Christians, Why hate Homosexuals? Are you any different?

OK so let’s show people why Christians are deceitful and wrong on homosexuality.

Let’s get rid of the stupid choice argument first.

If homosexuals choose to be homosexuals then you must have chosen to be heterosexual. I knew I was heterosexual from the first time I was attracted to females. I was never attracted to males! But you can’t use that argument because deep down you believe homosexuality is a choice.

So, seeing you hold the choice argument true - Please describe in detail what you did to choose to be heterosexual? Did you test drive someone of your own gender? Do you still have these feelings but suppress them to be heterosexual? Have you told your wife?

So lesson 1 is heterosexuals and homosexuals don’t choose their sexuality. And if they don’t choose it - it is natural! The only people who may have a choice are bi-sexual people.

Now let’s get onto the oppression that Christians use against homosexuals.

Whilst thinking let me remind you of a couple of relevant quotes from Jesus for you to keep in the back of your minds, if your minds are up to that much pressure.

Matthew 20:16 So the last will be first, and the first last. For many are called, but few chosen.

I put this first because you should beware… Your arguments here might just be the straw that puts you into the fiery lakes that you are all so keen to threaten on others.

So in your criticisms of homosexuality you are breaking two key foundational teachings of Jesus

Matthew 7:1-5 "Judge not, that ye be not judged....."

John 8:7 "…let he who has not sinned cast the first stone…."

Delude yourselves if you wish, BUT, you are breaking these two explicit instructions. That is of course, unless you are perfect, and haven’t sinned.

No I didn't think so!

So have any of you not sinned? Can you say in your heart of hearts you never judged?

Haven’t you just failed Christianity 101?

Now to the bits in the Bible that people quote at homosexuals, and why you should be very careful.

I know Moses was a mass murderer who practiced all manner of evils against others, justifying it as “from GOD”, but GOD doesn't condone infanticide, mass murder, war crimes, rape, slavery and other atrocities does he?

Be careful of your answer here. If you believe Moses was following GOD's instructions then you are calling GOD a mass murderering, scumbag.

Now to Moses' rubbish laws on this subject.

Leviticus 18:22: "You shall not lie with a male as those who lie with a female; it is an abomination."

Leviticus 20:13: "If a man lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination and they shall surely be put to death."

These might be fine if it wasn't for the other crazy laws of MOSES. Like this one

Deuteronomy 22:20-21 2 But if this thing be true, and the tokens of virginity be not found for the damsel:

Then they shall bring out the damsel to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her with stones that she die: because she hath wrought folly in Israel, to play the whore in her father's house: so shalt thou put evil away from among you.

Stoning a woman who doesn't bleed on her wedding night? Come on now, this is crazy. This means GOD knows nothing about the woman's body, he designed. A woman's hymen can break for many reasons, other than sex. Is GOD this dumb?

Do you really believe GOD is this unintelligent!

Are you accepting he designs a woman and doesn't understand the physiology? Are you believers this dumb?

But also if you choose to believe and oppress homosexuals because of these passages why aren't you checking female's bed sheets and punishing them still? Why aren't you keeping slaves, killing witches etc.?

These things are too stupid for a loving GOD to accept...

I could list many other rules by Moses that couldn’t have come from GOD, but these is enough for now.

Now people also quote JESUS where he says

Matthew 15:18-19 But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man.

For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies:

Done any of these?

Come on even the best of us have done this

Matthew 5:28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

Anyone here still not sinned?

For you to start ranting on homosexuality… you are judging. WARNING! Do not judge.

For you to waffle on about their sin you are pretending to be without sin. How can you be so hypocritical? How dare you cast the first stone?

BUT here is the verse that your hatred of homosexuality and the oppression of these people really destroys.

John 13:34 "A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another, just as I have loved you, you also are to love one another"

Why can’t you be honest?… You hate homosexuals!... Don't you? If you believe homosexuality is a sin, you look at their sin as worse than your own. Don't you?

Honesty is still a Christian trait isn’t it?

My whole point in asking that was just to illustrate that man is who defines what is sin, it's not God that does it. How can we really know what God thinks? How do we know what we are being told is true?

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See that's a whole other topic. Are you a Christian?

Don't answer if you don't want to. The basic premise of being a Christian is, as you know, accepting Jesus came to save you. It also means believing that the Bible is the holy inspired Word of God. As I said earlier, if one doesn't believe this about the Bible, then using Christian doctrine in the argument over gay rights is irrelevant.

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I used to be.....but I renounced that belief a couple years ago when I realized how nonsensical a lot of it really is, something I am seeing from your posts here as this is going forward that you may be beginning to realize as well.

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Ajk,

I'm sorry to hear that you renounced Christianity. When I was in my early teens, my church performed a drama. It was about judgement day and what happens. In one of the scenes, a former Christian is being judged. When asked why she left the Church, she complained about hypocrites. She said Church was full of hypocrites and she just couldn't stand it. When asked why she stopped believing in God, she said again, hypocrites. Since she didn't want to be associated with so many hypocrites, she decided she wouldn't believe in what they believed. Well, she was sent to Hell. At Hell's Gate, the Devil met her. In his welcome speech, he boasted about how he looooved hypocrites. It is the damn hypocrites that keep converting more and more Christians to the Devil's side.

Haha...just remembered that. I think I decided at the time that nothing would stop me from believing. Because of that, I am now able to discern what is nonsensical, research that which I do not understand and gain knowledge. In my quest, I've discovered many things about the Church that are pure fiction and hypocritical. Even about texts in the Bible, when taken literally. But I have also come to really love and respect the man Jesus a lot more. I have also come through my own life experiences to know not only that God exists but that if I search hard enough, I will find Him.

You search. If you don't understand, keep searching. Don't let anybody take away your faith.

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Oh I still believe in God I just came to realize the God of Christianity and of the Bible isn't the real one. God in reality is bigger than to be limited to one belief system and book, and also more loving as well. So my faith didn't go away, just where I placed it.

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so you're basically telling them they can't be who they are......yeah that's loving isn't it? What if someone said to you you couldn't act on your heterosexual desires, would you like that much? Somehow I don't think so......