Something Just Went BEZERK in the Gulf of Mexico. The US Navy just sunk a French Submarine

Arctic Sunrise transponder has been off for a week or so, otherwise Marine Traffic would have updates on them, which they don't. Arctic Sunrise has been making a beeline for St Pete for the last several days. They are not hiding anything, just lazy in reporting their position to the home office.


By law, they must turn off their transponder when not in service, not in motion or at anchor/dock. (I just thought they were in port, doing a re-provisioning) They have to have it on, otherwise...by law. Tugboat Capt, my brother, emphasized this repeatedly to me two days ago on the phone. I have another call into him right now. With all the security concerns in GoM right now, do you think Arctic Sunrise could actually get away with this tooling around sans transponder? This is getting curiouser and curiouser, RS! Your thoughts?

If the transponder is on, it is receiving/transmitting based upon it being interrogated by an incoming signal. If it is turned off, it cannot transmit the ships position. The submarine I was on also had a transponder, it is called IFF, Identify Friend or Foe. It was always on to interrogate other ships, and to receive back their response. It was used for a different purpose, but that is how transponders work.


ummm, RS, being an old salt myself, I really appreciate your marine knowledge in general and your submarine knowledge in particular...so thanks for that. It's the legal/security aspects that have me puzzled - see bold above.
Another thing that occurred to me:
Documented vessels are often commandeered by the military in times of war. I don't think (supposition on my part) the military is subject to this particular law. How ironic would it be if the navy enlisted a Greenpeace vessel in GoM?
Talk about hidden in plain sight!

Arctic Sunrise transponder has been off for a week or so, otherwise Marine Traffic would have updates on them, which they don't. Arctic Sunrise has been making a beeline for St Pete for the last several days. They are not hiding anything, just lazy in reporting their position to the home office.


By law, they must turn off their transponder when not in service, not in motion or at anchor/dock. (I just thought they were in port, doing a re-provisioning) They have to have it on, otherwise...by law. Tugboat Capt, my brother, emphasized this repeatedly to me two days ago on the phone. I have another call into him right now. With all the security concerns in GoM right now, do you think Arctic Sunrise could actually get away with this tooling around sans transponder? This is getting curiouser and curiouser, RS! Your thoughts?

If the transponder is on, it is receiving/transmitting based upon it being interrogated by an incoming signal. If it is turned off, it cannot transmit the ships position. The submarine I was on also had a transponder, it is called IFF, Identify Friend or Foe. It was always on to interrogate other ships, and to receive back their response. It was used for a different purpose, but that is how transponders work.


ummm, RS, being an old salt myself, I really appreciate your marine knowledge in general and your submarine knowledge in particular...so thanks for that. It's the legal/security aspects that have me puzzled - see bold above.
Another thing that occurred to me:
Documented vessels are often commandeered by the military in times of war. I don't think (supposition on my part) the military is subject to this particular law. How ironic would it be if the navy enlisted a Greenpeace vessel in GoM?
Talk about hidden in plain sight!

The article didn't single out the algae, but the combination of the algae with cyanobacteria. At least that was my understanding.


Certain algae such as aphanizomenon flos-aquae (the 'super blue-green algae harvested from Lake Klamath) are classified as cyanobacteria

Hi all

Some of you talk about OP posts as facts, facts that we know. I find this not to be true.

The facts that have been posted and verifyable have been posted by others not the OP. OP continues to be vauge. I can only assume one of two things. He know the truth and is leading us all to it or its just BS.

If he knows the truth why not just come out and say it. I will say again I do appreciate all the hard work done by those posting, but we should not confuse OP posts with FACTS. Because they are not. The possibilities are endless, speculation. So if we keep to just the facts. What do we know. We know that there is an OP posting information of which none has been verified.

I would love to find out whats really up in the gulf. I do not think that the disaster was to cover a BP leak but that there is a massive disruption of the sea floor and other place in world. Why they are trying to hide this fact is speculative at best. I put my money on that they know that large changes in the earth are in progress.

Unless OP gives us facts that can be verified some how, all we are doing is speculating on what coulf possibly be happening. So far he is not inclined to do so. Why.

- snip post-

You really need to explain how you believe that the US made "it more dangerous than it naturally is." If I can grasp anything to work with, I'll approach authorities and request answers. I can usually get a response, although I do not always get answers.

krispy:

what happened with the new french publication the op mentioned

have you been checking up?

would it be too much to ask you to post the link again

Arctic Sunrise transponder has been off for a week or so, otherwise Marine Traffic would have updates on them, which they don't. Arctic Sunrise has been making a beeline for St Pete for the last several days. They are not hiding anything, just lazy in reporting their position to the home office.


By law, they must turn off their transponder when not in service, not in motion or at anchor/dock. (I just thought they were in port, doing a re-provisioning) They have to have it on, otherwise...by law. Tugboat Capt, my brother, emphasized this repeatedly to me two days ago on the phone. I have another call into him right now. With all the security concerns in GoM right now, do you think Arctic Sunrise could actually get away with this tooling around sans transponder? This is getting curiouser and curiouser, RS! Your thoughts?

If the transponder is on, it is receiving/transmitting based upon it being interrogated by an incoming signal. If it is turned off, it cannot transmit the ships position. The submarine I was on also had a transponder, it is called IFF, Identify Friend or Foe. It was always on to interrogate other ships, and to receive back their response. It was used for a different purpose, but that is how transponders work.


ummm, RS, being an old salt myself, I really appreciate your marine knowledge in general and your submarine knowledge in particular...so thanks for that. It's the legal/security aspects that have me puzzled - see bold above.
Another thing that occurred to me:
Documented vessels are often commandeered by the military in times of war. I don't think (supposition on my part) the military is subject to this particular law. How ironic would it be if the navy enlisted a Greenpeace vessel in GoM?
Talk about hidden in plain sight!

Legal issue..lol.. Check Marine Traffic right now for A Whale and B Elephant positions. Unless they have both turned on their transponders in the last half hour, you won't find either of them on marine Traffic, because both have their transponders off... yet they are both currently underway on the high seas. I am just reporting what I have been observing.

krispy:

what happened with the new french publication the op mentioned

have you been checking up?

would it be too much to ask you to post the link again

Hoping Housedad enjoys his vacation! (HEY! Make sure you go to Busch Gardens and ride Apollo's Chariot :)

...and on his recommendation:
GOOGLE:
organisms in crude oil morgellons
intelligent microorganisms
Microbial intelligence

Found some tidbits:

[link to www.morgellons-uk.net]
Current Morgellons research at a laboratory in Massachusetts shows that individuals affected by Morgellons disease have been in contact with soil and/or water containing cyanobacteria (blue-green algae), algae, aquatic fungi, water molds and lichen (algae and fungi). This assemblage of organisms, and associated bacterial populations, is common in soil and aquatic environments where cryptobiotic soils are present and/or in environments where nutrient rich conditions promote the development of algae blooms.
Dermal contact with a water source and/or inhalation of aerial dust containing cyanobacteria and algae may lead to the progressive colonization of organisms that are capable of feeding on or consuming these photosynthetic producers, thus contributing to the wide range of symptoms reported by Morgellons sufferers. Incidental growth of these opportunistic populations, such as actinomyces, aquatic fungi and true fungi, are known to promote disease in humans, as they consist of species capable of degrading either cellulose or keratin (skin/hair). Evidence for the presence of opportunistic micro- organisms in samples is indicated by the occurrence of capsule-like Morgellons particles that have been identified as parasitized pine pollen grains. Chytrid populations are obligate parasites of frogs, nematodes, algae, cyanobacteria, plants, and pine pollen (see photo below).
These findings serve as a focus for further understanding the ecological significance of the organisms identified in this study and the role they may play as causative agents of Morgellons disease.

Good evening, to confirm the wider DED spectrum is for the Falklands. We could only see their signatures but not the DED chatter. Now we can for both the gulf Of Mexico and the FalkLand's. I Want to clear some things(two) up to you and to the "others".

first. There was some confusion about call signs and signatures which I hear I was responsible for. Vessels call signs are not the same as the vessels signature on DED. I Apologize I mixed them up sometimes. Call signs change all the time depending on mission and designation, signature(name)never changes. (like with your US aircraft the call sign becomes Air Force One when POTUS is onboard)

second. The DED transcripts or chatter is also in code. I have to first translate the DED chatter using the French Key, then I have to translate the French text to English. Each countries senior Embassies have their own country specific code to translate DED codes to text

From the FLK DED Traffic Chatter three British vessels (Two surface vessels and one Submarine) have been designated the call signs DEADLY EMBRACE 3, DEADLY EMBRACE 2 and the submarine is DEADLY EMBRACE 1
I Will Now begin posting DED chatter as is, I've not had enough time to analyze it properly. There are some new terminology which I cant translate yet.

Good evening, to confirm the wider DED spectrum is for the Falklands. We could only see their signatures but not the DED chatter. Now we can for both the gulf Of Mexico and the FalkLand's. I Want to clear some things(two) up to you and to the "others".

first. There was some confusion about call signs and signatures which I hear I was responsible for. Vessels call signs are not the same as the vessels signature on DED. I Apologize I mixed them up sometimes. Call signs change all the time depending on mission and designation, signature(name)never changes. (like with your US aircraft the call sign becomes Air Force One when POTUS is onboard)

second. The DED transcripts or chatter is also in code. I have to first translate the DED chatter using the French Key, then I have to translate the French text to English. Each countries senior Embassies have their own country specific code to translate DED codes to text

From the FLK DED Traffic Chatter three British vessels (Two surface vessels and one Submarine) have been designated the call signs DEADLY EMBRACE 3, DEADLY EMBRACE 2 and the submarine is DEADLY EMBRACE 1
I Will Now begin posting DED chatter as is, I've not had enough time to analyze it properly. There are some new terminology which I cant translate yet.

krispy:

what happened with the new french publication the op mentioned

have you been checking up?

would it be too much to ask you to post the link again

its nexus its out in numarus cunterys mine now has pride of plase in the bathroom next to the toilet paper and its not for reading now i no how they get there storys al never buy it again omg wot a fars

Good evening, to confirm the wider DED spectrum is for the Falklands. We could only see their signatures but not the DED chatter. Now we can for both the gulf Of Mexico and the FalkLand's. I Want to clear some things(two) up to you and to the "others".

first. There was some confusion about call signs and signatures which I hear I was responsible for. Vessels call signs are not the same as the vessels signature on DED. I Apologize I mixed them up sometimes. Call signs change all the time depending on mission and designation, signature(name)never changes. (like with your US aircraft the call sign becomes Air Force One when POTUS is onboard)

second. The DED transcripts or chatter is also in code. I have to first translate the DED chatter using the French Key, then I have to translate the French text to English. Each countries senior Embassies have their own country specific code to translate DED codes to text

From the FLK DED Traffic Chatter three British vessels (Two surface vessels and one Submarine) have been designated the call signs DEADLY EMBRACE 3, DEADLY EMBRACE 2 and the submarine is DEADLY EMBRACE 1
I Will Now begin posting DED chatter as is, I've not had enough time to analyze it properly. There are some new terminology which I cant translate yet.

krispy:

what happened with the new french publication the op mentioned

have you been checking up?

would it be too much to ask you to post the link again

its nexus its out in numarus cunterys mine now has pride of plase in the bathroom next to the toilet paper and its not for reading now i no how they get there storys al never buy it again omg wot a fars

- snip post-

You really need to explain how you believe that the US made "it more dangerous than it naturally is." If I can grasp anything to work with, I'll approach authorities and request answers. I can usually get a response, although I do not always get answers.


Through the use of corexit? Nano-tech in it morphs the organism? Does this nano-tech alter the magnetic/radioactive frequency?

My understanding is that the Russians have experience with it due to work in the arctic/antarctic...not necessarily the lake, although, they could have run into it there also.

have a word with yourself Krispy, you've been passing off other people's research as your own, i put something on here and two pages later without giving due credit you put it up as your own work.

ej is a nobhead, like the Dutchman a couple of weeks ago was a nobhead, i notice folk sticking up for ej when nexus editor slags him off, forgetting that ej has slagged off nexus editor and accused him of being the OP and starting this thread to increase sales of Nexus magazine.
Quoting ejut 1080456


see you all later on, assuming i've not been banned.

Arctic Sunrise transponder has been off for a week or so, otherwise Marine Traffic would have updates on them, which they don't. Arctic Sunrise has been making a beeline for St Pete for the last several days. They are not hiding anything, just lazy in reporting their position to the home office.


By law, they must turn off their transponder when not in service, not in motion or at anchor/dock. (I just thought they were in port, doing a re-provisioning) They have to have it on, otherwise...by law. Tugboat Capt, my brother, emphasized this repeatedly to me two days ago on the phone. I have another call into him right now. With all the security concerns in GoM right now, do you think Arctic Sunrise could actually get away with this tooling around sans transponder? This is getting curiouser and curiouser, RS! Your thoughts?

If the transponder is on, it is receiving/transmitting based upon it being interrogated by an incoming signal. If it is turned off, it cannot transmit the ships position. The submarine I was on also had a transponder, it is called IFF, Identify Friend or Foe. It was always on to interrogate other ships, and to receive back their response. It was used for a different purpose, but that is how transponders work.


ummm, RS, being an old salt myself, I really appreciate your marine knowledge in general and your submarine knowledge in particular...so thanks for that. It's the legal/security aspects that have me puzzled - see bold above.
Another thing that occurred to me:
Documented vessels are often commandeered by the military in times of war. I don't think (supposition on my part) the military is subject to this particular law. How ironic would it be if the navy enlisted a Greenpeace vessel in GoM?
Talk about hidden in plain sight!

Legal issue..lol.. Check Marine Traffic right now for A Whale and B Elephant positions. Unless they have both turned on their transponders in the last half hour, you won't find either of them on marine Traffic, because both have their transponders off... yet they are both currently underway on the high seas. I am just reporting what I have been observing.

acknowledged and appreciated. just don't understand quite how you are able to track these vessels' movements when the transponders are not on - nevermind

Hoping Housedad enjoys his vacation! (HEY! Make sure you go to Busch Gardens and ride Apollo's Chariot :)

...and on his recommendation:
GOOGLE:
organisms in crude oil morgellons
intelligent microorganisms
Microbial intelligence

Found some tidbits:

[link to www.morgellons-uk.net]
Current Morgellons research at a laboratory in Massachusetts shows that individuals affected by Morgellons disease have been in contact with soil and/or water containing cyanobacteria (blue-green algae), algae, aquatic fungi, water molds and lichen (algae and fungi). This assemblage of organisms, and associated bacterial populations, is common in soil and aquatic environments where cryptobiotic soils are present and/or in environments where nutrient rich conditions promote the development of algae blooms.
Dermal contact with a water source and/or inhalation of aerial dust containing cyanobacteria and algae may lead to the progressive colonization of organisms that are capable of feeding on or consuming these photosynthetic producers, thus contributing to the wide range of symptoms reported by Morgellons sufferers. Incidental growth of these opportunistic populations, such as actinomyces, aquatic fungi and true fungi, are known to promote disease in humans, as they consist of species capable of degrading either cellulose or keratin (skin/hair). Evidence for the presence of opportunistic micro- organisms in samples is indicated by the occurrence of capsule-like Morgellons particles that have been identified as parasitized pine pollen grains. Chytrid populations are obligate parasites of frogs, nematodes, algae, cyanobacteria, plants, and pine pollen (see photo below).
These findings serve as a focus for further understanding the ecological significance of the organisms identified in this study and the role they may play as causative agents of Morgellons disease.



GREAT FIND !

individuals affected by Morgellons disease have been in contact with soil and/or water containing cyanobacteria (blue-green algae), algae, aquatic fungi, water molds and lichen (algae and fungi). ...
Dermal contact with a water source and/or inhalation of aerial dust containing cyanobacteria
>>> the cargo was brought on board (I assume in a contained enviroment ... but there had to be seawater on the container. It seems unlikely to me that the cargo was placed in an open space and room where everyone (besides scientific crew) could touch it ... but maybe they were not carefull ... ,
and remember the HATCH was open, sailors were boarded :
Many possibilities for contact with contaminated (morgellon) seawater and airdroplets.

-OP 8:38 AM Good day. DED show interesting communication between Mistral and PP form 01:12
Pourquoi Pas relay to Mistral, failure on portable pcr device, show negative on aerosolised option
Mistral request dispersal method and rate
PP report dispersal method inconclusive, nano release still plausible and suspect nanoengineering because of metalic carbon compound morphing (translation problem)
Mistral relay to Em, keep safe perimeter from column
Em request confirmation on chinese asset movement
Mistral reply chinese asset movement strategic
GCP captain reported that he is maintaining cargo in perimeter zone
i dont know what the cargo is, girlfriend can guess that is also chemical but not sure,maybe proof, i think most of traffic about cargo is on vector channel now
(pag 125)


capable of degrading either cellulose or keratin (skin/hair).
>> melamine, melatonin and the immunsystem

-OP 6:11 AM 7/11/2010 PP confirms organism is attracted to darker pigmentation. Some GCP crew showing no effect at all during quarantine. they remain healthy. Melatonin meLamine (translation problem)


Just a thought ....
This leaves the question wether the morgellons disease amongst the sailors came from the seawater-(corexit & co/nanotech/oil-eating bacteria/algae)mixture which they came in contact with and air filled with waterdroplets came in allong with the boarded sailors and the cargo ...
or did it came from the exposure to the cargo as an organism ?
Was the cargo vaporising this particles which cauzed nano-morgellons amongst the crew more then 2 weeks after it came on board.
It seems to me that safety-protocols (parameter/proximity and ventilation/hermetic closure) prevent any new (experimental and misterious) cargo to be accesable to the whole crew and ship ....

Yes there are still possibilities that the AUrganism was the initiator of the morgellon-disease coz it was said (by OP) to be engeneered by the US with nanotechnology.
But the GOMwatervaporisation and GOMwatercontact is also a big legit candidate ....

:)

Hoping Housedad enjoys his vacation! (HEY! Make sure you go to Busch Gardens and ride Apollo's Chariot :)

...and on his recommendation:
GOOGLE:
organisms in crude oil morgellons
intelligent microorganisms
Microbial intelligence

Found some tidbits:

[link to www.morgellons-uk.net]
Current Morgellons research at a laboratory in Massachusetts shows that individuals affected by Morgellons disease have been in contact with soil and/or water containing cyanobacteria (blue-green algae), algae, aquatic fungi, water molds and lichen (algae and fungi). This assemblage of organisms, and associated bacterial populations, is common in soil and aquatic environments where cryptobiotic soils are present and/or in environments where nutrient rich conditions promote the development of algae blooms.
Dermal contact with a water source and/or inhalation of aerial dust containing cyanobacteria and algae may lead to the progressive colonization of organisms that are capable of feeding on or consuming these photosynthetic producers, thus contributing to the wide range of symptoms reported by Morgellons sufferers. Incidental growth of these opportunistic populations, such as actinomyces, aquatic fungi and true fungi, are known to promote disease in humans, as they consist of species capable of degrading either cellulose or keratin (skin/hair). Evidence for the presence of opportunistic micro- organisms in samples is indicated by the occurrence of capsule-like Morgellons particles that have been identified as parasitized pine pollen grains. Chytrid populations are obligate parasites of frogs, nematodes, algae, cyanobacteria, plants, and pine pollen (see photo below).
These findings serve as a focus for further understanding the ecological significance of the organisms identified in this study and the role they may play as causative agents of Morgellons disease.



GREAT FIND !

individuals affected by Morgellons disease have been in contact with soil and/or water containing cyanobacteria (blue-green algae), algae, aquatic fungi, water molds and lichen (algae and fungi). ...
Dermal contact with a water source and/or inhalation of aerial dust containing cyanobacteria
>>> the cargo was brought on board (I assume in a contained enviroment ... but there had to be seawater on the container. It seems unlikely to me that the cargo was placed in an open space and room where everyone (besides scientific crew) could touch it ... but maybe they were not carefull ... ,
and remember the HATCH was open, sailors were boarded :
Many possibilities for contact with contaminated (morgellon) seawater and airdroplets.

-OP 8:38 AM Good day. DED show interesting communication between Mistral and PP form 01:12
Pourquoi Pas relay to Mistral, failure on portable pcr device, show negative on aerosolised option
Mistral request dispersal method and rate
PP report dispersal method inconclusive, nano release still plausible and suspect nanoengineering because of metalic carbon compound morphing (translation problem)
Mistral relay to Em, keep safe perimeter from column
Em request confirmation on chinese asset movement
Mistral reply chinese asset movement strategic
GCP captain reported that he is maintaining cargo in perimeter zone
i dont know what the cargo is, girlfriend can guess that is also chemical but not sure,maybe proof, i think most of traffic about cargo is on vector channel now
(pag 125)


capable of degrading either cellulose or keratin (skin/hair).
>> melamine, melatonin and the immunsystem

-OP 6:11 AM 7/11/2010 PP confirms organism is attracted to darker pigmentation. Some GCP crew showing no effect at all during quarantine. they remain healthy. Melatonin meLamine (translation problem)


Just a thought ....
This leaves the question wether the morgellons disease amongst the sailors came from the seawater-(corexit & co/nanotech/oil-eating bacteria/algae)mixture which they came in contact with and air filled with waterdroplets came in allong with the boarded sailors and the cargo ...
or did it came from the exposure to the cargo as an organism ?
Was the cargo vaporising this particles which cauzed nano-morgellons amongst the crew more then 2 weeks after it came on board.
It seems to me that safety-protocols (parameter/proximity and ventilation/hermetic closure) prevent any new (experimental and misterious) cargo to be accesable to the whole crew and ship ....

Yes there are still possibilities that the AUrganism was the initiator of the morgellon-disease coz it was said (by OP) to be engeneered by the US with nanotechnology.
But the GOMwatervaporisation and GOMwatercontact is also a big legit candidate ....

:)

Good evening, to confirm the wider DED spectrum is for the Falklands. We could only see their signatures but not the DED chatter. Now we can for both the gulf Of Mexico and the FalkLand's. I Want to clear some things(two) up to you and to the "others".

first. There was some confusion about call signs and signatures which I hear I was responsible for. Vessels call signs are not the same as the vessels signature on DED. I Apologize I mixed them up sometimes. Call signs change all the time depending on mission and designation, signature(name)never changes. (like with your US aircraft the call sign becomes Air Force One when POTUS is onboard)

second. The DED transcripts or chatter is also in code. I have to first translate the DED chatter using the French Key, then I have to translate the French text to English. Each countries senior Embassies have their own country specific code to translate DED codes to text

From the FLK DED Traffic Chatter three British vessels (Two surface vessels and one Submarine) have been designated the call signs DEADLY EMBRACE 3, DEADLY EMBRACE 2 and the submarine is DEADLY EMBRACE 1
I Will Now begin posting DED chatter as is, I've not had enough time to analyze it properly. There are some new terminology which I cant translate yet.

Well OP post them in French as I am French and can translate them. And one more thing you must give us some kind of proof, only speculations and no hard proof. What I suggest is that you take a photo of the DED as is, off your g/f computer and post it for all to see. If you don't do this then we will know that this is a sham.

Good call Live For Yaweh.

I need more proof or this thread is wasting my time, but dammit I just cant leave it.

i don't have access to orange at the moment. ETA between 9:00 and 10:00 tomorrow only. (use telefon key for identification in 1977)