the curfew.


These measures actually make things worse.
 Quoting: deplorable recollector


Perhaps. I am not agreeing with the measures and defending it, but most hard core party people don't want to start at 8:30. The French don't even go out to eat until 9pm. And most people can't stay out partying all night like that for too long if they work or have other responsibilities.
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Macron's address, on top of other countries so-called measures to curb the pandemic, is going to fit perfectly on my update tomorrow, which is ready, btw.


I like to wait (you know I am a patient person) and post it when I said I will post it.
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That's just mean. Lol. chuckle
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Curfews only work if enforced. My country has had a curfew since March, but people do exactly what DR says: stay overnight, so the carriers have time to infect every single one.
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UPDATE: The curfew will be implemented in 8 French cities including Paris, for at least 6 weeks, December 1st

Other cities include Lille, Lyon, Toulouse, Montpellier, Grenoble and Rouen and Marseille
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79490080



We all know that the virus is especially active between 9 p.m. and 6 a.m., and only inside metro areas.


Like vampires. Urban vampires.


/s
 Quoting: deplorable recollector



What a mess... Looks like EU leaders are trying everything to avoid a real lockdown...

Btw, French people can still enjoy "matinee" parties!

(yeah, I am sarcastic).

Nothing against French people, it's almost the same in Italy, were Prime Minister said that people are no longer allowed to consume food and beverage outside bars and pubs after 9pm...
In the meanwhile Italian Police Forces are discovering (on a daily basis) pubs literally renewed as "illegal" dancing clubs.
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This is why schools will help to create the next wave.


Results: Survival rates of SARS-CoV-2 were determined at different temperatures and D-values, Z-values and half-life were calculated. We obtained half lives of between 1.7 and 2.7 days at 20 °C, reducing to a few hours when temperature was elevated to 40 °C. With initial viral loads broadly equivalent to the highest titres excreted by infectious patients, viable virus was isolated for up to 28 days at 20 °C from common surfaces such as glass, stainless steel and both paper and polymer banknotes. Conversely, infectious virus survived less than 24 h at 40 °C on some surfaces.


Conclusion: These findings demonstrate SARS-CoV-2 can remain infectious for significantly longer time periods than generally considered possible. These results could be used to inform improved risk mitigation procedures to prevent the fomite spread of COVID-19."

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THIS is why I have been baking mail and money since Feb. One hour at 200F. We already KNEW this months ago, although further confirmation is helpful.

Most packages go into my truck which is not in use. 104F/40C is no problem here in Texas even in this mild weather.

I just age the packages for a few days.
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California got clobbered in the summer. We are now at the easing cycle with improved numbers going in the downslope direction.

Talks of schools reopening soon as in in person school attendance. The timing being ripe for our fall season being much later than everyone else.

Everything is easing and soon all will be open just in time in late October and early November. We will be enjoying the flu and coronavirus combo shit show.

Third time is a charm. Only this time, we'd like to repeat the short distance history of what we learned in the summer.
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Watch Texas should have been open for awhile. I know several
Teachers and cases are being hidden.

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Same here. They do not even want to admit to infected staff/students. Hiding behind HIPPA.
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