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There REALLY IS something strange in western sky around sunset...!!!

 
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By the way, got to the everglades right at sunset, armed with binoculars, camera with telephoto lens, and sony camcorder but to no avail. Cloud cover over the horizon up to at least 20 degrees. :(
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I saw it tonight for the first time. I live just south of Memphis, TN. Not sure what it is...
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9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.
10 Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.
11 Give us this day our daily bread.
12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.
13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.

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I saw it tonight for the first time. I live just south of Memphis, TN. Not sure what it is...
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Details please!
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I saw it tonight for the first time. I live just south of Memphis, TN. Not sure what it is...
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Do you know what time it was .... to the minute? i am hoping my friend pulls through with the pics/vid i am supposed to receive from him tonight.
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not spot the object but said his kids had a great time!

This will be my 4th night looking.

How sweet it is.


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watching the sun set and the moon (and stars) come out, is never a waste of time ... it is good when we can appreciate, that the best things in life are free
 Quoting: SunnyDaze


Exactly any time you can get people off their techno devices to go outside and have a looksie is a real good thing. We all forget just how vast and beautiful the Milky Way is. My favorite quote from from the Desidarata "Unbeknownst to you the universe is unfolding as it should ".
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I'm going to a local State Forest tomorrow after work, and will go again Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. There is a lookout tower which is taller than all the trees.

I hope it will be a good point for me to see the horizon during sunset. I don't have good equipment at all but I will do what I can.

iPhone, two different Kodak point and shoots (one 7.2MP one 12 and records 720P video) and a decent-ish tripod and some nearly useless binoculars.

I have the SkyView Free app on my phone, so I'll try to get it calibrated using the sun as a reference point once I'm up in the tower.

I'll record myself doing all of this using the 7.2MP camera, and try to use the better cam to capture anything else.

If anyone has any other suggestions please do tell me!

By the way I'm in south central Indiana, about an hour south of Indy.

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I'm going to a local State Forest tomorrow after work, and will go again Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. There is a lookout tower which is taller than all the trees.

I hope it will be a good point for me to see the horizon during sunset. I don't have good equipment at all but I will do what I can.

iPhone, two different Kodak point and shoots (one 7.2MP one 12 and records 720P video) and a decent-ish tripod and some nearly useless binoculars.

I have the SkyView Free app on my phone, so I'll try to get it calibrated using the sun as a reference point once I'm up in the tower.

I'll record myself doing all of this using the 7.2MP camera, and try to use the better cam to capture anything else.

If anyone has any other suggestions please do tell me!

By the way I'm in south central Indiana, about an hour south of Indy.
 Quoting: 5190


Please read how sunnydaze says to find it...good luck
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I saw it tonight for the first time. I live just south of Memphis, TN. Not sure what it is...
 Quoting: Mr. Shatner


Details please!
 Quoting: Bluepill


Faint glow just below and to the left of the moon. I can no longer see it though. I went outside to try to snap a pic, but either it is out of view, or just not visible.
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Matthew 6:9-13
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9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.
10 Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.
11 Give us this day our daily bread.
12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.
13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.

Matthew 24:42 - Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
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I'm going to a local State Forest tomorrow after work, and will go again Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. There is a lookout tower which is taller than all the trees.

I hope it will be a good point for me to see the horizon during sunset. I don't have good equipment at all but I will do what I can.

iPhone, two different Kodak point and shoots (one 7.2MP one 12 and records 720P video) and a decent-ish tripod and some nearly useless binoculars.

I have the SkyView Free app on my phone, so I'll try to get it calibrated using the sun as a reference point once I'm up in the tower.

I'll record myself doing all of this using the 7.2MP camera, and try to use the better cam to capture anything else.

If anyone has any other suggestions please do tell me!

By the way I'm in south central Indiana, about an hour south of Indy.
 Quoting: 5190


Please read how sunnydaze says to find it...good luck
 Quoting: Bluepill


I saw it yesterday on my way home from town. Before yesterday I was sadly mistaken and was looking at Venus. Way wrong, and way off. I now know what I'm looking for, as I've "seen the light" if you will. Thanks.
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Meanwhile shills have crisis meeting..

"We need a new angle.. " We could say..Maybe they all have cataracts and are experiencing the same hallucination ? "

"They ain't buying this contrail crap.. "

"How about weather balloon ? "
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I saw it tonight for the first time. I live just south of Memphis, TN. Not sure what it is...
 Quoting: Mr. Shatner


Do you know what time it was .... to the minute? i am hoping my friend pulls through with the pics/vid i am supposed to receive from him tonight.
 Quoting: LucaChuchetta


To the minute, no. After 7 before 7:15.
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Matthew 6:9-13
King James Version (KJV)

9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.
10 Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.
11 Give us this day our daily bread.
12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.
13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.

Matthew 24:42 - Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
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I saw it tonight for the first time. I live just south of Memphis, TN. Not sure what it is...
 Quoting: Mr. Shatner


Details please!
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Faint glow just below and to the left of the moon. I can no longer see it though. I went outside to try to snap a pic, but either it is out of view, or just not visible.
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I don't think it is left of the moon, but I don't know your reference point.
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Meanwhile shills have crisis meeting..

"We need a new angle.. " We could say..Maybe they all have cataracts and are experiencing the same hallucination ? "

"They ain't buying this contrail crap.. "

"How about weather balloon ? "
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LMAO!!!
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I've been outside since 6pm, its now 7:27pm central...Its now dark. I live in south Louisiana and have a very unobstructed view of the skyline. I live out among sugar cane fields and they have been harvested so, I have a very wide flat view of the horizon. I scanned the entire western sky from north to south several times with binoculars. I saw nothing that resembled a firery V or flaming wings. Just jets way off in the distance leaving their trail behind. Not saying you guys are lying... just saying I see nothing here like you guys describe.
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I saw it tonight for the first time. I live just south of Memphis, TN. Not sure what it is...
 Quoting: Mr. Shatner


Details please!
 Quoting: Bluepill


Faint glow just below and to the left of the moon. I can no longer see it though. I went outside to try to snap a pic, but either it is out of view, or just not visible.
 Quoting: Mr. Shatner


I don't think it is left of the moon, but I don't know your reference point.
 Quoting: Bluepill


What I saw was almost across from Venus. Might not be the same object, but whatever it was, it is no longer there. I did watch it long enough to know that is was no a plane.
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Matthew 6:9-13
King James Version (KJV)

9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.
10 Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.
11 Give us this day our daily bread.
12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.
13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.

Matthew 24:42 - Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
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From the proximity to the Moon, I would guess Venus. It was to the left of the Moon last night.
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yep that is Venus ... keep looking - farther north and closer to the ground
 Quoting: SunnyDaze


lol, so it's not south west anymore? It's north now? Legit.
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OK I can see how that could be misunderstood ... but I have stated clearly a hundred times now that if you draw a line from Venus straight to the ground and follow the horizon from that point - to where the sun is setting (north ?) you will see it (from my POV) just past the half-way point ... less than an inch off the horizon

it will be out of the frame, if you are looking at the setting sun (and it is in the center of your camera screen) - but in the next frame to the left, with the sun being your starting point


is that better ? ... OK now go look for yourself
 Quoting: SunnyDaze




The sun isn't setting north. In fact, it is setting just south of due west (263 degrees). Anyway, I was outside tonight 1 hour before sunset until dark and didn't see ANYTHING. Just clear skies. Not one contrail, not a 'flaming v', nothing. I searched south to north, from horizon to zenith. So if anyone else saw something, it has to be in the atmosphere local to them...not a celestial object.

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I will be pulling my binocs out for tomorrow and my camera is charging as we speak.
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Matthew 6:9-13
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9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.
10 Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.
11 Give us this day our daily bread.
12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.
13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.

Matthew 24:42 - Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
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In my heart, I do not believe Astromut is a shill...you can flame me for this, but before this thread I enjoyed him using his wits to debunk, I think, 100% of the various space events we followed here.

I,for the life of me, don't understand his position here. It is almost as if he is scared. Or he is pissed he and his beloved community didn't find this thing first.

He spent many posts defending the holy grail of "science" only to absolutely shatter that grail with his prejudice, presuppositions, and outlandish "theories."
I just don't get it.
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Meanwhile shills have crisis meeting..

"We need a new angle.. " We could say..Maybe they all have cataracts and are experiencing the same hallucination ? "

"They ain't buying this contrail crap.. "

"How about weather balloon ? "
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I've been outside since 6pm, its now 7:27pm central...Its now dark. I live in south Louisiana and have a very unobstructed view of the skyline. I live out among sugar cane fields and they have been harvested so, I have a very wide flat view of the horizon. I scanned the entire western sky from north to south several times with binoculars. I saw nothing that resembled a firery V or flaming wings. Just jets way off in the distance leaving their trail behind. Not saying you guys are lying... just saying I see nothing here like you guys describe.
 Quoting: keschete 24428308


Just curious, why scan the entire western horizon? It should be, from reports here, just a bit above the horizon, south of the sun by a few fingers breath as the sun sets. I want to know so I don't make the same "mistakes." Thanks!
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Damn! You guys got the shills/trolls out of here!

Thread...back on track. Awesome!

I haven't seen it in two nights now, going to go out and look here in a bit and see if I can spot it again.
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Venus is below and to the West of the moon

It looks odd being only 60% illuminated
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Venus is below and to the West of the moon

It looks odd being only 60% illuminated
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Saw that too...I think we will lose these as reference points soon.
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I've been outside since 6pm, its now 7:27pm central...Its now dark. I live in south Louisiana and have a very unobstructed view of the skyline. I live out among sugar cane fields and they have been harvested so, I have a very wide flat view of the horizon. I scanned the entire western sky from north to south several times with binoculars. I saw nothing that resembled a firery V or flaming wings. Just jets way off in the distance leaving their trail behind. Not saying you guys are lying... just saying I see nothing here like you guys describe.
 Quoting: keschete 24428308


Just curious, why scan the entire western horizon? It should be, from reports here, just a bit above the horizon, south of the sun by a few fingers breath as the sun sets. I want to know so I don't make the same "mistakes." Thanks!
 Quoting: Bluepill


4 night

South Louisiana

No clear sighting

Just Venus and Saturn - moon

Contrails

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You, who couldn't even identify Venus, are in NO position to judge my credibility. Full stop.
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the reason, I mis-identified Venus is because of my unfamilarity with the Stellarium program, which (when I first looked) showed me Venus almost over my head - and I like so many others was going on the clues (first star, brighter that any others) I did "verify" that I WAS'nt looking at venus with a star chart
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So you couldn't even operate a simple star chart properly that is designed for use by lay people, but you think you can judge me and be the authority on whether I'm "credible" or not? Ha!
I fully expect for you to show us a comtrail - and nothing else - because that is what YOU BELIEVE we are seeing - but it is not
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You're so predictable. When I show you the same phenomenon and then prove it's just a contrail you'll bitch that I only showed a contrail but magically what you saw must have been something else because YOU claim you saw it on fire. You, the expert of astronomy, who took half a thread to identify Venus after vehemently telling posters she wasn't looking at Venus.
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if you can show us a contrail that looks like a flaming V - and it stays apparent for a half an hour in the same place
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No. You have not shown a "flaming V" that "stays in the same place for half an hour."
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Venus is below and to the West of the moon

It looks odd being only 60% illuminated
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Strictly off the main topic - the combo of Venus and the Moon last night was VERY cool looking. I'm high desert, so not a lot of light pollution.

On topic, I didn't see it again last night. Saw it for almost a week though. Hope I will spot it tonight.
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Nice plane contrail, looks like it's moving pretty good in only a few seconds. What's this bullshit about it being stationary for half an hour?
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Not when they are illuminated by the setting sun. Haven't you ever seen orange/red clouds at sunset?
 Quoting: BoxerLvr


there you go, insulting my intelligence again ... with your PRE-CONCIEVED notion that I have never see a sun set before and can't tell the difference between water-vapor (cloud) and FIRE

STFU until you have seen it you have no idea what you are talking about
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What intelligence did you ever have? Thinking a contrail illuminated by the sun is an object. I had officially debunked this thread when I had said it was a contrail like 50 pages ago, but you guys are just that stupid this thread just got out of hand fast. I think YOU guys owe me an apology.
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Excuse me.....weren't all you asstronomers telling us this was VENUS before Dr. Asstro showed up? Now you're trying to tell people that this is a contrail that has been stationary for HOW LONG? WTF?

You, and Dr. Asstro and the rest of your crew have ZERO and I mean ZERO credibility because you decide what the object is....BEFORE YOU EVEN SEE THE ACTUAL OBJECT AND ANALYZE IT.

and what does THAT mean? It means you're all full of shit....yes, you too, Dr. Asstro... - you can give me more bad karma, I don't give a shit.
 Quoting: mehitable lives


I've already seen this phenomenon before. That's what you don't get through your thick skull, I know what it is because I've seen it. It's a goddamn plane contrail. I shot some footage tonight. I was going to do it live but unfortunately I forgot the USB cable to my phone so I wasn't able to tether it to the laptop for the internet. Nevertheless I proceeded to shoot a few planes over the course of half an hour showing various contrails that match the descriptions and videos that various people have been posting here.
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In my heart, I do not believe Astromut is a shill...you can flame me for this, but before this thread I enjoyed him using his wits to debunk, I think, 100% of the various space events we followed here.

I,for the life of me, don't understand his position here. It is almost as if he is scared. Or he is pissed he and his beloved community didn't find this thing first.

He spent many posts defending the holy grail of "science" only to absolutely shatter that grail with his prejudice, presuppositions, and outlandish "theories."
I just don't get it.
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Re: There REALLY IS something strange in western sky around sunset...!!!
I had my telescope out tonight. Saw Venus. Beautiful! Saw a great crescent moon...awesome! Saw several other stars that I don't know, and a few that were really bright and had some cool colors too! As for the object...sorry it wasn't there. I am in SE OH and it wasn't anywhere in sight. I was looking for it, to no avail. My guess is a plane that flies the same route at the same time and the contrails give it the "v" look...

I was really trying to believe...really I was...but nothing.





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