Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.

And what people talk about on the frontpage of reddit isn't exactly - ecsys type material. If reddit were to start talking about these sorts of things on the frontpage, it would be a significantly different world.

In any case, reddit is where it probably starts (or doesn't).

And if reddit won't talk about it, forget it, it's not going anywhere.

I still haven't made a symbol myself (consciously, though I guess I used a few objects as symbols in hindsight).
I don't know what's holding me back.

Neither did I, but I think I'd have to say it was fear of it not working and then being shattered. I mean Chaol has turned off lights in 1 part of our world and turned them on in another. In this new world we are like babies clinging to his breasts for the only nourishment we know of.

So it was the fear of if the Genius didn't work, what do I do now?

When your ready try it tuuuuur. It took me awhile to get comfortable enough to try (again) also.

I made my symbol about a year ago. I still have not experienced what I intended.

I did hear a little bird inside my mind say, "sweep the porch". I did not even think about what sense it made, I just did it. The car is parked in my driveway, and you can walk up the driveway and step onto my porch. That is as "related" as it gets, in my estimation.

However, I did put some intent into it. I wanted to insert a change that would give me a reality in which my car started.

Somewhere, Chaol has mentioned that everything has its own consciousness. While sweeping, I did make the rather nonsensical observation that the car saw me performing this hoo-doo for it's sake. :)

This is interesting, and a good example of how the Genius works.

In such a situation you simply seek out the path of least resistance. That is, try to sense what will take the least amount of energy. It does not mean what is the laziest thing to do or that which would use the least amount of physical energy. But that which you are most inclined to do.

Some call this intuition.

It may allow you to experience that your car is working if properly executed.

In this example the intention was to create a kind of symbol for the car working through the leaves. Then there was interaction with the leaves on the potential energy of the porch. So the leaves were "fixed" and therefore your car was fixed.

You can also do this in your mind. If, for example, something is broken or you want to perceive something then take what you see already around you and internalize it by representing it mentally with symbols. Once you have 'good' symbols for those things you can work with them as you see fit. It one symbol has problems moving or interacting it may mean that there is a problem with what it represents in physical reality.

(There is no limit to what can be done with this, as everything is a symbol, a value, in perspective.)

I do this all the time and it's how I can communicate with you, 'travel' in space and time, etc. It is actually what you're doing right now when you exist (or at least pretend you do).

Realize that your perspective is all ready full of symbols and you move beyond the physical and into the metaphysical.

Then the values in your perspective, the things, the objects, etc., are no longer more real or more substantial than your thoughts. It's all symbol and all on the same 'level'. A mountain takes no more effort to move than would a pencil. What matters is how it works in your perspective rather than what size it is or how complicated you think it might be.

Once you get the hang of it you'll find it much easier to work within this kind of reality that the one you're upholding now. It takes a lot of energy to make your symbols seem that real.



Practice :)

It is not difficult to change your perspective. You do it all the time anyway. You may as well know what you're doing and have some influence on it.

Do you mind a run down of the S,I,P,L of it?

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Behold the new symbols for Ecsys v2

Do you mind a run down of the S,I,P,L of it?

I am the golf guy. I am sure it's in the thread somewhere. To be honest I quit with the rules long ago.

I am the golf guy. I am sure it's in the thread somewhere. To be honest I quit with the rules long ago.

Did you consciously work to make it more relative? How long did you go through the motions before you gave up?

Yes I had to do a brand new symbol


I thought that was you, funny I've started playing myself.
I remember you having some issues with your symbol also. Have you made another?

About six months. Then the kids started playing with it so I thought it was interacting. Now it's sitting on the floor of the garage.

@Chaol,

Am I on the right track too think that by selecting the values that define my experience I can help direct that experience?

@Chaol, can you please give a simple example of this concept? Trying to make sense of this, and re-reading isn't working.

For example, I would like to stop smoking. I sometimes have doubt, which necessarily turns into reverting to smoking. So... ? Or, please use another example which will illustrate how doubt plays into outcome.

Thanks!

But if you doubt the symbol, that's an other story ;)

Hey Chaol me again lol,

When you say doubt the symbol you mean doubt it's existence rather than its capabilities correct? Which would be kinda weird if you were the one that created/discovered it to begin with lol.

And I finally made a symbol myself. A completely unrecognizable object no one would have any idea what to do with except me. Only problem, I forget to complete the rules I have made for it. I was supposed to cover it with toilet tissue before bed and bring it with me to the golf course today and forgot to do both. Will this just delay the perspective change or are there greater consequences?

I made my symbol about a year ago. I still have not experienced what I intended.

I was speaking in terms of doubting the Genius model or the 4 elements you have created, not necessarily your ability to cease smoking or something similar.

May I ask, why would you like to stop smoking?

Thank you, Chaol.
It's all crystal clear, except the part about the doing it in my mind. I may have to read it over a couple of times. Do I have to internalize the entire surroundings, or just what I want to work with?
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Let's say a bowl is broken and I want to fix it. Do I create an abstract symbol (Genius style), this time in my mind only, to represent the fixed bowl and work with it? Rules and all, but mentally?

Or do I imagine mentally to, let's say, dust off some books, to fix the bowl?

Ah, I see.

Your question is interesting. After getting past answers such as "It's bad for my health" and "I don't like smelling like smoke", I guess I would like to stop smoking to prove to myself that I am in fact in control of what I do, and with some consistency. At the root of it, I don't like being "addicted" to anything, or doing something which in one moment I know is not helping me evolve by continuing to do it. Even as I am doing it, I feel like I am failing myself. It makes me feel schizophrenic. Fractured. Does that make sense?

Thoughts? Advice? Thank you in advance.

Wow, six months? That's awesome. Did you adjust it at all? By the time it was retired was it almost nothing like it had originally started? Do/did you still care about your original intent? Did other relationships change to render you apathetic to it ever coming into your experience frame? I am really sorry about the 20 questions, I'm truly interested.

Hi.

Being aware of the symbols that comprise your experience would be a very helpful start.

Yes, you can direct your experience by giving more attention to those symbols that you think you would find in the new experience more.

Curious.

Did you mention that after trying with the symbols a few times you found out that you were doing it wrong.

Did you try again after finding out how to do it properly?

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You have only to symbolize it, not necessarily represent each element of your surroundings separately.

If you can represent 90% of your immediate surroundings with a single symbol (as I often do) then it should be enough.

Items on a table are not divorced from the table. I think a lot of us make this mistake, thinking that if they focus on X then it will have some effect.

When you levitate a chair, to take a fun example, you would not focus on the chair so much as you would your perspective and the relationship that the chair (a symbol) has with other elements in your perspective.

A chair would not exist in a vacuum of perspective and neither would manipulation of the chair.



Your questions prompt a few questions of my own about how you want to fix the bowl but here I will assume that you would want to return it to (what you perceive as) it's previous state.

That would not be possible because the broken bowl itself is a symbol. To 'unbreak' the bowl, the result may look like it has been fixed but the new symbol would be different from the previous symbol (before the bowl was broken).

You could have its previous state but then your perspective would also be in its previous state and you would not know the difference nor know that it is broken.

In this way, part of your perspective is 'broken' and not the bowl itself. The bowl was just the easiest way for your perspective to express its 'brokenness', all things considered (Ecsys Prime). Focusing on the bowl would probably produce no more than frustration.

Other things to consider, in your imagination:

:Does it have the same structure or rules? What comes to mind when you think of the logical steps to the experience of a perspective that the bowl is fixed in?

::How is the space or potential energy the same or different from it's current space when you imagine the unbroken bowl?

:::How does the "future" unbroken/fixed bowl interact with the "present" perspective?

You can work this out in your imagination because it is a part of your perspective. If you imagine a reality where the bowl is unbroken then you are actually perceiving that in your current reality. You then only need to learn about it in order to experience it.

It's the same thing like when you dream. Perhaps a few moments after you lay down and close your eyes you sense in your imagination a quick glimmer of something. Focusing on this dream glimmer you start to sense its more expanded reality. The glimmer becomes the light shining off of a car. The next thing you know you are sitting in the car with the radio on going to your friend's house.

We do this quickly when we dream. And the above questions will help you to begin to do this more consciously now. It will be second nature to you.

Some may call it focus. But "focus" works when you are not focused on the thing itself but the reality of the thing.

When you want to experience something do not focus on it directly. Focus on it's surroundings, instead. Focus on the whole perspective (even if you're just guessing). Those values that define the thing you want to experience.

(As something exists only in relation to something else.)

I hope this helps.

Hmmmm. I would have intuitively thought I should select the symbols where the value reflects the value/perspective I desire.