Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.

You should have your own name! We're all 'not Chaol' :)

Ok I have a question for all of you then. Why are humans so pathetic? Why are they always willing to trade freedom for a false sense of safety? Emotion trumps logic every time.

No, their 'logic' is avoidance of emotion. False safety is a logical, predictable, construct.

Holy shit. Thank you for expanding my perspective.

Okay, I couldn't resist. I know I said I posted the last one for the night, but I can't help myself.

Chaol blew my mind with this post.........and what followed after is hilarious. They tried to figure out the code. I'm too tired to stay up to see if Chaol ever explained it. I'll be back on it tomorrow, LOL!!!

for the curious.. December 21 is not the "end" of anything other than a type of calendar.

It is the last part-day of one and the start of an other.

The new era is a new type of humanity. It's the same thing I've been talking about for a few years, although for me it's 2013.

It is highly unlikely that anything significant will happen on that day (other than reactions by humans) and more likely that 'things' related to the new era will take 1-2 months to manifest.

just for your reference :)

No, their 'logic' is avoidance of emotion. False safety is a logical, predictable, construct.

Greetings!

If I may, a thought experiment.

Imagine that each probability that exists is a pathway.

There are many different types of pathways such as hallways, walkways and corridors, alleyways, midways, streets and avenues, broadways, highways, etc.

So, we have different "sizes" of probabilities. Some probabilities are more related to other probabilities so thus become "larger" as more things travel on them. A road can become a highway as more cars travel on it, for example.

Further, each probability can connect with any other probability. Any two or more pathways can connect, forming a "nexus of probabilities".

The more probabilities that connect, the larger the nexus is and the easier it is to travel. (Because the more probabilities that interact with it, the more relative it is to the probability you are experiencing. This enables you to not only walk down the street and have different things happen but also to travel in spacetime (as long as where you are going is relative to where you are most experienced).)

There are representations of this in outer space that you sometimes call 'black holes' and sometimes call other things. These 'black holes' exist everywhere to some degree. The larger the black hole, so to speak, the more relative it is to that which meets it.

You can see less relative representations of these nexi in physical places like street corners. Some corners (and the areas surrounding them) will be good for business or social exchanges, for example. Usually, the greater this metaphysical nexus is the greater the physical pathway becomes. Thus, we have cities, families, ideas, encounters, etc., all illustrating their shrinking or growing metaphysical nexus.

You can think of the center of a galaxy as a combining of probabilities both literally and figuratively. But these 'black holes' can also be found in your body and time/space, and everywhere else.

It's simply the force of attraction/repulsion (the element Chaon in ecsys).

Here's the interesting part. When probabilities comprising a nexus are being added at a substantial rate (and, thus, becoming 'too big' for itself) the probabilities will usually clump together and taper off the nexus. At this point it will continue to 'add to' a smaller nexus.

Our worlds began to diverge just before your industrial revolution (and what would have been the time of our industrial revolution).

A few hundred years ago there were many probabilities comprising this nexus. The feedback and feedforward of the concepts and activities surrounding the industrial revolution eventually enabled the polyfurcation of these probabilities.

Thus, there are now *many* worlds just like your own that are at their own stages of development, all having substantially diverged from yours nearly 300 hundred years ago.

Most likely there will soon be a scientific breakthrough in your world that will enable development of "warp drive" based not on traversing physical space but utilizing these ever-present nexus points to combine the "here" with the "there".

It is no different than experiencing a smell by using memory to recall a smell from 10 years ago rather than recreating the same smell in the present. Not using memory (a "black hole") will eventually sound as ridiculous to you as using rocket fuel to reach the moon. You already connect to non-physical worlds on a smaller scale (such as with intuition, or even sight/sound). You just don't realize how real these experiences are yet.

When we use a computer, for example, it is not that we are interacting with a separate physical object to perform tasks. The physical object is simply a (non-physical) representation of a miniature solar system of concepts. The computer is no more real that the word or even the thought of it. You've developed these representations in order to do something you could not otherwise do.

We can use our minds to add 1+1, or we can use a calculator.

Eventually (probably) you will be able to connect to a massive network using your mind instead of computer hardware. The "physical" representations you use now to perform these non-physical tasks is just so that the concepts and tools can be formed internally.

It is similar to you, as a baby, trying to verbalize words using your vocal cords in order to be able to *think* in a new way and do things you could not previously do.

So when you're looking at a physical object you're looking at a 'black hole'. Other things have combined together in a nexus of probabilities. In one probability the chair is a lake, in the other the lake is a chair. You can "get to the lake from the chair", so to speak.

When this world realizes that physical distance (and distance in time) is not absolute then we will begin to do things that science fiction hasn't even come up with yet. Things that I cannot even begin to explain.

This is most likely to occur after the current period, when it is realized the 'changes' most of us have envisioned would occur (for example, with 2012) are representations of non-physical changes. Like a dream.

It all begins with Representation.

Thanks.

Did those videos, HD photos and other multimedia ever get provided?

for the curious.. December 21 is not the "end" of anything other than a type of calendar.

It is the last part-day of one and the start of an other.

The new era is a new type of humanity. It's the same thing I've been talking about for a few years, although for me it's 2013.

It is highly unlikely that anything significant will happen on that day (other than reactions by humans) and more likely that 'things' related to the new era will take 1-2 months to manifest.

just for your reference :)

Hi Chaol.

I'm wondering if some will manifest it in their reality since they have poured so much into it?

The cult goes on. I am all for opening your mind to the reality you inhabit, but fuck...the people following Choad are fucking morons.

I'm going to "push" the current experience into what would be called the distant future.

The world a few very interesting photos or videos would create does not compare to the world an "instructional guide" would create. Why show you a picture when I can just take you there, instead?

Can you imagine a piece of paper that performs the same function as a galaxy filled with supercomputers? Being able to 'teleport' to an other dimension from the extended sound of your own voice? Learning a language 500x more efficient than English and, thus, being able to process information exponentially faster than you currently do as you begin to think in it instead of slow and cumbersome English?

As is said.. "watch this space"

I'd think so, if it is logical in a useful way.

Perhaps the most ignorant that we can be is thinking that our perceptions are not our own.

That, somehow, "that over there" is not us. (What an awesome trick.) What are we if not your own perceptions? Residents of your own perspective? That is to say, YOU?

I'm sure you're reading this response, however. Surely you must see how you yourself have been following this thread for about two weeks and, indeed, are experiencing your own perceptions.

We can only resist ourselves.

To be angry at a thread that does not provide the answer you seek is unfair because 1) you did not ask the question; and 2) what thread could?

You have only to ask the question that you have been ignoring since 'it' first happened.

You're welcome to ask, "Why the fuck did... happen to me" and fill it with all the anger as you'd like. Right now it is the only relevant question.

The blue plastic record spins on the turntable, but is the music real?

I will consider your personally-directed anger as nothing more than an interesting introduction. All is of course forgiven because nothing wrong was done.

So when you've shouted out the question please let me know and I will help you to find out why.

Perhaps you will be amazed :)

Dear Choad,

You speak in vague generalizations, mixed with obscure statements that create the illusion of specifics. You have become very adept at being an excellent charlatan.

I am not a victim. Charlatans love victims because they are vulnerable. They have secrets, that you make them believe you already know about. It makes you seem meta-human in their eyes. My life has been rather pleasant and any perceived injustices have been made peace with.

Also, I actually have been ignoring this threads for months. I stop in and try to make the vulnerable think. You tell these people how to perceive their reality. That isn't salvation, that is entrapment into your cult.

People...listen to those who explore reality, but avoid those who tell the Tao of exploring it.

This guy is a Choad. He is a message board Charlie Manson before the killing spree.

Free your mind, don't let Choad boy program it.

We could use a PalTalk chat room and lock it. Or start a Facebook page for Ecsys and keep it private.

Edit: The only thing though, is Chaol created this space here. I kinda don't want to leave it.

Did Chaol explain what the revelation was that split our worlds?


Thread: Notes from an "alternate universe": Meeting in the new Dream reality

My world is the dream world. To myself it is just called reality. But from your perspective it is as a dream. Some years ago our worlds were as one. It would still be so if it were not for a powerful revelation that split our worlds into two.

Chaol makes this statement:

Thread: Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking. (Page 43)

"Again, the closer the dream world is the more dream-like your world will be until it "passes right through you". You could say, by then you have become something else entirely.

Or, more accurately, your perspective has shifted automatically.

(If it did not, you would not be able to perceive any changes.)

That's why I say there is nothing to do. Because there isn't. It happens automatically.

In the dream world you will more quickly realize how you create your reality."




If there is nothing to do and the perspective shifts automatically, then why are we trying to learn Ec?

Thank you. This is exciting. WhooHooo! I had been wondering if the whole body system needed attention since Chaol says Neuronics is throughout the cellular structure. (my paraphrase, I'll have to find the exact quote if I can.)
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How did the revelation of Ecsys split the worlds?

Very interesting.

1) So why did this model I have been talking to have to leave then?
2) I had asked about the statement the "other" Chaol made. He says we will learn Ec automatically. Is this a true statement?
3) Or, if we learn it automatically, are you saying we still won't have knowledge of how we use it (such as now)?

Thank you. I appreciate it.

Can I learn I create my perceptions through learning how to use the Genius? Or, is it only through learning the language that I will see this?

Me too. That's why I was posting about technology recently.

Also, I guess I'll go ahead and bring this up. I had a friend who had a library downloaded to his mind. He said he will never have to read a book again. Wonder if we can make a Genius for something like this?

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A great start to a thread from another who sees how all of the actors and roles are created.

As I mentioned some time ago, this is the year when the 'actors' begin to be exposed. You may have seen this recently in the latest news drama.

This is so that you will see that you are not only the audience but also the actors on stage.