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DO YOU HAVE A GUN IN YOUR HOUSE. MUST READ.

 
Desert Fox  (OP)

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I know ALOT of HEALTHY gun owners that NEVER go to doctors...how do 'they' figure this into their PROBING? All these new invasions are aimed at the HERD...too bad for them...you're gonna PAY for PLAYING! redface
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You are correct, the sheep don't even see it coming do they?
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Don't know about nurses but doctors are required to ask this questions now, filled out and sent to the 'home office' guess the task is passed on to the nurses.. it was in 0bama health care bill.

Amazing how fast Forward is.
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Don't know about nurses but doctors are required to ask this questions now, filled out and sent to the 'home office' guess the task is passed on to the nurses.. it was in 0bama health care bill.

Amazing how fast Forward is.
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Indeed, we gotta pass it to see whats in it. Remember?
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In the military you are trained with a rifle or pistol. There is no such thing as a gun. I would never own a gun, is therefore not a lie.
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In the military you are trained with a rifle or pistol. There is no such thing as a gun. I would never own a gun, is therefore not a lie.
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Yep, honesty is your best attribute Junky.
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My cousin sent me this e-mail.




Do you have a gun in the house?

THIS IS GOOD TO KNOW!

When I had my gangrene gallbladder taken out and spent 10 days in the hospital. I had home nurse visits for two weeks and was asked if I had guns in the house. I respond that if I did I would not tell them. So the below has some merit.

FYI, I am passing this along... there are comments from two other people that have also been asked if they keep guns in the house. The nurse just kinda slipped it in along with all the other regular questions. I told her I refused to answer because it was against the law to ask.

Everyone, whether you have guns or not, should give a neutral answer so they have no idea who does and who doesn't. My doctor asked me if I had guns in my house and also if any were loaded. I, of course, answered yes to both questions. Then he asked why I kept a loaded gun close to my bed. I answered that my son, who is a certified gun instructor and also works for Homeland Security, advised me that an unloaded, locked up gun is no protection against criminal attack.

The Government now requires these questions be asked of people on Medicare, and probably everyone else.

Just passing this along for your information: I had to visit a doctor other than my regular doctor when my doctor was on vacation.. One of the questions on the form I had to fill out was: Do you have any guns in your house?? My answer was None of your damn business!!

So it is out there! It is either an insurance issue or government intervention. Either way, it is out there and the second the government gets into your medical records (as they want to under Obamacare) it will become a major issue and will ultimately result in lock and load!!

Please pass this on to all the other retired guys and gun owners... Thanks, from a Vietnam Vet and retired Police Officer: I had a doctors appointment at the local VA clinic yesterday and found out something very interesting that I would like to pass along. While going through triage before seeing the doctor, I was asked at the end of the exam, three questions: 1. Did I feel stressed? 2. Did I feel threatened? 3. Did I feel like doing harm to someone?

The nurse then informed me that if I had answered yes to any of the questions I would have lost my concealed carry permit as it would have gone into my medical records and the VA would have reported it to Homeland Security.



Looks like they are going after the vets first. Other gun people like retired law enforcement will probably be next. Then when they go after the civilians, what argument will they have? Be forewarned and be aware. The Obama administration has gone on record as considering veterans and gun owners potential terrorists. Whether you are a gun owner, veteran or not, YOU'VE BEEN WARNED ! If you know veterans and gun owners, please pass this on to them. Be very cautious about what you say and to whom. They are coming for us, so unless you're an ostrich, do not stick your head in the sand......
 Quoting: Desert Fox


yup. Same old same old.

Nothing ever changes: everyone that doesnot drink says everyone that does drink is a drunk. Now itis guns.

These slanderous Commie Pinkos should be sued for defamation of character and charged with treason against The Constitution Of The United States Of America; have a yellow streak painted down their back, and the word "COWARD" stamped on their face.
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Got no gun, not allowed here, and not needed..


when you get into barsfights alott it teaches you about people, 70% of burglars are prey, not predators


not gonna go into this.
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My cousin sent me this e-mail.




Do you have a gun in the house?

THIS IS GOOD TO KNOW!

When I had my gangrene gallbladder taken out and spent 10 days in the hospital. I had home nurse visits for two weeks and was asked if I had guns in the house. I respond that if I did I would not tell them. So the below has some merit.

FYI, I am passing this along... there are comments from two other people that have also been asked if they keep guns in the house. The nurse just kinda slipped it in along with all the other regular questions. I told her I refused to answer because it was against the law to ask.

Everyone, whether you have guns or not, should give a neutral answer so they have no idea who does and who doesn't. My doctor asked me if I had guns in my house and also if any were loaded. I, of course, answered yes to both questions. Then he asked why I kept a loaded gun close to my bed. I answered that my son, who is a certified gun instructor and also works for Homeland Security, advised me that an unloaded, locked up gun is no protection against criminal attack.

The Government now requires these questions be asked of people on Medicare, and probably everyone else.

Just passing this along for your information: I had to visit a doctor other than my regular doctor when my doctor was on vacation.. One of the questions on the form I had to fill out was: Do you have any guns in your house?? My answer was None of your damn business!!

So it is out there! It is either an insurance issue or government intervention. Either way, it is out there and the second the government gets into your medical records (as they want to under Obamacare) it will become a major issue and will ultimately result in lock and load!!

Please pass this on to all the other retired guys and gun owners... Thanks, from a Vietnam Vet and retired Police Officer: I had a doctors appointment at the local VA clinic yesterday and found out something very interesting that I would like to pass along. While going through triage before seeing the doctor, I was asked at the end of the exam, three questions: 1. Did I feel stressed? 2. Did I feel threatened? 3. Did I feel like doing harm to someone?

The nurse then informed me that if I had answered yes to any of the questions I would have lost my concealed carry permit as it would have gone into my medical records and the VA would have reported it to Homeland Security.



Looks like they are going after the vets first. Other gun people like retired law enforcement will probably be next. Then when they go after the civilians, what argument will they have? Be forewarned and be aware. The Obama administration has gone on record as considering veterans and gun owners potential terrorists. Whether you are a gun owner, veteran or not, YOU'VE BEEN WARNED ! If you know veterans and gun owners, please pass this on to them. Be very cautious about what you say and to whom. They are coming for us, so unless you're an ostrich, do not stick your head in the sand......
 Quoting: Desert Fox


yup. Same old same old.

Nothing ever changes: everyone that doesnot drink says everyone that does drink is a drunk. Now itis guns.

These slanderous Commie Pinkos should be sued for defamation of character and charged with treason against The Constitution Of The United States Of America; have a yellow streak painted down their back, and the word "COWARD" stamped on their face.
 Quoting: SwanSong 31656575

ohyeah
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They also seperate children from parents and ask questions about safety


guns

if child feels safe in home


and so on


Happened to close relative with child in tow in er in boston



flying pig flu diagnosed and treated with tamiflu



very high fever and rash
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new intervention malarky



asking about guns


amd safety


and if they feel "safe" at their home...


seriously

of course asking about drugs,alcohol in home...


cigs etc.,.
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A few weeks ago my husband had to take me to the ER because I became very sick (influenza) while teaching class.

The ER nurse also asked questions about guns to which I replied, "no". I do not think it is anybody's business if I own firearms. She then went on to ask me if I was being threatened at home & if I could protect myself -- WTF???

I answered no on the threat question & on the one about defending myself I just gave her a goofy look -- I was still in my dobok & belt with 3 gold slashes emblazoned upon it -- duh!

I could have understood if I came in wearing street clothes with black eyes, broken nose, bruised ribs, etc., but the questions are very intrusive & it was obvious I had the FLU!
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


Asking about domestic abuse and guns might be part of a campaign to identify women at risk for domestic violence and offer them a "safe place" to declare certain things and get immediate protection. Some women are so terrified and brainwashed by their abusers that they believe the men have some kind of mind control over them. They need help in asking for help. An awful cycle.

Just a thought.
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Really?

no they could care less

it is about knowing if a gun is in the home

and when the thugs come around they will know which homes to target first
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Silence is an answer.

A hard cold stare doesn't imply an affirmative or negative. Answering the question is problematic based upon the ethos of the health care workers and their agenda.

They may be seeking information only neutrally to fulful a legal requirement. That doesn't mean it is constitutional, only that it currently is the law of the land and hasn't been judged as unconstiutional.

Answering, "It's none of your business." could evoke an emotional response and a comment that "the patient refused to answer the question."

If a health care worker supported the patient's rights to firearms, then they still might be trapped by such new rules. You could actually by answering give them information that they don't really want and ruin your chances at having a concealed carry permit.

If one is mentally altered, however such problematic language is defined, then one could lose your gun rights. It is capricious.

One could answer certain questions and giving an answer could suggest to certain liberal folks that the patient was a hard core defiant person who is not respecting authority and might be exhibiting sociopathic behavior. Not wisdom.

Silence is a valid answer. Chest-thumping doesn't help your case or cause.

One might answer in the negative based entirely upon your interpretation of such questions. You have the decision to analyze a question and determine the merit and the meaning and therefore might easily answer in the negative. Politicians squint at a gnat and swallow a camel all day and night long.

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A few weeks ago my husband had to take me to the ER because I became very sick (influenza) while teaching class.

The ER nurse also asked questions about guns to which I replied, "no". I do not think it is anybody's business if I own firearms. She then went on to ask me if I was being threatened at home & if I could protect myself -- WTF???

I answered no on the threat question & on the one about defending myself I just gave her a goofy look -- I was still in my dobok & belt with 3 gold slashes emblazoned upon it -- duh!

I could have understood if I came in wearing street clothes with black eyes, broken nose, bruised ribs, etc., but the questions are very intrusive & it was obvious I had the FLU!
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


Asking about domestic abuse and guns might be part of a campaign to identify women at risk for domestic violence and offer them a "safe place" to declare certain things and get immediate protection. Some women are so terrified and brainwashed by their abusers that they believe the men have some kind of mind control over them. They need help in asking for help. An awful cycle.

Just a thought.
 Quoting: Spine monkey


Really?

no they could care less

it is about knowing if a gun is in the home

and when the thugs come around they will know which homes to target first
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Precisely.
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Silence is an answer.

A hard cold stare doesn't imply an affirmative or negative. Answering the question is problematic based upon the ethos of the health care workers and their agenda.

They may be seeking information only neutrally to fulful a legal requirement. That doesn't mean it is constitutional, only that it currently is the law of the land and hasn't been judged as unconstiutional.

Answering, "It's none of your business." could evoke an emotional response and a comment that "the patient refused to answer the question."

If a health care worker supported the patient's rights to firearms, then they still might be trapped by such new rules. You could actually by answering give them information that they don't really want and ruin your chances at having a concealed carry permit.

If one is mentally altered, however such problematic language is defined, then one could lose your gun rights. It is capricious.

One could answer certain questions and giving an answer could suggest to certain liberal folks that the patient was a hard core defiant person who is not respecting authority and might be exhibiting sociopathic behavior. Not wisdom.

Silence is a valid answer. Chest-thumping doesn't help your case or cause.
 Quoting: Don'tBeAfraid


I agree, they are only doing what they are told, but doesn't require an answer.
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Silence is an answer.

A hard cold stare doesn't imply an affirmative or negative. Answering the question is problematic based upon the ethos of the health care workers and their agenda.

They may be seeking information only neutrally to fulful a legal requirement. That doesn't mean it is constitutional, only that it currently is the law of the land and hasn't been judged as unconstiutional.

Answering, "It's none of your business." could evoke an emotional response and a comment that "the patient refused to answer the question."

If a health care worker supported the patient's rights to firearms, then they still might be trapped by such new rules. You could actually by answering give them information that they don't really want and ruin your chances at having a concealed carry permit.

If one is mentally altered, however such problematic language is defined, then one could lose your gun rights. It is capricious.

One could answer certain questions and giving an answer could suggest to certain liberal folks that the patient was a hard core defiant person who is not respecting authority and might be exhibiting sociopathic behavior. Not wisdom.

Silence is a valid answer. Chest-thumping doesn't help your case or cause.
 Quoting: Don'tBeAfraid


I agree, they are only doing what they are told, but doesn't require an answer.
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Yep.

I added:
One might answer in the negative based entirely upon your interpretation of such questions. You have the decision to analyze a question and determine the merit and the meaning and therefore might easily answer in the negative. Politicians squint at a gnat and swallow a camel all day and night long.
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They'll take the guns..

look they claim the Constitution is a simple straight forth document.. I beg (not brag) to differ...Cause I'm still not clear on what a 'natural born citizen' is..and doubt any one else does either.. and it was never who is a citizen or not, it was about who could/should legally be aloud to hold office of president of this country.

And the other night it hit me..Cause they (founding fathers) threw in these words :regulated Militia/free State = right of the people all under one blanket Amendment it can very well be claimed to be interpreted as to 'mean' that a state=people keeps a local police/national guard... so forth an so on.. the right of the people to 'bear arms' has/is already covered! Makes me sick.. but understand it all depends on who interpreting it..

One people's Antichrist is another people's savior~!



2nd Amendment

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

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wtf
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WTF indeed. They have been asking if we wear seat belts for years and that pissed me off, now this. These people are definitely out of control and gone beyond the limits we should except.
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that's why you don't tell them it is none of their business. you still make the list
Give them a warm and fuzzy answer.
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Are you serious with that "list"? Because if you own a registered gun you are already on the "list", so no, don't give them a fuzzy answer, because this is what they are trying to achieve, total intrusiveness with no resistance from the BLEATING masses.......

sameboatsheep

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"Knowing me, I'd have to say "home? What about the one in my pocket?" Brief

I am like the other poster.. normally I don't like Brief but he is scoring some pretty good points today I must say..
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My house is my temple which is my body.

When asked;

Do you have any guns in your home ?

I would say NO

I do not have any guns inside my temple/home body.

Therefore, I would NOT be lying.


There are no guns inside my home.
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They'll take the guns..

look they claim the Constitution is a simple straight forth document.. I beg (not brag) to differ...Cause I'm still not clear on what a 'natural born citizen' is..and doubt any one else does either.. and it was never who is a citizen or not, it was about who could/should legally be aloud to hold office of president of this country.

And the other night it hit me..Cause they (founding fathers) threw in these words :regulated Militia/free State = right of the people all under one blanket Amendment it can very well be claimed to be interpreted as to 'mean' that a state=people keeps a local police/national guard... so forth an so on.. the right of the people to 'bear arms' has/is already covered! Makes me sick.. but understand it all depends on who interpreting it..

One people's Antichrist is another people's savior~!



2nd Amendment

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
 Quoting: ceawaves

Pretty simple isn't it?
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wtf
 Quoting: Oyster


WTF indeed. They have been asking if we wear seat belts for years and that pissed me off, now this. These people are definitely out of control and gone beyond the limits we should except.
 Quoting: Desert Fox


that's why you don't tell them it is none of their business. you still make the list
Give them a warm and fuzzy answer.
 Quoting: Kirk


Are you serious with that "list"? Because if you own a registered gun you are already on the "list", so no, don't give them a fuzzy answer, because this is what they are trying to achieve, total intrusiveness with no resistance from the BLEATING masses.......

sameboatsheep
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BINGO!!
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They'll take the guns..

look they claim the Constitution is a simple straight forth document.. I beg (not brag) to differ...Cause I'm still not clear on what a 'natural born citizen' is..and doubt any one else does either.. and it was never who is a citizen or not, it was about who could/should legally be aloud to hold office of president of this country.

And the other night it hit me..Cause they (founding fathers) threw in these words :regulated Militia/free State = right of the people all under one blanket Amendment it can very well be claimed to be interpreted as to 'mean' that a state=people keeps a local police/national guard... so forth an so on.. the right of the people to 'bear arms' has/is already covered! Makes me sick.. but understand it all depends on who interpreting it..

One people's Antichrist is another people's savior~!



2nd Amendment

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
 Quoting: ceawaves

Pretty simple isn't it?
 Quoting: Desert Fox


Scary SIMPLE!!!! simple minds.. slave minds.. who can't/don't know truth..

TWO things i remember that have stayed with me from way way back when i was in school a certain teacher told us (teaching economics/government) the class back then people had to hunt for their food..That's why that was put in Constitution, didn't think anything about it then.. But some how struck me (almost like a life event it hit a core of something) and this other thing she told us.. .. later on in as i recalled her telling us this/thought people had already been past the hunter+gather stage.. so that was not the reason.. Second thing she also told the class: how the country could vote it's self into Communism if people wanted to.. believe she and hubby went on to the state level. She still around somewhere.

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"Knowing me, I'd have to say "home? What about the one in my pocket?" Brief

I am like the other poster.. normally I don't like Brief but he is scoring some pretty good points today I must say..
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One has to know Brief.
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My house is my temple which is my body.

When asked;

Do you have any guns in your home ?

I would say NO

I do not have any guns inside my temple/home body.

Therefore, I would NOT be lying.


There are no guns inside my home.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31503468


Yes. This is precisely my point. It is each person's right and the questioners expects you to interpret the question and then answer. All they want is an answer. Some, perhaps most, would prefer a truthful answer.

The times they want a truthful answer is to discern the validity of the patient's interpretation of their health habits. Because patients have a high trust level for health care workers, particularly physicians, then one could abuse their trust of such questioning and released such details.

One might argue, but probably pointlessly, that such questions infringe upon HIPAA privacy legislation and therefore while can be asked, since it is released to others, might be an infringment of your privacy that is guaranteed by the Law.

Example: a celebrity (however you define it) is hospitalized and details are leaked to the press. It is a clear violation of HIPAA as that protects their privacy. Some will argue that public figures are not protected versus the "people right to know". Since you might become a celebrity in an infamous way as well if ostracized by the journalists, then they could release your health information in an article or publish your gun ownership.

Medically speaking such questions help isolate issues to determine in a troubleshooting manner, much like a mechanic to provide treatment and suggestions. However, an insurance person is seeking information to determine risk for statistics (acutary science or biostatistics or both) to determine altering the cost of such insurance. Since we have managed care, the insurance companies are in charge of paying medical workers, not you as a payer.

Because most people don't pay with cash, the insurance company has the political clout to determine health care.

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My house is my temple which is my body.

When asked;

Do you have any guns in your home ?

I would say NO

I do not have any guns inside my temple/home body.

Therefore, I would NOT be lying.


There are no guns inside my home.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31503468


Yes. This is precisely my point. It is each person's right and the questioners expects you to interpret the question and then answer. All they want is an answer. Some, perhaps most, would prefer a truthful answer.

The times they want a truthful answer is to discern the validity of the patient's interpretation of their health habits. Because patients have a high trust level for health care workers, particularly physicians, then one could abuse their trust of such questioning and released such details.

One might argue, but probably pointlessly, that such questions infringe upon HIPAA privacy legislation and therefore while can be asked, since it is released to others, might be an infringment of your privacy that is guaranteed by the Law.

Medically speaking such questions help isolate issues to determine in a troubleshooting manner, much like a mechanic to provide treatment and suggestions. However, an insurance person is seeking information to determine risk for statistics (acutary science or biostatistics or both) to determine altering the cost of such insurance. Since we have managed care, the insurance companies are in charge of paying medical workers, not you as a payer.

Because most people don't pay with cash, the insurance company has the political clout to determine health care.
 Quoting: Don'tBeAfraid


HIPPA was only put in place to protect the wealthy ; connected of society.

It doesn't really protect you if you are just one of the working slaves.
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unless you are being treated for injury you have no need to be in a doctor's office or a hospital
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Re: DO YOU HAVE A GUN IN YOUR HOUSE. MUST READ.
My house is my temple which is my body.

When asked;

Do you have any guns in your home ?

I would say NO

I do not have any guns inside my temple/home body.

Therefore, I would NOT be lying.


There are no guns inside my home.
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Yes. This is precisely my point. It is each person's right and the questioners expects you to interpret the question and then answer. All they want is an answer. Some, perhaps most, would prefer a truthful answer.

The times they want a truthful answer is to discern the validity of the patient's interpretation of their health habits. Because patients have a high trust level for health care workers, particularly physicians, then one could abuse their trust of such questioning and released such details.

One might argue, but probably pointlessly, that such questions infringe upon HIPAA privacy legislation and therefore while can be asked, since it is released to others, might be an infringment of your privacy that is guaranteed by the Law.

Medically speaking such questions help isolate issues to determine in a troubleshooting manner, much like a mechanic to provide treatment and suggestions. However, an insurance person is seeking information to determine risk for statistics (acutary science or biostatistics or both) to determine altering the cost of such insurance. Since we have managed care, the insurance companies are in charge of paying medical workers, not you as a payer.

Because most people don't pay with cash, the insurance company has the political clout to determine health care.
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Yes, most people trust their doctor and in turn will answer questions that otherwise they would never divulge. I find it very sad that our doctors are being used in such manner. As for the insurance companys again you are correct, they are paying the practice or facility, therefore beholding to the federal government, not patients.
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Re: DO YOU HAVE A GUN IN YOUR HOUSE. MUST READ.
Seriously? WTF? This is really getting crazy.

Medical personnel asking if there are guns in the house? I could MAYBE understand a 911 operator asking that question before they dispatched an ambulance but at a routine medical check up or ER visit?

I don't have guns but if I did I would certainly say "NO" with a straight and ernest face.
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Re: DO YOU HAVE A GUN IN YOUR HOUSE. MUST READ.
unless you are being treated for injury you have no need to be in a doctor's office or a hospital
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Really now. When a child is screaming with an ear ache, ect. what do you do, take them to an auto mechanic?
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Re: DO YOU HAVE A GUN IN YOUR HOUSE. MUST READ.
Seriously? WTF? This is really getting crazy.

Medical personnel asking if there are guns in the house? I could MAYBE understand a 911 operator asking that question before they dispatched an ambulance but at a routine medical check up or ER visit?

I don't have guns but if I did I would certainly say "NO" with a straight and ernest face.
 Quoting: ITZALLLIES

Seriously.
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