There REALLY IS something strange in western sky around sunset...!!!

One man? WRONG. The videos posted by your friends show that it DOES move and that their claim that it doesn't is flatly wrong. Their claim that it does not move is false.

Luca, I loved your CA friend's account of this object very early on in the thread. Did he/she ever get video?

You'd think there would be a solid video by now then.

How hard is it to film something that appears every night.

This thread just shows how unreliable GLP eyewitness accounts are.

If 150+ (I doubt this number is even true) randoms said there was a flying spaghetti monster visible every sunrise you'd believe them and just ignore what the evidence says?

I find it amazing that the "witnesses" keep trying to throw the burden of proof away from themselves.

If I ever do I will certainly post it here :) I am considering a trip to the west coast!

Hey GLPers,

I will go back 2 pages, reply to anything I missed. And then we will be starting 2 new threads. I have Checkmated the GB's here, and I have more work tonight. I will announce the new threads shortly, there will be a smooth, seemless transition and the threads will go until the answer is KNOWN, not photographed/video-taped/telescoped. There are issues with all of those so we are going Sumerian-Style on 1 thread and 4 year i.q. test style on the other one. Stay tuned.

To be clear, we have exceeded 200 pages, identified all GB's even the NZ contractor. Given them a chance to produce answers and evidence, they have declined. The fact that I am NEARLY the only person to even post "groound to sky" pictures out of 200 pages says a lot about me and the GB's. Venus with Naked Eye at 230 pm, but NOT one picture. At any rate, I am going 2 pages back...simple replies and "keeping it moving" to the 2 new FUTURE epic threads. So I will not be asking any questions, and will not see any thing after that. Didn't disappear, but my work is done here. Thanks to you all, for confirming and proving all my suspicions.

Erik Barnes
The David Blaine of Lens Flare

Look for the new threads soon!!!

Suspicions of what 3rd eye?

Divide and Conquer...When my opposition tell you to "not be my friend" (not a quote--translated to 5 year old speak), you know what the SCORE is. I would NEVER tell Seth to "not have relations with Astro". IJS.

Actually, frequency is legitimate. I would like to take a page from American jurisprudence again to illustrate. If 150 people claim to have witnessed a murder in a most unusual fashion, and the defense argued "Your honor, that is an extraordinary accusation, and the court should require video evidence of the act in order to establish guilt", do you think a competent judge would discount the claims of 150 people simply because the extraordinary murder was not recorded on videotape?

Of course not. Because the case would be decided based on the overwhelming circumstantial evidence of eyewitnesses - much like the evidence of Neptune's existence was established based almost solely on its perturbance of Uranus. With substantial circumstantial evidence, photographic proof was not necessary.

Ergo, just as a video is not necessary to establish proof of a murder when 150+ claimed to have witness it, we do not need videographic proof of the object the witnesses saw in order to establish its existence - because the circumstantial evidence is so weighty here. The burden of proof is on you to show otherwise with similar, compelling proof. And videos of random contrails will not suffice. You must prove that an ordinary contrary behaves as the witnesses have described.

No one thinks you are nuts. You will be welcomed on the upcoming Sumerian Style thread. Check us out.

What a retard. Who compares real life to the anonymity of the internet.

Prove the witnesses are even independent. Could be the same few shills with different IPs. Wow, lmao.

No will think you are nuts, even the people who might attack you, KNOW you are not nuts. You will be welcomed on the upcoming EPIC Sumerian-Style thread. Good job and "keep it moving".

Seth, I minored in Mathematics at UNC-Chapel Hill. Your geometry is flawed. 3 circles of different sizes, Sun, "my moon" and "my planet". Of course you do realize that you can "make a straight line" and connect any two circles on the same plane, right? Test it out where plane = white sheet of paper, draw 2 circles anywhere on the paper (of course if they are close like say EARTH and YOUR MOON then the next step is even easier. Now draw a SINGLE LINE through the two circles. You are trying this at home, as we go I hope. Now here's the hard part, if there is a GIANT circle like um, the Sun, take your line and extend it into the GIANT sun. That's why there is a straight line...It's called MAFF, not FLARES. Good job, Professor of Light Artifacts. ROTFLMAO!!!

Of course this has nothing to do with the fact that you DID not agree with SurHO about pic #3. You are on record, No flares, maybe a planet or something. He said "levitating pitch lights". That's not in AGREEMENT. Way to go, bro.

Yes, google "SPT Admundson". Then ask yourself, if they knew the direction of ENTRY in 1983 from there IRAS scope, would they build and observe from the "wrong end"?

Also google Vatican LUCIFER scope. Here's a hint: NOT at the Vatican. Not in the Northern Hemisphere.

Make sense? Good question. Make sure you cross-over to the new threads.

Not me, I never say ANYONE say they saw Elenin without a telescope. Elenin was a decoy. Like 12/21/12 (ironically my wife's b-day). Google Leonid (Constellation Leo) Elenin's internet "trail. He didn't exist until "his" discovery. Oh yea, Elenin just "flamed out" on schedule. ISON is also part of the cover-up. They knew you would see the "winged planet", they figured SOME would go to EarthySky.org an confirm it is NOT VENUS. For those folks, it would/will be ISON. Supposedly greatest comet ever....no pics. Reminds me of Venus on this thread. NO pics.

Definitely not it, but important to report. Thanks. Here is why it is not:

1) Not tiny
2) Not faint
3) Definitely SW
4) Low to horizon DOES fit
5) Time is not right (recent viewing window in Atlanta (appears w/clear skies approx. 7pm - 7:20...Visible until descent below horizon (approx. 820 to 830pm)

By no means, am I saying for sure. Simply pointing out inconsistencies with sightings from all over the world.

Thanks again. Make sure you cross-over to the Sumerian-Style thread upcoming.

Now this caught my attention...Good theory indeed!

You may be on to something...

Been seeing it here in NZ skies for close to 2 years. Brighter and much closer now. Haven't seen it since this thread started though, due to cloud cover or bad weather.

It's pretty hard b/c the planet is very dark. I have routinely photo'd at night, turn camera on and won't pick up. Remember, people aren't walking around with high-powered equipment. And remember, 200 pages without A SINGLE PHOTO OF VENUS. Which is what we want to compare the sightings too. So VENUS doesn't exist according to this thread and your logic. Good work, bro. You are embarrassing 2 countries at one time. Your mate in NZ sees it and is not mad at anyone. The only people who are attack are the ones who "can't see it". Might just be jealous of folks with good eyesight. Who knows.

You have obvious lens flares, We are past that.

That my friends it a GLP BITCH-SLAP, which trumps a company-issued Godzilla Palm or Bitch Kitty. You see those are facts. Prisons full of GUILTY people based SOLELY on CREDIBLE, eye-witness accounts. Ponder this, 150 people see Astro dressed in his old camo's, as he attacks me for embarrassing him at work, if 30 people say the camo's were "beige-ish, green", 60 say "green-ish beige", 30 say "camos, but too dark to tell the color", 30 "can't remember the clothes", (like Seth couldn't remember EarthSky.org), but say it was Astro b/c I work with him. Then Astro will have LEGIT concerns about getting raped.

tonight's video of UFO


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this jerk does not represent New Zealand or New Zealanders. He/she is not a kiwi.

That could be just about ANYTHING
Learn how to focus FFS, or at least set the cam to manual, on infinity.

And the changing colour... you do know about turbulence and atmospheric refraction, right?

LOL!

Boxer alone has provided you with said photo on two different occasions.

People remember things. What you type doesn't go away when you hit the 'POST" Button. It is actually saved. You spout all this BS, but you need to realize that people can go back and see what you say is untrue. I know that sucks, but that is how the internet works.

No indeed he is not. He is a POMMIE - from England. HE is NOT representative of the average, naturally born kiwi.

To the 3rd Eye troll: I already gave you the link to the 2:30pm Venus photo the first time you asked. But keep on lying....that's all you know how to do.








To the 3rd Eye troll: I already gave you the link to the night Venus photos I took with just a dslr camera & tripod. But keep on lying....that's all you know how to do.

Finally made it to the end of my assignment. This has been awesome!

I want to give a special, sincere thanks to SurHO for letting me know my work here was done. Without him/her, I may have put in unnecessary overtime. Let me explain:

Here is what let me know that my mission was accomplished here.

1) SurHO says this--"You saying i missed an entire object in trhe 3rd pic or you saying that what i call a 3rd football pitch light is the mystery object???

2) I respond with this--Is "your pitch light" the same as Seth's "possible planey"? More importantly, did you have to ZOOM to see the pitch light? Even more importantly, what is "suspending" the pitch light? What color is the "pole"? How did they suspend the light pole in the middle of the sky? How come the pole or wire that this "pitch light" must be attached to is not in the picture? You see, I have been going to Sandy Springs Park since 1999, same FOOTBALL FIELD lights for 14 years. I have never seen the pitch light you are referring. For the record, "a possible planet" and a "pitch light" can't be distinguished between SurHO and Seth. These are the folks you all are counting on to tell you what you see. Damn, folks. Astro, can we get a ZOOM to the point of REMOVING all other reference points from the original pic, so we can decide if the "pitch lights" are suspended over my son's football field that I have been going to for 14 years. If you can't provide ANY of the zooms I request, why would/should I trust the ONE you provided when nobody asked you to. This is becoming the biggest piece of "circumstantial" evidence against your motives/intentions. There are at least 4 folks in your camp, if you all offered your 8 pics/shill to be critiqued/de-bunked/ridiculed we would have 40 to evaluate, how come we only have 8. Because I am A MAN, and you all are COWARDS.

Let's dig deep: I have been to the park for 14 years. I took the picture. Seth has never been to the park. Seth did not take the picture. Seth "considers" planet a possibility for "object" in question. SurHO has never been to the park. SurHO did not take the picture. SurHO says it's "pitch light" (i.e. soccer/football field light). There are no lens flare/artifacts in the picture according to Seth. So with NO flares to confuse anyone UNKNOWN PLANET can NOT be distinguished from "Bitch, err Freudian Slip, Pitch Light". Since I am not getting paid to be here like some, do you realize how dumb and pathetic I would have to be to allow 2 idiots to argue about what I look at 3 nights a week (no photo, no binocs, no video needed...just good 'ol Sumerian Eye-sight). Add in the fact, that the light would have to be "levitating" and NOBODY had a problem with this photo ANALysis. Yes, job done here. My next post and last on this thread will explain the next 2 EPIC threads.

Here is a going away poem for some here:

Invictus

Out of the night that covers me,
Black as the Pit from pole to pole,
I thank whatever gods may be
For my unconquerable soul.

In the fell clutch of circumstance
I have not winced nor cried aloud.
Under the bludgeonings of chance
My head is bloody, but unbowed.

Beyond this place of wrath and tears
Looms but the Horror of the shade,
And yet the menace of the years
Finds, and shall find, me unafraid.

It matters not how strait the gate,
How charged with punishments the scroll.
I am the master of my fate:
I am the captain of my soul.

William Ernest Henley

Semper Fi, BOYS!!! Huah!!!

And remember, "keep it moving"