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StormyNights  User ID: 76926602  United States01/25/2019 04:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Continuation of another thread of wonderful people with the best ever ideas for practical prepping even for those with little money. Quoting: Pooka We'll also address the issues which may come up about "food stamps" and how to best manage without them, or with reduced amounts, or with partial box of food delivered with partial "food stamps". We address power outage, heating and cooking methods, first aid, we run disaster scenarios to see if we know what to do. This is probably the only prepping thread a person would need right now, whether long-time prepper here to share, or newbie prepper here to learn. Welcome!! Join us and learn and teach and enjoy!! This thread might be a good place for me to put down this idea, OP. While I was sitting on the toilet about ninety minutes ago as of this post I was reading through a Diabetes booklet I have. I was also thinking about the inevitable collapse of American society, and all of Humanity shortly after the collapse of America. I realized that insulin has a definite shelf life. I actually thought the stuff could remain in cold storage for decades and room temperature for months straight. Nope... turns out the stuff is only viable in the best of circumstances for normally less than a month's time. Only the "best of the best" insulin lasts up to close to eighty days in the best of circumstances. This means once the power grid is out, probably for months or years straight, Type 1 Diabetes are going to definitely die within about a month's time. Unless if there are a number of them who happen to have operational generators with the proper maintenance and fuel to last for years or longer and manage to secure a vast amount of insulin all Type 1 Diabetics will die within about a month's time. Type 2 Diabetics on the other hand will have a chance to eat healthier depending on where they're surviving and being willing to eat healthy foodstuff. I could of sworn I heard of a plant in another GLP thread that is a natural form of insulin. If this is true this would be absolutely essential for Type 1 Diabetics to grow as much and often as possible during the later Christian Apocalypse Events. With type 1 diabetes, the pancreas can’t produce insulin. According to the ADA, 1.25 million Americans have this disorder. This is about 5 percent of all diagnosed cases. The ADA estimates that 40,000 people receive a type 1 diagnosis each year in the United States. |
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| darkwolf007 User ID: 77086694 United States01/25/2019 05:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Continuation of another thread of wonderful people with the best ever ideas for practical prepping even for those with little money. Quoting: Pooka We'll also address the issues which may come up about "food stamps" and how to best manage without them, or with reduced amounts, or with partial box of food delivered with partial "food stamps". We address power outage, heating and cooking methods, first aid, we run disaster scenarios to see if we know what to do. This is probably the only prepping thread a person would need right now, whether long-time prepper here to share, or newbie prepper here to learn. Welcome!! Join us and learn and teach and enjoy!! This thread might be a good place for me to put down this idea, OP. While I was sitting on the toilet about ninety minutes ago as of this post I was reading through a Diabetes booklet I have. I was also thinking about the inevitable collapse of American society, and all of Humanity shortly after the collapse of America. I realized that insulin has a definite shelf life. I actually thought the stuff could remain in cold storage for decades and room temperature for months straight. Nope... turns out the stuff is only viable in the best of circumstances for normally less than a month's time. Only the "best of the best" insulin lasts up to close to eighty days in the best of circumstances. This means once the power grid is out, probably for months or years straight, Type 1 Diabetes are going to definitely die within about a month's time. Unless if there are a number of them who happen to have operational generators with the proper maintenance and fuel to last for years or longer and manage to secure a vast amount of insulin all Type 1 Diabetics will die within about a month's time. Type 2 Diabetics on the other hand will have a chance to eat healthier depending on where they're surviving and being willing to eat healthy foodstuff. I could of sworn I heard of a plant in another GLP thread that is a natural form of insulin. If this is true this would be absolutely essential for Type 1 Diabetics to grow as much and often as possible during the later Christian Apocalypse Events. With type 1 diabetes, the pancreas can’t produce insulin. According to the ADA, 1.25 million Americans have this disorder. This is about 5 percent of all diagnosed cases. The ADA estimates that 40,000 people receive a type 1 diagnosis each year in the United States. Go to the doctor's office... and they'll have you very easily believing Diabetes itself is such an incredibly deadly problem all across the nation. I know Diabetes is a massive scam all within itself. That there's a vast industry built up around it which is directly why Diabetes seems to be so dang contagious... and once you contract Diabetes it's a permanent life condition. I strongly suspect it's these GMOs that are in dang near every food item in America that really causes Diabetes to even occur. Conspiracy Theorist is nothing more than a derogatory title used to dismiss a critical thinker. A time is coming when men will go mad, and when they see someone who is not mad, they will attack him, saying, 'You are mad; you are not like us." -- St. Anthony The Great Social Credit Loser here. |
| Riff-Raff DEFCON 4 User ID: 76340466 United States01/25/2019 05:52 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sometimes prepping can get into your head a little too much. Quoting: Mental Case Might cause you to start to panic. What I do if that happens, is go back to the basics. Your basic NEEDS are Shelter Water Fire Food (in that order). Everything else is a WANT...not a NEED. It helps me to center myself. Fire is not a basic need. Not saying it's not important, but not every situation requires fire to survive. The four basic needs regardless of the situation are: Food Water Shelter Security (to protect the other three) Not necessarily in that order. A lot of people will try to tell you there is a specific order for these items, but the order of importance is actually determined by the exact survival situation you are in. For instance, if you are stuck on a mountain with a winter storm moving in, shelter is imperative. You will die of exposure long before you die of thirst or hunger. However, in the desert, water is your top priority. Don't let yourself fall into the trap of thinking survival is about rigidly checking off step 1, step 2, step 3, etc. True survival requires you to be more flexible and adaptive than that. "Collapse is a process, not an event." - Unknown "It's in your nature to destroy yourselves." - Terminator 2 "Risking my life for people I hate for reasons I don't understand." - Riff-Raff Deputy Director - DEFCON Warning System |
| Timur2020 User ID: 72740871 United States01/25/2019 06:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Best 'prep' anyone can do is to conduct the necessary inner-work to make peace with one's inevitable physical death (regardless of how it comes, since it's coming)... Quoting: WOLF* After you. I think I will hang around awhile just to get as many of em as I can. "Science without religion is lame; religion without science is blind" Covid, fake riots, communist organizers - keep your powder dry America. This was not the disease or the riots, those both are still on down the line. Garden garden grow spices and medical plants too. I am a VeterAid volunteer for Arrogant Mushroom Healers of Alamogordo. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 74989921 United States01/25/2019 06:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I made a batch of hardtack last night, gluten free. the Bob's Red Mill 1 to1 flour has no fat in it, so it should last as long as regular white flour. It's the fats that make them go rancid after a while. Yes, they are inedible hockey pucks. But, softened in soup or coffee or fat, they'd be good. And they should last. I will see if gluten free flour lasts as long and report back! |
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| Meese User ID: 75046265 United States01/25/2019 06:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I apologise if this has been addressed already but I'd like to help if I can. My mom worked for GSK till about 2012, pretty high level "administrator " She's a boomer n isn't down w all my "crazy" ,"prepping" the end is near shit from me... that said, she has said multiple times that expiration dates r placed on really any/all items we consume to blindly encourage the idea-"shit it expired which =it is deemed yucky n no longer usually even implies it's rotten". According to her a marketing technique to replenish fresh, therefore more "new" products will b bought. Not that they r bad. What they determine as expired in reality lasts FOR YEARS BEYOND THE ROT DATE GIVEN TO U BY THOSE WHO NEED U TO BUY MORE...if it benefits their bottom line,it's safe to assume it's a lie. Cold storage of certain meds also. And if u r unable to accept that, bury ur cool storage deep enough in containers to maintain a certain temperature. This was well known in medical facilities when I was a nurse cooberating her statements. We left insulin , iv suspensions, OUT for shifts on end,days on end, w no danger to patients, warnings weren't even on the labels. Use ur instincts to the fullest please- if an old med doesn't pass the "sniff test" (usually a fishy type stank) it's safe to say it's (if anything) it has decreased in potency but not some form of " OMG I need new meds bc the date given on the bottle by the company (who benefits from my purchasing it ) This seems like common sense bc a third party has not likely evaluated these claims. Also to the person worried about hypothyroidism secondary to lack of iodine or a physical problem w absorption, i personally "cured" mine in about four months by taking a very cheap prenatal vitamin containing iodine. $4-$5 in Walmart lasted me over 6wks. When I questioned my MD about this her crazy answer was "u must hav had a virus not traditional hypothyroidism ". Whaa? I said "wow that's novel,sounds like bunk, I think I needed temporary support from a supplement ". She was not happy. Hope that helps n rings true or sensible considering we kno how trustworthy western medicine is in reality. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 74989921 United States01/25/2019 06:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Those fold up plastic rain ponchos. Quoting: Mental Case The cost about $2 and MAN O MAN do they come in handy when needed! It has saved 2 of my fishing trips! I can't imagine how handy it would come in during an emergency! They are tiny when folded up, weight an ounce or 2...I keep one in my truck, tackel box, and bug out bag. Yes! Those things are great. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 74909976 United States01/25/2019 06:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Those fold up plastic rain ponchos. Quoting: Mental Case The cost about $2 and MAN O MAN do they come in handy when needed! It has saved 2 of my fishing trips! I can't imagine how handy it would come in during an emergency! They are tiny when folded up, weight an ounce or 2...I keep one in my truck, tackel box, and bug out bag. Yes! Those things are great. You need a good rain jacket, check the thrift store in the summer if you are cheap like me. I also have a poncho in my pack that covers me and the pack at the same time. |
| In Yer Neck User ID: 72590658 United States01/25/2019 06:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I uploaded my PDF library. Quoting: Denholm In address bar just type pdf.shtf.network USA only, sorry I have to protect my computer Oh wow...thanks a bunch for taking the time. I have to wonder tho, this sort of collection would need selective hard copies wouldn't it? That's way too much info to memorize, if the files are not accessible. It's been swell, but the swellings gone down.- Tank girl "To hell with them fella's. Buzzards gotta eat, same as the worms." - Josey Wales. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 74909976 United States01/25/2019 06:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I uploaded my PDF library. Quoting: Denholm In address bar just type pdf.shtf.network USA only, sorry I have to protect my computer Oh wow...thanks a bunch for taking the time. I have to wonder tho, this sort of collection would need selective hard copies wouldn't it? That's way too much info to memorize, if the files are not accessible. ok again, I am poor but I did is save 120.00 for a dell mono lazer printer that prints both sides, 3 ring hole puncher, and make my books. [link to cdn3.techadvisor.co.uk (secure)] |
| In Yer Neck User ID: 72590658 United States01/25/2019 06:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I uploaded my PDF library. Quoting: Denholm In address bar just type pdf.shtf.network USA only, sorry I have to protect my computer Oh wow...thanks a bunch for taking the time. I have to wonder tho, this sort of collection would need selective hard copies wouldn't it? That's way too much info to memorize, if the files are not accessible. ok again, I am poor but I did is save 120.00 for a dell mono lazer printer that prints both sides, 3 ring hole puncher, and make my books. [link to cdn3.techadvisor.co.uk (secure)] Very good idea. Most of my references are in book form, which if I ever had to leave quickly would be impossible to take with me. But, I'm a bibliophile at heart, can't bring myself to get rid or them. It's been swell, but the swellings gone down.- Tank girl "To hell with them fella's. Buzzards gotta eat, same as the worms." - Josey Wales. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 74909976 United States01/25/2019 06:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I uploaded my PDF library. Quoting: Denholm In address bar just type pdf.shtf.network USA only, sorry I have to protect my computer Oh wow...thanks a bunch for taking the time. I have to wonder tho, this sort of collection would need selective hard copies wouldn't it? That's way too much info to memorize, if the files are not accessible. ok again, I am poor but I did is save 120.00 for a dell mono lazer printer that prints both sides, 3 ring hole puncher, and make my books. [link to cdn3.techadvisor.co.uk (secure)] Very good idea. Most of my references are in book form, which if I ever had to leave quickly would be impossible to take with me. But, I'm a bibliophile at heart, can't bring myself to get rid or them. ok this is one idea. if you get the OLD kindle with 3g (which is free), they are real energy efficient you would have to get ALL you books on that and you can take them all with you [link to www.amazon.com (secure)] Wi-Fi or Wi-Fi + Free Cellular Connectivity |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 74909976 United States01/25/2019 06:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | also get a Amazon.com: Rothco Canvas Medic Bag/No Imprint, Brown: Clothing [link to www.amazon.com (secure)] |
| Pooka (OP) User ID: 36721404 United States01/25/2019 06:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Those fold up plastic rain ponchos. Quoting: Mental Case The cost about $2 and MAN O MAN do they come in handy when needed! It has saved 2 of my fishing trips! I can't imagine how handy it would come in during an emergency! They are tiny when folded up, weight an ounce or 2...I keep one in my truck, tackel box, and bug out bag. So right - they take up no space yet are worth a trunkful when needed! Prayer is the most powerful force on earth. “I care not for a man's religion whose dog and cat are not the better for it.” Abraham Lincoln I sign all karma given. Would that those giving it to me followed suit. |
| Pooka (OP) User ID: 36721404 United States01/25/2019 06:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Continuation of another thread of wonderful people with the best ever ideas for practical prepping even for those with little money. Quoting: Pooka We'll also address the issues which may come up about "food stamps" and how to best manage without them, or with reduced amounts, or with partial box of food delivered with partial "food stamps". We address power outage, heating and cooking methods, first aid, we run disaster scenarios to see if we know what to do. This is probably the only prepping thread a person would need right now, whether long-time prepper here to share, or newbie prepper here to learn. Welcome!! Join us and learn and teach and enjoy!! This thread might be a good place for me to put down this idea, OP. While I was sitting on the toilet about ninety minutes ago as of this post I was reading through a Diabetes booklet I have. I was also thinking about the inevitable collapse of American society, and all of Humanity shortly after the collapse of America. I realized that insulin has a definite shelf life. I actually thought the stuff could remain in cold storage for decades and room temperature for months straight. Nope... turns out the stuff is only viable in the best of circumstances for normally less than a month's time. Only the "best of the best" insulin lasts up to close to eighty days in the best of circumstances. This means once the power grid is out, probably for months or years straight, Type 1 Diabetes are going to definitely die within about a month's time. Unless if there are a number of them who happen to have operational generators with the proper maintenance and fuel to last for years or longer and manage to secure a vast amount of insulin all Type 1 Diabetics will die within about a month's time. Type 2 Diabetics on the other hand will have a chance to eat healthier depending on where they're surviving and being willing to eat healthy foodstuff. I could of sworn I heard of a plant in another GLP thread that is a natural form of insulin. If this is true this would be absolutely essential for Type 1 Diabetics to grow as much and often as possible during the later Christian Apocalypse Events. With type 1 diabetes, the pancreas can’t produce insulin. According to the ADA, 1.25 million Americans have this disorder. This is about 5 percent of all diagnosed cases. The ADA estimates that 40,000 people receive a type 1 diagnosis each year in the United States. Stormy Nights, do you have suggestions as to how these people will get through TSHTF? We are looking for solutions. Prayer is the most powerful force on earth. “I care not for a man's religion whose dog and cat are not the better for it.” Abraham Lincoln I sign all karma given. Would that those giving it to me followed suit. |
| Pooka (OP) User ID: 36721404 United States01/25/2019 06:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Love gardening! Glad to know your weather is accommodating your preferences! Here, not for another couple months. Prayer is the most powerful force on earth. “I care not for a man's religion whose dog and cat are not the better for it.” Abraham Lincoln I sign all karma given. Would that those giving it to me followed suit. |
| Pooka (OP) User ID: 36721404 United States01/25/2019 06:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Also, if you don't have a yard, a bag of garden soil can be used to grow as well. Quoting: In Yer Neck Just cut slits in the top. What an amazing idea for those without gardening space! Thank you for this! People, take note - you can do this if you have no other gardening options - this will allow you to grow things you will be very grateful to have! Prayer is the most powerful force on earth. “I care not for a man's religion whose dog and cat are not the better for it.” Abraham Lincoln I sign all karma given. Would that those giving it to me followed suit. |
| Penny Peppers User ID: 45904129 United States01/25/2019 06:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Haven't seen it mentioned, but see if there are any military surplus stores in your area. The prices are usually pretty good, and they are just fun as heck to go browsing through. Also, don't forget yer P-38...I keep one in my wallet. Quoting: In Yer Neck Forgive my ignorance, but what is a P-38? :D There's never a dull moment here on planet earth, unless GLP ceased to exist... Oh, and Biden can't dress himself.... |
| Pooka (OP) User ID: 36721404 United States01/25/2019 06:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Continuation of another thread of wonderful people with the best ever ideas for practical prepping even for those with little money. Quoting: Pooka We'll also address the issues which may come up about "food stamps" and how to best manage without them, or with reduced amounts, or with partial box of food delivered with partial "food stamps". We address power outage, heating and cooking methods, first aid, we run disaster scenarios to see if we know what to do. This is probably the only prepping thread a person would need right now, whether long-time prepper here to share, or newbie prepper here to learn. Welcome!! Join us and learn and teach and enjoy!! This thread might be a good place for me to put down this idea, OP. While I was sitting on the toilet about ninety minutes ago as of this post I was reading through a Diabetes booklet I have. I was also thinking about the inevitable collapse of American society, and all of Humanity shortly after the collapse of America. I realized that insulin has a definite shelf life. I actually thought the stuff could remain in cold storage for decades and room temperature for months straight. Nope... turns out the stuff is only viable in the best of circumstances for normally less than a month's time. Only the "best of the best" insulin lasts up to close to eighty days in the best of circumstances. This means once the power grid is out, probably for months or years straight, Type 1 Diabetes are going to definitely die within about a month's time. Unless if there are a number of them who happen to have operational generators with the proper maintenance and fuel to last for years or longer and manage to secure a vast amount of insulin all Type 1 Diabetics will die within about a month's time. Type 2 Diabetics on the other hand will have a chance to eat healthier depending on where they're surviving and being willing to eat healthy foodstuff. I could of sworn I heard of a plant in another GLP thread that is a natural form of insulin. If this is true this would be absolutely essential for Type 1 Diabetics to grow as much and often as possible during the later Christian Apocalypse Events. With type 1 diabetes, the pancreas can’t produce insulin. According to the ADA, 1.25 million Americans have this disorder. This is about 5 percent of all diagnosed cases. The ADA estimates that 40,000 people receive a type 1 diagnosis each year in the United States. Go to the doctor's office... and they'll have you very easily believing Diabetes itself is such an incredibly deadly problem all across the nation. I know Diabetes is a massive scam all within itself. That there's a vast industry built up around it which is directly why Diabetes seems to be so dang contagious... and once you contract Diabetes it's a permanent life condition. I strongly suspect it's these GMOs that are in dang near every food item in America that really causes Diabetes to even occur. Let's try to stay with the thread subject, and provide helps instead of noting problems. The problems exist, we know, but here we are only into solutions. Prayer is the most powerful force on earth. “I care not for a man's religion whose dog and cat are not the better for it.” Abraham Lincoln I sign all karma given. Would that those giving it to me followed suit. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 74909976 United States01/25/2019 06:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Haven't seen it mentioned, but see if there are any military surplus stores in your area. The prices are usually pretty good, and they are just fun as heck to go browsing through. Also, don't forget yer P-38...I keep one in my wallet. Quoting: In Yer Neck Forgive my ignorance, but what is a P-38? :D can opener |
| Penny Peppers User ID: 45904129 United States01/25/2019 06:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Haven't seen it mentioned, but see if there are any military surplus stores in your area. The prices are usually pretty good, and they are just fun as heck to go browsing through. Also, don't forget yer P-38...I keep one in my wallet. Quoting: In Yer Neck For many years a P38 was the only can opener in my kitchen! Love those things! Hands won't quite work them properly any more, darn it! Kept one on my key chain for a long time. Had the slightly larger version that used to come in K-rats. Great idea about the surplus stores - they have very surprising things sometimes. Aah. Got it. Thanks Pooka! There's never a dull moment here on planet earth, unless GLP ceased to exist... Oh, and Biden can't dress himself.... |
| Penny Peppers User ID: 45904129 United States01/25/2019 06:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Haven't seen it mentioned, but see if there are any military surplus stores in your area. The prices are usually pretty good, and they are just fun as heck to go browsing through. Also, don't forget yer P-38...I keep one in my wallet. Quoting: In Yer Neck Forgive my ignorance, but what is a P-38? :D can opener  There's never a dull moment here on planet earth, unless GLP ceased to exist... Oh, and Biden can't dress himself.... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 74909976 United States01/25/2019 06:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Haven't seen it mentioned, but see if there are any military surplus stores in your area. The prices are usually pretty good, and they are just fun as heck to go browsing through. Also, don't forget yer P-38...I keep one in my wallet. Quoting: In Yer Neck Forgive my ignorance, but what is a P-38? :D can opener they are tricky picture [link to www.dansdata.com] |
| Pooka (OP) User ID: 36721404 United States01/25/2019 07:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes, it is, and probably more concerning today than any day prior. We have to watch so many directions for what might be coming at us - it will take all of us watching, I think. This thread is about prepping, especially for those with little money. At the same time, if somebody knows through their sources that something is coming at is, please post it. Be sure to be sure it really is coming, first, then let us know. Not many of us have "sources" so be kind to the rest of us, without getting all crazy with "possibilities". We know there are a lot of "possibilities" and we are watching. If you know of something, share, please. Otherwise, continue helping preppers prep. Thanks to all of you. Prayer is the most powerful force on earth. “I care not for a man's religion whose dog and cat are not the better for it.” Abraham Lincoln I sign all karma given. Would that those giving it to me followed suit. |
| Pooka (OP) User ID: 36721404 United States01/25/2019 07:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I made a batch of hardtack last night, gluten free. Quoting: Mother May I the Bob's Red Mill 1 to1 flour has no fat in it, so it should last as long as regular white flour. It's the fats that make them go rancid after a while. Yes, they are inedible hockey pucks. But, softened in soup or coffee or fat, they'd be good. And they should last. I will see if gluten free flour lasts as long and report back! Good for you for doing this! Now please eat one or more, and let us know how you like them in soup or tea or something. Prayer is the most powerful force on earth. “I care not for a man's religion whose dog and cat are not the better for it.” Abraham Lincoln I sign all karma given. Would that those giving it to me followed suit. |
