Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.

I definitely do feel responsible for my experience and the perspective I see it from. My inability to explain my perspective to her has led me down many paths (as she's revealed time and again, that I do not understand it all that well myself). Her lack of interest and distrust of the "non-physical" is rooted deeply in her choice to see her existence as temporary and purely physical.

Hope and fear.. both articles of resistance not so unlike the other.

When we fear something we are still interacting with it, drawing it nearer.

When we hope something we are interacting with it, also, but it a way that speaks "that is not us", continuing the illusion of separation indefinitely.

Basically, letting go of fear is the realization that you are what you fear. What was feared only seems that way because of the resistance to a part of yourself (a process that creates all kinds of 'demons', so to speak) rather than more of what it actually is.

thank you for both responses Chaol. I'm now representing myself as one that is clever enough to use this information to perceive what is already there. I think I see how we create the reality, and I can also understand why I have experienced so much peace in the moments of perception before assignment of value occurs in the conscious mind.

I appreciate the reminder. Thank you.


The "fight" I consistently find myself in, is as a result of my (personal) resistance to (what I perceive as) her "self destructive" nature and desire for short term satisfaction that is in conflict with sustained long term satisfaction(and stability). She can be very careless and reckless (We've discussed her perspective at length and I am sure she perceives this as her being "free-spirited"). I've been told (in quasi-irrational emotionally charged arguments) I behave more like a "father" than a "husband" a few times. She perceives my resistance as an act of control (I suppose it is).

Hi Chaol, I'd appreciate your help with my Genius please. I made a few Genius Models for something I wanted to perceive last month...a new job; it didn't work--that is, I didn't get the job I made the Genius for.

I'm trying again with a different company...and have made six Genius models for a new job, but none have been company specific and I feel they are too vague (in my creation of them) to be effective.

Can you help walk me through a Genius run for my new job?

Let's start from scratch (or where ever you want to start).

Please?

No, my symbol is something I have never seen before...which is my avatar picture.

The space is GLP. (I'm not meaning the person has to be from GLP, though.)

The Genius is for a true love so I made it: "flowers from my true love." Then changed it to "receive flowers" probably a month or so later when you brought it to my attention.

I'm thinking I'd better re-do my Genius and start over. The intent started way back so it's in action. But, I would like to perfect it to see how it works.

My husband was a perfect match of an avatar I made a couple of years before I met him. In fact, I was so shocked at the resemblance, I trashed the avatar, LOL! (He even wore the same glasses the avatar had!!!!)

Since I didn't really know what I was doing back then, I'd love to see the difference now that I have a better idea about all of this, heh!

So, I get the idea GLP is not the space you would recommend for this. Am I correct?

Thanks for your help, btw. You could probably start a business with this, hehe!

Yes, but to get to those portals, I try for something else...such as to pick up the symbols I left in the library. I have left symbols in the library through visualization and placing them where Marshwiggle placed her symbols....would it work to put a cup outside to fill with sunlight...and every Tuesday, I go look at the cup and make a strange noise? Would that help me get to the portals?

If I use the words out of context, how would I confuse them? Once I use them a certain way...do I always need to use them that way? Iow, once the context is set, it needs to stay the same? (So would that be same as a Genius....the symbol in a space?)

If so, then I need to remember the whole sentence and not just the word. Iow, I would always say, "Look, it's latket outside" when I use that word?

Awwwww, I feel for you. I really do.

I'd like to give you some ideas. I"m not sure if they will help, but it's worth a shot.

If you quit trying to include her in this, isn't it possible she will jump right into it anyway? It could be she senses a manipulation or else your resistance is making problems.

Also, my plan was to make a bunch of $ and drop some into my husband's bank account. What would happen if once you learned to use the Genius, if you showed her the extra $500 you made with it? That might catch her attention real fast if she isn't already into it.

Another thing to consider. Chaol asked what would it be like for you, if your wife disappeared tomorrow. I also ask, what would it be like if you had to give up learning all this tomorrow?

None of us knows what's going to happen, whether we know how to use a Genius or not. I guess the difference is now, with us consciously using it, we are probably going to face guilt, fear, etc:. but in a different way than before.

In the past, when something happens that we don't like, we weren't sure why it happened. Now, we feel like we may have caused it. But, the feelings are the same, they are just in a different context. We still deal with guilt, sorrow, etc;. There seems to be no getting around it and as you know, we are drama queens.

I wish I could perceive a world where no one gets hurts. And, I'm doing my best at it, but I also accept it may not happen.

Anyway, I don't know if this helps at all. I feel for you and hope it works out. Thanks for sharing with us. I think we need to talk about these things.

Hugs!

Verrrrrry interesting. Would this be something you recommend for any of us or is this something one should do at a certain stage of their understanding? And how long might it take? Or is that completely an unknown?

Dodec, if you do this, I hope you'll tell us about it.

I definitely do feel responsible for my experience and the perspective I see it from. My inability to explain my perspective to her has led me down many paths (as she's revealed time and again, that I do not understand it all that well myself). Her lack of interest and distrust of the "non-physical" is rooted deeply in her choice to see her existence as temporary and purely physical.

Yes, there is negativity in my interpretation of when I perceive threats and perceive violence and perceive robberies and muggings.

No, I believe some people may think killing other Humans as the norm and have no empathy. so technically others would not perceive it as negative rather as selfish-good for their greedy selves.

so how do I solve those negative perceptions that somehow come into my perception without my consent?

thanks again

So here we are!

We live our lives hoping that one day we will find the Truth and live with it happily ever after
We live our lives fearing that one day the Truth will come and smash the idea/concept/thing we have about ourselves and our life.

But...the Truth does not exist!

In its ultimate consequence the above points to: "not your fault/not to your merit" about everyone's life.

Because as i have understand it from Chaol, none of us has ever perceived anything that was not the most relative/logical to its previous perception.

None of us has ever done anything more (where did the "extra" energy come from?), or less of what he could have done (it wouldn't have happened). We all did/do/will do our best and everyone else in our position would have done the same. Because there was never any "more" or "less" to do.

But thanks to Chaol, we can now know that the above, is not the most boring statement about life. Quite the opposite.

But we cannot simply believe, be convinced or be persuaded about the above. It means nothing! We won't know what to do about it! We have to experience it, entering our bloodstream (I still haven't. I am just following the pointers, which means that I may also have taken a "wrong" turn) :)

Unfortunately, we don't need to do anything about it.

We need only interact to seem like we exist.

And it doesn't matter what we interact with.

Thus, the world we seem to live in.

Doing "something" in particular is a distraction from not having to do anything in particular. But we like to convince ourselves that if we do X then it is good.

When actually none of it matters. It's just how we keep the illusion going.

You are the most beautiful and wondrous thing that could ever be imagined.

You are Something born of nothing-in-particular.

How amazing is that!?

You are that which takes an infinity of perceptions to try and reproduce.

All of the sonnets, birds, poems, clouds, hats, and swords in the world try, time and time again, to capture your essence. But cannot.

You are the life of life. The beauty of beauty. The wonder of wonder. That which things things try to be but cannot. That is how awesome you are.

They try through all manner of drama, seemingly to create a universe of things that, sadly, cannot capture even a small fragment of the impossible-to-perceive.

Although these things can be beautiful and not, happy and sad, at times thrilling or entirely boring, and everything in between, it is really just a distraction from your essence.

Who are you? You are whomever you are, whomever is possible to be.

But these things are confusing. Who wants to be nothing-in-particular when we can have the illusion of something-in-particular.

And so here you are. Impossible to define, impossible to perceive, impossible to merely think of.. but how wonderfully awesome is it that we can try.

And "try" is this essence. It is all we can do, and it is enough to create an endless universe of yourself, exploding at every moment and filling it again with an entirely new outlook of yourself.

But this "yourself" is not the you that wears clothes and eats food. It is YOU. The most relative thing to you. Your clothes do not illustrate this. The dishes on the table do not capture this. It is so wonderfully hidden because it is this nothing-in-particular, yet everything that could possibly be.

Are you alone? It would seem from my description that you are. What else is there when you are everything?

But the secret of this nothing-in-particular is that you have created an entire universe of perspective because this "alone" is irrelevant!

As soon as "nothing" is irrelevant it 'creates' SOMETHING. How can something be irrelevant when there is nothing else with which to compare?

So here you are.

"Alone in the universe..." is only something to be sad about if there was once two and now one.

Now there is an infinity of you so that it is impossible. And this beauty, these hats, these endless swords, and all the poems that will ever be written are a part of something entirely wondrous and beautiful.

Think of it as a gift from nowhere. It is only an illusion if there is something 'real' with which to compare it. So this story, these epic dramas we call existence is all that needs to be and is the most real thing that could ever possibly be.

You are all that you need to be right now. When I say that everything exists here and now I mean that there is no need to be anyone else, go anyplace else, do anything else, other than what you are doing right now.

Until this YOU perceives something else.

In one word, the you I have illustrated is Perfection.

Hi.

Of your six models can you tell me which one you think could work best?

Please tell me about your symbol for it, along with the other elements (if you can).

Thanks

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The "fight" I consistently find myself in, is as a result of my (personal) resistance to (what I perceive as) her "self destructive" nature and desire for short term satisfaction that is in conflict with sustained long term satisfaction(and stability). She can be very careless and reckless (We've discussed her perspective at length and I am sure she perceives this as her being "free-spirited"). I've been told (in quasi-irrational emotionally charged arguments) I behave more like a "father" than a "husband" a few times. She perceives my resistance as an act of control (I suppose it is).

1. If she were exactly the same as you in all respects except for this (that she did not have the same perspective as you, or could not understand your perspective) what do you think this may signify?

2. If you were talking to an other Jesse (same everything, except that you didn't 'get it') what would this bring?

@Jesse



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Whoa, Jesse. I have just interacted with this same experience in my current relationship. To have read your words here and then have it present in my life later the same day was so odd.

Thank you for sharing your journey. The conversation has been helpful in navigating my own.

My take on mine is currently that this "other" represents some facet of myself (particularly my own recklessness or wanting to be free) which I am somewhere critical of, yet either blind to or, when aware of it, wanting to allow myself the "freedom" to do as I please without regard (without fear?).

It all seems tied up in a perspective where either fear or a difference in logic is present. I can't tell which one.

Thanks again Jesse, Chaol and all.

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Let's say you had the entire universe from which to choose whatever you wished to experience.

You then decided to focus on a very, very small part of it. For example, someone being killed in your neighborhood a few years ago. Ne'ermind the other, similar killings in other places, nor of all of the other things that exist in the universe.

You then spend 10,000 years focused on this very small part of yourself. Perhaps you think that you should focus on it because it is bad and you have compassion.

Can you then say that it comes into your perception without your consent?

Further, if someone is being mugged... where is it happening? Inside or outside of your perspective?

My mother told me that this song was one of many inspirations that led her to name me Jesse. (She had a lot of Jesse "synchronicities" shortly before they (my mother and father) were considering my name.)

Could be the theme song for my life. lol

I appreciate the reminder. Thank you.


The "fight" I consistently find myself in, is as a result of my (personal) resistance to (what I perceive as) her "self destructive" nature and desire for short term satisfaction that is in conflict with sustained long term satisfaction(and stability). She can be very careless and reckless (We've discussed her perspective at length and I am sure she perceives this as her being "free-spirited"). I've been told (in quasi-irrational emotionally charged arguments) I behave more like a "father" than a "husband" a few times. She perceives my resistance as an act of control (I suppose it is).

You're just adding a new word to your vocabulary. Your brain will map it to something depending on how you use it.

You don't need to all ways use it in the same sentence. Just treat it as any other word.

It would help to use the words in the same way, consistently. As much as you would with any word (with one meaning) you now know.

No apologies needed. I agree with you, that's why I feel it's so "(sadly) predictable". I do not see us as the same "person" but I do see her as a (primary) component of myself. If she were to disappear "tomorrow" (which I almost dread noting as I believe this is a logical possibility) I would (predictably) experience it to be a tremendous "loss". She's my "best friend", my "companion" and my "love". She's my "inspiration" and my "challenge". I would "survive", of course, and the voids created by her absence ("sudden" irrelevance) would create vacuums sucking into my experience frame a new representation for perspective to fill the voids.

In short, I imagine an experience like that would leave "me" filled with "regret". I'd most likely (start) by seeking to transition into a perspective where the symbol (I "wish"(fool myself into believing") her to be) is represented and still relative.

(thank you Chaol for humoring me)

I was hesitant to post about this.

Two days ago (the day of the above post), she nearly choked to death. The Heimlich wouldn't work because (the much too large to swallow chunk of roast beef) hadn't gotten into her windpipe, and was stuck in her esophagus and the pressure kept her from breathing. It was intense, and for a moment (after my attempts to get her to shoot it across the room had failed) I thought I might lose her (thought of Chaol"s question) and yelled for the other people at the restaurant to "CALL 911!" That moment, she stopped trying to breathe she was able to force it up and out. Much later that night, we got back from a club and she was eating her left-overs (a little, drunk) and it happened to her again (and she somehow got it out herself). She didn't even bother to wake me.

She even said "If I died, it'd be better for you". There is much more to the last few days, but it's all a little too personal for the web.

The thing is, after this onslaught of "final destination" style experiences, she seems to have changed her perspective (or at least the way I perceive her has changed). She's (finally) appearing to be interested in hearing my perspective.

Strange that, without overtly creating a "genius map", allowing the ideas to flow here (on this thread) have led me to what looks like something I've longed to experience for quite some time. Time will tell.

A genius example what worked. I have more, I will post some when I have time.

I made a random symbol (think it was a stone with some cotton and paper and some bits of carpet attached) the symbol represented "a half price shop"

(thinking food shop but I wasn't specific, I just said half price shop)


I cant remember the rules I created to be honest with everyone, but I placed it inside my girlfriends hand bag (purse for americans, i think? lol) secretly without her knowing.

A few days pass and I obviously forget.

Then my girlfriend goes to buy a new bag, and she tells me just as she walked into a shop she saw the perfect one on the shop floor without a price tag, there was a lady there, my girlfriend asked if those bags were for sale, and the seller replied

"Yes, I'm just marking these ones for half price"

She told me in excitement (It really was the perfect bag) which obviously flashed me putting the symbol of a half price shop there.

The lesson I learned from this was allow your symbol to interact with that what you want it to have an effect on.

Chaol has said that before, but when you see it like that it puts a new perspective on things.

Apologies for the poorly typed post, in a rush.

Have a brilliant 2013 to all here :)