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Anonymous Coward User ID: 20791108 United States 02/14/2013 12:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I can't be bothered to read all the posts. Is it going to hit us or not? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33809069 i dont have nasas number atm, but i dont think youd get much anyways, i dont know i dont think most of us do tbh. maybe maybe not probably not, but if it keeps spinning around us long enough it will close the gap sooner or later :P |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 74444 United States 02/14/2013 12:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i hope it will hit so much,i really do i hope it hits i hope it fucking opens that louisiana sinkhole and yellowstone so we all go fuck ourselves That's sick. You don't even know what reality is. But, we will see tomorrow, becasue I will bump this thread after the asteroid pases and official data is given, so that a PhD-er NEVER, EVER to assume thet he knows shit. Quoting: recollector No, you won't. Because you are wrong. I will though. Just to put you straight. Another guy that thinks he is God, or at least Jesus, since Astro took the God place. No. We just know we're right. We've got the data and the calculations. All you have is hot air. Some things can be know with perfect certainty. This is one of them. Eyup. Wanna bet that you might be also wrong? Let's say with 5% or more? And who loses to is an idiot and forever shut his mouth? Quoting: Croatian Coward 34374280 Let's get serious. How about €500.- Let's make it a €1,000.- and the keys to your car. You don't know shit. You're a scientific illiterate, a frigging idiot, and and an arrogant moran. You don't know that. This pass will significantly alter its orbit, it actually has to be reclassified. For all we know it spend most of its lifetime in another part of the solar system Can. The sky is big though,and it's a teeny weeny pebble. Eyup. Well, officially he did, since only idiots can believe that NASA didn't dicovered like 30 years ago. Quoting: recollector They just didn't tell about it... Ah, a conspiracy fantasy to handwave away the facts. Fantasies don't need explanations. Only facts do. Exactly the same I'm thinking. An asteroid very close to earth collision discovered by an spanish amateur and not by NASA who spent millions for searching asteroids. Quoting: German Coward 34382404 An amateur with access to a really big telescope. (.45m) Until recently most comets and asteroids were discovered by amateurs. They have the advantage of having a lot more eyes on the sky than the pros. After the NASA programmes the La Sagra Sky Survey is actually the most prolific discoverer of NEOs. They've discovered 5.855 asteroids in total, 49 of them NEOs. If the initial trajectory had been worked out for an object assumed to be 47m diameter, and now suddenly they say it is 65m diameter. Surely that will more than double the mass and the calculations would need to be thoroughly reworked? Quoting: Curious George 12825086 No. It doesn't. It's orbit is shaped by the gravity of the Sun and Earth. It is to small to shape the orbit of Earth. Which gets me back to the free-floating astronaut and the ISS which masses a 1,000 as much. What about a magnetic pull? What if the asteroid is comprised of ferrous metals? Is there any chance it could pass through one of Earths magnetic field lines, one of opposing polarity, and get pulled in... or at least, alter it's course slightly? Quoting: Artlicious No. Earth's magnetic field is pathetic. It can catch charged particles, not rocks. You even know what G is?? "has been measured"....no, it has been ESTIMATED...waaaaaaaaaaaaaay to different thing: The accuracy of the measured value of G has increased only modestly since the original Cavendish experiment. Foot. Meet bullet. Why, oh why, are there so many morans? This. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 20791108 United States 02/14/2013 12:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Japanese beer gets a bad rep, but there's a lot decent brews these days. I'm pretty sure some places in the US stock it. Stone brewery do a really awesome green tea IPA, which is worth tracking down. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33809069 do the radioactive ions come for free ? if its got alcohol in it ill drink it. |
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Artlicious User ID: 16923663 United States 02/14/2013 01:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What about a magnetic pull? What if the asteroid is comprised of ferrous metals? Is there any chance it could pass through one of Earths magnetic field lines, one of opposing polarity, and get pulled in... or at least, alter it's course slightly? Quoting: Artlicious No. Earth's magnetic field is pathetic. It can catch charged particles, not rocks. Thanks, I'be been doing some reading on this. [link to www.wisegeek.com] "30-60 microteslas for the Earth's magnetic field may not sound like a lot, but when you take into account the total volume of the field, its total energy is extremely large, much larger than any magnetic field generated artificially." "Magnetic pull? No *way.* Magnetic forces such as that decrease as 1/r^4, and even on earth they are barely enough to swing a compass" I figure NASA scientists calculate the impact probability for many asteroids, taking in account all the unknowns they can think of (which includes all the things you and I could think off, and a lot more). However I also think they would keep the truth hidden, if one was expected to hit. Unless they could say exactly where it would hit.. then maybe they would tell us to evacuate. Especially for one what isn't "that big" on the grand scale of things. So yeah, magnetic pull won't effect it anymore than possibly causing it to roll one way or the other.. A bit of a follow up question... Do we know of any asteroids that have a strong magnetic charge? Is it possible for an asteroid to be extremly magnetized? I'm doing some reseach and so-far have found this: [link to www.newton.dep.anl.gov] " A Sky and Telescope article from last July says "certain meteorites, particularly irons, stony-irons, and some ordinary chordates, can be distinctly magnetized." " "It is not known how Gaspra became magnetized. And if one asteroid is magnetic, surely other asteroids are, too. " Another article: [link to www.space.com] "Three decades ago, NASA's Venus Pioneer Orbiter noticed that the near-Earth asteroid 2201 Oljato caused a flurry of magnetic activity whenever it arrived inside Venus' orbit. " "All three times, the probe detected a roughly threefold increase of unusual magnetic peaks known as Interplanetary Field Enhancements (IFEs), both ahead of and behind the asteroid. But things had changed by the time Venus Express arrived at Earth's hellishly hot sister planet in 2006." Last Edited by Artlicious on 02/14/2013 01:07 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 34393590 Poland 02/14/2013 01:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if it's true than an amateur discovered DA14 in 2012, then is it possible that another similarly sized asteroid could be heading towards Earth and resulting in an impact in say, 6 months ? NASA said hey discovered the larger ones by now, but I think they meant 100m+ I think.. so I wonder how many 50m ones are yet undiscovered |
Artlicious User ID: 16923663 United States 02/14/2013 01:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if it's true than an amateur discovered DA14 in 2012, then is it possible that another similarly sized asteroid could be heading towards Earth and resulting in an impact in say, 6 months ? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34393590 NASA said hey discovered the larger ones by now, but I think they meant 100m+ I think.. so I wonder how many 50m ones are yet undiscovered Anything is possible, IMO. Just takes the right culmination of events/variables. And yes, I'm 100% positive there are many, many large NEO's that have not been discovered yet. Space is infinitely HUGE! Last Edited by Artlicious on 02/14/2013 01:10 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33575756 United States 02/14/2013 01:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If it only about 200 feet or so across and it is 17,000 miles away, how could ANYONE see it? Or do you think that they mean they could see it with a telescope? Also, wouldn't it need to be lit in some way for anyone to see it -- like a reflection? Sorry for what are probably stupid questions. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24597947 Canada 02/14/2013 01:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I asked this question, for Astro, in another thread, but I thought I'd ask it here too incase he doesn't see the other one. Quoting: Artlicious What about a magnetic pull? What if the asteroid is comprised of ferrous metals? Is there any chance it could pass through one of Earths magnetic field lines, one of opposing polarity, and get pulled in... or at least, alter it's course slightly? Yes, I was going to ask this question YESTERDAY! Please respond Astro.... If Dis-Ass-tro really is a PHD(in some mystery field) Show us the paperwork, you want cred in public it's time to puplicize your credentials, unti you do that IN PUBLIC you are just another NOBODY with "opinions" opinions shared by NASA and other Main Stream orgs. So why ask this Nobody for an "opinion" just because he says he's a phd does not mean it's true this is a public forum and anyone here can make stuff up, just because Obama said he was born in USA, we take his "word" for it. Astro provide us with tangible proof you are trained in astro physics and truly have your phd I will not take your word for it as I will not take obama's word about the nature of his citenzenship. STOP ASKING THIS SHILL FOR HIS OPINION, it's wrthless! |
Artlicious User ID: 16923663 United States 02/14/2013 01:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A couple more, "doomy" follow-up questions. Sorry, I like to think of all scenarios, my mind tends to go a 1000 miles a minute.. LOL Is there any chance DA14 will come close to an Earth orbiting satelite and possibly discharge and arc of energy / static electricity, that can fry the systems on that satelite? Also, What if DA14 were to hit a satelite, and that satelite hits another satelite, then those two hit even more. Untill all satelites are bumping off of each other and crashing down to Earth.. LOL, okay, I know this is highly, extremly not probable, however a doomer can dream.. LOL (not that I want that to happen, just saying) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 31566384 United States 02/14/2013 01:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | At its closest approach on Friday at 2:24 p.m. EST (1924 GMT), the asteroid will be 5,000 miles closer to Earth than the ring of GPS, weather and communications satellites in orbit around the planet. Still, the satellites and the planet are safe from impact, researchers say. [link to www.foxnews.com] My understanding was that the ring of GPS satellites was approx. 12500 miles above Earth. If this passes 5000 miles closer than the ring of GPS, then that would put it coming in at around 7500 miles from Earth! Can someone verify if this is correct? I know it is coming from Fox news but these numbers keep changing for the worse. |
Artlicious User ID: 16923663 United States 02/14/2013 01:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I asked this question, for Astro, in another thread, but I thought I'd ask it here too incase he doesn't see the other one. Quoting: Artlicious What about a magnetic pull? What if the asteroid is comprised of ferrous metals? Is there any chance it could pass through one of Earths magnetic field lines, one of opposing polarity, and get pulled in... or at least, alter it's course slightly? Yes, I was going to ask this question YESTERDAY! Please respond Astro.... If Dis-Ass-tro really is a PHD(in some mystery field) Show us the paperwork, you want cred in public it's time to puplicize your credentials, unti you do that IN PUBLIC you are just another NOBODY with "opinions" opinions shared by NASA and other Main Stream orgs. So why ask this Nobody for an "opinion" just because he says he's a phd does not mean it's true this is a public forum and anyone here can make stuff up, just because Obama said he was born in USA, we take his "word" for it. Astro provide us with tangible proof you are trained in astro physics and truly have your phd I will not take your word for it as I will not take obama's word about the nature of his citenzenship. STOP ASKING THIS SHILL FOR HIS OPINION, it's wrthless! The minute you, started "bitching" about Obama, I stopped reading. Stay on topic! (no offense, just saying, there are plenty of theads for that, go find one.. lol) Last Edited by Artlicious on 02/14/2013 01:20 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 34396626 Canada 02/14/2013 01:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A couple more, "doomy" follow-up questions. Quoting: Artlicious Sorry, I like to think of all scenarios, my mind tends to go a 1000 miles a minute.. LOL Is there any chance DA14 will come close to an Earth orbiting satelite and possibly discharge and arc of energy / static electricity, that can fry the systems on that satelite? Also, What if DA14 were to hit a satelite, and that satelite hits another satelite, then those two hit even more. Untill all satelites are bumping off of each other and crashing down to Earth.. LOL, okay, I know this is highly, extremly not probable, however a doomer can dream.. LOL (not that I want that to happen, just saying) plausible doom scenarios......even if far fetched.... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33807501 United States 02/14/2013 01:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Where will the Moon be when this rock passes by? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34254501 Where are the gravitational effects calculated at and how accurate can they be ? a Solar event in the next 36 hours could cause a trajectory shift, no? How about hitting a screw/junk at (whatever speed)? . ... right now the moon is on the side of the sun ... . ... "new moon" ... . |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 33807501 United States 02/14/2013 01:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm not sweating it... the whole Elenin shit last year had me crapping my pants, not a good time to be new to GLP! And that nut job MrCometWatch, what a crazy ol bastard.. had me telling friends about Kachinas and all sorts of wacky shit!. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10990462 . ... CONGRATULATIONS! ... you have mastered GLP! ... . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33807501 United States 02/14/2013 02:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This rock is estimated at 170,000 metric tons. The speed it is coming in and flying so close to earth it is without doubt a near miss, and the gravity space shear will create huge displacement of water from the oceans. All U.K military are on red alert for homeland emergency relief. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33940193 . ... saw a google route that would be over water ... that would line-up ... . ... line is south/north ward to the right of the middle east ... . |
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Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 4211721 United States 02/14/2013 05:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I asked this question, for Astro, in another thread, but I thought I'd ask it here too incase he doesn't see the other one. Quoting: Artlicious What about a magnetic pull? What if the asteroid is comprised of ferrous metals? Is there any chance it could pass through one of Earths magnetic field lines, one of opposing polarity, and get pulled in... or at least, alter it's course slightly? Yes, I was going to ask this question YESTERDAY! Please respond Astro.... If Dis-Ass-tro really is a PHD(in some mystery field) Show us the paperwork, you want cred in public it's time to puplicize your credentials, unti you do that IN PUBLIC you are just another NOBODY with "opinions" opinions shared by NASA and other Main Stream orgs. I will not provide personally identifiable information. It's like you want me to get killed. My "opinions" are backed up by observational evidence and fact. So why ask this Nobody for an "opinion" just because he says he's a phd does not mean it's true this is a public forum and anyone here can make stuff up, Quoting: ACPeople I trust know who I am, that does not include you. People ask me because they know I know my stuff and I back up what I say with evidence and facts. The proof is in the pudding, as they say. STOP ASKING THIS SHILL FOR HIS OPINION, it's wrthless! Blatant attempt at defamation. |
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Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 4211721 United States 02/14/2013 05:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I asked this question, for Astro, in another thread, but I thought I'd ask it here too incase he doesn't see the other one. Quoting: Artlicious What about a magnetic pull? What if the asteroid is comprised of ferrous metals? Is there any chance it could pass through one of Earths magnetic field lines, one of opposing polarity, and get pulled in... or at least, alter it's course slightly? It's an S-type asteroid, so it's composed mostly of stony silicates, but that aside, the effect of magnetic forces upon an asteroid are inconsequential compared to gravity. |