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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77394 United States 02/28/2008 04:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For us less 'focused'... Buddah knew the limits of his knowledge. Quoting: femto 145814Believe nothing on the faith of traditions, even though they have been held in honor for many generations and in diverse places. Do not believe a thing because many people speak of it. Do not believe on the faith of the sages of the past. Do not believe what you yourself have imagined, persuading yourself that a God inspires you. Believe nothing on the sole authority of your masters and priests. After examination, believe what you yourself have tested and found to be reasonable, and conform your conduct thereto. .....delicious. .c |
Divinity (OP) User ID: 367835 Spain 02/28/2008 04:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is one thing about that those that manifest; there is never any doubt in their hearts. Quoting: Lotus FeetLotus Very true! "Aether is a Quantum 2 Spin Rotating Magnetic Field that encapsulates Primary Angular Momentum and via Tensegrity forms Matter with resulting Quantum 1/2 spin. "PHI is the direct result and first Ratio produced by this arrangement as it Cycles." Junglelord, www.thunderbolts.info Here comes the Golden Age. "Thought being a given is the first assertion of self-awareness; the remaining truth is simply "I am, therefore there is". Self and other, subject and object." Eyeam "Remember me as I AM." My Brother |
Darza User ID: 378572 Netherlands 02/28/2008 04:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They are true to their will. They are as stars in their natural orbit. Does the Earth consider her movement around the Sun? Quoting: SkytoucherThey have no will, just looks like that from the perspective of those who have it, who think "i exist". They are not separated from reality, they see themselves everywhere. They are witnessing creating. Myself, i am still growing in this awareness. We are together in this understanding, words get in the way of meaning. We are both creation and created. There is only 1, not 2. To say that 'I' have no 'will' is to say that 'will' does not exist. That is the mystery eh? To be both one and separate at the same time. Skytoucher, so you know how difficult it is to explain in 3d language, i cannot even do it in my native language. Lol I really hope you will post more often. |
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Darza User ID: 378572 Netherlands 02/28/2008 04:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is one thing about that those that manifest; there is never any doubt in their hearts. Quoting: LotusI am still limited in knowing, but according to me this sentence is chaos. We all manifest, whether we are aware of it or not. Doubt is something from the mind, left-right thing, the mind needs friction to exist. Nobody has any doubt in their hearts, the heart is without any doubt, it is doubtless. |
Divinity (OP) User ID: 367835 Spain 02/28/2008 04:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oannes...thank you for my gift!!!! 'tis Beautiful! Hugs! Div xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx "Aether is a Quantum 2 Spin Rotating Magnetic Field that encapsulates Primary Angular Momentum and via Tensegrity forms Matter with resulting Quantum 1/2 spin. "PHI is the direct result and first Ratio produced by this arrangement as it Cycles." Junglelord, www.thunderbolts.info Here comes the Golden Age. "Thought being a given is the first assertion of self-awareness; the remaining truth is simply "I am, therefore there is". Self and other, subject and object." Eyeam "Remember me as I AM." My Brother |
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Divinity (OP) User ID: 367835 Spain 02/28/2008 04:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is one thing about that those that manifest; there is never any doubt in their hearts. Quoting: DarzaI am still limited in knowing, but according to me this sentence is chaos. We all manifest, whether we are aware of it or not. Doubt is something from the mind, left-right thing, the mind needs friction to exist. Nobody has any doubt in their hearts, the heart is without any doubt, it is doubtless. I think (therefore, I am, hahahaha) Lotus meant 'those who manifest abundance easily' (the Donald Trumps/Richard Bransons/Bill Gates of the world). I agree because there is one thing in common all millionaires/billionaires have, despite their various religious, spiritual, beliefs or morals. They all KNOW what they're going to do and they do it, without question. I recall the story of the young lad who created the Pokemon creatures. His mother used to worry because all he cared about was computer games and insects. LOL! a couple of years later, he created Pokemon....the boy never had any doubt he would be successful. Will, self-belief, no doubt at all - these seem to play a key part in success of any kind (relationships no different). Love Div xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx "Aether is a Quantum 2 Spin Rotating Magnetic Field that encapsulates Primary Angular Momentum and via Tensegrity forms Matter with resulting Quantum 1/2 spin. "PHI is the direct result and first Ratio produced by this arrangement as it Cycles." Junglelord, www.thunderbolts.info Here comes the Golden Age. "Thought being a given is the first assertion of self-awareness; the remaining truth is simply "I am, therefore there is". Self and other, subject and object." Eyeam "Remember me as I AM." My Brother |
Darza User ID: 378572 Netherlands 02/28/2008 04:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Buddha knew the limits of the human mind, he investigated thoroughly. So it was not his knowledge what was limited, his abillity to transfer it to others was. Quoting: femto 145814That has to be a guess Darza. IE: He knew more than he told. Did he know love? How to explain love to one not aware? This is not so easy. And when you meet someone who does not know about love, what will you want to give to this person? He knew everything needed to become Buddha. He lived from the heart, no guesswork there. Consciousness knows everything. |
Divinity (OP) User ID: 367835 Spain 02/28/2008 05:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not meaning to be pedantic, but are you guys saying that 'Will' is an illusion? "Aether is a Quantum 2 Spin Rotating Magnetic Field that encapsulates Primary Angular Momentum and via Tensegrity forms Matter with resulting Quantum 1/2 spin. "PHI is the direct result and first Ratio produced by this arrangement as it Cycles." Junglelord, www.thunderbolts.info Here comes the Golden Age. "Thought being a given is the first assertion of self-awareness; the remaining truth is simply "I am, therefore there is". Self and other, subject and object." Eyeam "Remember me as I AM." My Brother |
Darza User ID: 378572 Netherlands 02/28/2008 05:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think (therefore, I am, hahahaha) Lotus meant 'those who manifest abundance easily' (the Donald Trumps/Richard Bransons/Bill Gates of the world). I agree because there is one thing in common all millionaires/billionaires have, despite their various religious, spiritual, beliefs or morals. They all KNOW what they're going to do and they do it, without question. Quoting: DivinityI assumed Lotus meant the teachers like Buddha and Jesus. This is funny, shows how a different reality we still have. I am curious about what Lotus will say. In general, the millionaires/billionaires do not know anything. They spend their entire life on gaining more of the stuff they will have to leave behind upon death, it is a waste of time. In the mean time they worry, have many enemies, dangers etc. They are prisoners of paper that does not even exist, it is a trick of a magician. We on this thread, we talk of love, freedom, the new world, we study, do research, share, reflect, heal and more. And still some are not happy. |
Divinity (OP) User ID: 367835 Spain 02/28/2008 05:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Did he know love? How to explain love to one not aware? This is not so easy. Quoting: DarzaAnd when you meet someone who does not know about love, what will you want to give to this person? He knew everything needed to become Buddha. He lived from the heart, no guesswork there. Consciousness knows everything. True, Darza. I'd want to give the person love of self first, probably by showing them they are love/loveable. "Aether is a Quantum 2 Spin Rotating Magnetic Field that encapsulates Primary Angular Momentum and via Tensegrity forms Matter with resulting Quantum 1/2 spin. "PHI is the direct result and first Ratio produced by this arrangement as it Cycles." Junglelord, www.thunderbolts.info Here comes the Golden Age. "Thought being a given is the first assertion of self-awareness; the remaining truth is simply "I am, therefore there is". Self and other, subject and object." Eyeam "Remember me as I AM." My Brother |
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Divinity (OP) User ID: 367835 Spain 02/28/2008 05:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I assumed Lotus meant the teachers like Buddha and Jesus. Quoting: DarzaThis is funny, shows how a different reality we still have. I am curious about what Lotus will say. In general, the millionaires/billionaires do not know anything. They spend their entire life on gaining more of the stuff they will have to leave behind upon death, it is a waste of time. In the mean time they worry, have many enemies, dangers etc. They are prisoners of paper that does not even exist, it is a trick of a magician. We on this thread, we talk of love, freedom, the new world, we study, do research, share, reflect, heal and more. And still some are not happy. I disagree with you, Darza, on this because if you take just Gates....how can you say his work was a waste of time and he didn't know anything? It's Microsoft Windows that got us here (most of us); his belief there would be a pc in every household made it happen, surely? It's hard to generalise. Surely the person at the top has more freedom than the person on the assembly line? i.e. more hours in the day to do what they wish? Some wish to push paper and act important and others wish to spend their time/dollars at a casino. Yes, we are the lucky ones (IMO) because we know/talk of love, freedom, the new world and we can share with our friends (who are quality people). I am happy. Smile! Div xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx "Aether is a Quantum 2 Spin Rotating Magnetic Field that encapsulates Primary Angular Momentum and via Tensegrity forms Matter with resulting Quantum 1/2 spin. "PHI is the direct result and first Ratio produced by this arrangement as it Cycles." Junglelord, www.thunderbolts.info Here comes the Golden Age. "Thought being a given is the first assertion of self-awareness; the remaining truth is simply "I am, therefore there is". Self and other, subject and object." Eyeam "Remember me as I AM." My Brother |
Darza User ID: 378572 Netherlands 02/28/2008 05:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Did he know love? How to explain love to one not aware? This is not so easy. Quoting: DivinityAnd when you meet someone who does not know about love, what will you want to give to this person? He knew everything needed to become Buddha. He lived from the heart, no guesswork there. Consciousness knows everything. True, Darza. I'd want to give the person love of self first, probably by showing them they are love/loveable. Div, this seems pretty close to Buddhahood. Lol Won't be long and i will be surrounded by Buddha's, that is my perspective. I am going to play with Buddha's. Amazing, awe and wonder. |
Divinity (OP) User ID: 367835 Spain 02/28/2008 05:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Our theories of the eternal are as valuable as are those which a chick which has not broken its way through its shell might form of the outside world." Quoting: femto 145814We know nothing on this subject now. We will when we hatch. He knew. Love. "Aether is a Quantum 2 Spin Rotating Magnetic Field that encapsulates Primary Angular Momentum and via Tensegrity forms Matter with resulting Quantum 1/2 spin. "PHI is the direct result and first Ratio produced by this arrangement as it Cycles." Junglelord, www.thunderbolts.info Here comes the Golden Age. "Thought being a given is the first assertion of self-awareness; the remaining truth is simply "I am, therefore there is". Self and other, subject and object." Eyeam "Remember me as I AM." My Brother |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77394 United States 02/28/2008 05:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We on this thread, we talk of love, freedom, the new world, we study, do research, share, reflect, heal and more. Quoting: DarzaAnd still some are not happy. yes, and we have ALL that for free, while milionaires/bilionares have to buy that "feelings" and "experiencess" with their wads of money, for they do not know, that it is FREE FOR ALL.. so clever they are... .c |
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Divinity (OP) User ID: 367835 Spain 02/28/2008 05:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Div, this seems pretty close to Buddhahood. Lol Quoting: DarzaWon't be long and i will be surrounded by Buddha's, that is my perspective. I am going to play with Buddha's. Amazing, awe and wonder. Reflected right back atchyer, Buddha Darza! Didn't Sunpar tell us we were all Masters, LOL!!! I love Darza, "Aether is a Quantum 2 Spin Rotating Magnetic Field that encapsulates Primary Angular Momentum and via Tensegrity forms Matter with resulting Quantum 1/2 spin. "PHI is the direct result and first Ratio produced by this arrangement as it Cycles." Junglelord, www.thunderbolts.info Here comes the Golden Age. "Thought being a given is the first assertion of self-awareness; the remaining truth is simply "I am, therefore there is". Self and other, subject and object." Eyeam "Remember me as I AM." My Brother |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77394 United States 02/28/2008 05:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I disagree with you, Darza, on this because if you take just Gates....how can you say his work was a waste of time and he didn't know anything? It's Microsoft Windows that got us here (most of us); his belief there would be a pc in every household made it happen, surely? Quoting: DivinitySmile! Div xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx . He did brilliant job for humanity so far. He done it with his engineering/mathemathical mind. Now, if he could just grasp with that mind that holding close to 60 billions dollars, just for a security purpose, while the same 60 billion dollars would eradicate hunger in 'few' villages around the globe, well, this Gates would have open gates in my book. ...Too bad, too sad, he is trickling down. .c |
Divinity (OP) User ID: 367835 Spain 02/28/2008 05:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yes, and we have ALL that for free, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77394while milionaires/bilionares have to buy that "feelings" and "experiencess" with their wads of money, for they do not know, that it is FREE FOR ALL.. so clever they are... .c Aha, this is where the internet is a GREAT leveller. None of us REALLY know who we are talking to, do we? I could be H.M. Elizabeth and you could be Robert Redford! This experience is (almost) free and it is a miracle; the next best thing to telepathy. I think we make a mistake to judge 'all millionaires' or 'all' anything as everyone is individual. Some buy their friendships, others may be genuinely warm, lovely and generous people, and yet others are gangsters, LOL! Poor, rich, it's a similar game in that respect, I think. You can't buy sincerity. Love Div xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx "Aether is a Quantum 2 Spin Rotating Magnetic Field that encapsulates Primary Angular Momentum and via Tensegrity forms Matter with resulting Quantum 1/2 spin. "PHI is the direct result and first Ratio produced by this arrangement as it Cycles." Junglelord, www.thunderbolts.info Here comes the Golden Age. "Thought being a given is the first assertion of self-awareness; the remaining truth is simply "I am, therefore there is". Self and other, subject and object." Eyeam "Remember me as I AM." My Brother |
Darza User ID: 378572 Netherlands 02/28/2008 05:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bill Gates? After telepathy he will be out of work. His properties will vaporise. Consciousness used BG as a component of this thread. Many other souls could do what he did. His contribution to us talking of love and freedom is only relative. If you believe society you will think he is important. They think i am crazy. Lol |
Divinity (OP) User ID: 367835 Spain 02/28/2008 05:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Div, these things i know of love. Quoting: DarzaIf you do not know love you know nothing If you you know love you go after it It is the addiction of addictions It is the strongest force in the universe. Hahahahaha, hmmmm. I agree, it is an addiction and yet it really shouldn't be. Perhaps we are addicted to how WE feel when we love, and that must mean we feel like that all the time in our ORIGINAL state (wow!). Yes to the strongest force, for sure. If you do not know love, you know nothing...not sure about that. I think you probably need to know fear, hatred, pain, grief and all that in order to know love or, sometimes, even to gain love. Deeeeeeeep! "Aether is a Quantum 2 Spin Rotating Magnetic Field that encapsulates Primary Angular Momentum and via Tensegrity forms Matter with resulting Quantum 1/2 spin. "PHI is the direct result and first Ratio produced by this arrangement as it Cycles." Junglelord, www.thunderbolts.info Here comes the Golden Age. "Thought being a given is the first assertion of self-awareness; the remaining truth is simply "I am, therefore there is". Self and other, subject and object." Eyeam "Remember me as I AM." My Brother |
Divinity (OP) User ID: 367835 Spain 02/28/2008 05:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Div, these things i know of love. Quoting: Divinity[link to www.youtube.com] Do it to me one more time - L. Richie Me...I'm more Venus than Buddha, LOL! Buddha's not romantic enough, hahahaha. :dancinggod: "Aether is a Quantum 2 Spin Rotating Magnetic Field that encapsulates Primary Angular Momentum and via Tensegrity forms Matter with resulting Quantum 1/2 spin. "PHI is the direct result and first Ratio produced by this arrangement as it Cycles." Junglelord, www.thunderbolts.info Here comes the Golden Age. "Thought being a given is the first assertion of self-awareness; the remaining truth is simply "I am, therefore there is". Self and other, subject and object." Eyeam "Remember me as I AM." My Brother |
Darza User ID: 378572 Netherlands 02/28/2008 06:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I agree, it is an addiction and yet it really shouldn't be. Perhaps we are addicted to how WE feel when we love, and that must mean we feel like that all the time in our ORIGINAL state (wow!) Quoting: Divinity24/7 If you do not know love, you know nothing...not sure about that. I think you probably need to know fear, hatred, pain, grief and all that in order to know love or, sometimes, even to gain love. Quoting: DivinityDeeeeeeeep! Ok, but once you know love, there is no more need for fear, hatred etc. btw i did not say "all millionairs" i said "in general". This is your monkey-mind at work. It is self protection. Normally i do not correct anyone, i do not do arguing. I am just trying to point you to the workings of the mind. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77394 United States 02/28/2008 06:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yes, and we have ALL that for free, Quoting: Divinitywhile milionaires/bilionares have to buy that "feelings" and "experiencess" with their wads of money, for they do not know, that it is FREE FOR ALL.. so clever they are... .c Aha, this is where the Internet is a GREAT leveller. None of us REALLY know who we are talking to, do we? I could be H.M. Elizabeth and you could be Robert Redford! This experience is (almost) free and it is a miracle; the next best thing to telepathy. I think we make a mistake to judge 'all millionaires' or 'all' anything as everyone is individual. Some buy their friendships, others may be genuinely warm, lovely and generous people, and yet others are gangsters, LOL! Poor, rich, it's a similar game in that respect, I think. You can't buy sincerity. Love Div xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx . Marvelous statements, Div. I'm not putting down wealthy here. After all, artists been supported by their grace and generosity forever. But those wealthy learned for generations, that thrift, and measure in spending, (10% to God) is the way to gather more. There is no reason in the world for the human to have 10 million dollars licence plate, or 60 billions dollars stored in the bank, lining the pockets of the ALL involved in the gathering, when just next to you is someone hungry, cold and without bed. Priority are screwed up amongst the wealthiest of this world. yes, Globally. Understand, please, that I do not covet that wealth. I am just searching for that something which seems to be lost in the lifes of those who experience wealth, and replaced by greed, so attachement to possession became a rights of passage. .c |
Divinity (OP) User ID: 367835 Spain 02/28/2008 06:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He did brilliant job for humanity so far. He done it with his engineering/mathemathical mind. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77394Now, if he could just grasp with that mind that holding close to 60 billions dollars, just for a security purpose, while the same 60 billion dollars would eradicate hunger in 'few' villages around the globe, well, this Gates would have open gates in my book. ...Too bad, too sad, he is trickling down. .c I think he is, Caruso. I don't think we know enough about what the wealthy are doing with their spare cash. In his case, there's the Gates Foundation. I believe he very wisely, in my opinion, is going to limit his children's inheritance because he doesn't want them 'ruined'...and the rest goes to his Foundation. As you say, 60bn would feed a few but perhaps he's working at a higher level, behind the scenes to lobby for policy change? For example, it's more effective to work at the top or within a system than it is to plaster over the cracks at the grass roots level. Who knows? We can't judge - we have to give all individuals the same privilege - of being who they wish to be, without judgement. At least with him, he doesn't intentionally 'corrupt' although, of course, once you have that kind of power, you do all you can to keep it. That's why his company have been fined over a billion just this week, LOL! Love Div xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx "Aether is a Quantum 2 Spin Rotating Magnetic Field that encapsulates Primary Angular Momentum and via Tensegrity forms Matter with resulting Quantum 1/2 spin. "PHI is the direct result and first Ratio produced by this arrangement as it Cycles." Junglelord, www.thunderbolts.info Here comes the Golden Age. "Thought being a given is the first assertion of self-awareness; the remaining truth is simply "I am, therefore there is". Self and other, subject and object." Eyeam "Remember me as I AM." My Brother |