If Jesus Is God or Co-Equal to God Then Why...

there is nothing in the bible that states there were only 4 people on the earth at the time.

quite the contrary, actually.

Evil to him who perceives evil. Only the flesh can know evil. Therefore you're living in the flesh to condemn your brother in your heart.

People sure do some strange things to protect it.

I there is such a thing as a Satan he needs God's permission for everything as we see in the story of Job

I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

So you must acknowledge that God is light and dark yet none and both

All religions must be tolerated... for every man must get to heaven in his own way.

It clearly states Adam and Eve were the first.

Cain was the son of Adam and Eve.

This is elementary stuff here.

BINGO!

The problem of understanding stems from the word "GOD"
The word that is used as GOD is the hebrew word "ELOHIM"

ELOHIM is a plural word

so we take is by steps.. first to genesis

Genesis 1:26
And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness

If you go by the traditional understanding of the word GOD it doesnt make sense..the "let us" part , but if you use the original hebrew word ELOHIM it makes sense because elohim is a plural word

Genesis 1:26
And ELOHIM said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness

again you have to be careful with the word GOD in its english form.

Who we know as the CREATOR is Jesus the messiah

John 1

1 In the beginning was the Word(JESUS), and the Word (JESUS)was with God(ELOHIM), and the Word (JESUS)was God(ELOHIM).

2 The same (JESUS) was in the beginning with God (ELOHIM).

3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Everything that was created was created for JESUS CHRIST AND THROUGH JESUS CHRIST.

JESUS CHRIST IS WHAT WE WOULD CALL THE "CREATOR"
So Jesus christ is ELOHIM.
but Jesus christ is NOT THE FATHER , He is the second person in ELOHIM.

And that is why JESUS came down and died for us , because he loves his CREATION..

d'oh, wrong again.

God forms the light and the darkness, makes peace and creates "calamity" - not evil...

If God is a Spirit it is in all of us.

Jesus claimed to be God on two occasions......and the Jews picked up stones to stone Him for blasphemy.....but He walked through their midst. His time had not come yet.


Most people rejected Him when He was on earth.......and most continue to reject Him now.



He was in existence prior to humbling Himself....putting on flesh.....to go to the cross.


!st Coming.....suffering servant


2md Coming.....King. He will destroy the armies opposing Him with a Word from His mouth.

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add the time between christmas ans easter....


i actually read it somewhere a long time ago and am looking for it,but i believe the jewish religion also talks of it.

Depend on which translation you read your beloved King James version says evil

You listen to your heart and decide what love is just as this evil ole world tells you



Jer 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?

i am a seminary student. we use mechanical translations a lot

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This is truly confusing anyway you put it ,God is not a God of confusion this trinity doctrine is false any doctrine originally from God would not be discombobulating.

Now why are you opening pandoras box again? :)

OK so here's my opinion.

Jesus is the Son of God and so are all of us, Sons and Daughters of God.

All of us are of God, all things flow from God and their is nothing else but God.

So in a sense Jesus is God or a part of God and so are we!

Thats the part TPTB don't wan't us to Get, the oneness, the unity, they want us seperate from our divine nature. They don't want spiritually wide awake people walking around changing reality on them!

But that's just what is happening, everyone is waking up.

Frater

I'm a theologian and philosopher

The Kingdom is within

Because the "bible" you read is the version that was altered by Constantine. Go to www.reluctant-messenger.com to read unaltered original documents from all the major religions.
Thousands and thousands of pages for research.

"Jesus" wasn't his real name.
Mary (his mother) became a virgin 1600 years later when the Catholic church wanted virgins to marry. (Then they taught the little girls that if you are a virgin, then you may be the one chosen for the second birth of Jesus. l was Catholic and was taught this.)

Joseph was also visited by an "angel" and told to have sex with Mary before they were married.

The original "Christians" were known as the "Yahoos", and were 100% against "organized religion".

Interesting when you find out what was actually written.

All of us have the spirit of God in us

And you are without the Kingdom

ITS confusing because your seeking to understand the nature of GOD.. how he is made up. Noone can begin to imagine how GOD looks like or his being. The doctrine of trinity is like a way you would explain something to a child.

its confusing for him because he is a muslim and has been trained to believe otherwise.

Interesting that you skipped over this question like it wasn't even there.

Or is that a little too much LOGIC for ya?

Christ and the Father are made of the same spirit. Christ was given control over everything under creation.

To answer your question:

Christ can know the answer if he wishes but if he knew then he would tell us. He says this several times in the bible.

The Father does not want the enemy to know when this will happen so he keeps all this information to Himself.

I hope this helps.

(I only post, I do not reply)

skipped over which question?

You claim there were more than 4 people on the planet at that time.

How?

Classic signs of a false doctrine no one can know but a select few

God is not a God of confusion