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Jesus Christ Preached Against Homosexuality, But He Also Said Not To Judge Others

 
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I hear often from gay rights activists that Jesus Christ never spoke out about homosexuality or that He never mentioned sexual orientation. This is to set the record straight, so that those with an agenda can stop claiming things they know nothing about.

This first passage is Jesus Christ speaking out against homosexuality. Notice that He differentiates between adultery and sexual immorality - this is important to note because the term 'homosexuality' was not common during His time obviously, so He used the term sexual immorality - separate from adultery - to encompass homosexuality and any other sexual wickedness that is immoral:

Mark 7:21-22

"For from within, out of men's hearts, come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly."

This next passage is Jesus' affirmation of the traditional definition of marriage between one man and one woman. He even goes as far as referencing the story of Creation in which God created male and female. Notice how He specifies a man and wife, not a man and his partner or a woman and her partner:

Matthew 19:4-5

"Haven't you read," He replied, "that at the beginning the Creator 'made them male and female,' and said, 'For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh'?"

So, do not let anyone tell you that Jesus Christ never spoke out against homosexuality, and that He didn't support traditional marriage. Furthermore, it is not possible for you to be a gay Christian. That is the same thing as claiming to be a Christian thief - if you are unrepentant for your sin and you continue that sin in ignorance of Jesus' teachings, you are a walking contradiction.

With all of this being said, it is wrong to cast judgment on others if we ourselves are in need of judgment. However, it is also wrong to support and sponsor immorality while at the same time denigrating the traditional definition of marriage, as Jesus taught us. We all should love homosexuals as we love each other, and in that love, we should yearn to help them overcome their illness of the mind.

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Continued in Matthew 19


10 His disciples said unto him, If the case of the man be so with his wife, it is not good to marry. 11 But he said unto them, All men cannot receive this saying, save they to whom it is given. 12 For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it."

In other words . . . Jesus explained homosexuality was a natural occurrence, a GIFT.

Bumping uglies is a different story!
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1 Corinthians 6:9-10 ESV

Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

Romans 1:26-27 ESV

For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.

Leviticus 18:22 ESV

You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination.

1 Timothy 1:9-10 ESV

Understanding this, that the law is not laid down for the just but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who strike their fathers and mothers, for murderers, the sexually immoral, men who practice homosexuality, enslavers, liars, perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound doctrine,


1 Corinthians 6:9 ESV

Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality

Leviticus 20:13 ESV

If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them


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isnt that why God destroyed Sodom and gomorrah ? man on Man, man with beast, no morals with sex?
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The bible has it all over, the book of romans probably being the most hardline in the new testament, equating homosexuality with bestiality.

Completely agree OP, but expect alot of hate for preaching the truth.
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The media manipulates information on a massive scale. What makes you even think the Bible has come this far without being manipulated just once.

Lets look into perspective. Truth is sought out by personal experience. Joe Blow can tell you he has experienced the best butter in the world. You however wont truly believe it until you try it for yourself.

Now lets just suppose you were not living during the era when Jesus walked the earth. Lets just suppose you were not reincarnated during this time. How would you truly know what he spoke of or what he stood for?

Have you understood what homosexuality is? Do you truly believe that homosexuals chose to have 95% of the world hate them? People can be born with both male and female parts. What makes you think manipulation of biology stops at the physical particles?

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Now Sodomy is protected, and speaking against it is a Hate Crime. The world has gone crazy.
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Masturbation could be lust of the eyes and flesh.
Beastality is an abomination.
Homosexuality is an abomination.
What about inanimate objects like a dildo? Lust of the eyes/flesh?


I think a man/woman is what we were created for in marriage.
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isnt that why God destroyed Sodom and gomorrah ? man on Man, man with beast, no morals with sex?
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One of them, rape, pedophilia, bestiality, basically the 10 commandments didn't need a commandment against these, it was ingrained into the very being of the ancestors of civilization what happened to Sodom and Gomorrah, and how god views these sins, the fact that it's even a question these days shows how decadent society as a whole has become.
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Yet he enjoyed himself among the sausage feast of his 12 buddies.

Why does anyone needs an entourage? Why such a large entourage?

I bet he was insecure and needed to be surrounded by sycophants that agreed with him instead of people of both sexes willing to be his friends.

Also seems that mom was ever present.

If Jesus is a remake of Dyonisius and Horus why do not pray to the original version?

God lives within you and has no name or rules or dogmas. Let the good inside you be free and share it with the universe. Do not limit god to a fabricated deity or dogma.

Each time that the religion of the deity on a stick is rebooted, loses content. Are you aware that your 10 commandments are a diluted version of the 42 that egyptians had?

XXVII. Thou shalt not pollute the water or the land.

This one was erased from the last fairytale edition as well as many that would make a lot of Jesus fanbase sinners.

Spirituality yes if needed. Religion No.

May your afterlife and your idol fulfill your expectations OP.
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no such person ever lived you've been duped, told a fake story to make you obey, wake up! only people that are Against homos are usually homos themselves and are afraid people might find out so they go overboard to try and make sure no one thinks they are gay....maybe make believe Jebus was a closet fag.
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Listen guys....

Let he who has no sin cast the first stone...!!!

Do you understand this?

You is not your job to belittle, bully or fearmonger someone because of their sexual preferrence.

And yes, I FIRMLY believe Jesus Christ would say the same thing in this situation.

I don't care what your sexual preferrences are. That is between you and The Lord. I am cammanded to love my neighbor as myself. It doesn't say love your neighbor as yourself but not if he's gay....

Goodness, what is wrong with some people.!!!

Not one of you have ever towed the line. Not one...!!!

But you have the nerve to threaten someone else's salvation?

Condemn another to hell...?
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You hear that gay Christians? The Bible calls for your murder. Why would you try to be a member of a religion that calls for your murder? Join the Gnosics.
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I can't take you seriously when you use ESV.whatever
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Then there's that cool story about Lot and his daughters. Who both had sex with their own father, ironically after fleeing Sodom and Gomorrah. Then poof, nine months later, the fathers of the Moabites and the Ammonites were born.

Plus the Child Murder, Rape, torture,
genocide, incest, tyranny,
mass slaughter of innocents,
slavery, killing pregnant women,
mutilation, child molestation,
infanticide, intolerance, racism,
hate, etc. A bedtime story made just for kids!
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It's okay to sell your daughter into slavery prostitution SAYS THE BIBLE:


Exodus 21:7-11 And if a man sells his daughter to be a female slave, she shall not go out as the male slaves do. If she does not please the master who has selected her for himself, he must let her be redeemed. He has no right to sell her to foreigners, because he has broken faith with her. If he selects her for his son, he must grant her the rights of a daughter. If he marries another woman, he must not deprive the first one of her food, clothing and marital rights. If he does not provide her with these three things, she is to go free, without any payment of money.


It's also okay to stone your children to death SAYS THE BIBLE:

Deuteronomy 21:18-21
If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them: Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place; And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.


The bible is a MAN WRITTEN fairy tale story, you know fairy tales are stories with stuff like TALKING SNAKES!
Which also is in the Bible FYI.

Anyone that thinks "god" is the bibles words "we should yearn to help them overcome their illness of the mind."

Keep your religion to yourself, everybody believes different things.
All religions are a hoax, just control programs for the masses that can't think logically. sheeplebah
Or do you need the talking snake to tell you that?

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If this is true, then i will apologize to your deity if ever meet the guy.
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Homosexuality acceptance has brought society down and now the Church to it's knees in depravity....
Susie

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i am always amazed at how much time christains think about what other men stick in each others butts. why on earth do any of you care. you say its for the family but its obviously about control. if any of you were too listen with your hearts and not your fears you would know this too.
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looks like someone needs to get laid...just saying
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It's okay to sell your daughter into slavery prostitution SAYS THE BIBLE:


Exodus 21:7-11 And if a man sells his daughter to be a female slave, she shall not go out as the male slaves do. If she does not please the master who has selected her for himself, he must let her be redeemed. He has no right to sell her to foreigners, because he has broken faith with her. If he selects her for his son, he must grant her the rights of a daughter. If he marries another woman, he must not deprive the first one of her food, clothing and marital rights. If he does not provide her with these three things, she is to go free, without any payment of money.


It's also okay to stone your children to death SAYS THE BIBLE:

Deuteronomy 21:18-21
If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them: Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place; And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.


The bible is a MAN WRITTEN fairy tale story, you know fairy tales are stories with stuff like TALKING SNAKES!
Which also is in the Bible FYI.

Anyone that thinks "god" is the bibles words "we should yearn to help them overcome their illness of the mind."

Keep your religion to yourself, everybody believes different things.
All religions are a hoax, just control programs for the masses that can't think logically. sheeplebah
Or do you need the talking snake to tell you that?

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Good Luck With That
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so that's how you justify your hate lol
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Wait, so God married the virgin Mary before Jesus's birth?

Or were they not traditionaly married.

So if Jebus was born out of wed lock its fine but if anyone else does it its wrong?

Dis Mary asked to be pregnant or was it bacically rape?
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i know your not from australia but you can get this nonetheless.
I once had an austrailian professor who said he would rather come from a country founded by criminals than from one founded by puritans. As an american i can definitely agree. these psychos will have all of us heathens burned alive before its all done. dangerous ,powerful and ambitious.. deadly cult material.
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Homosexuality acceptance has brought society down and now the Church to it's knees in depravity....
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so has thread stealing
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This next passage is Jesus' affirmation of the traditional definition of marriage between one man and one woman. He even goes as far as referencing the story of Creation in which God created male and female. Notice how He specifies a man and wife, not a man and his partner or a woman and her partner:

Matthew 19:4-5

"Haven't you read," He replied, "that at the beginning the Creator 'made them male and female,' and said, 'For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh'?"

 Quoting: Rising Son


This is a reference to Spiritual Alchemy.
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Homosexuality acceptance has brought society down and now the Church to it's knees in depravity....
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Nah, sheeple and their fairy tale religions has brought society down.
In the modern age we have zero common sense!

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I hear often from gay rights activists that Jesus Christ never spoke out about homosexuality or that He never mentioned sexual orientation. This is to set the record straight, so that those with an agenda can stop claiming things they know nothing about.

This first passage is Jesus Christ speaking out against homosexuality. Notice that He differentiates between adultery and sexual immorality - this is important to note because the term 'homosexuality' was not common during His time obviously, so He used the term sexual immorality - separate from adultery - to encompass homosexuality and any other sexual wickedness that is immoral:

Mark 7:21-22

"For from within, out of men's hearts, come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly."

This next passage is Jesus' affirmation of the traditional definition of marriage between one man and one woman. He even goes as far as referencing the story of Creation in which God created male and female. Notice how He specifies a man and wife, not a man and his partner or a woman and her partner:

Matthew 19:4-5

"Haven't you read," He replied, "that at the beginning the Creator 'made them male and female,' and said, 'For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh'?"

So, do not let anyone tell you that Jesus Christ never spoke out against homosexuality, and that He didn't support traditional marriage. Furthermore, it is not possible for you to be a gay Christian. That is the same thing as claiming to be a Christian thief - if you are unrepentant for your sin and you continue that sin in ignorance of Jesus' teachings, you are a walking contradiction.

With all of this being said, it is wrong to cast judgment on others if we ourselves are in need of judgment. However, it is also wrong to support and sponsor immorality while at the same time denigrating the traditional definition of marriage, as Jesus taught us. We all should love homosexuals as we love each other, and in that love, we should yearn to help them overcome their illness of the mind.
 Quoting: Rising Son


Marriage has become a abomination, it is not as it was in time of the past, in the Millennium marriage shall once again hold it sacred meaning. Man is to be with Women in righteousness in selflessness of each, anything else is defilement of the contract created, for when one enters into marriage a one time contract is written bound are they in spirit and accountability for each others spirit.

It is also wrong of man to leave their wife and a wife to leave her man and marry another while they yet live, for this is adultery it is wrong of man or women to lust after another even if it be only in mind this too is adultery.

Marriage originally was the sacred union to create life the gift that was given to create life so they may know the joy of love. It has become a abomination for children are born stained and evil spirits overtake them and they become cursed and their children are cursed for it passes through the bloodlines. The world right now is at brink of destruction, it is full of sin and filthiness. The cup shall not be held back much longer when the Sun turns it focus on the world and woes cometh when the air is wounded the cup has been given back.
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Continued in Matthew 19


10 His disciples said unto him, If the case of the man be so with his wife, it is not good to marry. 11 But he said unto them, All men cannot receive this saying, save they to whom it is given. 12 For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it."

In other words . . . Jesus explained homosexuality was a natural occurrence, a GIFT.

Bumping uglies is a different story!
 Quoting: Jeremiah 24508494


Jesus was referring to celibacy, not homosexuality. He was speaking about those who are unable to procreate. I urge you not to take the bible out of context.
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It's okay to sell your daughter into slavery prostitution SAYS THE BIBLE:


Exodus 21:7-11 And if a man sells his daughter to be a female slave, she shall not go out as the male slaves do. If she does not please the master who has selected her for himself, he must let her be redeemed. He has no right to sell her to foreigners, because he has broken faith with her. If he selects her for his son, he must grant her the rights of a daughter. If he marries another woman, he must not deprive the first one of her food, clothing and marital rights. If he does not provide her with these three things, she is to go free, without any payment of money.


It's also okay to stone your children to death SAYS THE BIBLE:

Deuteronomy 21:18-21
If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them: Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place; And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.


The bible is a MAN WRITTEN fairy tale story, you know fairy tales are stories with stuff like TALKING SNAKES!
Which also is in the Bible FYI.

Anyone that thinks "god" is the bibles words "we should yearn to help them overcome their illness of the mind."

Keep your religion to yourself, everybody believes different things.
All religions are a hoax, just control programs for the masses that can't think logically. sheeplebah
Or do you need the talking snake to tell you that?

lala
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