There REALLY IS something strange in western sky around sunset...!!!

Wow, unbelievable.

This is almost a childlike self-deception.
I have a sixteen year old who has already matured past this stage. That being said, my twelve year old is squarely in it at the moment.

If you can't even be honest with yourself, how can expect anything you say to be true?

Listen, not everyone is willing to remain willfully ignorant.

For Example:

Incredible footage Dr. Astro

I saw this object a few times last week and was convinced it was the second Sun !

But after seeing your video, it looks like I was totally wrong !

I can now come out from my deep bunker and join the human race again.

Thanks again Dr. Astro

Damn you Sunnydaze and Cassandra Echo, you both had me losing my marbles ...............

If you wish to see more rocket launches, you don't need the Government, or their cameras Friend. Plenty of Russians with their private camcorders filming it most each night a rocket is launched from Baikonur, or other spaceports in Russia :) They are all on YouTube! Enjoy

I saw it days ago and thought it was Venus. I came in looked on starlarium and it was NOT venus.

It only stayed there for about an hour or so then it vanished. I am thinking it is only visable for a short time while the Earth is in a certain position.

It is there and I had my family go out and see it. It is major Bright and you can see it is not a star because the "shape" is not of a normal star, it is kinda blurred but exceptionally bright.

We all went inside, when I got ready to leave we searched for this object and it was gone.

I am telling you this is the beginning of the second sun prophecy. I am worried about the new pope also. I am a catholic, but I am worried they have finally put in the place of the true Pope, a NWO pope.

Here's why I think this:

He has said we need to stop focusing on Gays. Abortion.
I don't remember one time in church where it was ever mentioned.

He washed women's feet for the first time in the history of the Church.

Also the Jesuits are not to ever be in a political office in the church, they are there to defend the papacy. the Pope.

St. Frances was NOT A PRIEST.

He does not wear the vestments of the Pope.

He does not wear the shoes of the Pope.

He does not "sit" in the Pope's Chair. The Chair of Peter.

There are changes coming we are told, that will begin to change the Holy Mass.

There are things so far that have alerted me to the fact that he is not the true Pope.

And most of all, Where is Pope Benedict. What is happened to him. Something is not right.

Be made more aware not to blindly follow these changes. This Pope is not traditional. He is changing things at a fast pace.

These are dangerous times we are living in. Many years ago, the smoke of satan entered the Church. I am in no way saying abandon our Catholic Faith, but I do think that the true church will soon have to go underground soon.

Strange times. The star appears, then the Government shuts down. Even the parks and Zoo are shutting down. Very strange times indeed.

well, that website is at least showing us something with the "right" angle (wrong color and trails but close) ... I will continue to check in

is is "official" yet - that we can see it with our naked eye? or is it still in the realms of those with ultra expensive toys?

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you bring up some interesting point - that could ALSO be used to evaluate ALL of our Present "leaders" ... if I may "edit" your list down to three main factors ... our "Authority figures" are being replaced by people with no clear "right" to hold that position, they do not "look or act" as outlined in the "job discriptions" they seem to have no familarity with the established structure of their office, and are hell bent on changing it ASAP to bring it into alignment with a Plan that they refuse to reveal.



bottom line - THE POPE HAS A SCOPE - why isn't he telling his flock, what he sees - isn't he the Ultimate SEER ? and spokesman for the "heavenly host"

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You are right. There are signs in the Vatican, but you are not observing carefully.

This pope is humble and for the people, a true representative of Christ. He is against all the fakery that has existed forever in the Vatican before him.

The Vatican has never been about following Christ, just pretended they did and it has always done exactly the opposite of Jesus' teachings, and it is time to change.

My feeling was that there was much evil in the Vatican and now Pope Francis, with true Franciscan energy, will try to help correct what was wrong for so long.

Pope Francis knows WHO is coming back ;)

sorry I added a "bottom line" - the POPE HAS A SCOPE - isn't he responsible for telling the public what he sees ? is there a website, with that sort of link?

I am being honest with myself, I can not and choose of my own free will, not to be influenced by your perspective of me - however I am mature enough and have personal experience that gives me undenyable evidence - that we always find our own faults in other (because we are so familiar with them)

you don't hear me analyising your perspectives of this object as a mental illness or personal failing ... you haven't see it ... and apparently choose NOT to believe that it is anything other than a plane ... I respect your choice - just don't try to shove it down my throat - you didn't see what I saw, and I have every RIGHT to be true to my SELF ...

I am not asking anyone to believe ME - I am encouraging them to GO OUT AND LOOK FOR THEIR SELF


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Thread: Astronomy friend just rang me concerning Betelgeuse going Nova!

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Has your view changed from this statement Sunnydaze.

Right. you may edit my list for sure. There are others. I have to think. But he is leading may down a road to heresy.

my perspective is changed, with every post, every experience, and ever new and enhancing perspective ... because my mind is not closed - I believe ALL things are possible


I also believe that if enough focus, with the GENUINE intent of SEEING through the "heat shield" of any REALity, that exist within the collective reality of a (self) creative species - IT WILL reveal its SOURCE - as US (including God/Satan good and evil, duality, judgment, political correctness, death, the after life, and reincarnation)

I believe, that if all 150.000 + people who "Viewed" this post - were focused that they COULD actually MANIFEST this object

I also believe that the "puppet master" KNOW our potential to create OUR OWN reality ... individually, but what is even more threatening to HIS plans for humanity, is what we are able to manifest - instantly, COLLECTIVELY - that interfere with his plans to keep us enslaved, by OUR OWN willful IGNORE-ance of what we are participating in

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And why would you hang out on a thread and continually converse with a person who is "dishonest"? 2/3 of all your comments on this thread are occurring between you and a "dishonest" person. Do you make a habit of doing that? Trying to convince dishonest people to adopt your point of view?

Here's what most "rational" people do: when they realize that they are dealing with someone who is untrustworthy, they disengage and move on - unless they, too, share this trait and are drawn to it. So either Sunny is not untrustworthy, and you have another agenda here, or she is untrustworthy, and you are drawn to her in a birds-of-a-feather fashion.

Either way, this endless contrail debate detracts from what started this thread:eyewitness accounts of the type Greek Couple has offered.

Everyone is responsible for using their own discretion. No one "makes you" or "has you" doing anything. It's called free will, people. If you come to this website and start to lose your marbles, I would again refer you to the banner at the top: of this site: LUNATIC FRINGE. That means that some of the theories espoused on these threads may or may not be batshit crazy. Or they may be the cutting edge of truth. As goes the old adage, "When you are one step ahead of the crowd, they call you a genius. When you are two steps ahead of the crowd, they call you crazy."

If you let people on this thread convince you that there's something there - without using your own eyes and discretion - then you probably are losing your marbles and should probably stay in that bunker for the safety of yourself and others. If, on the other hand, you let webcasts and endless bleating about photos of contrails convince you that nothing is there, then you're likewise a lost cause.

This thread was started to encourage people to look into the skies to see if others were witnessing the same phenomenon. If only a handful of people had confirmed, that would be proof - at least for me - that OP was imagining things.

But when hundreds of people on different forums are witnessing the same thing, that tells me that the subject is worth pursuing. Is it definitive truth? No. But I believe the subject is worth pursuing, which is more than I can say for others who are desperately trying to shut down the possibility of this object's existence.

Use your own judgment! Don't rely on ANYONE to convince you of ANYTHING - regardless of how many times they claim to have seen the object, how passionate they are that the object exists, how big their telescope is, how many webcasts they host or how smart they think they are.

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This thread was started to encourage people to look into the skies to see if others were witnessing the same phenomenon. If only a handful of people had confirmed, that would be proof - at least for me - that OP was imagining things.

But when hundreds of people on different forums are witnessing the same thing, that tells me that the subject is worth pursuing. Is it definitive truth? No. But I believe the subject is worth pursuing, which is more than I can say for others who are desperately trying to shut down the possibility of this object's existence

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I`m not seeing Hundred`s of people seeing this so called Object.

Once it was explained to them what they might be seeing, ie Venus or illuminated contrails.

Most agreed, and only a handful are left wondering !!!!!

Someone (I forgot who) gave a summary of all the eyewitness accounts on this thread. There were about 90 at that time. We have since received at least a dozen more. When taken together with the accounts (some posted here) from other forums, there really have been hundreds.

And I may have missed it, but where did you see that "most agreed" there was nothing there when it was explained to them that thy were seeing Venus or contrails? Granted, I have missed a few pages of this thread, but I haven't seen the phenomenon of contrail/Venus persuasion that your are describing with respect to "most" eyewitness accounts. Just curious. Thanks.

To all those who believe that people are "imagining" things, or that there have only been a small number of corroborating eyewitness accounts, or that most eyewitnesses to this object have since realized that they were observing Venus or contrails:

Below is a list of first-hand accounts from members on this forum alone - all posted within ONE WEEK of this thread's inception.

We have gone through nearly 100 more pages since then, with many, many more eyewitness accounts.

And no, "most" of these observers have not since been convinced that they saw Venus or a contrail.

Use your common sense. No one should convince you of nothing. Just ask yourself how likely it is that all of these people are seeing the same contrail, in the same location, at the same time, all around the globe - or that all of these people have just suddenly noticed a planet that has been there since eons before their birth.

Then ask yourself when you have seen this many corroborating, first-hand accounts on GLP in one week. And btw, it his isn't just happening on GLP. I have visited other forums and people are seeing the same "object".

Maybe there's something in the water. Maybe it's a phenomenal coincidence. Maybe all of these people are smoking crack. I do not have the answers.

You - and YOU alone - should be the judge:

I notice most ACs are the ones telling us that the object is a contrail or illusion. Yet those who actually use their login think otherwise.

I'll go with the people who login over any AC anyday.

Any shill can reply as an AC therefore its hard to find even an honest AC credible.

I saw this object 2 nights ago. My lady saw it and she hates when i talk about ANYTHING Conspiracy.

She even asked her brother WTF is was. So im convinced there is something there. Its not a FUCKING CONTRAIL!

That would mean there is a goddamn plane contrailing EVERY SINGLE DAY At the same time.

Bullshit!@!!!!!

And in the SAME location, viewable across the globe. Bullshit, indeed, Cebeij.

If this were only being viewed in California or Japan, I would have ditched this thread long ago.

I couldn't agree more.

This is the thing - it is so much a contrail why are we all worried?

Next topic please!

what?

Shills are the only ones who are "worried" that people are going to throw themselves into bunkers because of a contrail.

The rest of us are calmly watching the skies and are refusing to fall into fear, regardless of what this object is.

Astro, aka Phil Platt got butthurt in tremendous way. he and Geo holding one another's scopes now.

Idiot...

ive never seen them both shilling so hard.

discounting conspiracy to say its a fucking contrail everyday in the same fuckign spot. I mean. I dont even know what to think.

They must think GLP is full retard now.

Pseudologia fantastica = shills

bots need an electric pillow,
psychos need a mattress,
together they find happiness.

off topic,

has anyone heard of the possibility of Betelgeuse going Supernova, if so what are the implications for Earth?

SO start a new thread, stop keeping this one alive with your ridiculous bumps.