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Anonymous Coward User ID: 17418121 Ireland 06/25/2012 02:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Significant earthquake precursor signal detected on 06/25/12 at 1625utc/1225est. Possible 6+. Quoting: El Quisqueyano Radio Direction Finder has signal coming in East of France from somewhere out in the Northern, Mid to Southern portions of the Pacific plate to Alaska, Canada and Chile. All who live anywhere in the vicinity of this line trajectory should be wary next 5 hours. Have escape plan ready and seek open terrain in the event of felt tremor. Secure most of your heavy objects and belongings around your home. Namaste, Hopefully I am wrong. Or it hits an unpopulated area. Japan is also a likely target. Be wary. Also Possible threat to regions around Iran, Turkey, Greece, Italy, Mediterranean, PNG to Tonga Areas and Spain. Any change on this information? |
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shenue User ID: 5263313 United States 06/25/2012 03:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Update 25/06 – 18:55 UTC - Seismicity is calming considerably the last couple of hours. It seems that the volcano has listened to the Pevolca board . - 121 M+2 earthquakes until 17:37 UTC today (149 total M+1.4) (This does not take into account the probably hundreds of earthquakes below M1.4 which were registered in 2011, but are only visible now for the IGN and INVOLCAN volcanologists). [link to earthquake-report.com] Last Edited by shenue on 06/25/2012 03:37 PM Watch your thoughts; they become words. Watch your words; they become actions. Watch your actions; they become habits. Watch your habits; they become your character. Watch your character; it becomes your destiny. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18230679 United Kingdom 06/25/2012 03:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Gizzie Right, go back through the thread, Idgits posted the chart, I reposted to note the jump, then all of sudden, they downscaled chart and removed quakes, so they must of downscaled that chart themselves, as the computer generated one was there one minute, then the downscaled one one appeared the next, what I'm saying is, why would a computer generated chart show a big jump, and then backtrack itself to show a downscale with quakes missing and then for it to come back again to show the jump again, Ign must of downscaled the chart themselves, as the computer generated ones wouldn't do that if it already showed the jump. You have just echoed what I said. Like I said, the charts are looked at by seismologists, the data WILL change, I.E.- IGN changes the data. They can't hide data when the seismo's are there for everyone to see. But THEY know how to interperet it. Now all of those who accuse them of altering data only have to work out the seismos to see for themselves what has been and what hasn't. Please stop...you have no idea how wrong you are. Of course they change data mildly to reflect accuracy. BUT, these agencies doctor information to downplay the events. REPEATEDLY Of course the government play down events there that is obvious. But as no one on here knows how to interperet the seismographs we would be ignorant to accuse them of altering quake data. It is all there for people to see, learn how to interperet it and see for yourself is all I am saying. No one can accuse the seismologists of altering data when no one knows how to calculate it. bullshit argument 'you don't know so we won't show you' |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18515358 United States 06/25/2012 03:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18124769 You have just echoed what I said. Like I said, the charts are looked at by seismologists, the data WILL change, I.E.- IGN changes the data. They can't hide data when the seismo's are there for everyone to see. But THEY know how to interperet it. Now all of those who accuse them of altering data only have to work out the seismos to see for themselves what has been and what hasn't. Please stop...you have no idea how wrong you are. Of course they change data mildly to reflect accuracy. BUT, these agencies doctor information to downplay the events. REPEATEDLY Of course the government play down events there that is obvious. But as no one on here knows how to interperet the seismographs we would be ignorant to accuse them of altering quake data. It is all there for people to see, learn how to interperet it and see for yourself is all I am saying. No one can accuse the seismologists of altering data when no one knows how to calculate it. bullshit argument 'you don't know so we won't show you' How is it a bs argument ? Instead of posters here being adamant that data is being altered to downplay it then why don't they learn how to read the seismo's and report back when they think something is up ? How can people comment on a job they know nothing at all about ? |
shenue User ID: 5263313 United States 06/25/2012 03:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Idgits Please stop...you have no idea how wrong you are. Of course they change data mildly to reflect accuracy. BUT, these agencies doctor information to downplay the events. REPEATEDLY Of course the government play down events there that is obvious. But as no one on here knows how to interperet the seismographs we would be ignorant to accuse them of altering quake data. It is all there for people to see, learn how to interperet it and see for yourself is all I am saying. No one can accuse the seismologists of altering data when no one knows how to calculate it. bullshit argument 'you don't know so we won't show you' How is it a bs argument ? Instead of posters here being adamant that data is being altered to downplay it then why don't they learn how to read the seismo's and report back when they think something is up ? How can people comment on a job they know nothing at all about ? Here ya go. Some great information. May or may not be helpful in this situation. But just the same, there is some very good information about reading seismographs. [link to www.geonet.org.nz] Last Edited by shenue on 06/25/2012 03:55 PM Watch your thoughts; they become words. Watch your words; they become actions. Watch your actions; they become habits. Watch your habits; they become your character. Watch your character; it becomes your destiny. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18515001 Philippines 06/25/2012 03:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Update 25/06 – 18:55 UTC Quoting: shenue - Seismicity is calming considerably the last couple of hours. It seems that the volcano has listened to the Pevolca board . - 121 M+2 earthquakes until 17:37 UTC today (149 total M+1.4) (This does not take into account the probably hundreds of earthquakes below M1.4 which were registered in 2011, but are only visible now for the IGN and INVOLCAN volcanologists). [link to earthquake-report.com] Maybe it's just gathering steam. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 15368686 United States 06/25/2012 04:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Idgits Please stop...you have no idea how wrong you are. Of course they change data mildly to reflect accuracy. BUT, these agencies doctor information to downplay the events. REPEATEDLY Of course the government play down events there that is obvious. But as no one on here knows how to interperet the seismographs we would be ignorant to accuse them of altering quake data. It is all there for people to see, learn how to interperet it and see for yourself is all I am saying. No one can accuse the seismologists of altering data when no one knows how to calculate it. bullshit argument 'you don't know so we won't show you' How is it a bs argument ? Instead of posters here being adamant that data is being altered to downplay it then why don't they learn how to read the seismo's and report back when they think something is up ? How can people comment on a job they know nothing at all about ? It doesn't take a friggin genius to see a seismograph...we learned how to detect when the straight line went not straight. Okay, we learned how to see when there were strong enough anomolies in the graphs to suggest seismic activities. When the seismic activity registers, 99% of the data is put on the charts. Then, 5 days later, the quakes are removed from the charts but the anomolies remain!!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17234290 United States 06/25/2012 04:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18515358 Of course the government play down events there that is obvious. But as no one on here knows how to interperet the seismographs we would be ignorant to accuse them of altering quake data. It is all there for people to see, learn how to interperet it and see for yourself is all I am saying. No one can accuse the seismologists of altering data when no one knows how to calculate it. bullshit argument 'you don't know so we won't show you' How is it a bs argument ? Instead of posters here being adamant that data is being altered to downplay it then why don't they learn how to read the seismo's and report back when they think something is up ? How can people comment on a job they know nothing at all about ? Here ya go. Some great information. May or may not be helpful in this situation. But just the same, there is some very good information about reading seismographs. [link to www.geonet.org.nz] Thanks Shenue. This link has info on how to calculate data, lots of info on seismos. [link to www.gfz-potsdam.de] I'd love to be able to interperet the seismo's but there is a lot to read up on before I can. I'm not an expert which is why I don't go around accusing them of something I know nothing about. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18576136 Portugal 06/25/2012 04:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Update 25/06 – 18:55 UTC - Seismicity is calming considerably the last couple of hours. It seems that the volcano has listened to the Pevolca board . - 121 M+2 earthquakes until 17:37 UTC today (149 total M+1.4) (This does not take into account the probably hundreds of earthquakes below M1.4 which were registered in 2011, but are only visible now for the IGN and INVOLCAN volcanologists). [link to earthquake-report.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15368686 United States 06/25/2012 04:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks for trying to ban me Idgits. I guess you don't like people disagreeing with you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18103814 Please tell me why would they go through the trouble of altering data when they could just 404 the pages ? It is only for public use, seismologists don't need the site. Also why would they go through the trouble of altering data when peoplr who live there would feel the quakes and scream 'conspiracy' ? Unless you are just accusing them of altering data on small unfelt quakes ? I don't like people being rediculously stupid. That's what you're being. We have a proven track record in this thread of knowing what we're talking about. Take the time to appreciate what we have done, the things we have learned, the work we have put in...and show some respect for it. Don't sit here and act like you know us or our abilities. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18576136 Portugal 06/25/2012 04:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Renato Rio says: June 25, 2012 at 09:35 Matabosch suggests that an aerial eruption at El Julan is imminent (French): [link to www.66270rosesetepines.com] [link to volcanocafe.wordpress.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18574565 Russia 06/25/2012 04:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.wired.com] MRandolph_Kruger Today 01:44 PM in reply to RenatoRio Collapse Expand Amen RR. This one seems to be an all "on island" adventure for quakes. If that water in that mountain ever got even 15 pounds of pressure on it then a single quake could cause the big landslide. The government pulled all their people out a month or so ago for most of them. Now they may be back. MRandolph_Kruger 17 minutes ago Collapse Expand Anyone want to hazard a guess as to why with exceptions an all on land group of quakes? More than that as well, why hasnt it risen? We know it went from left to right and then up to Restinga last time. Trapped? Too deep for now to do anything at that depth to heat the water. Let it come up to about 10kms and that will change. There is little if any liquid water at those depths its at now as a rule worldwide. Its also hitting the roof of the chamber from the last eruption...building pressure? Might get the big potato of a rapid rise to the surface after it pressure cookers for a while.... The plot from the West side to the S.West side is also pretty interesting. Got to be a load of solid rock under that island and composed of iron or ferro compounds. Might take it a while to break through but its what comes post of this that bothers me. Animation of Earthquakes El Hierro 24-25th June |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 18576136 Portugal 06/25/2012 05:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | dfmorvan says: June 25, 2012 at 21:17 Well some density plotting of the EQ swarm I just made. One can see very clearly the movement of the swarm. [link to eruptionelhierro.blogspot.fr] [link to volcanocafe.wordpress.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 18230679 United Kingdom 06/25/2012 05:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Renato Rio says: June 25, 2012 at 20:38 Back to CHIE re-scaling: I really think they did it. Judging from the size of the quakes of equal magnitudes, you clearly see that the graphics have been re-scaled after 17:00. Reply Ursula says: June 25, 2012 at 20:51 I think you are probably correct, because the other stations (EGOM, EFAM, EOSO) don’t show any change in amplitude of tremor. But it might be an automatic rescaling, that was what was happenng before, if I remember correctly. Reply GeoLoco says: June 25, 2012 at 20:57 There was automatic rescaling. Wonder if it’s linked to an automatic webcam-switchoff-device? :-) -------------------------------- i thought so. the energy chart is MAINTAINING the straight line rise. [link to www.02.ign.es] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 17234290 United States 06/25/2012 06:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to volcanocafe.wordpress.com] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18230679 Renato Rio says: June 25, 2012 at 20:38 Back to CHIE re-scaling: I really think they did it. Judging from the size of the quakes of equal magnitudes, you clearly see that the graphics have been re-scaled after 17:00. Reply Ursula says: June 25, 2012 at 20:51 I think you are probably correct, because the other stations (EGOM, EFAM, EOSO) don’t show any change in amplitude of tremor. But it might be an automatic rescaling, that was what was happenng before, if I remember correctly. Reply GeoLoco says: June 25, 2012 at 20:57 There was automatic rescaling. Wonder if it’s linked to an automatic webcam-switchoff-device? :-) -------------------------------- i thought so. the energy chart is MAINTAINING the straight line rise. [link to www.02.ign.es] You missed a bit ... Bemused says: June 25, 2012 at 21:59 What do you mean exactly when you say automatic rescaling ? Reply Carl le Strange says: June 25, 2012 at 22:08 As the signal get to strong it will become distorted so the gain (volume) is lowered in 3dB increments. Done automaticaly to give a best possible signal recording. Nothing odd with that really. A clipped signal withholds information, so they rescale instead. [link to volcanocafe.wordpress.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 17962764 United States 06/25/2012 07:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is believed that the eruption in 1793 started in May and ended in June but it is uncertain. [link to www.volcano.si.edu] |