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Anonymous Coward User ID: 18013130 United States 08/01/2012 02:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is rumors of a GAG order with regards to national security where the first time you make an official statement regarding these changes you are notified of this order on pain of jail. |
Menow User ID: 18943200 United States 08/01/2012 02:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The World's Astronomers? I don't see them commenting here. Just you. You are a back yard want to be astronomer. Thats all and you are entitled to your opionion. Right or wrong. You continue to make this up as you go along but you skipped right over the post about the MAWSON STATION. Somthings changed and the World's Gardeners have seen it. We have spoken! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20911512 I responded to that post. Do you actually think that the world's astronomers need to take time to post here that the sun is exactly where it should be? Do you actually think that if the sun was out of place in the sky, that the world's astronomers would somehow be kept quiet about it? TENS OF THOUSANDS OF THEM?? |
Miggy User ID: 19193750 United States 08/01/2012 02:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, I don't think you're crazy at all. I noticed the change in Spring/Summer of 2009. People thought I was nuts like you. And they had all kinds of reasons to explain why the sun was shining in different parts of the yard than it had been at the same time in previous years. I guess unless you experience it yourself you won't believe it. I did experience it and believe it is to blame for this intense heat and newly scorched earth over the past couple of years. BTW, tonight should be a beautiful sunset with full moon. I'm going to go to the lake, pick out a dock on the water and enjoy the show. Love, Miggy |
Menow User ID: 18943200 United States 08/01/2012 02:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My point is: do it for yourself, don't take my word for it, or anyone elses. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18013130 There is rumors of a GAG order with regards to national security where the first time you make an official statement regarding these changes you are notified of this order on pain of jail. "There is rumors..." Hilarious! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18013130 United States 08/01/2012 02:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sorry I meant relative to the POSITION of the earth in our solar system. Had to clarify that. Our subjective view would of course be different (only enough to notice the fact that the sun is setting a few degrees further north). Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18013130 ALL SKY OBJECTS would be displaced, including Polaris, which ANYONE with a camera and tripod can check. Read the post two posts above where I clarify before any of you even have a chance to point this out. Try reading a line or two further next time. "only enough to notice the fact that the sun is setting a few degrees further north." Wrong. ALL SKY OBJECTS would be out of place. They are out of place, they drifted a few degrees north. How is that wrong? You're a shill. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18013130 United States 08/01/2012 02:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My point is: do it for yourself, don't take my word for it, or anyone elses. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18013130 There is rumors of a GAG order with regards to national security where the first time you make an official statement regarding these changes you are notified of this order on pain of jail. "There is rumors..." Hilarious! You are hilarious knowing you have access to the information but SITTING HERE AND BEING A CHILD and arguing about how hilarious these rumors are. Hilarious! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16091482 United States 08/01/2012 02:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The World's Astronomers? I don't see them commenting here. Just you. You are a back yard want to be astronomer. Thats all and you are entitled to your opionion. Right or wrong. You continue to make this up as you go along but you skipped right over the post about the MAWSON STATION. Somthings changed and the World's Gardeners have seen it. We have spoken! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20911512 I responded to that post. Do you actually think that the world's astronomers need to take time to post here that the sun is exactly where it should be? Do you actually think that if the sun was out of place in the sky, that the world's astronomers would somehow be kept quiet about it? TENS OF THOUSANDS OF THEM?? Our government alone employs 200,000 people just to watch and shill people like us digging for the truth but NO WAY could they ever control the mouths of all the scientists right? Get a clue Menow. |
Menow User ID: 18943200 United States 08/01/2012 02:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Menow 18943200 You might want to stay away from "WOO" internet sites for a while. It's turning your brain to mush. Funny how you ignored one bit... REPEAT: ... anybody's ability to determine the proper location of Polaris in the night sky(and Earth's tilt) for themselves. You're right, which is why you should make a sun dial and confirm the change for yourself. I have. Here is a rough outline at this website of how the sun is setting (not made by me) [link to www.divulgence.net] Heh... as I recall, that site claims that Earth has changed its axis tilt by MANY degrees. Nice source! How is a sundial supposed to be used to check the location of Polaris? Hey genius, I said it was a rough outline not made by me of where the sun is setting in the night sky. I did not take footage of the sun dial but I confirmed my observations with many others online and even called two shops which specialize in sun dials to ask if they noticed the change, and amazingly they have. 1) The sun does not set in the night sky. 2)divulgence is not a valid source of information. 3) The names of these two shops? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 15424607 United States 08/01/2012 02:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You are absolutely correct OP...I have a new inside source that works at Mawson Station in the Antarctic, he confirmed for me two days ago that they have recorded the axis shift and are now experiencing sun and moon rise at much different coordinates than previously recorded. Quoting: siniXster It would be nice if someone confirmed this publicly. Anyone can confirm it by tracking measurements and patience.How do you think they did it back in the day. Pick up an astronomy book. this is not the only thing off astrologically, as well. The calendar is complete bunk too, and the solstices are off as well. Get out your compass and square! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18013130 United States 08/01/2012 02:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18013130 You're right, which is why you should make a sun dial and confirm the change for yourself. I have. Here is a rough outline at this website of how the sun is setting (not made by me) [link to www.divulgence.net] Heh... as I recall, that site claims that Earth has changed its axis tilt by MANY degrees. Nice source! How is a sundial supposed to be used to check the location of Polaris? Hey genius, I said it was a rough outline not made by me of where the sun is setting in the night sky. I did not take footage of the sun dial but I confirmed my observations with many others online and even called two shops which specialize in sun dials to ask if they noticed the change, and amazingly they have. 1) The sun does not set in the night sky. 2)divulgence is not a valid source of information. 3) The names of these two shops? 1. the sun does set in the night sky, and as it rises it becomes the "day sky" 2. I did not say it was. I called it a "rough estimated of the angle between sun rise and sun set" Showing nearly a 90 degree angle. 3. I called 3 years ago buddy, I don't take notes thinking some idiot is stupid enough to argue about it instead of just making a damn sun dial himself. You are all dumbed down sheep running around scream "IM AWAKE LOOK BAAAAA" |
Miggy User ID: 19193750 United States 08/01/2012 02:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it has not been as far north as it was in 20009, but its still been to far north by summer solstice. I am thinking maybe equinox is going to be early again, as it was this spring by 3 weeks. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20617767 YOU TOO?????? I have been feeling this way since early spring this year. It's as though the earth's cycle has changed by 3 months. Seasons are changing earlier than normal by about 3-4 weeks. Glad I'm not the only one. Miggy |
Menow User ID: 18943200 United States 08/01/2012 02:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Menow 18943200 ALL SKY OBJECTS would be displaced, including Polaris, which ANYONE with a camera and tripod can check. Read the post two posts above where I clarify before any of you even have a chance to point this out. Try reading a line or two further next time. "only enough to notice the fact that the sun is setting a few degrees further north." Wrong. ALL SKY OBJECTS would be out of place. They are out of place, they drifted a few degrees north. How is that wrong? You're a shill. ALL sky objects have moved north? That makes no sense at all, and you have provided no evidence at all- just your say-so against the world's astronomers. How droll. Repeat: "...including Polaris, which ANYONE with a camera and tripod can check." Why don't you make a vid showing that Polaris is no longer where it belongs? Easy as pie, unless you are wrong. |
Menow User ID: 18943200 United States 08/01/2012 02:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it has not been as far north as it was in 20009, but its still been to far north by summer solstice. I am thinking maybe equinox is going to be early again, as it was this spring by 3 weeks. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20617767 YOU TOO?????? I have been feeling this way since early spring this year. It's as though the earth's cycle has changed by 3 months. Seasons are changing earlier than normal by about 3-4 weeks. Glad I'm not the only one. Miggy The back-up trolls have arrived. Yawn. |
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Menow User ID: 18943200 United States 08/01/2012 02:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My point is: do it for yourself, don't take my word for it, or anyone elses. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18013130 There is rumors of a GAG order with regards to national security where the first time you make an official statement regarding these changes you are notified of this order on pain of jail. "There is rumors..." Hilarious! You are hilarious knowing you have access to the information but SITTING HERE AND BEING A CHILD and arguing about how hilarious these rumors are. Hilarious! Do you really believe that everything you see on the internet is valid "information"? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18013130 United States 08/01/2012 02:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it has not been as far north as it was in 20009, but its still been to far north by summer solstice. I am thinking maybe equinox is going to be early again, as it was this spring by 3 weeks. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20617767 YOU TOO?????? I have been feeling this way since early spring this year. It's as though the earth's cycle has changed by 3 months. Seasons are changing earlier than normal by about 3-4 weeks. Glad I'm not the only one. Miggy The back-up trolls have arrived. Yawn. So sad, you probably don't even know what a Sun dial is, much less how to make one. Here are some directions: Take a fucking stick, shove it in the fucking ground, plot the position of the tip of the shadow daily and if you can't figure the rest out I can't fuckin help ya buddy. Simple math. |
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Waterbug User ID: 1295673 United States 08/01/2012 02:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I asked you first. You answered a question with a question. Very poor form.. 'How can the telescopes continue to be aligned exactly as they were before the shift, as if nothing has happened.. unless.. somebody is fibbing'.. ? Your question contains a logical fallacy. There is no "somebody" who is the sole arbiter of such things. Answer: Nothing has happened. And: You mean unless EVERYBODY IN THE ASTRONOMICAL WORLD is fibbing. Question: Not bloody likely, now is it? Nothing has happened..? The axis shift is acknowledged.. Do you refute that..? You are confused. The question is pretty simple. Leave the 'somebody' part out if it's too hard for you to parse. 'How can the telescopes continue to be aligned exactly as they were before the shift, 'as if' nothing has happened'.. ? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18013130 United States 08/01/2012 02:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18013130 Read the post two posts above where I clarify before any of you even have a chance to point this out. Try reading a line or two further next time. "only enough to notice the fact that the sun is setting a few degrees further north." Wrong. ALL SKY OBJECTS would be out of place. They are out of place, they drifted a few degrees north. How is that wrong? You're a shill. ALL sky objects have moved north? That makes no sense at all, and you have provided no evidence at all- just your say-so against the world's astronomers. How droll. Repeat: "...including Polaris, which ANYONE with a camera and tripod can check." Why don't you make a vid showing that Polaris is no longer where it belongs? Easy as pie, unless you are wrong. Well that depends on your subjective location buddy, but you probably dont even know what that means. And regarding polaris, go ahead and google "Polaris time delay photo shows movement" |
Menow User ID: 18943200 United States 08/01/2012 02:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it has not been as far north as it was in 20009, but its still been to far north by summer solstice. I am thinking maybe equinox is going to be early again, as it was this spring by 3 weeks. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20617767 YOU TOO?????? I have been feeling this way since early spring this year. It's as though the earth's cycle has changed by 3 months. Seasons are changing earlier than normal by about 3-4 weeks. Glad I'm not the only one. Miggy The back-up trolls have arrived. Yawn. So sad, you probably don't even know what a Sun dial is, much less how to make one. Here are some directions: Take a fucking stick, shove it in the fucking ground, plot the position of the tip of the shadow daily and if you can't figure the rest out I can't fuckin help ya buddy. Simple math. I bow to your superior knowledge. Show your experiment proving the sun to be out of place and show your math. It's your claim- you have the floor. |
ExoPoliChick (OP) User ID: 12909685 Canada 08/01/2012 02:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, Quoting: Miggy I don't think you're crazy at all. I noticed the change in Spring/Summer of 2009. People thought I was nuts like you. And they had all kinds of reasons to explain why the sun was shining in different parts of the yard than it had been at the same time in previous years. I guess unless you experience it yourself you won't believe it. I did experience it and believe it is to blame for this intense heat and newly scorched earth over the past couple of years. BTW, tonight should be a beautiful sunset with full moon. I'm going to go to the lake, pick out a dock on the water and enjoy the show. Love, Miggy ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Resident Led Zeppelin Expert (ask me anything!) Traveler of both time and space Fuck Trudeau. mRNA-Free and Proud. "The essence of the independent mind lies not in what it thinks, but in how it thinks.' ~ Chris Hitchens |
ExoPoliChick (OP) User ID: 12909685 Canada 08/01/2012 02:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | double post Last Edited by Ozone Baby on 08/01/2012 02:52 PM ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Resident Led Zeppelin Expert (ask me anything!) Traveler of both time and space Fuck Trudeau. mRNA-Free and Proud. "The essence of the independent mind lies not in what it thinks, but in how it thinks.' ~ Chris Hitchens |
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Anglo-Saxon User ID: 20641131 Greece 08/01/2012 02:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've noticed the exact same thing I marked where the sun set on the horizon same day every week and indeed it is Slightly moving( figuratively speaking off course) done it for a few years now, is it just earths tilt slightly changing? Any ideas on explanation? Last Edited by Anglo-Saxon on 08/01/2012 02:51 PM "I think one of the reasons that we like conspiracy theories is I think that we like to feel like there is a group of people who are so smart and powerful that they can pull the wool over an entire country or in fact even an entire world's eyes. That certainly makes us feel like somehow we're protected, even if it's not in our best interest" |
Menow User ID: 18943200 United States 08/01/2012 02:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Menow 18943200 "only enough to notice the fact that the sun is setting a few degrees further north." Wrong. ALL SKY OBJECTS would be out of place. They are out of place, they drifted a few degrees north. How is that wrong? You're a shill. ALL sky objects have moved north? That makes no sense at all, and you have provided no evidence at all- just your say-so against the world's astronomers. How droll. Repeat: "...including Polaris, which ANYONE with a camera and tripod can check." Why don't you make a vid showing that Polaris is no longer where it belongs? Easy as pie, unless you are wrong. Well that depends on your subjective location buddy, but you probably dont even know what that means. And regarding polaris, go ahead and google "Polaris time delay photo shows movement" Nope. It makes no difference as long as you have a clear view of Polaris. And... hint: Polaris is not exactly at the NCP, so yes there will always be movement. So how much movement of Polaris do you claim is taking place, as opposed to how much is normal? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1667343 United States 08/01/2012 02:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18013130 Read the post two posts above where I clarify before any of you even have a chance to point this out. Try reading a line or two further next time. "only enough to notice the fact that the sun is setting a few degrees further north." Wrong. ALL SKY OBJECTS would be out of place. They are out of place, they drifted a few degrees north. How is that wrong? You're a shill. ALL sky objects have moved north? That makes no sense at all, and you have provided no evidence at all- just your say-so against the world's astronomers. How droll. Repeat: "...including Polaris, which ANYONE with a camera and tripod can check." Why don't you make a vid showing that Polaris is no longer where it belongs? Easy as pie, unless you are wrong. Well ths is going to sound silly but to me, Orion looked like it was 'higher' in the sky than it used to be (last winter, december 2011 compared to december 2010 for instance). So when I stand on my driveway facing south and have to crane my neck a little more to see it... that would make it more 'North' right? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18013130 United States 08/01/2012 02:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is the first link I could find, its zetatalk but who cares it has the photos thats all that matters, not gonna search all day for you fucks. POLARIS OBVIOUS MOVEMENT IN LONG EXPOSURE SHOTs: [link to www.zetatalk.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18013130 United States 08/01/2012 02:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18013130 They are out of place, they drifted a few degrees north. How is that wrong? You're a shill. ALL sky objects have moved north? That makes no sense at all, and you have provided no evidence at all- just your say-so against the world's astronomers. How droll. Repeat: "...including Polaris, which ANYONE with a camera and tripod can check." Why don't you make a vid showing that Polaris is no longer where it belongs? Easy as pie, unless you are wrong. Well that depends on your subjective location buddy, but you probably dont even know what that means. And regarding polaris, go ahead and google "Polaris time delay photo shows movement" Nope. It makes no difference as long as you have a clear view of Polaris. And... hint: Polaris is not exactly at the NCP, so yes there will always be movement. So how much movement of Polaris do you claim is taking place, as opposed to how much is normal? The movement of polaris is SO SLOW that it takes millions of years. Why do you think it is called the NORTH STAR? it USED TO line up directly with our north pole, but not anymore. See the link I posted above. |
Miggy User ID: 19193750 United States 08/01/2012 02:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So there has to be some math that I learned a long time ago (geometry or trig I suspect) to show how a small change in angle will appear to be much larger the farther away an object is... the change in arc? Quoting: tandym Thank you Tandy. That is a very good way of making people understand what the OP means. There are too many people on here who have noticed it over the past 3-4 years for us all to be wrong. And besides even NASA said our axis was changed by the 2 8.+ EQ's in China and Haiti within that time. Remember when all the compasses were going crazy but people thought GLPers were nuts? It was only AFTER that we found out places like Tampa were moving their airport runways, birds started dropping out of the sky and we were told the earth had tilted "slightly". Well, slightly obviously was enough to cause the sunbeams to cause drought and scorch us all to death. |