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If Jesus is "always with us" then why do we have to wait for his "return" to get an answer?

 
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Jesus is available to us all because he is the I Am, the individual, which we are all capable of becoming.
"For the Lord God shall not do anything, unless first he tell his secret, or his private plans to his servants, the prophets."
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you stink of burning sulfur, filthy toad
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This is the love of Christ on display.
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No, worshiping religion is a sign of FEAR, all you Christians do is preach FEAR to get your tithing money in for the month. Again, wake up, wake up, it's all bullshit. I don't need to believe in anything, just want to see if YOU can provide some proof of all your bullshit...which you can't, so I rest my case...
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you are a dirty dog barking and howling, not any sort of my brother, niether you are my enemy, to whom I commanded to wish good, rather than love, you lowlife moron.
Shut your hellish pit of filth, which serves only garbage.
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From your post, it looks like you are the dirty dog that is howling, the more angry you get, the more you prove my case against you...shame on you Christian....shame...

you are as good as animal, and since you have not become as good as a human, all the shame is forever on you.
You sown the seed on this theread, you have reaped the frut of your demnation.
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So what you are seeing before your eyes is the "rapture" or death. 5 cops die and two are saved. Sorry rapturetards. 2,000 Turks die and 1 is saved or whatever. 6 billion to go.
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religion is a sign of FEAR, all you Christians do is preach FEAR to get your tithing money in f

Like I said there are very few Christians inside the churches. That's why the government you love so much protects religion. They do it for Satan. Religion is the big lie. Yeshu is king.
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Jesus is available to us all because he is the I Am, the individual, which we are all capable of becoming.
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Christ is the I am, but it's not a matter of becoming the I am, for that is who we truly are already. It's the ignorance of this that is the problem.
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Because he's a character representing "The Way." (Among other things such as the 4th chakra and the sun) The Kingdom is within, but Christians don't believe him. He told them to seek first the kingdom, but they don't do it. They are utterly lost in the elementary exoteric teachings. Waste of time trying to teach them anything.
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Jesus is available to us all because he is the I Am, the individual, which we are all capable of becoming.
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Christ is the I am, but it's not a matter of becoming the I am, for that is who we truly are already. It's the ignorance of this that is the problem.
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I don't think so, because are not born as individuals.
"For the Lord God shall not do anything, unless first he tell his secret, or his private plans to his servants, the prophets."
Amos 3:7 WYC
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Re: If Jesus is "always with us" then why do we have to wait for his "return" to get an answer?
First of all, Jesus has nothing to do with religion. "Religion" is bondage (look up the etymology) and Jesus Christ "came to set the captive free".

Secondly, Jesus is supernatural. He is with the Christian at all times. The Kingdom of Heaven exists in the hearts of Christians.

God is not mocked. Be careful what you say; you will have to defend your every word one day when you stand before God.
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Like these self rightous liars will..right?


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Re: If Jesus is "always with us" then why do we have to wait for his "return" to get an answer?
Jesus is available to us all because he is the I Am, the individual, which we are all capable of becoming.
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Christ is the I am, but it's not a matter of becoming the I am, for that is who we truly are already. It's the ignorance of this that is the problem.
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I don't think so, because are not born as individuals.
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I'm not sure I get what you are saying? Are you saying the I am is an individual?
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Re: If Jesus is "always with us" then why do we have to wait for his "return" to get an answer?
First of all, Jesus has nothing to do with religion. "Religion" is bondage (look up the etymology) and Jesus Christ "came to set the captive free".

Secondly, Jesus is supernatural. He is with the Christian at all times. The Kingdom of Heaven exists in the hearts of Christians.

God is not mocked. Be careful what you say; you will have to defend your every word one day when you stand before God.
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Proof please, not words, proof. You can't provide it. You know nothing, just rumors, just hearsay. Get your head out of your ass and wake the fuck up.
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Actually you've mistaken, There is proof of God and of the Devil. Did you really think there is not? Just because you don't know about it? Ha. I hold the truth but you don't deserve to know it.
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For I tell you this, you will never see me again until you say, 'Blessings on the one who comes in the name of the LORD!'"


“If you love me, keep my commands. 16 And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever— 17 the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him.
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Re: If Jesus is "always with us" then why do we have to wait for his "return" to get an answer?
First of all, Jesus has nothing to do with religion. "Religion" is bondage (look up the etymology) and Jesus Christ "came to set the captive free".

Secondly, Jesus is supernatural. He is with the Christian at all times. The Kingdom of Heaven exists in the hearts of Christians.

God is not mocked. Be careful what you say; you will have to defend your every word one day when you stand before God.
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Proof please, not words, proof. You can't provide it. You know nothing, just rumors, just hearsay. Get your head out of your ass and wake the fuck up.
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Proof, proof, proof-- is what all you people say.

Let's just say Christianity is above your head and below your toes, it's too tough for you to understand, and leave it at that.
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Re: If Jesus is "always with us" then why do we have to wait for his "return" to get an answer?
First of all, Jesus has nothing to do with religion. "Religion" is bondage (look up the etymology) and Jesus Christ "came to set the captive free".

Secondly, Jesus is supernatural. He is with the Christian at all times. The Kingdom of Heaven exists in the hearts of Christians.

God is not mocked. Be careful what you say; you will have to defend your every word one day when you stand before God.
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Proof please, not words, proof. You can't provide it. You know nothing, just rumors, just hearsay. Get your head out of your ass and wake the fuck up.
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Actually you've mistaken, There is proof of God and of the Devil. Did you really think there is not? Just because you don't know about it? Ha. I hold the truth but you don't deserve to know it.
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And at one point you too were looking for answers too.

And you deserved to be saved and this poster dosent?

I remember a parable...

The king calls in his servant who owes millions.

King sentences servant to prison and his family to be sold as slaves.

Servant begs and grovels and asks for mercy.

King feels sorry fkr servant and forgives him.

Servant goes away rejoicing....on the steps of the palace he runs into a fellow servant who owes him 100 bucks.

He grabs him by the throat and drags him to debtors prison.

Fellow servant asks for mercy.

He refuses and says to him "you dont deserve forgiveness of your debt"

King hears about this and locks up the servant he forgave for life and sells his entire family into slavery.

The other servant who got locked up was set free and given the previous servants position and authority in the palace.

Mercy is only shown to those who show mercy.

So you....WILL RECIEVE NO MERCY BECAUSE YOU SHOW NONE.
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Re: If Jesus is "always with us" then why do we have to wait for his "return" to get an answer?
First of all, Jesus has nothing to do with religion. "Religion" is bondage (look up the etymology) and Jesus Christ "came to set the captive free".

Secondly, Jesus is supernatural. He is with the Christian at all times. The Kingdom of Heaven exists in the hearts of Christians.

God is not mocked. Be careful what you say; you will have to defend your every word one day when you stand before God.
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Proof please, not words, proof. You can't provide it. You know nothing, just rumors, just hearsay. Get your head out of your ass and wake the fuck up.
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Actually you've mistaken, There is proof of God and of the Devil. Did you really think there is not? Just because you don't know about it? Ha. I hold the truth but you don't deserve to know it.
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And at one point you too were looking for answers too.

And you deserved to be saved and this poster dosent?

I remember a parable...

The king calls in his servant who owes millions.

King sentences servant to prison and his family to be sold as slaves.

Servant begs and grovels and asks for mercy.

King feels sorry fkr servant and forgives him.

Servant goes away rejoicing....on the steps of the palace he runs into a fellow servant who owes him 100 bucks.

He grabs him by the throat and drags him to debtors prison.

Fellow servant asks for mercy.

He refuses and says to him "you dont deserve forgiveness of your debt"

King hears about this and locks up the servant he forgave for life and sells his entire family into slavery.

The other servant who got locked up was set free and given the previous servants position and authority in the palace.

Mercy is only shown to those who show mercy.

So you....WILL RECIEVE NO MERCY BECAUSE YOU SHOW NONE.
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My mission in order of importance:
1. Save the innocent.
2. Remove the corrupt either by:
a. Making them repent
b. Killing them.

We are at 2a.

Which ever path you choose the innocent inherit the Earth and the corrupt are rendered powerless.

You have shown no mercy to the innocent. Yet I still show you mercy by giving you the chance to save your lives.

I think that's bloody decent of me...

Jesus Senior
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Re: If Jesus is "always with us" then why do we have to wait for his "return" to get an answer?
First of all, Jesus has nothing to do with religion. "Religion" is bondage (look up the etymology) and Jesus Christ "came to set the captive free".

Secondly, Jesus is supernatural. He is with the Christian at all times. The Kingdom of Heaven exists in the hearts of Christians.

God is not mocked. Be careful what you say; you will have to defend your every word one day when you stand before God.
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You may certainly venerate Jesus, and in that way Jesus is "always with us." Jesus was a first century rabbi. He was a very good man, maybe the best, because he taught us how to love.

He was mortal, just as we all are. Why make him into a supernatural being? No need at all to mock a God if a God doesn't exist except in the minds of true believers. Don't wait around for a "return" or count on some everlasting life. What if you're wrong? Live this one life in the best way possible.
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Re: If Jesus is "always with us" then why do we have to wait for his "return" to get an answer?
If Jesus is supernatural, how am I to provide proof to you? Proof is science: and that deals with depth and dimensions and measurements. Jesus is ultra dimensional and cannot be measured.

The path to Christianity involves faith. You must step out and accept it. If you do not, you will continue to live (what I suspect is) a miserable life.
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You live a life of fear.

That is why you need to believe that there is a super powerful being there to help you out. You are afraid to be on your own.

Whistling by the graveyard.
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Re: If Jesus is "always with us" then why do we have to wait for his "return" to get an answer?
First of all, Jesus has nothing to do with religion. "Religion" is bondage (look up the etymology) and Jesus Christ "came to set the captive free".

Secondly, Jesus is supernatural. He is with the Christian at all times. The Kingdom of Heaven exists in the hearts of Christians.

God is not mocked. Be careful what you say; you will have to defend your every word one day when you stand before God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71661329




You may certainly venerate Jesus, and in that way Jesus is "always with us." Jesus was a first century rabbi. He was a very good man, maybe the best, because he taught us how to love.

He was mortal, just as we all are. Why make him into a supernatural being? No need at all to mock a God if a God doesn't exist except in the minds of true believers. Don't wait around for a "return" or count on some everlasting life. What if you're wrong? Live this one life in the best way possible.
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If you read up on early christian history, you will see that jesus actually started out as a supernatural being and only became human once the gospels come into play.
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If you read up on early christian history, you will see that jesus actually started out as a supernatural being and only became human once the gospels come into play.
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Just like all of us. We too are SPIRIT having a human experience. We too are divine.


BOOK OF WISDOM/SOLOMON: “Know then that salvation is not attained by uttering Mantras, or by burning incense, or observing thousands of fasts. Until the incarnated Soul knows that he/she is divine, he/she cannot attain salvation.”

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You don't but being an atheist you wouldn't understand. Sucks to be you! Especially in these end times.:D
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RELIGION IS

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OP, couldn't agree more.
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Jesus is available to us all because he is the I Am, the individual, which we are all capable of becoming.
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Christ is the I am, but it's not a matter of becoming the I am, for that is who we truly are already. It's the ignorance of this that is the problem.
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I don't think so, because are not born as individuals.
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I'm not sure I get what you are saying? Are you saying the I am is an individual?
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Yes, becoming a self aware individual is the key to eternal life.
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Christ is the I am, but it's not a matter of becoming the I am, for that is who we truly are already. It's the ignorance of this that is the problem.
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I don't think so, because are not born as individuals.
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I'm not sure I get what you are saying? Are you saying the I am is an individual?
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Yes, becoming a self aware individual is the key to eternal life.
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So you are saying that the I am is something one acquires?
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First of all, Jesus has nothing to do with religion. "Religion" is bondage (look up the etymology) and Jesus Christ "came to set the captive free".

Secondly, Jesus is supernatural. He is with the Christian at all times. The Kingdom of Heaven exists in the hearts of Christians.

God is not mocked. Be careful what you say; you will have to defend your every word one day when you stand before God.
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You may certainly venerate Jesus, and in that way Jesus is "always with us." Jesus was a first century rabbi. He was a very good man, maybe the best, because he taught us how to love.

He was mortal, just as we all are. Why make him into a supernatural being? No need at all to mock a God if a God doesn't exist except in the minds of true believers. Don't wait around for a "return" or count on some everlasting life. What if you're wrong? Live this one life in the best way possible.
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If you read up on early christian history, you will see that jesus actually started out as a supernatural being and only became human once the gospels come into play.
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And how could you possibly know that? Early Christian history?
Just don't make anything up.
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First of all, Jesus has nothing to do with religion. "Religion" is bondage (look up the etymology) and Jesus Christ "came to set the captive free".

Secondly, Jesus is supernatural. He is with the Christian at all times. The Kingdom of Heaven exists in the hearts of Christians.

God is not mocked. Be careful what you say; you will have to defend your every word one day when you stand before God.
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You may certainly venerate Jesus, and in that way Jesus is "always with us." Jesus was a first century rabbi. He was a very good man, maybe the best, because he taught us how to love.

He was mortal, just as we all are. Why make him into a supernatural being? No need at all to mock a God if a God doesn't exist except in the minds of true believers. Don't wait around for a "return" or count on some everlasting life. What if you're wrong? Live this one life in the best way possible.
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If you read up on early christian history, you will see that jesus actually started out as a supernatural being and only became human once the gospels come into play.
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And how could you possibly know that? Early Christian history?
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Your second question is that answer to your first. It's not a state secret. The information is out there for anyone who wants to investigate. In the earliest writings, including the epistles, Christ is not portrayed as a historical being. But once the gospels gain ground, that story was read into the epistles, just like it is now. But taken on their own, Jesus of Nazareth isn't there.
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RELIGION IS

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He is always with us THRU his bestowal of the Spirit of Truth into the genetic mind of earth.

And he did promise to return in person.. something a creator son has never done in this manner with sleevers rolled up and we are in HIS correcting time.. and the correcting is harsh.
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And gawd this is a dumb thread. Earth will not know god until you people reason.
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Jesus is available to us all because he is the I Am, the individual, which we are all capable of becoming.
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Christ is the I am, but it's not a matter of becoming the I am, for that is who we truly are already. It's the ignorance of this that is the problem.
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Truth and thankyou for posting it. God can only manifest thru the I AM KNOWING person.
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Jesus is available to us all because he is the I Am, the individual, which we are all capable of becoming.
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Christ is the I am, but it's not a matter of becoming the I am, for that is who we truly are already. It's the ignorance of this that is the problem.
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Truth and thankyou for posting it. God can only manifest thru the I AM KNOWING person.
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You might find this of interest. The I am, or Self, is known far beyond christianity.

Thread: At the heart of the various religions, God is teaching that consciousness is not something you have. Consciousness is what you are





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