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Best El Hierro Thread On GLP - Canary Islands - ACTIVITY HAS RETURNED - AGAIN!

 
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For other scientific minds here. There is a triangulation going on between the carribean-puerto rico area-azores area-and canary islands area.
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they reckon a new ring of fire will open up in the Atlantic soon, as the planet returns to having a single Pangea like continent, in 250 million years time.

*soon in Geologic time. Could be millions of years in the future. The chances of it happening NOW are extremely small, we'd be VERY unlucky.
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locals reported a new EQ

here's the graph:

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Great Article On This Potential Threat.

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An East Coast, Underwater-Landslide Source of Giant Waves

Tsunamis cause the sea to begin "tossing" when they mound up over the shallow continental shelf as they move toward shore. And they often cause "roaring" when they begin to overtop the coastline itself.

Returning to the threat to Atlantic shores from tsunamis originating in the Canary islands, note that six geoscientists have just published a paper on the subject that indicates that this threat is much greater than inferred by previous studies. Sebastian Krastel And Others (Jour. Geophysical Research, v. 106, no. B3, 3110/2001) surveyed the submarine flanks of the Canary islands with the GLORIA long-range side-scan sonar system, bathymetric multibeam systems, and sediment echo sounders. They identified twelve geologically young (less than two million years old) giant landslides, and several older ones. Most slides were on the flanks of La Palma, E1 Hierro, and Tenerife. The ages of the five youngest slides range from 13 to possibly 536 thousand years old. The estimated volumes of these slides are huge, ranging between 25 to 1000 cubic kilometers (16-620 cubic miles).
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For other scientific minds here. There is a triangulation going on between the carribean-puerto rico area-azores area-and canary islands area.
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they reckon a new ring of fire will open up in the Atlantic soon, as the planet returns to having a single Pangea like continent, in 250 million years time.

*soon in Geologic time. Could be millions of years in the future. The chances of it happening NOW are extremely small, we'd be VERY unlucky.
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the Canary Islands are located directly on the
fissure-line of two major continental plates.
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Can anyone help me find a link to the NOAA Tsunami warning system for the east coast of us? I am costal and would be in harms way should something of significance happen, I have a disabled child to protect. hf
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I don't think the USA east coast has a specific tsunami warning system...however.........
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El hierro is now directly top of canary island hotspot which one is maybe deepest hotspot in the world. Its magma cames from lover levels maybe from earths hearth. So there is coming really big magma plume now.
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From the declination, there seems to be a slight "tanking" the energy accumulated. I'm at a loss at what this might mean, maybe it found a crack where the magma can rise while not doing as much pressure?

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Sorry if double post, it looks really terrifying (starts from Sep 28)

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Scientist biggest fear is that magma will found another route and ofcourse it is then only small eruption. Fear is that same time magma launch old fault line and there is massive earthquake with landslides....
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O.K., look:
here is the feared scenario: the volcano on the island
of El Hierro is forecast to erupt. this in itself is
no big deal.
the problem is that there is fear that this activity on
the island of El Hierro might trigger the catastrophic
landslide on the island of La Palma, which is 41 miles
away; this La Palma landslide in turn is expected
to generate the mega-tsunami that will decimate the east coast of the U.S.
cahpeesh

now, your normal garden variety tsunami (like the 2004 Indian Ocean)
is generated when a section of the earth's crust fractures
and thrusts upwards 6 feet or so along a 100 mile length
of the undersea; this thrusting up of land displaces a
massive amount of water which become the tsunami wave-train.

the problem of La Palma is that all of the fractures through
half of the island are already formed and poised to cut loose
with just so much as a little bump, wherein one half of
the island will slide into the atlantic. the problem is:
the land-mass of the island of La Palma rises to 7,700 ft. above
sea level, and half of this island sliding into the ocean
is one huge landslide (that's a lotta rock).
it is this landslide, and the amount of water displacement
it causes, that is expected to generate the mega-tsunami.
(target: U.S. east coast)

and, all of this scenario is referred to as: the La Palma Syndrome
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O.K., look:
here is the feared scenario: the volcano on the island
of El Hierro is forecast to erupt. this in itself is
no big deal.
the problem is that there is fear that this activity on
the island of El Hierro might trigger the catastrophic
landslide on the island of La Palma, which is 41 miles
away; this La Palma landslide in turn is expected
to generate the mega-tsunami that will decimate the east coast of the U.S.
cahpeesh

now, your normal garden variety tsunami (like the 2004 Indian Ocean)
is generated when a section of the earth's crust fractures
and thrusts upwards 6 feet or so along a 100 mile length
of the undersea; this thrusting up of land displaces a
massive amount of water which become the tsunami wave-train.

the problem of La Palma is that all of the fractures through
half of the island are already formed and poised to cut loose
with just so much as a little bump, wherein one half of
the island will slide into the atlantic. the problem is:
the land-mass of the island of La Palma rises to 7,700 ft. above
sea level, and half of this island sliding into the ocean
is one huge landslide (that's a lotta rock).
it is this landslide, and the amount of water displacement
it causes, that is expected to generate the mega-tsunami.
(target: U.S. east coast)

and, all of this scenario is referred to as: the La Palma Syndrome
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2019441




EVERY island in that region has catastrophic landslides, NOT just La Palma, and they happen during eruptions, and guess what? we're on the brink of an eruption at El Hierro.

you're TOO fixated on La Palma.

Although, there is slim possibility I suppose that a big enough quake at El Hierro, to kick off the action, may just spawn TWO tsunamis, one from El Hierro, and one from the unstable La Palma.

you need to stop being so fixated JUST on La Palma, and open your mind to ALL possibilities.
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Posted on Q's thread also.

The island of El Hierro has curved 3.5 cm.since the crisis began.

"The pressure of the magma in the basement of El Hierro has not only meant that the island has been shaking more than 8,600 times since mid-July, but has also domed, literally, the island's 3.5 inches, according to data released today by National Geographic Institute (IGN).

This deformation of the ground-imperceptible to the eye, has occurred because the area east of the island is moving to the northeast and the far West is moving to the Northwest.

In the words of the responsible IGN teams deployed on the ground, the youngest of the Canary Islands, in geological terms, is convex as a result of this episode. "

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O.K., look:
here is the feared scenario: the volcano on the island
of El Hierro is forecast to erupt. this in itself is
no big deal.
the problem is that there is fear that this activity on
the island of El Hierro might trigger the catastrophic
landslide on the island of La Palma, which is 41 miles
away; this La Palma landslide in turn is expected
to generate the mega-tsunami that will decimate the east coast of the U.S.
cahpeesh

now, your normal garden variety tsunami (like the 2004 Indian Ocean)
is generated when a section of the earth's crust fractures
and thrusts upwards 6 feet or so along a 100 mile length
of the undersea; this thrusting up of land displaces a
massive amount of water which become the tsunami wave-train.

the problem of La Palma is that all of the fractures through
half of the island are already formed and poised to cut loose
with just so much as a little bump, wherein one half of
the island will slide into the atlantic. the problem is:
the land-mass of the island of La Palma rises to 7,700 ft. above
sea level, and half of this island sliding into the ocean
is one huge landslide (that's a lotta rock).
it is this landslide, and the amount of water displacement
it causes, that is expected to generate the mega-tsunami.
(target: U.S. east coast)

and, all of this scenario is referred to as: the La Palma Syndrome
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2019441




EVERY island in that region has catastrophic landslides, NOT just La Palma, and they happen during eruptions, and guess what? we're on the brink of an eruption at El Hierro.

you're TOO fixated on La Palma.

Although, there is slim possibility I suppose that a big enough quake at El Hierro, to kick off the action, may just spawn TWO tsunamis, one from El Hierro, and one from the unstable La Palma.

you need to stop being so fixated JUST on La Palma, and open your mind to ALL possibilities.
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scientists are concern that the conditions on the
island of La Palma could cause half the island to
slide into the Atlantic ocean, causing a mega-tsunami
that would devastate the east coast of the U.S.
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I don't think its venting. I think it's getting too stressed and its running into fresh unbroken rock. The fault lines or the magma chambers are nearing the end...either theres nowhere left for the fault line to spread because of strong baslatic resistance or the chambers are full and its to packed to allow anymore lava in. This is normal. We will soon see larger quakes...here and there...where the weakest tubes expand just a wee bit more. With every one of those larger quakes we're going to see massively increased energy accumulation...until a surface breach is located. There is no drop in energy accumulation...just a slight slowing of growth. This is all my opinion...no link no proof...just been watching thinh for 2 months now and others before it. I predict a 7 or greater is coming...but I dont now if that will be enough to break this loose for the tsunami event.
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If you look at the data of seismisity is cuts across the sout-west side of the island. Looking the photo the area already looks unstable. Somewhere on this thread is a link under IGN which shows a pic of the seismicity. I can't click back to find the link right now but the original op has it.
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HAH! found it on pg. 41

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If La Palma lets go, it isn't just those on the East coast of the Americas - North, South and all points in between - who need to panic. The Tsunami will radiate out from the Canary Islands and devastate the Atlantic coast areas of West Africa and West Europe. Imagine what it will be like as it heads up the Irish Sea and the English Channel, both converging waterways. The wave will grow in height and power, then burst into the North Sea, first from the South, then from the North, around the top of Scotland. The east coast of Britain, Scandinavia, Holland, The Rhine Valley.... Good, eh?

Not to put too fine a point on it... We are all in deep shit! And there will not be enough resources available - if there are any left at all - to come to the rescue. The survivors will be relying on each other.

I'm thirty miles from the coast, but it wouldn't surprise me if I end up with a beach-side property! Beats moving, I suppose.

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" as it heads up the Irish Sea and the English Channel, both converging waterways"


It will hardly travel up the channel and certain parts of UK orientation and coastline will prevent it from travelling further inland.


For example as the direction of the wave travels up Anglesy will bear the brunt and in doing so protect most of the North West such as Li verpool and Blackpool

Carlisle will suffer badly as would the Isle of Man and the south coast.
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It's normal that people are scared but there is no danger. After an eruption the lava advances at a few meters per hour and you can easily take photographs as it descends."


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Musicalgroup "LOS SEISMOS" from Canary island
Song = " THE EARTHQUAKE "

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funny TODAY
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Interesting....

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Almost 4 hrs since the last EQ of 3.3!!!!!


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no it's not: 1101055 30/09/2011 17:48:03 27.6646 -18.0650 20 2.1 mbLg SW FRONTERA.IHI [+]
1101052 30/09/2011 16:36:28 27.6778 -18.0808 16 1.7 mbLg SW FRONTERA.IHI [+]
1101051 30/09/2011 16:10:48 27.6609 -18.0619 17 1.8 mbLg SW FRONTERA.IHI [+]
1101050 30/09/2011 15:57:28 27.6688 -18.0884 16 2.0 mbLg SW FRONTERA.IHI [+]
1101049 30/09/2011 15:44:36 27.6432 -18.0827 15 1.5 mbLg SW FRONTERA.IHI [+]
1101043 30/09/2011 15:38:11 27.6423 -18.0844 15 3.3 mbLg SW FRONTERA.IHI [+]
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Almost 4 hrs since the last EQ of 3.3!!!!!


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no it's not: 1101055 30/09/2011 17:48:03 27.6646 -18.0650 20 2.1 mbLg SW FRONTERA.IHI [+]
1101052 30/09/2011 16:36:28 27.6778 -18.0808 16 1.7 mbLg SW FRONTERA.IHI [+]
1101051 30/09/2011 16:10:48 27.6609 -18.0619 17 1.8 mbLg SW FRONTERA.IHI [+]
1101050 30/09/2011 15:57:28 27.6688 -18.0884 16 2.0 mbLg SW FRONTERA.IHI [+]
1101049 30/09/2011 15:44:36 27.6432 -18.0827 15 1.5 mbLg SW FRONTERA.IHI [+]
1101043 30/09/2011 15:38:11 27.6423 -18.0844 15 3.3 mbLg SW FRONTERA.IHI [+]
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I don't see them in here...

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Could the wave continue on into the Golf of Mexico?hf
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I can't embed this but here is the simulation -

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How large are the red ones? 4 , 5 or what?
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The colours determine the depth, red are quakes <2.5km.
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All discussions I have heard about to date ignore eastern Canada haha.
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Have friends on PEI.

Anybody know how effected it would be?
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Considering PEI is protected by Nova Scotia.. probably not badly.

I love how on just about every page someone posts information about a possible El Hierro/La Palma tsunami as if its new and never heard of before lol. Seriously people, just click one/two/three pages back. You will see the exact same post you're about to make. :S
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Check out this 4-d simulation I found. (Sorry if this has been posted already. I haven't been able to read all threads on this thing.)

It's a little long, but it shows the EQ depth and direction of movement underneath the island as the graph spins around. Very interesting.

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That is amazing, you can see how the lava is moving underground. So, it's moving south as the quakes are getting deeper and larger, apparently not even under the island anymore. Could the backing up and building pressure perhaps form a new landmass south of the island with the eruption?

ntlatp - thanks for your video too, that really puts things in perspective!

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