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Asteroid 2012 DA14 is getting bigger and bigger. WTF?

 
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Astro, please post your mathematical equations that determine your result.
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Good luck! I asked him to post his proof on another subject and he never did, he just go pissy with me and said this guy proved it, isnt that good enough for you?
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That is because Dr Astro is a shill
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Reminds me of a comedy on TV called Father Ted (you guys gotta watch it ,so funny).

Father Ted is demonstrating some plastic toy cows to Dougal.
Father Ted: ...OK, one last time. These are small... but the ones out there are far away. Small... far away... (Dougal is uncomprehending) Ah, forget it!hidinghidingbanana2banana2
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Father Ted!

I was just watching that today. Have all three seasons. xD

Strange how when he was at the fortune teller's tent during the first episode he drew three death cards, and died after the third season, isn't it?
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So then if the size is bigger and the original size they said would effect a 750 mile area imagine what a bigger size would effect?? Of course though astromut says it wont hit so I guess we believe him, however if they were wrong at NASA on size then how do we know they were not wrong on where its going?? Of course if they were wrong they wouldn't tell us would they??
 Quoting: pmb1


No they won't... They don't know anything more than you and me and the astroDR. They just hope that it won't hit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33891652


Yes, actually people like me and those at NASA do know more than you.

 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Even if people like you an NASA know more, how can we expect to believe that you guys would tell the public EVERYTHING that you guys know, for example, that the size and mass of that object is far greater than what you have been publicly stating? rant
 Quoting: Solar Guardian


Excuse me? I'm an amateur astronomer, I have no reason NOT tot tell the public everything I know. It's right there in the video dude, H = 24.4 according to my calculations. In other words, if the asteroid's albedo were an average .15 or so, the size would be about 45 meters. That's even smaller than NASA's estimate. If it's a dark rock with an albedo of about 0.05 then the size is about 78 meters according to my calculation of its absolute magnitude. By NASA's it would be about 89 meters with an albedo of 0.05.
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Astro, please post your mathematical equations that determine your result.
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Good luck! I asked him to post his proof on another subject and he never did, he just go pissy with me and said this guy proved it, isnt that good enough for you?
 Quoting: Captaininyourface 34277072


That is because Dr Astro is a shill
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When it fails to hit on Friday, I will be vindicated, proven not to be a shill, and you will be leaving the forum as you promised.
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The bigger this thing actually is, the more Earth pulls it closer...
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I would have to assume when they said it would not hit, they were using the 45m number.

True that they should be updating that with the new size, but have they?

anyone?

if the trend continues...45, 52, 58, 65, etc. with three days to go we could easily find out it's 100m, so they have got to keep re-calcing the gravity effects, but will they tell us the new results?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 203352


maybe is a a kilometer or a few and they are just trying to confuse the amateurs til the last minute
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Actually by amateur observations the size seems to be a bit smaller than what NASA is saying, not larger.
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Astro, please post your mathematical equations that determine your result.
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Good luck! I asked him to post his proof on another subject and he never did, he just go pissy with me and said this guy proved it, isnt that good enough for you?
 Quoting: Captaininyourface 34277072


That is because Dr Astro is a shill
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When it fails to hit on Friday, I will be vindicated, proven not to be a shill, and you will be leaving the forum as you promised.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


I never promised I would leave this forum regardless of whatever happens. Stop puttin' words into my mouth. Quote if you can, Dr. Shill. chuckleneener
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Path went from 22,000 to 14,000 near miss
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[youtube] [link to www.youtube.com]

Near hit
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Good luck! I asked him to post his proof on another subject and he never did, he just go pissy with me and said this guy proved it, isnt that good enough for you?
 Quoting: Captaininyourface 34277072


That is because Dr Astro is a shill
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When it fails to hit on Friday, I will be vindicated, proven not to be a shill, and you will be leaving the forum as you promised.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


I never promised I would leave this forum regardless of whatever happens. Stop puttin' words into my mouth. Quote if you can, Dr. Shill. chuckleneener
 Quoting: Solar Guardian


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Yo Astro mutt, if this thing hits, can you promise not to ever post on GLP forever???? goawayaholebyekitty
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I agree. I will hold you to the same standard if it doesn't hit.
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tdownshillbartmoonbyekitty
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Thank you for acknowledging your agreement. See you Friday.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro

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Oh don't worry, Astro Nut will say it is 5 centimeters and it will NEVER hit ANYTHING......He always has all the answers..Just ask him!!!!
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Astro, please post your mathematical equations that determine your result.
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Good luck! I asked him to post his proof on another subject and he never did, he just go pissy with me and said this guy proved it, isnt that good enough for you?
 Quoting: Captaininyourface 34277072


That is because Dr Astro is a shill
 Quoting: Solar Guardian


Don't hate a guy that clearly knows what he's talking about, makes you look like a complete nob.
How the fuck is he a Shill? half the time I swear people just say that because they haven't the brains to understand the info put forward.
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Which third of Earth ie North/South America, or Europe/Middle East or China/India, is asteroiod passing by????????
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Which third of Earth ie North/South America, or Europe/Middle East or China/India, is asteroiod passing by????????
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And BTW I thought his simulation was brilliant!
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If they can not estimate the size correctly, how can we believe that they estimated the exact path?
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Oh, I also noticed a "Dr." in front of your name, do you have a PhD, if so, which field, published articles, etc.?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1018748


Yes I have a PhD, no I'm not giving you information that could lead to my personal real life identity, especially after all the threats I've received lately.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


I call BS on this, you are just a star geek, and your eduction status means zip in the the field you are discussing.

bsmeter2
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I have a PhD. Certain members of this forum whom I trust know who I am and can verify this themselves. I do not know nor trust you. My PhD is in a scientific field, I know what it takes to do good science. Astronomy is my hobby, I am an amateur astronomer, but this does not mean I am not skilled at it. Not only do I know how to determine if 2012 DA14 is a risk to hit us or not, not only did I do so, but I showed everyone here how to do it themselves if they don't believe me.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


The problem is your doing calculations that nasa has given the figures for. None of us beleive anything coming out of nasa. Besides.. The accuracy and predictive nature of certain remote.viewers have a better track record than you.. And they seem.to think some causes a coastal event ..possibly from a rock hitting the pacific anytime.bewteen now and june.

Your just another paid shill who jas infiltrated this forum and need to steer way clear of anything revolving around space here.. We simply dont beleive in nasa and this shit from them that you parrot back to us in every damn thread relating to asteroids or.comets..
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The bigger this thing actually is, the more Earth pulls it closer...
 Quoting: GLP Coward 7707807

Nature says you're wrong.
Is there anybody her who actually made it into highschool?

If you're outside a space station in orbit around the Earth and let go of an object.
What does the object do?
book

I'm pretty sure that nasa will again change the trajectory of the asteroid after new measures.
 Quoting: French Coward 34240632

What do you mean again?
DA14's trajectory is the same as the one published in March 2012.
The error bars are smaller now.
book

they cant even properly forecast a hurricane on earth and when it going to hit, they only tell you on news about 24 hours before a big major blizzard hits us and shut downs all businesses there. and we are expected to beleive there their accuracy as to if this asteroid will fly close or not?
 Quoting: UK Coward 32059868

Since you obviously don't know the difference between weather and falling we expect you to get an education.

Celestial motions are simple ballistic trajectories, governed only by gravity.
Weather on the other hand is about the most chaotic system imaginable.
(Chaos Theory was invented by a meteorologist.)

BTW, 80 years ago you would have gotten zero hours warning.
book

I believe it won't hit...

But I am sorry, if it were made out of marshmallows or lead would affect the mass and therefore effect the trajectory.

Mass = gravity...

It's 4th grade science.
 Quoting: El Tiburon

Fuckin' NO!

What the fuck is wrong with people?
We've know for CENTURIES that objects with different masses wil fall at the same rate.
book
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The problem is your doing calculations that nasa has given the figures for.
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The "figures" come from astronomers from all over the world.
The math can be found in books from the 18th century.

You, sir, are a fucking idiot.
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If the thing was going to hit, they don't know exactly where. So why would they warn anyone? What would that accomplish except chaos.
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Where is it supposed to come closest to hitting? Because I'm guessing that since the math boys got the size wrong that the distance (due to mass) is wrong as well. Brings the question back to what is the CORRECTED trajectory ?
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[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]


On the 10th for perspective.
[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov] Mercury has no moons correct? [link to en.wikipedia.org] Interesting
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Astro, please post your mathematical equations that determine your result.
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Good luck! I asked him to post his proof on another subject and he never did, he just go pissy with me and said this guy proved it, isnt that good enough for you?
 Quoting: Captaininyourface 34277072


That is because Dr Astro is a shill
 Quoting: Solar Guardian


Don't hate a guy that clearly knows what he's talking about, makes you look like a complete nob.
How the fuck is he a Shill? half the time I swear people just say that because they haven't the brains to understand the info put forward.
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shill
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Good luck! I asked him to post his proof on another subject and he never did, he just go pissy with me and said this guy proved it, isnt that good enough for you?
 Quoting: Captaininyourface 34277072


That is because Dr Astro is a shill
 Quoting: Solar Guardian


Don't hate a guy that clearly knows what he's talking about, makes you look like a complete nob.
How the fuck is he a Shill? half the time I swear people just say that because they haven't the brains to understand the info put forward.
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shill
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Somebody has to put that asshole ehm i mean Dr.asstroll in his spot.
rant and bump
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The bigger this thing actually is, the more Earth pulls it closer...
 Quoting: GLP Coward 7707807

Nature says you're wrong.
Is there anybody here who actually made it into highschool?

If you're outside a space station in orbit around the Earth and let go of an object.
What does the object do?
book
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD

Very few, and of those that did, almost none took any maths or science.


I believe it won't hit...

But I am sorry, if it were made out of marshmallows or lead would affect the mass and therefore effect the trajectory.

Mass = gravity...

It's 4th grade science.
 Quoting: El Tiburon

Fuckin' NO!

What the fuck is wrong with people?
We've know for CENTURIES that objects with different masses wil fall at the same rate.
book
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz

Arrogant Ignorance is what.
They are at a 5 year-old level arguing with Ph.D.s. It's laughable.
Plus, they're 400+ years behind in their studies.
Galileo's Pisa experiment showing gravitational acceleration is independent of mass:
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Reminds me of a comedy on TV called Father Ted (you guys gotta watch it ,so funny).

Father Ted is demonstrating some plastic toy cows to Dougal.
Father Ted: ...OK, one last time. These are small... but the ones out there are far away. Small... far away... (Dougal is uncomprehending) Ah, forget it!hidinghidingbanana2banana2
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lmao classic
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Astro, please post your mathematical equations that determine your result.
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Good luck! I asked him to post his proof on another subject and he never did, he just go pissy with me and said this guy proved it, isnt that good enough for you?
 Quoting: Captaininyourface 34277072


That is because Dr Astro is a shill
 Quoting: Solar Guardian


Don't hate a guy that clearly knows what he's talking about, makes you look like a complete nob.
How the fuck is he a Shill? half the time I swear people just say that because they haven't the brains to understand the info put forward.
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Yeah, totally agree near enough every thread I look at has post from this dude and they're always right.
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The problem is your doing calculations that nasa has given the figures for. None of us beleive anything coming out of nasa. Besides.. The accuracy and predictive nature of certain remote.viewers have a better track record than you.. And they seem.to think some causes a coastal event ..possibly from a rock hitting the pacific anytime.bewteen now and june.

Your just another paid shill who jas infiltrated this forum and need to steer way clear of anything revolving around space here.. We simply dont beleive in nasa and this shit from them that you parrot back to us in every damn thread relating to asteroids or.comets..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31754688



Other than the fact that NASA isn't providing the data from which the orbit is found you may want to also re-evaluate your opinion of NASA:

Track records on celestial doom:
NASA/scientists/rationalists - 100%
kooks/crackpots/trolls/scammers - 0%

I'd say that relying on NASA/scientist data is infinitely better than relying on Rubetube psychotic morans for information.

My cat has a better track record than the "out-of-the-box-thinkers".

PlanetX/Nibiru/Wormywood, etc.
Elenin
Tu24
any asteroid
any comet & its "debris trail"
any solar flare or CME
etc.
... all have been big fails for the woowoos.
0% accuracy for their psychotic predictions.

Who to believe?
100% correct or 0% correct?
That's a tough one.
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Earth MOID data is wrong
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If they can not estimate the size correctly, how can we believe that they estimated the exact path?
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Dude, so right on, they have no friggin clue.
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If they can not estimate the size correctly, how can we believe that they estimated the exact path?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33891652


Dude, so right on, they have no friggin clue.
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That's actually true when you think about it. The mass would be so important, let alone size to figure it out properly.
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[link to science.nasa.gov]

"2012 DA14 is a fairly typical near-Earth asteroid. It measures some 50 meters wide, neither very large nor very small, and is probably made of stone, as opposed to metal or ice. Yeomans estimates that an asteroid like 2012 DA14 flies past Earth, on average, every 40 years, yet actually strikes our planet only every 1200 years or so."

So they even don`t know the asteroid is made of. Will it hit earth, it will be a big difference if it made of stone or ice.


...and:

"2012 DA14 will definitely not hit Earth," emphasizes Yeomans. "The orbit of the asteroid is known well enough to rule out an impact."


Definitely? Nothing in nature is definitely, its all chaos.

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