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Counterfeit Christianity. Christian TV Evangelists who have joined Illuminati ranks Then & Now. Look close and pay attention.

 
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I was caught up in all that years back - and got my butt kicked so bad that it almost cost me my salvation.

It's not because I didn't love the Lord - I loved him with all my heart - mostly because I was naive and far too trusting.

Few years later - here come the "internet" prophets (some which have even posted on this sight!)

Most of the IPs (internet prophets) are truly wolves, hiding behind a computer screen, calling themselves "Holy" but are, in fact practicing witchcraft, divination, obeah and other such abominations - worse yet, because of their practices and horrifying rituals, etc, have gotten a good deal of (demonic) power - which only propagates the deception more - and now have a huge audience that they can advertise themselves as "special."

I have learned (the hard way) that those who practice voodoo and obeah (voodoo on steroids) really believe that they can do this and STILL be a follower of Christ? Clearly under extreme demonic deception - and almost impossible for them to get out from under - very much like the prosperity teachers before them.

The reason I can say this is because some years back - (still reeling under the blow from the prosperity teachers) I now found myself a little too close to one of those IPs - got my butt kicked AGAIN.

Although I thank the Lord for hard lessons learned? It has been exceedingly painful and expensive journey.

I can even admit it now - even though I thought I was "strong in the Lord" I was, in reality, a sheep - easily led to the slaughter. Today, I thank the Lord that He truly is the Good Shepherd - and did in fact come after me.

These days - scarred but not charred, lol - I am no longer so easily deceived.

I have several friends that are still caught up in the prosperity movement - and although they really do profess a love for Christ, REFUSE to see beyond what is coming from those pulpits. It is quite concerning to me - but because of what I have been through, am able to be patient with them, interceding for them that the Lord give them "eyes to see, ears to hear."

Thank you for the great post, Salt (as usual) - and five stars to you.

HUGS
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wow... just wow!
hf
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I was caught up in all that years back - and got my butt kicked so bad that it almost cost me my salvation.

It's not because I didn't love the Lord - I loved him with all my heart - mostly because I was naive and far too trusting.

Few years later - here come the "internet" prophets (some which have even posted on this sight!)

Most of the IPs (internet prophets) are truly wolves, hiding behind a computer screen, calling themselves "Holy" but are, in fact practicing witchcraft, divination, obeah and other such abominations - worse yet, because of their practices and horrifying rituals, etc, have gotten a good deal of (demonic) power - which only propagates the deception more - and now have a huge audience that they can advertise themselves as "special."

I have learned (the hard way) that those who practice voodoo and obeah (voodoo on steroids) really believe that they can do this and STILL be a follower of Christ? Clearly under extreme demonic deception - and almost impossible for them to get out from under - very much like the prosperity teachers before them.

The reason I can say this is because some years back - (still reeling under the blow from the prosperity teachers) I now found myself a little too close to one of those IPs - got my butt kicked AGAIN.

Although I thank the Lord for hard lessons learned? It has been exceedingly painful and expensive journey.

I can even admit it now - even though I thought I was "strong in the Lord" I was, in reality, a sheep - easily led to the slaughter. Today, I thank the Lord that He truly is the Good Shepherd - and did in fact come after me.

These days - scarred but not charred, lol - I am no longer so easily deceived.

I have several friends that are still caught up in the prosperity movement - and although they really do profess a love for Christ, REFUSE to see beyond what is coming from those pulpits. It is quite concerning to me - but because of what I have been through, am able to be patient with them, interceding for them that the Lord give them "eyes to see, ears to hear."

Thank you for the great post, Salt (as usual) - and five stars to you.

HUGS
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wow... just wow!
hf
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Obeah? Never heard of that one!
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My grandfather was a Mason. In 1967 we changed churches from Presbyterian to Baptist. I found out later in life why - the Masons are the ones that started the whole 'Moral Majority'. All controlled opposition. Fallwell, all of them.
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oh, yeah, same...we have so much in common, rev...not just the aina...hope to get ova' bum bye to da kine...talk story some day on Kauai....I thank God everyday that I escaped. I personally know Christ as my savior and the Word is true...just sooooo corrupted in the mainstream. I am grateful for the freedom of speech to say this.

always enjoy your comments on this forum

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Anyone know about pastor Richard Goff of Newswatch Magazine?
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I was caught up in all that years back - and got my butt kicked so bad that it almost cost me my salvation.

It's not because I didn't love the Lord - I loved him with all my heart - mostly because I was naive and far too trusting.

Few years later - here come the "internet" prophets (some which have even posted on this sight!)

Most of the IPs (internet prophets) are truly wolves, hiding behind a computer screen, calling themselves "Holy" but are, in fact practicing witchcraft, divination, obeah and other such abominations - worse yet, because of their practices and horrifying rituals, etc, have gotten a good deal of (demonic) power - which only propagates the deception more - and now have a huge audience that they can advertise themselves as "special."

I have learned (the hard way) that those who practice voodoo and obeah (voodoo on steroids) really believe that they can do this and STILL be a follower of Christ? Clearly under extreme demonic deception - and almost impossible for them to get out from under - very much like the prosperity teachers before them.

The reason I can say this is because some years back - (still reeling under the blow from the prosperity teachers) I now found myself a little too close to one of those IPs - got my butt kicked AGAIN.

Although I thank the Lord for hard lessons learned? It has been exceedingly painful and expensive journey.

I can even admit it now - even though I thought I was "strong in the Lord" I was, in reality, a sheep - easily led to the slaughter. Today, I thank the Lord that He truly is the Good Shepherd - and did in fact come after me.

These days - scarred but not charred, lol - I am no longer so easily deceived.

I have several friends that are still caught up in the prosperity movement - and although they really do profess a love for Christ, REFUSE to see beyond what is coming from those pulpits. It is quite concerning to me - but because of what I have been through, am able to be patient with them, interceding for them that the Lord give them "eyes to see, ears to hear."

Thank you for the great post, Salt (as usual) - and five stars to you.

HUGS
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wow... just wow!
hf
 Quoting: Salt


this could be my story exactly. thank you for posting and I witness to it and you know what the Word says about a word going out twice. May the Spirit of Truth (John 4:24) cause many to be set free from your post.

agreed?

my story...oh so painful can't even write it..some safety issues involved as well....I love God but there are leaders in churches involved in despicable dark things just to get power.

truth is coming out more every day.

Salt, thank you for this thread
I have been praying for several years that the truth will come out.
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Anyone know about pastor Richard Goff of Newswatch Magazine?
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apparently, they've been infiltrated by NWO illuminatists

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what is a way to live considering everything is upside down? I want some views and takes on the problems and coping as well as living and being a sense of knowing- I struggle with a lot of issues and how Jesus really wanted usx to be-I just would like your input SAlt and others. Thanks. Do we feel guilty all the time? Do we just walk in faith?
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what is a way to live considering everything is upside down? I want some views and takes on the problems and coping as well as living and being a sense of knowing- I struggle with a lot of issues and how Jesus really wanted usx to be-I just would like your input SAlt and others. Thanks. Do we feel guilty all the time? Do we just walk in faith?
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read my sig line
then read the gospels and the apostolic books and epistles in the new testament.

everything you need to know about living the Christian life is in those books.
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I was caught up in all that years back - and got my butt kicked so bad that it almost cost me my salvation.

It's not because I didn't love the Lord - I loved him with all my heart - mostly because I was naive and far too trusting.

Few years later - here come the "internet" prophets (some which have even posted on this sight!)

Most of the IPs (internet prophets) are truly wolves, hiding behind a computer screen, calling themselves "Holy" but are, in fact practicing witchcraft, divination, obeah and other such abominations - worse yet, because of their practices and horrifying rituals, etc, have gotten a good deal of (demonic) power - which only propagates the deception more - and now have a huge audience that they can advertise themselves as "special."

I have learned (the hard way) that those who practice voodoo and obeah (voodoo on steroids) really believe that they can do this and STILL be a follower of Christ? Clearly under extreme demonic deception - and almost impossible for them to get out from under - very much like the prosperity teachers before them.

The reason I can say this is because some years back - (still reeling under the blow from the prosperity teachers) I now found myself a little too close to one of those IPs - got my butt kicked AGAIN.

Although I thank the Lord for hard lessons learned? It has been exceedingly painful and expensive journey.

I can even admit it now - even though I thought I was "strong in the Lord" I was, in reality, a sheep - easily led to the slaughter. Today, I thank the Lord that He truly is the Good Shepherd - and did in fact come after me.

These days - scarred but not charred, lol - I am no longer so easily deceived.

I have several friends that are still caught up in the prosperity movement - and although they really do profess a love for Christ, REFUSE to see beyond what is coming from those pulpits. It is quite concerning to me - but because of what I have been through, am able to be patient with them, interceding for them that the Lord give them "eyes to see, ears to hear."

Thank you for the great post, Salt (as usual) - and five stars to you.

HUGS
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wow... just wow!
hf
 Quoting: Salt


this could be my story exactly. thank you for posting and I witness to it and you know what the Word says about a word going out twice. May the Spirit of Truth (John 4:24) cause many to be set free from your post.

agreed?

my story...oh so painful can't even write it..some safety issues involved as well....I love God but there are leaders in churches involved in despicable dark things just to get power.

truth is coming out more every day.

Salt, thank you for this thread
I have been praying for several years that the truth will come out.
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It will come out once and for all that I am sure of. God will expose these wolves for what they are.

For nothing is secret, that shall not be made manifest; neither any thing hid, that shall not be known and come abroad.

I am curious about this prosperity movement spoken of I remember about 13 years ago when I first started studying apologetics one of the bigger enemy's was the word of faith movement that study is what initially turned the tables for me on what John Haggee was teaching. Is this a similar movement?
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what is a way to live considering everything is upside down? I want some views and takes on the problems and coping as well as living and being a sense of knowing- I struggle with a lot of issues and how Jesus really wanted usx to be-I just would like your input SAlt and others. Thanks. Do we feel guilty all the time? Do we just walk in faith?
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read my sig line
then read the gospels and the apostolic books and epistles in the new testament.

everything you need to know about living the Christian life is in those books.
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most importantly, keep yourself disconnected from the world system and your eyes totally fixed on God.
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I was caught up in all that years back - and got my butt kicked so bad that it almost cost me my salvation.

It's not because I didn't love the Lord - I loved him with all my heart - mostly because I was naive and far too trusting.

Few years later - here come the "internet" prophets (some which have even posted on this sight!)

Most of the IPs (internet prophets) are truly wolves, hiding behind a computer screen, calling themselves "Holy" but are, in fact practicing witchcraft, divination, obeah and other such abominations - worse yet, because of their practices and horrifying rituals, etc, have gotten a good deal of (demonic) power - which only propagates the deception more - and now have a huge audience that they can advertise themselves as "special."

I have learned (the hard way) that those who practice voodoo and obeah (voodoo on steroids) really believe that they can do this and STILL be a follower of Christ? Clearly under extreme demonic deception - and almost impossible for them to get out from under - very much like the prosperity teachers before them.

The reason I can say this is because some years back - (still reeling under the blow from the prosperity teachers) I now found myself a little too close to one of those IPs - got my butt kicked AGAIN.

Although I thank the Lord for hard lessons learned? It has been exceedingly painful and expensive journey.

I can even admit it now - even though I thought I was "strong in the Lord" I was, in reality, a sheep - easily led to the slaughter. Today, I thank the Lord that He truly is the Good Shepherd - and did in fact come after me.

These days - scarred but not charred, lol - I am no longer so easily deceived.

I have several friends that are still caught up in the prosperity movement - and although they really do profess a love for Christ, REFUSE to see beyond what is coming from those pulpits. It is quite concerning to me - but because of what I have been through, am able to be patient with them, interceding for them that the Lord give them "eyes to see, ears to hear."

Thank you for the great post, Salt (as usual) - and five stars to you.

HUGS
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There is nothing wrong with prosperity; and there are some great living believers who are very wealthy. It's your perception of wealth, and what you do to achieve it.

What demonizes this process is making it the most important part of your life. A god if you will.

We have people like Oprah, Proctor, and still others who pushed the secret video's, and Tony Robbins as well, though I see him as more a positive thinker and motivational teacher.

People with great wealth have a big responsibility to those in need, so its up to them which path they take. So yes, great wealth can both harm or build.
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what is a way to live considering everything is upside down? I want some views and takes on the problems and coping as well as living and being a sense of knowing- I struggle with a lot of issues and how Jesus really wanted usx to be-I just would like your input SAlt and others. Thanks. Do we feel guilty all the time? Do we just walk in faith?
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If I had to advise you for anything concerning the benefits of discernment it would be to look for love. If you dont see it chances are its not from God especially considering teaching. A way to live your life-love. The gospel is very, very simplistic at its core. There will be times you walk in faith and others where you get reassurance how much is not Dependant on anything really because its a personal thing. The stronger you are the less reassurance you will require. Just keep in mind that it only takes seconds and he can flip your world upside down in a way that reassurance is never needed again and faith becomes a knowing.
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There will be many false prophets

preaching in the name of Jesus

they will be disowned

for their deeds at not consistent with the Word

Obey the Lord

do not become a teacher of the Word

unless you act accordingly
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There will be many false prophets

preaching in the name of Jesus

they will be disowned

for their deeds at not consistent with the Word

Obey the Lord

do not become a teacher of the Word

unless you act accordingly
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hf
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what is a way to live considering everything is upside down? I want some views and takes on the problems and coping as well as living and being a sense of knowing- I struggle with a lot of issues and how Jesus really wanted usx to be-I just would like your input SAlt and others. Thanks. Do we feel guilty all the time? Do we just walk in faith?
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If I had to advise you for anything concerning the benefits of discernment it would be to look for love. If you dont see it chances are its not from God especially considering teaching. A way to live your life-love. The gospel is very, very simplistic at its core. There will be times you walk in faith and others where you get reassurance how much is not Dependant on anything really because its a personal thing. The stronger you are the less reassurance you will require. Just keep in mind that it only takes seconds and he can flip your world upside down in a way that reassurance is never needed again and faith becomes a knowing.
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Absolutely!
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what is a way to live considering everything is upside down? I want some views and takes on the problems and coping as well as living and being a sense of knowing- I struggle with a lot of issues and how Jesus really wanted usx to be-I just would like your input SAlt and others. Thanks. Do we feel guilty all the time? Do we just walk in faith?
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read my sig line
then read the gospels and the apostolic books and epistles in the new testament.

everything you need to know about living the Christian life is in those books.
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Thank you again I will definitely ck. it all out -this is a good thread and some good info-!!
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We can endlessly point fingers at others or work on making ourselves better as instructed

It's hard to do both
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what is a way to live considering everything is upside down? I want some views and takes on the problems and coping as well as living and being a sense of knowing- I struggle with a lot of issues and how Jesus really wanted usx to be-I just would like your input SAlt and others. Thanks. Do we feel guilty all the time? Do we just walk in faith?
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If I had to advise you for anything concerning the benefits of discernment it would be to look for love. If you dont see it chances are its not from God especially considering teaching. A way to live your life-love. The gospel is very, very simplistic at its core. There will be times you walk in faith and others where you get reassurance how much is not Dependant on anything really because its a personal thing. The stronger you are the less reassurance you will require. Just keep in mind that it only takes seconds and he can flip your world upside down in a way that reassurance is never needed again and faith becomes a knowing.
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Thank you for the input.
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I was caught up in all that years back - and got my butt kicked so bad that it almost cost me my salvation.

It's not because I didn't love the Lord - I loved him with all my heart - mostly because I was naive and far too trusting.

Few years later - here come the "internet" prophets (some which have even posted on this sight!)

Most of the IPs (internet prophets) are truly wolves, hiding behind a computer screen, calling themselves "Holy" but are, in fact practicing witchcraft, divination, obeah and other such abominations - worse yet, because of their practices and horrifying rituals, etc, have gotten a good deal of (demonic) power - which only propagates the deception more - and now have a huge audience that they can advertise themselves as "special."

I have learned (the hard way) that those who practice voodoo and obeah (voodoo on steroids) really believe that they can do this and STILL be a follower of Christ? Clearly under extreme demonic deception - and almost impossible for them to get out from under - very much like the prosperity teachers before them.

The reason I can say this is because some years back - (still reeling under the blow from the prosperity teachers) I now found myself a little too close to one of those IPs - got my butt kicked AGAIN.

Although I thank the Lord for hard lessons learned? It has been exceedingly painful and expensive journey.

I can even admit it now - even though I thought I was "strong in the Lord" I was, in reality, a sheep - easily led to the slaughter. Today, I thank the Lord that He truly is the Good Shepherd - and did in fact come after me.

These days - scarred but not charred, lol - I am no longer so easily deceived.

I have several friends that are still caught up in the prosperity movement - and although they really do profess a love for Christ, REFUSE to see beyond what is coming from those pulpits. It is quite concerning to me - but because of what I have been through, am able to be patient with them, interceding for them that the Lord give them "eyes to see, ears to hear."

Thank you for the great post, Salt (as usual) - and five stars to you.

HUGS
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wow... just wow!
hf
 Quoting: Salt

Obeah? Never heard of that one!
 Quoting: bigD111


Obeah is a ancient African sorcery, dating back to Egypt. Similar to voodoo, and very powerful.

It is also an abomination before the Lord God.

If you remember, when Moses confronted the Pharaoh? The court "magicians" were able to do the first three plagues - this was done through Obeah.

Balaam (in the OT) was most likely, an ancient Obeah man.
Interestingly - God took what Balaam was on his way to do (send curses down on HIS people) so seriously? That He sent an angel to kill him.

I didn't know anything about it either - until it attacked me and my family. It was the Holy Spirit revealed to me exactly WHAT was going on, and who was sending it.

Obeah is real - without getting into the gory details - it really has been a nightmare. That said - in the name of Jesus Christ, I'm walking in victory over every bit of it - Luke 10:19.
hf
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I was caught up in all that years back - and got my butt kicked so bad that it almost cost me my salvation.

It's not because I didn't love the Lord - I loved him with all my heart - mostly because I was naive and far too trusting.

Few years later - here come the "internet" prophets (some which have even posted on this sight!)

Most of the IPs (internet prophets) are truly wolves, hiding behind a computer screen, calling themselves "Holy" but are, in fact practicing witchcraft, divination, obeah and other such abominations - worse yet, because of their practices and horrifying rituals, etc, have gotten a good deal of (demonic) power - which only propagates the deception more - and now have a huge audience that they can advertise themselves as "special."

I have learned (the hard way) that those who practice voodoo and obeah (voodoo on steroids) really believe that they can do this and STILL be a follower of Christ? Clearly under extreme demonic deception - and almost impossible for them to get out from under - very much like the prosperity teachers before them.

The reason I can say this is because some years back - (still reeling under the blow from the prosperity teachers) I now found myself a little too close to one of those IPs - got my butt kicked AGAIN.

Although I thank the Lord for hard lessons learned? It has been exceedingly painful and expensive journey.

I can even admit it now - even though I thought I was "strong in the Lord" I was, in reality, a sheep - easily led to the slaughter. Today, I thank the Lord that He truly is the Good Shepherd - and did in fact come after me.

These days - scarred but not charred, lol - I am no longer so easily deceived.

I have several friends that are still caught up in the prosperity movement - and although they really do profess a love for Christ, REFUSE to see beyond what is coming from those pulpits. It is quite concerning to me - but because of what I have been through, am able to be patient with them, interceding for them that the Lord give them "eyes to see, ears to hear."

Thank you for the great post, Salt (as usual) - and five stars to you.

HUGS
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wow... just wow!
hf
 Quoting: Salt

Obeah? Never heard of that one!
 Quoting: bigD111


Obeah is a ancient African sorcery, dating back to Egypt. Similar to voodoo, and very powerful.

It is also an abomination before the Lord God.

If you remember, when Moses confronted the Pharaoh? The court "magicians" were able to do the first three plagues - this was done through Obeah.

Balaam (in the OT) was most likely, an ancient Obeah man.
Interestingly - God took what Balaam was on his way to do (send curses down on HIS people) so seriously? That He sent an angel to kill him.

I didn't know anything about it either - until it attacked me and my family. It was the Holy Spirit revealed to me exactly WHAT was going on, and who was sending it.

Obeah is real - without getting into the gory details - it really has been a nightmare. That said - in the name of Jesus Christ, I'm walking in victory over every bit of it - Luke 10:19.
hf
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yes, it is not flesh and blood we fight against! so true!
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I was caught up in all that years back - and got my butt kicked so bad that it almost cost me my salvation.

It's not because I didn't love the Lord - I loved him with all my heart - mostly because I was naive and far too trusting.

Few years later - here come the "internet" prophets (some which have even posted on this sight!)

Most of the IPs (internet prophets) are truly wolves, hiding behind a computer screen, calling themselves "Holy" but are, in fact practicing witchcraft, divination, obeah and other such abominations - worse yet, because of their practices and horrifying rituals, etc, have gotten a good deal of (demonic) power - which only propagates the deception more - and now have a huge audience that they can advertise themselves as "special."

I have learned (the hard way) that those who practice voodoo and obeah (voodoo on steroids) really believe that they can do this and STILL be a follower of Christ? Clearly under extreme demonic deception - and almost impossible for them to get out from under - very much like the prosperity teachers before them.

The reason I can say this is because some years back - (still reeling under the blow from the prosperity teachers) I now found myself a little too close to one of those IPs - got my butt kicked AGAIN.

Although I thank the Lord for hard lessons learned? It has been exceedingly painful and expensive journey.

I can even admit it now - even though I thought I was "strong in the Lord" I was, in reality, a sheep - easily led to the slaughter. Today, I thank the Lord that He truly is the Good Shepherd - and did in fact come after me.

These days - scarred but not charred, lol - I am no longer so easily deceived.

I have several friends that are still caught up in the prosperity movement - and although they really do profess a love for Christ, REFUSE to see beyond what is coming from those pulpits. It is quite concerning to me - but because of what I have been through, am able to be patient with them, interceding for them that the Lord give them "eyes to see, ears to hear."

Thank you for the great post, Salt (as usual) - and five stars to you.

HUGS
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There is nothing wrong with prosperity; and there are some great living believers who are very wealthy. It's your perception of wealth, and what you do to achieve it.

What demonizes this process is making it the most important part of your life. A god if you will.

We have people like Oprah, Proctor, and still others who pushed the secret video's, and Tony Robbins as well, though I see him as more a positive thinker and motivational teacher.

People with great wealth have a big responsibility to those in need, so its up to them which path they take. So yes, great wealth can both harm or build.
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You are correct - but isn't it interesting how the devil always lies by using the truth! What is wrong is how the prosperity teachers are picking peoples pockets - many of them sick, poor and elderly - then after they take their money - they kick them to the curb for "not having enough faith" when the so called promises don't come through.

I was involved with some of those ministries - and without naming names (which you would instantly recognize) can tell you, they are deeply entrenched with TPTB. These so called "ministries" have been put in place to deceive, destroy and to get rich doing so.
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Have joined? They always were.
They like you deny hell as well:
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These are your buddies Salt. The heretick crowd.

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PROFOUND AND POWERFUL COMMENT RE THIS YOUTUBE
while reading the following, all I could think was "ah, project paperclippaula white, jmeyer's no doubt products of this project."

from my experience, this says it all:

"My grandmother belonged to a tiny, seemingly insignificant little church in the South. She told me in the 1960's that during the 1940's someone in that church (who knew someone who worked in the government) was shown leaked documents about a "Nazi plot" to destroy America and it would be mainly by destroying the churches. Fake pastors who abuse children, or even getting people to do things that were against their nature, all else fails, the old-fashioned frame-up. Destroy communities. We see it."


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Yep, its this thread again. but, what's important is that the volume on this is getting turned way up. it's getting harder and harder to see who's legit and who's an evil agent. one of the best signs to know if a preacher has joined the ranks of the illuminati/luciferians is their wealth. but, there are many other revealing elements. you just have to know what to look for.

do not be fooled. and the ones that are fooled the easiest are the itchy-eared born-again fundies. the secular audience are mostly oblivious but sometimes i think they can see thru the deception better than those already grafted into the church. there are many born-again fundies that are not being led by the Holy Spirit.

there are a number of mainstream tv preachers that are obviously false teachers and evil agents. but, there are a few that mainstream fundies think are still in line with God and they are not. some are harder to recognize and you might be surprised when you find out who has blatantly joined the ranks. in these end times, deception is getting more and more challenging to see. without getting with God at the start of every single day and putting on the armor of God, it is almost impossible to not be deceived on a daily basis.

warriors in the army of God - prepare.
this is not a time to lay down and be weak.
this is a time to stand, ready for battle.

wimps need not apply. get up, stand up.

keep in mind that those who've joined the ranks have made a colossally stupid choice and therefore are not the sharpest knife in the drawer. so, sometimes the way they "represent" the illuminati is idiotic. while watching stupid people, you will see stupid things. here is some info that might be helpful:



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this guy gets on my nerves a bit, but he brings up good points:



 Quoting: Salt



It is sad to see how greedy anybody can get. Jpyce Meyer has a great message, and seems to help a lot of people.

But, bottom lime: she is putting way to much money into her own pocket.

The bible talks about the fall of the church. We have/had the pedophiles, and now we have the greedy.

Her message is great. I will practice what she preaches...but she is not. And she doesn't get any money from me until she practices what she preeches. Sure, having nice things is fine, but you hit the point of excessive when you walk the walk of Christ but so not put money toward the needs you speak of.

Does it ever end.....
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I was caught up in all that years back - and got my butt kicked so bad that it almost cost me my salvation.

It's not because I didn't love the Lord - I loved him with all my heart - mostly because I was naive and far too trusting.

Few years later - here come the "internet" prophets (some which have even posted on this sight!)

Most of the IPs (internet prophets) are truly wolves, hiding behind a computer screen, calling themselves "Holy" but are, in fact practicing witchcraft, divination, obeah and other such abominations - worse yet, because of their practices and horrifying rituals, etc, have gotten a good deal of (demonic) power - which only propagates the deception more - and now have a huge audience that they can advertise themselves as "special."

I have learned (the hard way) that those who practice voodoo and obeah (voodoo on steroids) really believe that they can do this and STILL be a follower of Christ? Clearly under extreme demonic deception - and almost impossible for them to get out from under - very much like the prosperity teachers before them.

The reason I can say this is because some years back - (still reeling under the blow from the prosperity teachers) I now found myself a little too close to one of those IPs - got my butt kicked AGAIN.

Although I thank the Lord for hard lessons learned? It has been exceedingly painful and expensive journey.

I can even admit it now - even though I thought I was "strong in the Lord" I was, in reality, a sheep - easily led to the slaughter. Today, I thank the Lord that He truly is the Good Shepherd - and did in fact come after me.

These days - scarred but not charred, lol - I am no longer so easily deceived.

I have several friends that are still caught up in the prosperity movement - and although they really do profess a love for Christ, REFUSE to see beyond what is coming from those pulpits. It is quite concerning to me - but because of what I have been through, am able to be patient with them, interceding for them that the Lord give them "eyes to see, ears to hear."

Thank you for the great post, Salt (as usual) - and five stars to you.

HUGS
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46820730


There is nothing wrong with prosperity; and there are some great living believers who are very wealthy. It's your perception of wealth, and what you do to achieve it.

What demonizes this process is making it the most important part of your life. A god if you will.

We have people like Oprah, Proctor, and still others who pushed the secret video's, and Tony Robbins as well, though I see him as more a positive thinker and motivational teacher.

People with great wealth have a big responsibility to those in need, so its up to them which path they take. So yes, great wealth can both harm or build.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51063801


You are correct - but isn't it interesting how the devil always lies by using the truth! What is wrong is how the prosperity teachers are picking peoples pockets - many of them sick, poor and elderly - then after they take their money - they kick them to the curb for "not having enough faith" when the so called promises don't come through.

I was involved with some of those ministries - and without naming names (which you would instantly recognize) can tell you, they are deeply entrenched with TPTB. These so called "ministries" have been put in place to deceive, destroy and to get rich doing so.
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Just some of the locusts the bible mentions that chip away and suck the livelihood out of us!
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Have joined? They always were.
They like you deny hell as well:
[link to wayoflife.org]

These are your buddies Salt. The heretick crowd.

Luke 14:34 Salt is good: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be seasoned?
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i dont deny hell
way to totally slander my stance on the matter
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I need no church, or any religious belief. The word religion is just that, a word only. It's whats in your heart that means everything in the end! Not who you associate with at church!
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I have a different way of looking at things from some on GLP, and I wanted to share that. (This is a general comment and not directed at the AC I have quoted.)

While there's a lot wrong with many (most?) organized churches, one of the foundational principles of Christianity is the concept of community. (Much more so than, say, Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism, etc.). It's not just about "me and Jesus," and I don't think that a fair reading of the gospels could ever give that impression. Receiving the Holy Spirit from God just for oneself is about as useful as a boy receiving a baseball bat for Christmas and trying to play with it by himself.

If you can't find a decent church near you, I'd suggest that you pray to find some like-minded individuals who, like you, are learning to be more fully devoted followers of Christ.
We become like that to which we are devoted. Choose wisely.
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It is sad to see how greedy anybody can get. Jpyce Meyer has a great message, and seems to help a lot of people.

But, bottom lime: she is putting way to much money into her own pocket.

The bible talks about the fall of the church. We have/had the pedophiles, and now we have the greedy.

Her message is great. I will practice what she preaches...but she is not. And she doesn't get any money from me until she practices what she preeches. Sure, having nice things is fine, but you hit the point of excessive when you walk the walk of Christ but so not put money toward the needs you speak of.

Does it ever end.....
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What are you smoking?
Joyce Meyers has a great message?
No she doesn't.

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I was caught up in all that years back - and got my butt kicked so bad that it almost cost me my salvation.

It's not because I didn't love the Lord - I loved him with all my heart - mostly because I was naive and far too trusting.

Few years later - here come the "internet" prophets (some which have even posted on this sight!)

Most of the IPs (internet prophets) are truly wolves, hiding behind a computer screen, calling themselves "Holy" but are, in fact practicing witchcraft, divination, obeah and other such abominations - worse yet, because of their practices and horrifying rituals, etc, have gotten a good deal of (demonic) power - which only propagates the deception more - and now have a huge audience that they can advertise themselves as "special."

I have learned (the hard way) that those who practice voodoo and obeah (voodoo on steroids) really believe that they can do this and STILL be a follower of Christ? Clearly under extreme demonic deception - and almost impossible for them to get out from under - very much like the prosperity teachers before them.

The reason I can say this is because some years back - (still reeling under the blow from the prosperity teachers) I now found myself a little too close to one of those IPs - got my butt kicked AGAIN.

Although I thank the Lord for hard lessons learned? It has been exceedingly painful and expensive journey.

I can even admit it now - even though I thought I was "strong in the Lord" I was, in reality, a sheep - easily led to the slaughter. Today, I thank the Lord that He truly is the Good Shepherd - and did in fact come after me.

These days - scarred but not charred, lol - I am no longer so easily deceived.

I have several friends that are still caught up in the prosperity movement - and although they really do profess a love for Christ, REFUSE to see beyond what is coming from those pulpits. It is quite concerning to me - but because of what I have been through, am able to be patient with them, interceding for them that the Lord give them "eyes to see, ears to hear."

Thank you for the great post, Salt (as usual) - and five stars to you.

HUGS
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wow... just wow!
hf
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Obeah? Never heard of that one!
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Obeah is a ancient African sorcery, dating back to Egypt. Similar to voodoo, and very powerful.

It is also an abomination before the Lord God.

If you remember, when Moses confronted the Pharaoh? The court "magicians" were able to do the first three plagues - this was done through Obeah.

Balaam (in the OT) was most likely, an ancient Obeah man.
Interestingly - God took what Balaam was on his way to do (send curses down on HIS people) so seriously? That He sent an angel to kill him.

I didn't know anything about it either - until it attacked me and my family. It was the Holy Spirit revealed to me exactly WHAT was going on, and who was sending it.

Obeah is real - without getting into the gory details - it really has been a nightmare. That said - in the name of Jesus Christ, I'm walking in victory over every bit of it - Luke 10:19.
hf
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thank you for this - eph 6:12-17
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