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Calling LIGHTWORKERS! A Meeting Place !

 
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In lucid dreaming the waking state is called "Lucid Waking" (4th gateway I think).
 Quoting: Leela


UPDATE:
I just checked on Somananda's 4th gateway -- it isn't Lucid Waking". (It is however like the kind of dreaming I know.)
"Lucid Waking", which I don't experience, is something I've found in Castaneda's Don Juan, and other sources.
Femto was also talking around something like this earlier.
I think, however, it is different to a blissful 'dreamlike' awareness, which is really just having a very quiet mind.
hf Leela

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Dear message in a bottle,

Divvy mentioned my chiming in with some astrology with you ~ but we already covered some of that last night with Leo (Regulus) conjoining Canopus and Sirius (Cancer) and Gemini.

I'd love to add something, but my sense is that you are centered and knowing pretty much right up front, lol. I feel your Falcon Medicine shape-shifting into Hawk... and you ride a little Panther too, lol. Blessings, Wasayo


Thanks for your help Astrolabe and Darza. Check out this pic!

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Wow or wow!
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Dear Divvy, Darza, messages, and everyone,

I'm having fun connecting the cosmic dots...

From this diagram (on Page 1209) of the Milky Way, it looks like the Sphinx is sitting in front of the middle star of the Belt of Orion ~ Alnilam... and it is pointing straight to Regulus in the heart of the Lion (Leo). When the constellation Leo is portrayed, the Lion is usually in a sitting position, just like the Sphinx. Interesting. Wasayo

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Fixed star: ALNILAM

Constellation: Epsilon Orion

Longitude 1900: 22GEM04. Longitude 2000: 23GEM28.
Declination 1900: -01.16'. Declination 2000: -01.12'.
Right ascension: 05h36m. Latitude: -24.30'.
Spectral class: B0. Magnitude: 1.8.
Suggested orb: 1 deg. approx. Planetary nature: Jup-Sat


History of the star: A brilliant white star occupying the central position in Orion's belt.

This star, along with Alnitak and Mintaka form the Belt of Orion. Robson gave separate influences for Alnilam and Mintaka and for the two combined under Cingula Orionis.

The Arabic name for Alnilam or Al Nitham is An-Nidham, "The string of pearls".

It was also called "the Bullions set in the middle of Orion's Belt".

It portended fleeting public honors to those born under its influence. (Allen).


The Belt of Orion: Epsilon Alnilam zeta Alnitak and delta Mintaka form the Belt of Orion. One of the most obvious features people see in the sky is the three stars that form the "belt" across the middle of Orion; three stars in a row that appear to us of almost equal size and of equal distance from each other; Mintaka, the westernmost star in the belt, comes from the Arabic word for "belt"; Alnilam, this center star in the belt, means "a belt of pearls"; and Alnitak, the eastern-most star, means the girdle.

Known to the Arabs as the Golden Nuts, referring to walnuts.

The Bible makes reference to this famous group. God, while pointing out how all-powerful he was, asked Job if he was able to "loose the bands of Orion" (Job 38.31).

They were known in various cultures as; the "Line", the "Golden Grains", "Nuts", or "Spangles", "The Vertebrae in the Jauzah's back". "The Vagina", or "Scabbard"; "The Three-jointed Arrow"; "Rectitude," Jacob "Rod" or "Staff", "Distaff";

Seamen have called it the "Golden Yard-arm"; Tradesmen; the "Yard", the "Yard-stick", and the "Yard-wand"; Catholics; "Our Lady's Wand"; and French farmers; Rateau, the "Rake".

To the Arabs as, "Accurate Scale-beam". The Chinese similarly knew them as a Weighing-beam, with the stars of the sword as a weight at one end.

The ancient Jews sometimes called these stars "Nimrod", a biblical figure who was bound to the heavens for disobeying God, whence perhaps came the "Bands", or "Bonds", of Orion, which some say should be "Cords", or a "Girdle". But the conception of Nimrod as "the mighty Hunter before the Lord," at least in the ordinary sense of that word, is erroneous, for the original, according to universal Eastern tradition, signifies "a Lurking Enemy", or a Hunter of men rather than of beasts. This idea may have led to a Latin title, Venator, for the stellar Orion.

It is often" the Magi", the "Three Kings", the "Three Marys", or simply the "Three Stars".

The celestial equator now passes through the Belt, but was 12° below it 4000 years ago. (Starnames, Their Lore and Meaning, Richard Hinchley Allen, 1889).

Influences of the constellation: It is said to give a strong and dignified nature, self-confidence, inconstancy, arrogance, violence, impiety, and prosperity in trade and particularly in voyages or abroad, but danger of treachery and poison. It was thought by the Romans to be very harmful to cattle and productive of storms. By the Kabalists it is associated with the Hebrew letter Aleph and the 1st Tarot Trump "The Juggler". (The Fixed Stars and Constellations in Astrology, Vivian E. Robson 1923).

General influences of the star: It gives fleeting public honors. (The Fixed Stars and Constellations in Astrology, Vivian E. Robson 1923).

General influences of the Cingula Orionis (Orion's Belt): The joint influence is to give strength, energy, industry, organizing abilities, notoriety, good fortune, lasting happiness, a sharp mind and a good memory. (The Fixed Stars and Constellations in Astrology, Vivian E. Robson 1923).

Rising: Orion will fashion alert minds and agile bodies, souls prompt to respond to duty's call, and hearts which press on with unflagging energy in spite of every trial. A son of Orion's will be worth a multitude and will seem to dwell in every quarter of the city; flying from door to door with the one word of morning greeting, he will enjoy the friendship of all. (Astronomica, Manilius, 1st century AD).

Cingula Orionis rising: Legacies, love or dissipation, gravity and austerity. (The Fixed Stars and Constellations in Astrology, Vivian E. Robson 1923).

Alnilam with the Sun: Rash, headstrong, surly. If also culminating, military preferment and gain. (Robson).

Cingula Orionis with Sun: Notoriety, good fortune, lasting happiness. (The Fixed Stars and Constellations in Astrology, Vivian E. Robson 1923).

Cingula Orionis with Moon: Blindness of at least one eye, new and influential friends, valuable gifts, love of respectable women. (The Fixed Stars and Constellations in Astrology, Vivian E. Robson 1923).


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Fixed star: REGULUS Cor Leonis, Kalb

Constellation: Alpha Leo

Longitude 1900: 28LEO26. Longitude 2000: 29LEO50.
Declination 1900: +12.27'. Declination 2000: +11.58'.
Right ascension: 10h08m. Latitude: +00.27'.
Spectral class: B7. Magnitude: 1.35 .
Suggested orb: 1 deg. approx. Planetary nature: Mar-Jup


History of the star: A triple star, 1.7, 8.5, and 13, flushed white and ultramarine in Leo. Regulus, Rex, Basilica Stella; Regia; Basiliscus were the Roman titles.

There was a belief that it ruled the affairs of the heavens. Thus, as Sharru, "the King", it marked the 15th ecliptic constellation of Babylonia; in Sogdiana, Magh, "the Great"; in Persia, Miyan, "the Centre"; among the Turanian races, Masu, "the Hero"; and in Akkadia it was associated with the 5th antediluvian "King of the celestial sphere", Amil-gal-ur, …. A Ninevite tablet has: "If the star of the great lion is gloomy the heart of the people will not rejoice."

Sharing the character of its constellation Leo as the Domicilium Solig, in Euphratean astronomy it was Gus-ba-ra, "the Flame", or "the Red Fire", of the House of the East; in Khorasmia, Achir, "Possessing Luminous Rays".

Among the lunar-mansion stars, it was chief in the Hindu 8th nakshatra that bore its name in India as Magha, "the Mighty". In Arabia, with gamma, zeta, and eta of the Sickle, it was the 8th manzil, Al Jabhah, the Forehead.

In Arabia it was Malikiyy, "Kingly"; and Al Kalb al Asad, "the Heart of the Lion".

Robson said it was symbolically called "The Crushing Foot".

It was one of the four stars of the ancient Persian monarchy, in 3000 BC, when as watcher of the north it marked the summer solstice. It was seen as one of the Four Guardians of Heaven; one who regulated all things in the heavens; sentinels watching over other stars. This was from the belief that it ruled the affairs of the heavens; a belief current, till three centuries ago, from at least 3000 years before our era.

This is one of the four key stars in the heavens, also called archangel stars, assigning:

Tasoheter - Michael (Aldebaran) watcher of the East;

Satevis - Oriel (Antares) Watcher of the West;

Hastorang - Gabriel (Fomalhaut) watcher of the South;

Venant - Raphael The Healing Archangel (Regulus) Watcher of the North.

They have been characterized as Horses, reflected both in the famed Four Horsemen of Apocalypse (Revelations 6) and Chariot Horses in the Book of Zechariah.

At one time these four stars marked the two Equinoxes and two Solstices. Aldebaran marked the zero Aries point in 3044 BC, Antares marked zero Libra 3052 BC, Fomalhaut marked zero Capricorn, 2582 BC, Regulus marked zero Cancer 2345 BC.

Early English astrologers made Regulus a portent of glory, riches, and power to all born under its influence. Proclus wrote: "The Lyon's heart is called of some men, the Royal Star, for they that are born under it, are thought to have a royal nativity." (Starnames, Their Lore and Meaning, Richard Hinchley Allen, 1889).

Regulus enters the sign Virgo in 2012 AD. It entered the sign Leo in 156 BC.

Influences of the 8th manzil (Moon Mansion): Strengthens buildings, promotes love, benevolence, and help against enemies. (The Fixed Stars and Constellations in Astrology, Vivian E. Robson, 1923).

Influences of the constellation: The Lion is associated with the Hebrew letter Kaph and the 11th Tarot Trump "Strength". (The Fixed Stars and Constellations in Astrology, Vivian E. Robson, 1923).

Rising: Who can doubt the nature of the monstrous Lion, and the pursuits he prescribes for those born beneath his sign? The lion ever devises fresh fights and fresh warfare on animals, and lives on spoil and pillaging of flocks. The sons of the Lion are filled with the urge to adorn their proud portals with pelts and to hang up on their walls the captured prey, to bring the peace of terror to the woods, and to live upon plunder. There are those whose like bent is not checked by the city-gates, but they swagger about in the heart of the capital with droves of beasts; they display mangled limbs at the shop-front, slaughter to meet the demands of luxury, and count it gain to kill. Their temper is equally prone to fitful wrath and ready withdrawal, and guileless are the sentiments of their honest hearts. [Manilius, Astronomica, 1st century AD, p.237]

General influences of the star: According to Ptolemy it is of the nature of Mars and Jupiter, but most later authors liken it to mars only, while Alvidas states that it is similar to the Sun in good aspect to Uranus. It gives violence, destructiveness, military honor of short duration, with ultimate failure, success, high and lofty ideals and strength, of spirit, and makes its natives magnanimous, grandly liberal, generous, ambitious, fond of power, desirous of command, high-spirited and independent. (The Fixed Stars and Constellations in Astrology, Vivian E. Robson, 1923).

It may convey royal properties, noble mind, frankness, courage. The importance of this star is accentuated by its nearness to the ecliptic. Its effect is in the best sense that of Jupiter and Mars. On the Ascendant, it will give a courageous and frank character, especially if in conjunction with the Sun, Moon, Jupiter or Mercury. Positioned on the MC, Regulus will raise the native to high positions in life, positions far exceeding the environment the native was born into. On the MC it is not only a good omen for a military career, but also for careers connected with the public, such as lawyers, civil servants, bankers and the clergy, especially if Regulus is also in conjunction with the Sun or Moon or with a benefic stellar body. According to tradition, Regulus conjunct MC will bring with it connections with rulers, honorable people or famous people. If the cosmogram as a whole points to this possibility, Jupiter conjunct Regulus is one of the best configurations for success. People like this can reach high positions, positions of trust, preferment and favors; fortunes. Riches and power could fall to these natives easily. Elsbeth Ebertin had this star near the MC (the author of this book, 'Fixed Stars and Their Interpretations' and mother of Reinhold Ebertin author of 'C.O.S.I.'). An old saying goes that Regulus in the 10th house 'makes astrologers to kings. people in high positions and noble men'. Naturally not everyone who has this configuration will make a 'Royal Astrologer' even if he has the necessary knowledge and capabilities. But with Frau Ebertin, this rule was borne out. During the first world war, her book 'Royal Nativities' was published. There followed commissions from royal houses and ruling industrialists (listed in the book Fixed Stars and their Interpretations by Ebertin-Hoffman). Elsbeth Ebertin studied historical events with the planetary configurations in each case and came to the follow conclusion; "when Mars or Saturn are in conjunction with Regulus, especially exciting events are always recorded e.g. assassinations, coup detat, revolutions, revolts, demonstrations, overthrow of heads of state and similar events". (The Fixed Stars and Their Interpretations, Ebertin-Hoffman, originally published in 1928.).

If rising: Great honor and wealth, but violence and trouble, favour of the great, victory over enemies and scandal. The 145th Consideration of Guido Bonnets is as follows: -" That thou see in Diurnal Nativities whether Cor Leonis be in the Ascendant, that is to say, in the Oriental Line or above it one degree or below it three degrees; or whether it be in the tenth in like degrees, without the Conjunction or Aspect of any of the Fortunes, for this alone signifies that the Native shall be a person of great note and power, too much exalted, and attain to high preferment and honors, although descended from the meanest parents. And, if any of the Fortunes behold that place also, his glory shall be the more increased; but, if the Nativity be nocturnal, his fortune will be somewhat meaner, but not much; but if the Infortunes cast their aspects there it will still be more mean; but if the Fortunes behold it also they will augment the good promised a fourth part, and mitigate the evil as much; yet still, whatever of all this happens, it signifies that the Native shall die an unhappy death; or at least that all his honors, greatness and power shall at last suffer an eclipse and set in a cloud". (The Fixed Stars and Constellations in Astrology, Vivian E. Robson, 1923).

If culminating: Honor, preferment, good for tune, high office under Government, military success. If with Sun, Moon or Jupiter, great honor and ample fortune. (The Fixed Stars and Constellations in Astrology, Vivian E. Robson, 1923).

With Sun: Power, authority, great influence over friends, honor and riches, but violence, trouble, benefits seldom last. (The Fixed Stars and Constellations in Astrology, Vivian E. Robson, 1923).

With Moon: Occult interests, powerful friends, danger from enemies and false friends, gain by speculation, public prominence, great power, honor, wealth, benefits seldom last. Make women high spirited and independent. If at the same time the Sun is with the Dragon's Head in Gemini, or Jupiter is in the 10th house in trine to Mars and the Sun is with the Dragon's Head, great preferment even from the lowest sphere to high rank. (The Fixed Stars and Constellations in Astrology, Vivian E. Robson, 1923).

With Mercury: Honorable, just, popular, generosity abused by opponents, fame, gain through high position. (The Fixed Stars and Constellations in Astrology, Vivian E. Robson, 1923).

With Venus: Many disappointments, unexpected happenings, violent attachments, trouble through love affairs. (The Fixed Stars and Constellations in Astrology, Vivian E. Robson, 1923).

With Mars: Honor, fame, strong character public prominence, high military command. (The Fixed Stars and Constellations in Astrology, Vivian E. Robson, 1923).

With Jupiter: Fame, high preferment, especially of a military nature, success in the Church. (The Fixed Stars and Constellations in Astrology, Vivian E. Robson, 1923).

With Saturn: Just, friends among clergy, success in Church or law, scholarly, wealth, gain through speculation, companies and friends, high position, proud of home and family, good health, heart trouble at end of life. If angular and especially if rising or culminating, public honor and credit. If Mars be with the Pleiades, violent death in a tumult. (The Fixed Stars and Constellations in Astrology, Vivian E. Robson, 1923).

With Uranus: Energetic, ambitious, successful, may be unjust or dishonorable, self-aggrandizement, high official position, panders to aristocracy, associated with religion for business purposes, gain through speculation and companies, favorable for marriage, may retire and live in seclusion. (The Fixed Stars and Constellations in Astrology, Vivian E. Robson, 1923).

With Neptune: Prominent leader, lawgiver, diplomatic, strong character, control over others, influential friends, few if any enemies, domestic harmony, natural death in old age. (The Fixed Stars and Constellations in Astrology, Vivian E. Robson, 1923).


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When others believe you cause their misery
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Student: "How can you help a person who believes that you are making them miserable?"

Seth: "Leave them alone!"

Student: "Wait, let me finish, - and they believe that you are making them miserable. How can you help them change that belief, to see that they themselves are doing it without...how can you help someone to see that they create their own reality, or to accept that in this tenet?

Seth: "First of all, if they believe that you're causing them misery, then you should leave them alone. It is the best help that you can give them at that time. It is false sympathy to do otherwise.
You are
not helping. The help now can come, but while that belief is held it cannot come from you."

Student: "Even with my own thoughts, or whatever my beliefs are,

without coming near this person, how can my attitude, my thoughts, or whatever I direct toward this person, help them change that belief?"

Seth: "Then, in your own mind, imagine them realizing that they form their own reality, and, in your mind, see this realization on their part, and, otherwise, do nothing. You cannot force a belief on another person. You cannot know, as Ruburt would call it, the inward order of their events. You should not try to force your ideas upon them, or your beliefs.

Student: "Then you say, 'I'm not making you miserable, that way?'"

Seth: "Let them go their way, in their own way. You are your responsibility. Each person is his own responsibility. You are trying to prove a point. You want to help, but you are still trying to prove a point. You are settting up resistances and the more you insist that your way is right, the greater the barrier. Ideas are fluid, like water. Left alone, they will change. You set up a dam when you insist, "You must see it my way". Beliefs form reality.

Student: "What if I have never said that? But it may be that I take that attitude, in a certain way, but I don't think that it is that vocal and outspoken, but i understand that I am not the cause of this person's misery, or wish or not wish to live."

Seth: "Then let that be sufficient. The individual is using you also, and you are allowing it. As long as someone can point to you and say, "You are the cause of my misery", then they do not have to face themselves. And, as long as you play the game, you take part in it and you do not help. You do not have enough faith in the individual involved. They will find it their own way, in their own way, and joyfully take that for granted.

Now, this is not meant to be a question and answer format from all galleries and corners this evening. I simply wanted you to know that I was here. I got cornered!"

Seth class session - Sept. 18, 1973

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In Like a Lion out Like a Lamb?
The famous saying that most describes March is “if it comes in like a Lion it will go out like a Lamb”. Most consider this to be about the weather in March that is often spring like one day and a raging blizzard the next. In Guy Ottewell’s Astronomical Calendar he proposes this saying may have originated due to the Constellation of the Lion being at the Zenith (directly overhead) in the evening sky as the constellation of the Ram (lamb) is setting.

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Indeed they are Raised Crow...thank you.

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>>Hi divinity,thanks for the vids,my computer skills are at some what a disadvantage,please pardon my language,is that a light pole in the sky? also in the circle of the orion there are names like the leo cancer on an on in a circle with a triangel and a pole in the diagram i seen it somewere i just can not find it,also in the pyrimad center is there a shape of a flag and a pole,i thought i seen that on the discovery channel put i;m not sure,i know this is alot to ask you,but it realy means alot in world peace.on dec 21 2006 i was takin off the road by a light,the sky open up there was a mountian in the sky,a bar magnet raised up off went a set of wavy lines as in all ancient egypt carved in stones.the falcon and the hawk have guided me to places of great knowledge,my trust is in the lights,its like i have been tomb traviling to find my way,i am somewhat confussed,i had a flag in my hand that i made for world peace,also if it would be possible to transfer the vids to my thread,is there a message for us carved in stone somewhere.this flag reads unity peace freedom,it has a tree with 22 butterflys of the faiths with 13 roots,on the other side has all the natios flags, thank you very much for the vids,as i continue to find the truth of the feather,may this disk no be for truth 351,again thank you so much,please pardon my computer skills i'm a rooky,thanks to you agan divinity may we find the truth together in the quest for a better world,i remain two face lights on for i have many codes of honor,peace to you>>

Message, I wonder if I may ask some questions please?

Perhaps Wasayo and/or DWD can help us with the Astrology aspect.

"In the pyramid centre, is there a shape of a flag and pole?" I don't know...any offers, anyone?

Our trust is in the lights too and the plasma universe, which is quite obviously talking to you and trying to help you/us find the keys to something where we can reverse the energetic situation by use of the pyramid, to induce world peace. If we are in a 'time-out' situation, then it's plain to me that ALL are or will be striving for the same thing...world peace.

The bar magnet, wavy lines, the lights, and the messages carved in stone all relate to plasma phenomenon (ancient).

We will find truth together in the quest for a better world because we ALL have small pieces of the same puzzle. I acknowledge your codes of honour and thank you.

More in a moment,

Love Div
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I dont know if there is a shape of a flag are a pole,in the pyrimad.but if there was it would not be water shaft,or pole,it would be light activation i think? its like all of our bodys are controlled by the magnetics,planes cars motors,on my way to gulf shores a hawk circled my jeep at the same time my window went off track,i pulled over to stop,i know why the hawk done that,lader i hear there was a tornato up the road,these things in my life have been going on sinse my birth.
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Hi divinity left message.is there a message for us carved in stone,UNITY PEACE FREEDOM,its been nothing but flashes and splits sinse the mid 1980 for me,its like i have been a guide service for all walks of all nations,only to realize it in a secound,now i got to pack this conue across two more rivers,ATT SCOTTIE PLEASE BEAM ME UP!!!!! UNITY PEACE FREEDOM.
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Hi Leela, when interacting with another , depending on the subject, conscious state alters. It ranges from "normal" to all encompasing. IE: the person/the subject/me are the only 3 things in existance. When in this state , answers/knowing occur instantly, to quick to think about but never feeling they are not ones own. No loss of awarness of outside world and no change of demeanor.

What state is that classified as Leela, it is interesting to me.

Thank you.
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March 6, 2008: Imagine living on a planet where Northern Lights fill the heavens at all hours of the day. Around the clock, even in broad daylight, luminous curtains shimmer and ripple across the sky, mesmerizing anyone who bothers to look.

News flash: Astronomers have discovered such a planet. Its name is Earth.

"Our own planet has auroras 24 hours a day," says Jim Spann of the Marshall Space Flight Center, "and we can see them even in broad daylight." The trick, he explains, is picking the right wavelength. "If we look at Earth from space using an ultraviolet (UV) filter, we see there are auroras underway at all times. It is a beautiful sight."
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Hi Leela, when interacting with another , depending on the subject, conscious state alters. It ranges from "normal" to all encompasing. IE: the person/the subject/me are the only 3 things in existance. When in this state , answers/knowing occur instantly, to quick to think about but never feeling they are not ones own. No loss of awarness of outside world and no change of demeanor.

What state is that classified as Leela, it is interesting to me.

Thank you.
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Hi Femto!
Perhaps what you describe could be called a telepathic state?
I'd hate to classify it, however.... lol
Best to stay away from the labels, just have the experience without analysis.


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What a good day. Weird and not over yet. A good one though.
Ii have a MONSTER happy blossoming. Pointless to resist. Surrender to the smile becoming the laugh.

That`s it, happy here, lol, so is the spider. Did not know spiders could smile. Ha. ha. ha.. Now that IS wierd
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Ha ha ha , thats reminds me of someone I once knew.

Best to stay away from the labels,
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She said the song stairway to heaven had to many labels in it. Flipped out and walked off fuming. Lol.

Oh well.

See your point Leena . I will.
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Leena = Leela

See what happy does. Sorry Leela.
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Oh dear, more connection problems, sorry everyone!

Leela, I'm laughing with all this dreaming/waking debate; keep going! hf
Tone, thanks for the videos..they're great.hf
Wasayo, fantastic Astro - thanks!!hf
Allie, glad to see you! hf
Caruso, thanks for that..very useful to keep in mind with all conflict hf


Hi divinity left message.is there a message for us carved in stone,UNITY PEACE FREEDOM,its been nothing but flashes and splits sinse the mid 1980 for me,its like i have been a guide service for all walks of all nations,only to realize it in a second,now i got to pack this conue across two more rivers,ATT SCOTTIE PLEASE BEAM ME UP!!!!! UNITY PEACE FREEDOM.
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Hello Message hf

Oh dear, you seem to be so busy. Did you see my message to you about the Stones, in your other thread?

You are not alone - many are looking forward to being beamed up!!!! I'm sure First Contact won't be long; we here welcome it and are more than ready to take our place as Galactic Citizens.

Take care and speak to you soon.

Love Div
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March 6, 2008: Imagine living on a planet where Northern Lights fill the heavens at all hours of the day. Around the clock, even in broad daylight, luminous curtains shimmer and ripple across the sky, mesmerizing anyone who bothers to look.

News flash: Astronomers have discovered such a planet. Its name is Earth.

"Our own planet has auroras 24 hours a day," says Jim Spann of the Marshall Space Flight Center, "and we can see them even in broad daylight." The trick, he explains, is picking the right wavelength. "If we look at Earth from space using an ultraviolet (UV) filter, we see there are auroras underway at all times. It is a beautiful sight."
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Thanks, Dances hf Isn't this wonderful????? And I believe it enforces the EU theory too.

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a blissful 'dreamlike' awareness, which is really just having a very quiet mind.
hf Leela

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This is what I strive for... soon now, I can feel it.

To seperate from all the noise is to become what is real and hidden and beautiful.

The expanding awareness of that comes like breathing, in and out, in and out.

What is special is how this can be seen in the posts on this very special thread, each one of you honest, authentic, human and divine.

Balance is pretty thick around here also.

And love. Let's not forget that:)

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hf

Hello Divvie! hf

Yes, are we awake or still dreaming, or not? ........Ha ha ha!
lol
Femto! Yes, 'Stairway to Heaven.'
I always thought that the lyrics told a certain truth about the limits of materialism, and when I was in New Age publishing, we published the lyrics, only to receive an irate reply from a woman who claimed that the song contained 'satanic' backmash -- reverse speech.

I'm not sure where I stand on the reverse speech phenomena, frankly, and I never did play the song backwards. In the end, we see what we want to see.....

hf  ) Leela hf

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Yes ghostsister, blissful 'dreamlike' awareness.

In one now. You guys make it easy.

Love it . Happy .happy.happy.happy.

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a blissful 'dreamlike' awareness...
This is what I strive for... soon now, I can feel it.
To seperate from all the noise is to become what is real and hidden and beautiful.
The expanding awareness of that comes like breathing, in and out, in and out.
What is special is how this can be seen in the posts on this very special thread, each one of you honest, authentic, human and divine.
Balance is pretty thick around here also.
And love. Let's not forget that:)
hf
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hf Hello Ghostsister!

Thank you............. nice!!! hf

hf L O V E ! hf
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Hi Dancing, I got the giggles. Is this your part of Oz?

Earth (Telluric) Currents: was Electric Australia

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Ghostsister...what Divine comments - thank you! The thread is only as good as those who contribute and you are one of those who spread love, light and understanding wherever you go... hf

Hello Divvie! hf

Yes, are we awake or still dreaming, or not? ......Ha ha ha!
lol
hf  ) Leela hf

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With so many Goddesses (women) and so many Gods (men) in touch with their feminine sides, how could the Sacred Feminine fail, hmmm? Smile!

Dreaming/waking? Hmmmm....I don't know. I used to think when we were awake we were really asleep and when we were asleep we were really awake. I don't think so now. In my dreams, I don't really remember consciously creating them although on some level, I must be. THIS feels more real, somehow.

Interesting what Gregg Braden says about this..I'll see if I can dig it out. It relates to the awakening of our full DNA capability, brain power and potential to be in many altered states simultaneously (i.e. full multi-dimensionality).

At this moment, reality is wherever your focus is at the time. Now then, if your focus is on 'yesterday', then that will become your reality at that moment. I feel this is why staying in the Now moment is good practice for us because when we do achieve heightened awareness, we will have to discipline ourselves, as Casteneda was so good at teaching us.

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"PHI is the direct result and first Ratio produced by this arrangement as it Cycles." Junglelord, www.thunderbolts.info
Here comes the Golden Age.

"Thought being a given is the first assertion of self-awareness; the remaining truth is simply "I am, therefore there is". Self and other, subject and object." Eyeam

"Remember me as I AM." My Brother
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(The thread's at No. 4)
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"Aether is a Quantum 2 Spin Rotating Magnetic Field that encapsulates Primary Angular Momentum and via Tensegrity forms Matter with resulting Quantum 1/2 spin.

"PHI is the direct result and first Ratio produced by this arrangement as it Cycles." Junglelord, www.thunderbolts.info
Here comes the Golden Age.

"Thought being a given is the first assertion of self-awareness; the remaining truth is simply "I am, therefore there is". Self and other, subject and object." Eyeam

"Remember me as I AM." My Brother
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Lightworkers, do you remember femto telling us that we can change the past, and some of us weren't really sure about being able to do that? And that if we changed the PAST, we would change the FUTURE?!


Here's Gregg Braden confirming just this principle:

"We, in fact, can change the future particles within the divine matrix by going into a now state to change the past before it happens. There now have I totally blown your mind?

We change the past by actually forgiving all tress pass and possible atrocities experienced then as against us IN THE NOW and it is our DNA that vibrates that simultaneously into all aspects of us in all time lines and all locations. This actually changes the past as if it is happening differently NOW.

The way Science describes the phenomena of The Unified Field of energy is that it is present since their BIG BANG (version) and it therefore is the origin of all creation continually - in the now.

The second half of this equation is THE UNIFIED FIELD that I call The Divine Matrix, SPEAKS BACK TO US ALSO... it actually communicates with us.

It mirrors us to let us know where we are at... and may we have eyes to see... and ears to hear what the Divine Matrix ~ that we are all of and within ~ is telling us NOW".

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So, there you go. Lightworkers.....now we know, what are we going to do with it?

THIS IS Multi-dimensionality. THIS IS the Future. THIS IS cutting-edge. Do you agree?

Love Div
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"Aether is a Quantum 2 Spin Rotating Magnetic Field that encapsulates Primary Angular Momentum and via Tensegrity forms Matter with resulting Quantum 1/2 spin.

"PHI is the direct result and first Ratio produced by this arrangement as it Cycles." Junglelord, www.thunderbolts.info
Here comes the Golden Age.

"Thought being a given is the first assertion of self-awareness; the remaining truth is simply "I am, therefore there is". Self and other, subject and object." Eyeam

"Remember me as I AM." My Brother
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Experiencing ‘Zero Point’ is like riding a High-Rise Elevator, with ALL its buttons reading ‘0 POINT’.
It is not important which button we push.
‘Zero Point’ will be experienced.
On every level.

It is a starting point to reverse direction.

There are many times I got out of elevator at ‘Zero Point’ level, only to find a note pointing me to another floor.
Many traveled in that elevator with me.
Same way-- confused.
Same way-- determined.

There was one floor where I got a note: “Drop DETERMINED!”.

--I did.

And then the next note, saying: “Drop CONFUSED!”.

--I did.

It was only confusing at first.
Everything got easier after that second message.

Every one ‘Zero Point’ feels like “this is IT!”
only to discover that there been another button pushed.
New experience.
New ‘Zero Point’.

Now, I still ride that elevator.
These days I carry another note left for me a few levels ago:

“THERE WILL BE A TOP FLOOR, You know,
…(signed... God)”.

Life is great.

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Oh dear, more connection problems, sorry everyone!

Leela, I'm laughing with all this dreaming/waking debate; keep going! hf
Tone, thanks for the videos..they're great.hf
Wasayo, fantastic Astro - thanks!!hf
Allie, glad to see you! hf
Caruso, thanks for that..very useful to keep in mind with all conflict hf




Hi divinity left message.is there a message for us carved in stone,UNITY PEACE FREEDOM,its been nothing but flashes and splits sinse the mid 1980 for me,its like i have been a guide service for all walks of all nations,only to realize it in a second,now i got to pack this conue across two more rivers,ATT SCOTTIE PLEASE BEAM ME UP!!!!! UNITY PEACE FREEDOM.


Hello Message hf

Oh dear, you seem to be so busy. Did you see my message to you about the Stones, in your other thread?

You are not alone - many are looking forward to being beamed up!!!! I'm sure First Contact won't be long; we here welcome it and are more than ready to take our place as Galactic Citizens.

Take care and speak to you soon.

Love Div
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Hi divinity,if you feel a little lite footed in the next few days,thats me picking you up,your great thanks,UNITY PEACE FREEDOM hf
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hf Divvie!
Sacred Feminine?! Yes! hf
Hmmm, yes, attitudes to dreaming are interesting, (though maybe not as much as the experience itself.)
I used to listen to a dream analyst on a radio talkback show, who always gave Jungian style readings for listeners' dreams.
Their dreams were like mine then -- disjointed scenes like out of a badly cut movie.
After some time, my dream experience began to feel like just being somewhere else, rather than a symbolic message.
Now if I dream, I feel awake on some level, and in fact, not sure whether I am dreaming or awake.
There is also often the presence of the Divine Love(r).
........smile!
hf Leela hf
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Lightworkers, do you remember femto telling us that we can change the past, and some of us weren't really sure about being able to do that? And that if we changed the PAST, we would change the FUTURE?!


Here's Gregg Braden confirming just this principle:

"We, in fact, can change the future particles within the divine matrix by going into a now state to change the past before it happens. There now have I totally blown your mind?

We change the past by actually forgiving all tress pass and possible atrocities experienced then as against us IN THE NOW and it is our DNA that vibrates that simultaneously into all aspects of us in all time lines and all locations. This actually changes the past as if it is happening differently NOW.

The way Science describes the phenomena of The Unified Field of energy is that it is present since their BIG BANG (version) and it therefore is the origin of all creation continually - in the now.

The second half of this equation is THE UNIFIED FIELD that I call The Divine Matrix, SPEAKS BACK TO US ALSO... it actually communicates with us.

It mirrors us to let us know where we are at... and may we have eyes to see... and ears to hear what the Divine Matrix ~ that we are all of and within ~ is telling us NOW".

-------------------------------------------------

So, there you go. Lightworkers.....now we know, what are we going to do with it?

THIS IS Multi-dimensionality. THIS IS the Future. THIS IS cutting-edge. Do you agree?

Love Div
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BRAVO, DIV.

And UNLESS we accept possibility of IT, even though IT is out of our frame of reference, we would not be able to experience IT at all.


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Hi divinity,if you feel a little lite footed in the next few days,thats me picking you up,your great thanks,UNITY PEACE FREEDOM hf
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red_heart flowas

Wow, nobody has ever said that to me! Thank you very much, dear message. I'm delighted, and laughing so much. Happy days for the rest of your life, ok!?

UNITY PEACE FREEDOM AND HAPPINESS,
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"Aether is a Quantum 2 Spin Rotating Magnetic Field that encapsulates Primary Angular Momentum and via Tensegrity forms Matter with resulting Quantum 1/2 spin.

"PHI is the direct result and first Ratio produced by this arrangement as it Cycles." Junglelord, www.thunderbolts.info
Here comes the Golden Age.

"Thought being a given is the first assertion of self-awareness; the remaining truth is simply "I am, therefore there is". Self and other, subject and object." Eyeam

"Remember me as I AM." My Brother





GLP