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Calling LIGHTWORKERS! A Meeting Place !

 
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If you are experiencing light and love, you are not yet aware


Sky, we know you are not happy
i am trying to help you
you can use your free will and refuse
makes no difference to me
i am still happy

Happy?
I never had to ask myself if I was happy or not

Where does that put you?


1. contemplating human stubbornness
2. contemplating the pain-pleasure cycle, how to transcend this state
3. contemplating wicca
4. contemplating a main cause of suffering, people who think they are right
5. contemplating failure
6. contemplating how to use the buzz word love
7. practising awareness, excersising the mind

Peace - Darza
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Try exorcising your mind
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Egocentrism
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In psychology, egocentrism is defined as a) the incomplete differentiation of the self and the world, including other people and b) the tendency to perceive, understand and interpret the world in terms of the self. The term derives from the Greek egô, meaning "I." An egocentric person has no theory of mind, cannot "put himself in other people's shoes," and believes everyone sees what he sees (or that what he sees in some way exceeds what others see.)
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Egocentrism
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In psychology, egocentrism is defined as a) the incomplete differentiation of the self and the world, including other people and b) the tendency to perceive, understand and interpret the world in terms of the self. The term derives from the Greek egô, meaning "I." An egocentric person has no theory of mind, cannot "put himself in other people's shoes," and believes everyone sees what he sees (or that what he sees in some way exceeds what others see.)

 Quoting: Darza


Darza,

Poor thing... are you stamping your feet again? You worry so much about other people.

hmmmmm....

Perhaps, this definition fits you perfectly!

You seem to know others so well; you must be getting that from somewhere.

lmao

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Cockroaches conceived in space onboard the Russian Foton-M bio satellite have developed faster and become hardier than 'terrestrial' ones, a research supervisor said on Thursday.

The research team has been monitoring the cockroaches since they were born in October. The scientists established that their limbs and bodies grew faster.

"What is more, we have found out that the creatures... run faster than ordinary cockroaches, and are much more energetic and resilient," Dmitry Atyakshin said.

Cockroaches, as well as other types of insects, can give birth several times after one impregnation, and the cockroaches that conceived during the bio-satellite's September 14-26 flight have since given birth to their second and third batches of offspring.

"The second and third batches did not show these peculiarities of growth and physiology," the scientist noted.

'Ordinary' cockroaches are already known for their extraordinary resilience. Some species can last almost an hour without oxygen or a month without food, and are able to withstand high doses of radiation.

The September 14-26 flight was part of an ongoing experiment into the effects of space flight by the Institute of Biomedical Problems (IBMP). The creatures were sealed in special containers, and a video camera filmed them during the flight.

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Empathy (from the Greek εμπάθεια, transliterated as empatheia, meaning "physical affection, partiality") is commonly defined as one's ability to recognize, perceive and feel directly the emotion of another. Since the states of mind, beliefs, and desires of others are intertwined with their emotions, one with empathy for another may often be able to more effectively define another's mode of thought and mood. Empathy is often characterized as the ability to "put oneself into another's shoes", or to in some way experience the outlook or emotions of another being within oneself, a sort of emotional resonance.

Empathy is also a concept recognized as "reading" another person, completely translating each movement into understandable conversation.

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Nonviolent communication
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Nonviolent Communication (NVC) is a process developed by Marshall Rosenberg and others which people use to communicate with greater compassion and clarity.[1] It focuses on two things: empathy — listening with deep compassion, and honest self-expression — exposing what matters to oneself in a way that's likely to inspire compassion in others. Formal NVC self-expression includes four elements: observations (distinguished from interpretations/evaluations), feelings (emotions separate from thoughts), needs (deep motives) and requests (clear, present, doable and without demand).

Those who use Nonviolent Communication (also called "Compassionate Communication") describe all actions as motivated by an attempt to get human needs met. However, in meeting those needs, they seek to avoid the use of fear, guilt, shame, blame, coercion or threats. The ideal of NVC is to get one's own needs met while also meeting others' needs. A key principle of Nonviolent Communication that supports this is the capacity to express oneself without use of good/bad, right/wrong judgment, hence the emphasis on expressing feelings and needs, instead of criticisms or judgments.

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Nonviolent communication
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Nonviolent Communication (NVC) is a process developed by Marshall Rosenberg and others which people use to communicate with greater compassion and clarity.[1] It focuses on two things: empathy — listening with deep compassion, and honest self-expression — exposing what matters to oneself in a way that's likely to inspire compassion in others. Formal NVC self-expression includes four elements: observations (distinguished from interpretations/evaluations), feelings (emotions separate from thoughts), needs (deep motives) and requests (clear, present, doable and without demand).

Those who use Nonviolent Communication (also called "Compassionate Communication") describe all actions as motivated by an attempt to get human needs met. However, in meeting those needs, they seek to avoid the use of fear, guilt, shame, blame, coercion or threats. The ideal of NVC is to get one's own needs met while also meeting others' needs. A key principle of Nonviolent Communication that supports this is the capacity to express oneself without use of good/bad, right/wrong judgment, hence the emphasis on expressing feelings and needs, instead of criticisms or judgments.

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...very uncomfortable advice here for many.
Extremely effective when used.


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You guys might enjoy this.

Meet Vivek:

Thread: Consciousness, Spirituality, and Truth.
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Nonviolent communication
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Nonviolent Communication (NVC) is a process developed by Marshall Rosenberg and others which people use to communicate with greater compassion and clarity.[1] It focuses on two things: empathy — listening with deep compassion, and honest self-expression — exposing what matters to oneself in a way that's likely to inspire compassion in others. Formal NVC self-expression includes four elements: observations (distinguished from interpretations/evaluations), feelings (emotions separate from thoughts), needs (deep motives) and requests (clear, present, doable and without demand).

Those who use Nonviolent Communication (also called "Compassionate Communication") describe all actions as motivated by an attempt to get human needs met. However, in meeting those needs, they seek to avoid the use of fear, guilt, shame, blame, coercion or threats. The ideal of NVC is to get one's own needs met while also meeting others' needs. A key principle of Nonviolent Communication that supports this is the capacity to express oneself without use of good/bad, right/wrong judgment, hence the emphasis on expressing feelings and needs, instead of criticisms or judgments.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

...very uncomfortable advice here for many.
Extremely effective when used.

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77394

bump

I'd like to practice this as I try to release my ego. My interaction with others who upset me is often full of criticism and judgments to acquire what I desire or think is "right". Compassionate Communication :). Hmm...

Thank you again, Wasayo, for your plethora of gifts. Today is the first day Chuck and I haven't spoken - and we made our "end" official last night. I checked the day-by-day readings you gave me (for the last several days, today and tomorrow) and had to smile :). They were so on the ball. It's nice to feel a gentle hand of energy with me/in my heart/as me :D!

And my Mom and I had an awesome laugh yesterday about the child report. It's acting as an excellent tool for her too :D! Beautiful!

This is an exciting path...

And yes, this does (above info) make me personally uncomfortable because I have to admit that, while I'd like to say I practice it all the time, you even know personally I don't. So, I AM... a work in progress... and enjoying it... the journey :).

hf

Div - I can't pm anymore for right now. I'll pick up another month's membership either if I desire to or if Wasayo would like me to do so. Thank you for your words of kindness and advice ;). Met someone nice - perfect timing in this transition to accepting being single and loving me as I am, for me, through my own eyes :D. So powerful what a true smile from another can inspire :D!!!

Also, I deleted SimpleLight.net and it's MySpace. Not ready for all that it requires of me as I am now. Existing there :D.

Still have the Oneness MySpace hf

LOVE ALL, ONE,

O,

~ Allie
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You guys might enjoy this.

Meet Vivek:

Thread: Consciousness, Spirituality, and Truth.
 Quoting: Phoenix 2012


we understand vivek very well.

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My question in general to the general (not anyone in particular)....

Why in the hell or who in the hell ever told you (not anyone in particular) that you (not anyone in particular) had to release your ego? Please grow up and stand on your own. If you don't like yourself, do something about it. Stop placing the blame on the ego that just means the "definition of your very own character."

If this has been harsh, so be it.

I'm so over people telling me that I "should escape myself." If I want to, I will and if I want to let go parts of me, I will --- but, I WILL NOT let go of a part of me that I have now finally come to know and love.

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I like my Ego
At this moment we are enjoying live.
Good times bad times.
And we become one.

Oannes
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I'd like to practice this as I try to release my ego. My interaction with others who upset me is often full of criticism and judgments to acquire what I desire or think is "right". Compassionate Communication :). Hmm...
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Allie,

Being honest to oneself is very difficult, so my compliments to you.

I still remember your sharing about the children. Thanks.


Peace - Darza
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Hallo Darza,

See a part of the video.
Funny man.
Recognizable.

Oannes
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You guys might enjoy this.

Meet Vivek:

Thread: Consciousness, Spirituality, and Truth.
 Quoting: Phoenix 2012


Hey Phoenix! Where ya been?

red_heart smile
We the people of the Planet Earth, in order to form a more perfect union,
establish love, insure global harmony, provide for the divine knowledge,
promote the I AM connectivity, and secure the blessings of manifestations
to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish
this Constitution for the Planet Earth.

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The Definition of Our Future:


Responsible freedom of self determination, becoming truly self-confident and free, to
unconditionally be responsible for oneself, without being coerced to accept some higher
authority.

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Denn der Mensch ist der Acker und sein Herz sein Baum, sein Werk seine Frucht. -- Paracelsus
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My question in general to the general (not anyone in particular)....

Why in the hell or who in the hell ever told you (not anyone in particular) that you (not anyone in particular) had to release your ego? Please grow up and stand on your own. If you don't like yourself, do something about it. Stop placing the blame on the ego that just means the "definition of your very own character."

If this has been harsh, so be it.

I'm so over people telling me that I "should escape myself." If I want to, I will and if I want to let go parts of me, I will --- but, I WILL NOT let go of a part of me that I have now finally come to know and love.

Sunpar
 Quoting: Sunpar

Sunpar ~

Just my response ;). It wasn't harsh. Beautiful opinion!

I guess it depends on how you look at ego. For me, ego is the part of myself that acts out of my eyes alone for me. It is a singular consciousness, which works to function in, through and for itself.

From ego I act out of anger when I am upset, manipulation when I want to get something, depression when something terribly hurts me, exaggerated pride for efforts, etc. Outside of ego/"releasing ego"/disassociated from it in itself, however you want to phrase it, I look at a problem when I am upset and can see clearly the best solution, I give respect to the desires of others and come to peaceful compromises, feel blessed for every event, recognize I attract everything to me and do an action not for how I will be perceived by others for it, but for the effect that actions has. And, the deeper I go from releasing this ego (though how I can I release something when I merge deeper into the recognition that I am everything) the stronger I Awaken in Oneness. It's not a death or a hate of self, for me. It is a complete Love of self in the recognition that I am equally I AM as you are.

You may Love you. You need not be perfect in my eyes. You're beautiful as you are ;). I love me too and I love you. Hahaha, but I too am working to love all parts of myself and all parts of you too :D! The Universal "You" and "I".

I AM.
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Allie,

Being honest to oneself is very difficult, so my compliments to you.

I still remember your sharing about the children. Thanks.

Peace - Darza
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Darza ~

I took being hurt by several people here as an excuse to hurt in return. I was not the change in the world I wish to see.

Again, that was a beautiful post you shared. Magnificent move, in my opinion, Friend.

Wasayo~Astrolabe, you started something amazing in my life... :D! I'm still in awe... so many of my stereotypes being shattered... still!! People just continue to approach me. People of certain "Groups" like Jocks, Sorority groups, Bums, Emos, etc. behaving outside of their "Groups" "norms"... It's amazing. Thank you, Honest Inspiration!

Darza, you're just pushing it along with youness and Caruso ("."), you've brought it home in the inner with a clear mirror.

hf

Amazed with the children. Heck, I'm being amazed with all generations right now!
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Allie,

I am speechless,

And you are 19/20 !!??
I am very happy for you, me and humanity

The pure children i met so far are really young, like 5
They can communicate with me without using words, they can show me respect and acceptence on a level i did not experience with adults yet. They just use what is available, sheer geniusses. They teach me also.
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Empathy (from the Greek εμπάθεια, transliterated as empatheia, meaning "physical affection, partiality") is commonly defined as one's ability to recognize, perceive and feel directly the emotion of another. Since the states of mind, beliefs, and desires of others are intertwined with their emotions, one with empathy for another may often be able to more effectively define another's mode of thought and mood. Empathy is often characterized as the ability to "put oneself into another's shoes", or to in some way experience the outlook or emotions of another being within oneself, a sort of emotional resonance.

Empathy is also a concept recognized as "reading" another person, completely translating each movement into understandable conversation.

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 Quoting: Darza

Did "this little light -o- mine" shine on you, Darza?



thank you christ, god, jesus for showing me the way..
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Please grow up and stand on your own. If you don't like yourself, do something about it. Stop placing the blame on the ego that just means the "definition of your very own character."

Sunpar
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Sunpar, you tell these lightweenies!
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Sunpar -- I actually did not look at that video clip from Nine inch Nails, untill just then, I can not watch something like that, I got to the monkey on the cross and that was more than enough for me. The other day I skipped over it. Are you saying you wrote this -after watching that?????


Faster by Sunpar

Yes, I allowed the rape, I allowed the curse
Yes, I allowed you to see into me, I allowed you to set hurdles for me
I’ll assist you now, it’s all core from here.
Erasing the perceived me; erasing the perceived you.
Allow me to get into you.
Allow me to rotate you
Allow me to twist you
Allow me to coil you
Allow me to wrap you around me
You have given the ravaged me reason to live.

Releasing me from labels, the bondage of god
You can have it all
Surrendering the erased self is orgasmic
The confidence I have is in this moment
This here and now; this you and me; this all
No more will I run from what I thought was fear
But instead I embrace the erasing of perceived self as a reason to live
I detect a tearing apart;
A bleeding of sight
Yet a blending of you and me; this all

I allow this self to scream
I allow this self to writhe
I allow this self all sense of pleasure
I allow this self; this self that is all around me
To pleasure my very desires.

I’ve left the perceived I of the past
And have moved ever onward into the
Perceived and ever-present I
You, me and all those around us.
Take upon yourself this bitterness
And pass it through me through the
Great core orgasmic pleasure.
Death provides such sweet ecstasy
When in death you are allowed
To live at your ultimate speed

Faster. . .
Faster. .
Faster.

I live once again.
.

© Sunpar 1-30-2008


dwm nli 365208 (Dancing With Moonbeams),

Yes, I wrote this after the video and then after watching it again reading the lyrics along with it. Sometimes inner responses come from the most unexpected places. This video/song hit me in a very intimate way and the words are my response back to the lyrics of the song.

Sunpar--I AM in awe of your writing-Sunpar=priceless

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:femto: :femto: :femto: :femto:
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I like my Ego
At this moment we are enjoying live.
Good times bad times.
And we become one.

Oannes
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hey Oannes,

I like my ego too, but it is fucking me
Sky
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Sky, do not worry about me,
Darza does not exist.
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And, the deeper I go from releasing this ego (though how I can I release something when I merge deeper into the recognition that I am everything) the stronger I Awaken in Oneness. It's not a death or a hate of self, for me. It is a complete Love of self in the recognition that I am equally I AM as you are.
 Quoting: ~ Allie LIIS 357246


hey Allie,

you have something interesting here..

"And, the deeper I go from releasing this ego (though how I can I release something when I merge deeper into the recognition that I am everything) the stronger I Awaken in Oneness."

read this..

"It's not a death or a hate of self, for me. It is a complete Love of self in the recognition that I am equally I AM as you are."

can you rephrase this without using the words death and hate?
Sky
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Sky, do not worry about me,
Darza does not exist.
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apparently not
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You only exist in the breath
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You only exist in the breath
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Sky441,

There is really so much truth in that one statement.

Really, and just how unconditional is the air that we breathe?

The air that we breathe is the breath that has been everywhere and in everyone/everything.

No one can say, "I won't breathe because I know where it's been."

Elements do not discriminate.

Nice.

Thank you.

Sunpar
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Dances With Moonbeams,

Thank you for your comment on "Faster."

*SMILE*

Sunpar
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Good 'Now' Lightworkers!

So, the difficult subject of the ego. I was born with a huge ego, in an egoic family. For the last ten years, I've had to rugby tackle it and sit on it, for the following reasons:

* When the ego stops driving, the Spirit starts

* My ego makes me miserable because it's a spoilt child. There is never enough of anything to keep it happy. So, when the spoilt child gets petulant, the Spirit I/WE, reassure it and tell it there's absolutely nothing to worry about, even if we die of everything, we will manage and be fine.

* My ego - when it's running full blast - is destructive because it just wants all the time...to win, to flourish, to feel safe, to possess!

So, over the years, my beloved ego has kept me alive, kept me tenacious enough to go on living even in the hardest times, BUT it's not enough to make me happy.

Only Love/Spirit/Connection/giving fills me with joy. Keeping my ego happy doesn't because it's always short-lived and not very fulfilling; a bit like casual sex or a MacDonalds.

How are you all doing today?

I've missed you (but then that's just the ego talking, LOL!),

Divvy
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"PHI is the direct result and first Ratio produced by this arrangement as it Cycles." Junglelord, www.thunderbolts.info
Here comes the Golden Age.

"Thought being a given is the first assertion of self-awareness; the remaining truth is simply "I am, therefore there is". Self and other, subject and object." Eyeam

"Remember me as I AM." My Brother
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I think he was freed up a while ago. If not, let me know, but he looks good to go.
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A big thanks to SHR and all the Mods for looking after us!

Kisses and Chocolate Buttons!

Div
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"Aether is a Quantum 2 Spin Rotating Magnetic Field that encapsulates Primary Angular Momentum and via Tensegrity forms Matter with resulting Quantum 1/2 spin.

"PHI is the direct result and first Ratio produced by this arrangement as it Cycles." Junglelord, www.thunderbolts.info
Here comes the Golden Age.

"Thought being a given is the first assertion of self-awareness; the remaining truth is simply "I am, therefore there is". Self and other, subject and object." Eyeam

"Remember me as I AM." My Brother





GLP