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These pole shif people are totally insane ... they belong locked up so they dont indoctrinate their kids with that stuff.
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lol4me Welcome back, Prof Rabbit!!

Melfy has missed you so!!

Like an infected festering boil on my ass.
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Prof Rabbit... long time no see!

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Your list-making friend has been away for awhile now. Perhaps he has gotten himself BANNED!
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Who me? Nope.

excited

You only wish. I don't know how much posting I'll be doing. I stepped outside to get something out of the truck only to discover that the front porch steps were covered with ice. Unfortunately, I didn't make that discovery until AFTER I fell flat on my back and slid down them. Now I have a gash on my right forearm and it hurts a bit.

sinking

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I bet Nancy will be gushing about Starchild Obama winning the Nobel prize, since the Zetas appear to be Democrats. I'm sure she will claim that the quakes in the Pacific this week prove planet x is out there, somewhere. I bet she has a truly hilarious explanation prepared for us. Her thread last week stalled at page 7, showing her popularity is dwindling. She might keep some people interested if she would answer their questions and not be so rude to them.
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Funny how the "Zetas" didn't mention Obama getting the Peace Prize...but I won't be surprised if she tries to say "Zetas right again!"
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Funny how the "Zetas" didn't mention Obama getting the Peace Prize...but I won't be surprised if she tries to say "Zetas right again!"
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker

Of course. They originally said that he wouldn't get the democratic nomination, but that didn't stop them from being right again when he was elected president, so this should be no different. Zetas Right Again!!
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I bet Nancy will be gushing about Starchild Obama winning the Nobel prize, since the Zetas appear to be Democrats. I'm sure she will claim that the quakes in the Pacific this week prove planet x is out there, somewhere. I bet she has a truly hilarious explanation prepared for us. Her thread last week stalled at page 7, showing her popularity is dwindling. She might keep some people interested if she would answer their questions and not be so rude to them.
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Yeah ... this will be a very entertaining ZetardTalk tonight.
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2) A more compelling question, (to me anyways) is why the hell would they?
What would motivate our ancestors to do all that physical work?
We certainly don't see that kind of desire in modern man.


That one I've given some thought to. Remember what the
conditions were at that time. You had regular floods that
could be timed and counted on. Bountiful harvests which
lead to a population explosion, and a workforce of farmers
with a period of time on their hands where they didn't
have much to do. Why not put that bunch to work and have
them believe that they will be assisting the very gods in
doing so? Think WPA and the CCC in the 1930s. Those guys
felt like they were improving the country and worked for
very little to do what they did.
Quoting Dr. Postman

Greetings;
Comment on this question.
I have points to bring up on Abraham/Sodom which I will do it in another post.


1) The analogy of the 1930's "new deal" work projects has a different worker motivation. During the 1930's the motivation of the workers was income to feed themselves, and government justified the expense by building things useful to the greater society, within the context of a severe economic downturn.

The Egyptians were building large shapes in the desert, we presume for the gods or divine pharaoh, with no clearly defined use (from our perspective) for those shapes.(none of the 3 pyramids having any evidence of being burial chambers)
As you have stated, these Egyptian folks were well fed and multiplying and not motivated by basic necessity.

IMO, very different context between 2500 BC Egypt and 1930 AD USA and different motivational reasons.

2) The theory of worker motivation created by love for the gods or pharaoh is possible. To some degree motivation based on the common folk having strong "faith" in the state religious and governing structure. This could mean that the elite of society also had that strong "faith", or the elite was using the folks "faith" to achieve the elites ends. Presuming that the pharaoh was the driving force behind the building program.

If the Giza Pyramids were built by man during times of a healthy economy, then I could only conclude that the motivating factor must be in their religious thinking. Something within their historical past could have caused the society to believe in something "godlike" and they became motivated by that belief to build monuments of this scale.

Would "belief" be motivation enough to build 3 pyramids, with no known purpose other than looking good on the Giza Plateau? Why this design? Where did they get the idea of building a "pyramid"? (not only in Egypt)

3) We also see many "copycat" pyramids around Egypt. Some are dated by "science" before Pharaoh Khufu (2500 BC) and his son/grandson, and some after.

All are of inferior quality, which would indicate (using Pharaoh built theory) that the craftsmanship used to build the 3 Giza pyramids was gained then lost quickly, but the desire to build pyramids remained.

The alternative theory is that the behaviour of the Egyptian pharoahs in the building of the other pyramids was
an emulation of the "gods" who had the skills necessary to build the three Giza pyramids.The pharaohs then being
unable to duplicate those building skills leave pyramids of inferior quality.
This theory would suggest a far older building date of the 3 Giza Pyramids followed by Pharaoh built of inferior design, which could fit the facts.


Summary;

Based on Pharaoh built, the question remains as to where "they" got the skills to do this project, and why they lost those skills after only 3 Pharaohs.

We must also consider that as man or "god" we are purposeful builders.
The question still remains as to what was the 3 Pyramids original purpose?


Regards
JWD

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Based on the eyewitness accounts, and the "Angels" ability to time the event, would not indicate that geologic
activity caused Sodom and Gomorrahs destruction.
Any other possible causes?

J.William Dell


Pyroclastic flows that contain a much higher proportion of gas to rock are known as "fully dilute pyroclastic density currents" or pyroclastic surges. The lower density sometimes allows them to flow over higher topographic features such as ridges and hills. They may also contain steam, water and rock at less than 250 °C (482 °F) these are called "cold" compared with other flows, although the temperature is still lethally high. Cold pyroclastic surges can occur when the eruption is from a vent under a shallow lake or the sea. Fronts of some pyroclastic density currents are fully dilute, for example during the eruption of Montagne Pelée in 1902 a fully dilute current overwhelmed the city of Saint-Pierre and killed nearly 30,000 people.[4]

A pyroclastic flow is a type of gravity current; in scientific literature they are sometimes abbreviated to PDC (pyroclastic density current).

It is common for pyroclastic flows to also generate pyroclastic surges.
 Quoting: Prof_Rabbit


Using this for background.
[link to www.christiananswers.net]

I recognize the location of Sodom/Gomorrah on a fault line and the presence of bitumen in the area. This is a possible explanation.

Can you provide any other examples from geologic history that do not include volcanic eruption?

I will respond further on this item by combining your comments and Dr. Postman. Time runs out today ;o)

Regards
JWD
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ZetardTalk live chat begins ... lets start the live debunking !
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ZetardTalk live chat begins ... lets start the live debunking !
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Immediately after posting this I was banned by Nancy and had to change my IP to get back .... Nancy is totally horrified by the ebunkers thread. It was my only post today that possibly could lead to a ban, so it definately was her.

BTW, MODs ... what is your opinion about this ... I am thinking about becoming a paying member to support the ZetaTalk debunking ... but if people get banned all the time for this I wont sign up for sure.
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ZetardTalk live chat begins ... lets start the live debunking !


Immediately after posting this I was banned by Nancy and had to change my IP to get back .... Nancy is totally horrified by the ebunkers thread. It was my only post today that possibly could lead to a ban, so it definately was her.

BTW, MODs ... what is your opinion about this ... I am thinking about becoming a paying member to support the ZetaTalk debunking ... but if people get banned all the time for this I wont sign up for sure.
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bump
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Nancy is in form tonight. Apparently the south pole got lost in the earthquakes this week. No problem though, apparently it was found, it was just a wobble thing. Zetas right again, or so she says.
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Nancy is in form tonight. Apparently the south pole got lost in the earthquakes this week. No problem though, apparently it was found, it was just a wobble thing. Zetas right again, or so she says.
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The South Pole got LOST? What did it do, walk away?
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Here is Nancy's explanation.

SOZT
The recent loss of a S Pole during the spate of strong quakes in Samoa/Sumatra [link to www.zetatalk.com]
shows the relationship between the magnetic clash from Planet X and earthquakes. The Earth wobble becomes more violent when the N Pole of Planet X is hosing in the direction of Earth. This push is present daily, but can be more violent if Planet X happens to be swinging its N Pole in Earth’s direction. There is a dithering going on. All this will continue to increase in frequency and intensity, finally resulting in a severe wobble and then the lean to the left. However, a violent push is not necessarily going to record on the magnetometer simulators are the loss of a S Pole. There are many factors at play, simultaneously.
EOZT
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Here is Nancy's explanation.

SOZT
There is a dithering going on. All this will continue to increase in frequency and intensity, finally resulting in a severe wobble and then the lean to the left. However, a violent push is not necessarily going to record on the magnetometer simulators are the loss of a S Pole. There are many factors at play, simultaneously.
EOZT
 Quoting: KeepingItReal


THAT's classic LIEDer bullshit!
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Here is Nancy's explanation.

SOZT
The recent loss of a S Pole during the spate of strong quakes in Samoa/Sumatra [link to www.zetatalk.com]
shows the relationship between the magnetic clash from Planet X and earthquakes. The Earth wobble becomes more violent when the N Pole of Planet X is hosing in the direction of Earth. This push is present daily, but can be more violent if Planet X happens to be swinging its N Pole in Earth’s direction. There is a dithering going on. All this will continue to increase in frequency and intensity, finally resulting in a severe wobble and then the lean to the left. However, a violent push is not necessarily going to record on the magnetometer simulators are the loss of a S Pole. There are many factors at play, simultaneously.
EOZT
 Quoting: KeepingItReal



If that isn't a sign that zetadrool is either a delusion or poor performance art I don't know what is....
non sufficit Orbis

Being a zetatard means never having to make sense.

"Nancy pays me to post on Her threads"

Free Store admits to being a paid zetadrool shill

NO max/bridget EVER!!!!!
NO luser EVER!!!
NO clunker EVER!!!!!
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ZetardTalk live chat begins ... lets start the live debunking !


Immediately after posting this I was banned by Nancy and had to change my IP to get back .... Nancy is totally horrified by the ebunkers thread. It was my only post today that possibly could lead to a ban, so it definately was her.

BTW, MODs ... what is your opinion about this ... I am thinking about becoming a paying member to support the ZetaTalk debunking ... but if people get banned all the time for this I wont sign up for sure.
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You are in good company. Most of us have been banned at one time or another. Nancy just can't stand any dissent. This is the main reason why I haven't signed on as a paid member, though I haven't posted on her thread for months and don't intend to. It's a matter of principle. Her bans usually only last 24 hours, but you might want to email Dr. Postman if the ban isn't lifted by this time tomorrow. He has always been helpful when I have been banned.
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Fortunately, Nancy has posted a definition of "dither". I guess it's supposed to make the previous quote make sense. ROFLMAO!

Today there where a couple of earthquakes again, in the pacific. A few days ago there wher some large earthquakes also in the pacific that caused no damage. And last week the Zetas answered a question about the earhtquake that hit indonesia and Samoa. Since the earthquakes are still going on this area can we conclude that the wobble has gotten stronger?

SOZT
The press of the magnetic N Pole of Planet X is increasingly being turned toward Earth. This is a dither, not a steady linear movement, so will come and go, but with increasing frequency and violence.
EOZT

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SOZT
The press of the magnetic N Pole of Planet X is increasingly being turned toward Earth. This is a dither, not a steady linear movement, so will come and go, but with increasing frequency and violence.
EOZT

 Quoting: KeepingItReal


Bit like Nancy's temper.
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Wow, they are up to 8 pages on Nancy's thread this week. Unfortunately for Nancy, most of the posts are by a couple of people disrupting her chat. She doesn't dare delete them, or the thread would be a pathetic 4 pages.
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Wow, they are up to 8 pages on Nancy's thread this week. Unfortunately for Nancy, most of the posts are by a couple of people disrupting her chat. She doesn't dare delete them, or the thread would be a pathetic 4 pages.
 Quoting: KeepingItReal


She's a devious old bat. Notice how ZetaMax never shows up on ZT threads, at least when Nancy's around.......
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ZetardTalk live chat begins ... lets start the live debunking !


Immediately after posting this I was banned by Nancy and had to change my IP to get back .... Nancy is totally horrified by the ebunkers thread. It was my only post today that possibly could lead to a ban, so it definately was her.

BTW, MODs ... what is your opinion about this ... I am thinking about becoming a paying member to support the ZetaTalk debunking ... but if people get banned all the time for this I wont sign up for sure.
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Fuck you LIE!

Dr Postman knows you are bullshitting, yet, he remains silent. What's the matter Postman ... does that cat got yer tongue again?
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Saw telescopes tracking Jupiter last weekend, for hours. Where was the figure 8?

SOZT
Where a scope is anchored on a planet or star, and adjusted either automatically or manually to stay on target, the Earth wobble cannot be sensed. As Jupiter would MOVE during the night, the Earth moving under it so to speak, it MUST be adjusted, and this is done by computer, keeping the focus on the planet or star selected.
EOZT
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Priceless.
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Saw telescopes tracking Jupiter last weekend, for hours. Where was the figure 8?

SOZT
Where a scope is anchored on a planet or star, and adjusted either automatically or manually to stay on target, the Earth wobble cannot be sensed. As Jupiter would MOVE during the night, the Earth moving under it so to speak, it MUST be adjusted, and this is done by computer, keeping the focus on the planet or star selected.
EOZT
 Quoting: Nancy Lieder

My god....the woman has absolutely no clue as to what she's talking about. Nothing new really. This is just a glaring example of how her "answer" doesn't really say anything at all.
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Today was interesting. Messed up my right arm falling slipping on the ice and falling down the stairs. The ice eventually melted so we ventured out so I could get some thermals and a knit hat. Also got my daughter one and some better insulated mittens. Then we went to dinner at Texas Roadhouse in Monument...they have really good pork ribs. The drive home was treacherous though. It drizzled while we were inside and it was enough to make the streets wet...which then promptly started freezing up. We encountered numerous accidents on the way home...one was a four car pile up that closed the side of the freeway we were on and one rollover in the center median at the exit where we get off the freeway. Our sidewalk and front steps were ice again...but I knew to check it this time. May go to an urgent care tomorrow to have my arm checked...it doesn't hurt much, but the wrist is really stiff with a tender spot on the anterior part of the wrist and another larger tender spot just below my elbow. Probably just bruised the snot out of it because I hit hard.
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Saw telescopes tracking Jupiter last weekend, for hours. Where was the figure 8?

SOZT
Where a scope is anchored on a planet or star, and adjusted either automatically or manually to stay on target, the Earth wobble cannot be sensed. As Jupiter would MOVE during the night, the Earth moving under it so to speak, it MUST be adjusted, and this is done by computer, keeping the focus on the planet or star selected.
EOZT

My god....the woman has absolutely no clue as to what she's talking about. Nothing new really. This is just a glaring example of how her "answer" doesn't really say anything at all.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker

Nancy counts on there being people even less informed than herself. It is the only thing that keeps her going.

I have to say, I kinda feel bad for her this week. Her thread was sequestered from the very start tonight, and she was just a sideshow on her own thread. I can't figure that one out. Someone comes on to debunk her and they get deleted and banned, but another person can fill page after page with silliness and sidetrack the whole thread, yet she allows it to continue.
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ZetardTalk live chat begins ... lets start the live debunking !


Immediately after posting this I was banned by Nancy and had to change my IP to get back .... Nancy is totally horrified by the ebunkers thread. It was my only post today that possibly could lead to a ban, so it definately was her.

BTW, MODs ... what is your opinion about this ... I am thinking about becoming a paying member to support the ZetaTalk debunking ... but if people get banned all the time for this I wont sign up for sure.




Fuck you LIE!

Dr Postman knows you are bullshitting, yet, he remains silent. What's the matter Postman ... does that cat got yer tongue again?
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No I was not lying ... Nancy is know for doing this ... she did not want to have the debunkers thread on the front page and I was up to do live debunking, just this thread would be on top all the time.

I am totally sure it was Nancy who banned me 3 times in a row ... because I was banned immediately after posting here and I dont think another mod would have interest in banning me ... also I did not post banworthy stuff on other threads.

But in the meantime I signed up as free member and if all goes well I will be a paying member soon (after I got that paypal stuff and all done).

Lets see if she dares to ban a paying member who posts only on the debunkers thread ... since I respect and support the boycott I dont post on her thread at all.

btw,

Hello to all fellow debunkers from another AC who turned to be a signed member ... I was so pissed by her banning me today for nothing but posting here that I decided attack is the best defensive move.
If the freedom of speech is taken away then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter.

Nowadays it is about as big a crime to be dumb as it is to be dishonest.
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Here is Nancy's explanation.

SOZT
The recent loss of a S Pole during the spate of strong quakes in Samoa/Sumatra [link to www.zetatalk.com]
shows the relationship between the magnetic clash from Planet X and earthquakes. The Earth wobble becomes more violent when the N Pole of Planet X is hosing in the direction of Earth. This push is present daily, but can be more violent if Planet X happens to be swinging its N Pole in Earth’s direction. There is a dithering going on. All this will continue to increase in frequency and intensity, finally resulting in a severe wobble and then the lean to the left. However, a violent push is not necessarily going to record on the magnetometer simulators are the loss of a S Pole. There are many factors at play, simultaneously.
EOZT



If that isn't a sign that zetadrool is either a delusion or poor performance art I don't know what is....
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That's right! You *DON'T* know what is....
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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