Best El Hierro Thread On GLP - Canary Islands - ACTIVITY HAS RETURNED - AGAIN! | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2362760 United Kingdom 09/30/2011 11:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For other scientific minds here. There is a triangulation going on between the carribean-puerto rico area-azores area-and canary islands area. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1512435 they reckon a new ring of fire will open up in the Atlantic soon, as the planet returns to having a single Pangea like continent, in 250 million years time. *soon in Geologic time. Could be millions of years in the future. The chances of it happening NOW are extremely small, we'd be VERY unlucky. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1512435 United States 09/30/2011 12:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Great Article On This Potential Threat. [link to www.huttoncommentaries.com] An East Coast, Underwater-Landslide Source of Giant Waves Tsunamis cause the sea to begin "tossing" when they mound up over the shallow continental shelf as they move toward shore. And they often cause "roaring" when they begin to overtop the coastline itself. Returning to the threat to Atlantic shores from tsunamis originating in the Canary islands, note that six geoscientists have just published a paper on the subject that indicates that this threat is much greater than inferred by previous studies. Sebastian Krastel And Others (Jour. Geophysical Research, v. 106, no. B3, 3110/2001) surveyed the submarine flanks of the Canary islands with the GLORIA long-range side-scan sonar system, bathymetric multibeam systems, and sediment echo sounders. They identified twelve geologically young (less than two million years old) giant landslides, and several older ones. Most slides were on the flanks of La Palma, E1 Hierro, and Tenerife. The ages of the five youngest slides range from 13 to possibly 536 thousand years old. The estimated volumes of these slides are huge, ranging between 25 to 1000 cubic kilometers (16-620 cubic miles). |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2019441 United States 09/30/2011 12:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For other scientific minds here. There is a triangulation going on between the carribean-puerto rico area-azores area-and canary islands area. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1512435 they reckon a new ring of fire will open up in the Atlantic soon, as the planet returns to having a single Pangea like continent, in 250 million years time. *soon in Geologic time. Could be millions of years in the future. The chances of it happening NOW are extremely small, we'd be VERY unlucky. the Canary Islands are located directly on the fissure-line of two major continental plates. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1679900 United States 09/30/2011 12:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can anyone help me find a link to the NOAA Tsunami warning system for the east coast of us? I am costal and would be in harms way should something of significance happen, I have a disabled child to protect. I don't think the USA east coast has a specific tsunami warning system...however......... [link to www.myreporter.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 2376150 Portugal 09/30/2011 12:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From the declination, there seems to be a slight "tanking" the energy accumulated. I'm at a loss at what this might mean, maybe it found a crack where the magma can rise while not doing as much pressure? [link to www.01.ign.es] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 2019441 United States 09/30/2011 01:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | O.K., look: here is the feared scenario: the volcano on the island of El Hierro is forecast to erupt. this in itself is no big deal. the problem is that there is fear that this activity on the island of El Hierro might trigger the catastrophic landslide on the island of La Palma, which is 41 miles away; this La Palma landslide in turn is expected to generate the mega-tsunami that will decimate the east coast of the U.S. cahpeesh now, your normal garden variety tsunami (like the 2004 Indian Ocean) is generated when a section of the earth's crust fractures and thrusts upwards 6 feet or so along a 100 mile length of the undersea; this thrusting up of land displaces a massive amount of water which become the tsunami wave-train. the problem of La Palma is that all of the fractures through half of the island are already formed and poised to cut loose with just so much as a little bump, wherein one half of the island will slide into the atlantic. the problem is: the land-mass of the island of La Palma rises to 7,700 ft. above sea level, and half of this island sliding into the ocean is one huge landslide (that's a lotta rock). it is this landslide, and the amount of water displacement it causes, that is expected to generate the mega-tsunami. (target: U.S. east coast) and, all of this scenario is referred to as: the La Palma Syndrome |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2362760 United Kingdom 09/30/2011 01:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | O.K., look: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2019441 here is the feared scenario: the volcano on the island of El Hierro is forecast to erupt. this in itself is no big deal. the problem is that there is fear that this activity on the island of El Hierro might trigger the catastrophic landslide on the island of La Palma, which is 41 miles away; this La Palma landslide in turn is expected to generate the mega-tsunami that will decimate the east coast of the U.S. cahpeesh now, your normal garden variety tsunami (like the 2004 Indian Ocean) is generated when a section of the earth's crust fractures and thrusts upwards 6 feet or so along a 100 mile length of the undersea; this thrusting up of land displaces a massive amount of water which become the tsunami wave-train. the problem of La Palma is that all of the fractures through half of the island are already formed and poised to cut loose with just so much as a little bump, wherein one half of the island will slide into the atlantic. the problem is: the land-mass of the island of La Palma rises to 7,700 ft. above sea level, and half of this island sliding into the ocean is one huge landslide (that's a lotta rock). it is this landslide, and the amount of water displacement it causes, that is expected to generate the mega-tsunami. (target: U.S. east coast) and, all of this scenario is referred to as: the La Palma Syndrome EVERY island in that region has catastrophic landslides, NOT just La Palma, and they happen during eruptions, and guess what? we're on the brink of an eruption at El Hierro. you're TOO fixated on La Palma. Although, there is slim possibility I suppose that a big enough quake at El Hierro, to kick off the action, may just spawn TWO tsunamis, one from El Hierro, and one from the unstable La Palma. you need to stop being so fixated JUST on La Palma, and open your mind to ALL possibilities. |
IndigoGirl User ID: 1516110 United States 09/30/2011 02:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Posted on Q's thread also. The island of El Hierro has curved 3.5 cm.since the crisis began. "The pressure of the magma in the basement of El Hierro has not only meant that the island has been shaking more than 8,600 times since mid-July, but has also domed, literally, the island's 3.5 inches, according to data released today by National Geographic Institute (IGN). This deformation of the ground-imperceptible to the eye, has occurred because the area east of the island is moving to the northeast and the far West is moving to the Northwest. In the words of the responsible IGN teams deployed on the ground, the youngest of the Canary Islands, in geological terms, is convex as a result of this episode. " [link to translate.googleusercontent.com] “I know who I WAS when I got up this morning, but I think I must have been changed several times since then” |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2019441 United States 09/30/2011 02:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | O.K., look: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2019441 here is the feared scenario: the volcano on the island of El Hierro is forecast to erupt. this in itself is no big deal. the problem is that there is fear that this activity on the island of El Hierro might trigger the catastrophic landslide on the island of La Palma, which is 41 miles away; this La Palma landslide in turn is expected to generate the mega-tsunami that will decimate the east coast of the U.S. cahpeesh now, your normal garden variety tsunami (like the 2004 Indian Ocean) is generated when a section of the earth's crust fractures and thrusts upwards 6 feet or so along a 100 mile length of the undersea; this thrusting up of land displaces a massive amount of water which become the tsunami wave-train. the problem of La Palma is that all of the fractures through half of the island are already formed and poised to cut loose with just so much as a little bump, wherein one half of the island will slide into the atlantic. the problem is: the land-mass of the island of La Palma rises to 7,700 ft. above sea level, and half of this island sliding into the ocean is one huge landslide (that's a lotta rock). it is this landslide, and the amount of water displacement it causes, that is expected to generate the mega-tsunami. (target: U.S. east coast) and, all of this scenario is referred to as: the La Palma Syndrome EVERY island in that region has catastrophic landslides, NOT just La Palma, and they happen during eruptions, and guess what? we're on the brink of an eruption at El Hierro. you're TOO fixated on La Palma. Although, there is slim possibility I suppose that a big enough quake at El Hierro, to kick off the action, may just spawn TWO tsunamis, one from El Hierro, and one from the unstable La Palma. you need to stop being so fixated JUST on La Palma, and open your mind to ALL possibilities. scientists are concern that the conditions on the island of La Palma could cause half the island to slide into the Atlantic ocean, causing a mega-tsunami that would devastate the east coast of the U.S. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1672648 09/30/2011 02:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't think its venting. I think it's getting too stressed and its running into fresh unbroken rock. The fault lines or the magma chambers are nearing the end...either theres nowhere left for the fault line to spread because of strong baslatic resistance or the chambers are full and its to packed to allow anymore lava in. This is normal. We will soon see larger quakes...here and there...where the weakest tubes expand just a wee bit more. With every one of those larger quakes we're going to see massively increased energy accumulation...until a surface breach is located. There is no drop in energy accumulation...just a slight slowing of growth. This is all my opinion...no link no proof...just been watching thinh for 2 months now and others before it. I predict a 7 or greater is coming...but I dont now if that will be enough to break this loose for the tsunami event. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1512435 United States 09/30/2011 02:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you look at the data of seismisity is cuts across the sout-west side of the island. Looking the photo the area already looks unstable. Somewhere on this thread is a link under IGN which shows a pic of the seismicity. I can't click back to find the link right now but the original op has it. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 2004828 United Kingdom 09/30/2011 02:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If La Palma lets go, it isn't just those on the East coast of the Americas - North, South and all points in between - who need to panic. The Tsunami will radiate out from the Canary Islands and devastate the Atlantic coast areas of West Africa and West Europe. Imagine what it will be like as it heads up the Irish Sea and the English Channel, both converging waterways. The wave will grow in height and power, then burst into the North Sea, first from the South, then from the North, around the top of Scotland. The east coast of Britain, Scandinavia, Holland, The Rhine Valley.... Good, eh? Not to put too fine a point on it... We are all in deep shit! And there will not be enough resources available - if there are any left at all - to come to the rescue. The survivors will be relying on each other. I'm thirty miles from the coast, but it wouldn't surprise me if I end up with a beach-side property! Beats moving, I suppose. Anybody know any good jokes? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1040464 United Kingdom 09/30/2011 02:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | " as it heads up the Irish Sea and the English Channel, both converging waterways" It will hardly travel up the channel and certain parts of UK orientation and coastline will prevent it from travelling further inland. For example as the direction of the wave travels up Anglesy will bear the brunt and in doing so protect most of the North West such as Li verpool and Blackpool Carlisle will suffer badly as would the Isle of Man and the south coast. |
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oddo User ID: 1948886 Spain 09/30/2011 02:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Musicalgroup "LOS SEISMOS" from Canary island Song = " THE EARTHQUAKE " [link to www.youtube.com] funny TODAY |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 2373170 Portugal 09/30/2011 03:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | no it's not: 1101055 30/09/2011 17:48:03 27.6646 -18.0650 20 2.1 mbLg SW FRONTERA.IHI [+] 1101052 30/09/2011 16:36:28 27.6778 -18.0808 16 1.7 mbLg SW FRONTERA.IHI [+] 1101051 30/09/2011 16:10:48 27.6609 -18.0619 17 1.8 mbLg SW FRONTERA.IHI [+] 1101050 30/09/2011 15:57:28 27.6688 -18.0884 16 2.0 mbLg SW FRONTERA.IHI [+] 1101049 30/09/2011 15:44:36 27.6432 -18.0827 15 1.5 mbLg SW FRONTERA.IHI [+] 1101043 30/09/2011 15:38:11 27.6423 -18.0844 15 3.3 mbLg SW FRONTERA.IHI [+] [link to www.01.ign.es] |
Cisco805 User ID: 1355835 United States 09/30/2011 03:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | no it's not: 1101055 30/09/2011 17:48:03 27.6646 -18.0650 20 2.1 mbLg SW FRONTERA.IHI [+] 1101052 30/09/2011 16:36:28 27.6778 -18.0808 16 1.7 mbLg SW FRONTERA.IHI [+] 1101051 30/09/2011 16:10:48 27.6609 -18.0619 17 1.8 mbLg SW FRONTERA.IHI [+] 1101050 30/09/2011 15:57:28 27.6688 -18.0884 16 2.0 mbLg SW FRONTERA.IHI [+] 1101049 30/09/2011 15:44:36 27.6432 -18.0827 15 1.5 mbLg SW FRONTERA.IHI [+] 1101043 30/09/2011 15:38:11 27.6423 -18.0844 15 3.3 mbLg SW FRONTERA.IHI [+] [link to www.01.ign.es] I don't see them in here... [link to www.emsc-csem.org] |
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Upsy Daisy User ID: 2153722 United Kingdom 09/30/2011 04:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The colours determine the depth, red are quakes <2.5km. [link to www.avcan.org] What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2374951 Canada 09/30/2011 04:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All discussions I have heard about to date ignore eastern Canada haha. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1578937 Have friends on PEI. Anybody know how effected it would be? Considering PEI is protected by Nova Scotia.. probably not badly. I love how on just about every page someone posts information about a possible El Hierro/La Palma tsunami as if its new and never heard of before lol. Seriously people, just click one/two/three pages back. You will see the exact same post you're about to make. :S |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1301827 United States 09/30/2011 04:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Check out this 4-d simulation I found. (Sorry if this has been posted already. I haven't been able to read all threads on this thing.) It's a little long, but it shows the EQ depth and direction of movement underneath the island as the graph spins around. Very interesting. |
XanaduDWI User ID: 1248260 United States 09/30/2011 04:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That is amazing, you can see how the lava is moving underground. So, it's moving south as the quakes are getting deeper and larger, apparently not even under the island anymore. Could the backing up and building pressure perhaps form a new landmass south of the island with the eruption? ntlatp - thanks for your video too, that really puts things in perspective! Last Edited by XanaduDWI on 09/30/2011 04:23 PM |