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Yes, when you are able to read ZT with an open mind and your heart it can be a reminder of why you are here, a spark for more questions [no connection to a sparked soul here, I just don't know another word]. The Zetas Message is in the main about the Transformation of Earth into what they named the next density, aspects of spirtuality [everyting that deals with the soul]. If one wants to dig deeper, he or she may find some answers or not. Also, you will find a lot of stuff that cannot be proven and some [but not all] stuff like pictures of which are not showing planet x nor moon swirls or whatever. This whole thing is a huge script which is playing out and every element of doubt is placed there intentionally.

One who reads Zetatalk is then able to determine his pace of "awakening" on his own by digging deeper and eventually connection several dots which leads to a different picture. I don't like the word awakening though. It is more a switch in the dream patterns [in humans] about the alien presence, so to speak.

However, the above is my opinion and nothing more. I cannot prove any of this, of course not. But I can compare the Zetas Message with my own life experience.

At the end all of it is about at onement with God in soul nature, to me, I must admit.




She has to know about the concepts and understand them roughly otherwise she wouldn't be able to translate stuff from the Zetas. She had to read all of this and when there is something about math for example she cannot relay what the zetas say about specifics. The script which is played out includes literature about planet x and all the other stuff.

Panta, you happen to be talking to someone who used to be a mod over at the NG, if anyone has read all about Zetatalk it would be MoreAboutTunnelVision. They know exactly what they are talking about. They also know what a fraud Nancy is which is why they are no longer a mod at the NG.

Don't think we haven't read ZT, we have, I will not speak for others but myself, I find nothing that will help my spiritual side, all I see is fearmongering, fraudulent claims of other peoples pictures and an old lady who has had an easy life living off her donations.
Her apartment complex looks very nice, must cost her a bit. I haven't been there but I have seen pictures of it where astronomers were asking her to come out so they could show her through a telescope she was wrong, she declined because 'she was already in her pyjamas'.

A little bit Off Topic - but can't resist.

Made a couple of H(alpha) shots two days ago with some nice solar prominences.

Processed the photos today, when my lady looked over my shoulder and said
"What's that for a smut?"

:solprom0:

After applying the famous "Poli filter" - often used by Poli to show the secrets
in Flarebertos photos (Just a little gamma correction) - I got this:

:solprom1:

I think Ann S(tupid), Poli and Nancy (left to right)


(Sorry, ladies and boys - sometimes I'm a little pervert)


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Nope, the supposed "Transformation to fourth density" is supposedly occuring in 100 years so not in our lifetime.
Nancy speaks about Planet X and how it is related to the poleshift and how this should influence peoples spiritual orientation in the main.

The Sciene stuff, all the myths etc just came up because PEOPLE are curious about these questions.. and since Nancy claims she speaks with the Zetas how could she evade answering those? Ever thought of that?



Depends what you define by "answers"...
If these are claims that you have to believe to before they can "work for you", then I'd rather stay away from those.



The actual question should be: What of it is even proven at all??




See above.
So far, all these concepts purely relay on trust, belief = not something objective, i.e. your own judgement can decieve your perception of reality.

The "element of doubt" is just another excuse that she has absolute nothing solid to offer.



"This awakening" is nothing supernatural, doesn't even need to be related to outside influences.
Comes time, comes change, comes lessons, comes conclusions.
Nothing special.

Again, there's no "deeper understanding" of ZT as a whole.
I surely am very familiar with it... again I invite you to be more precise on what you think is the point we're all supposedly missing.




Just as mine.




Then why do you believe it??
Do you just believe something if you hear it?

You'll see that in order to have something influencing your life, these claims must first pass your "filter" which is basically a relation to other experiences.
So, where did you felt confirmation? The more specific you are the more we can figure out wether its purely based on trust or wether there is something tangible in it.




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And?
Are they so hard to "understand"? Really?




Thats BS.. another excuse to cover her total lack of education and the fact that she's making it up.
I mean, the Zetas are supposed to do the thinking and calculations, not her.
Nancy is (supposedly) a printer and whenever she does these really dumb mistakes you'll see that whoever told her these things had absolute no clue about the variables involved.

Basically, thats always the case when Nancy starts typing on her keyboard.

Last Edited by MoreAboutTunnelVision on 04/06/2013 04:49 PM

My German - English dictionary denominates "density" as a synonym for "stupidity".

Sorry Panta, no need for me to be transformed into the next stupidity by the Zetas.

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[link to www.dict.cc]

Yes, Nancy's Hale-Bopp Star Party:

[link to www.laughton.com]
[link to www.laughton.com]

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11 . density - Dummheit {f}

He isn't even wrong about his claims :)

Last Edited by MoreAboutTunnelVision on 04/06/2013 04:50 PM

You guys win, I think I give up. It was nice chatting with you.

Take care!

Good night. Its not about winning or losing though...

At least for me it never was...
For me, of importance is how we interact with our environment... and wether its a good appoach or not.

N8

Last Edited by MoreAboutTunnelVision on 04/06/2013 04:56 PM

Wow, and just looking at the rent prices of the apartment complex she lives in, for a 1 bedroom the cheapest price is $1715.
Now we know why she is so desperate to keep donators/believers.
Keep her living in luxury!

She's not living there anymore to my knowledge...
Not hard to look her new loc up either...if you wildly google her Name + street... and well.. be creative... nuff said.

Last Edited by MoreAboutTunnelVision on 04/06/2013 05:00 PM

Oh she has moved?
To move from a private lakeside apartment complex with it's own swimming pool to god knows what her believers are paying for now, I don't think I want to look at what she has upgraded to.
No wonder she keeps that carrott on a stick!!

Naw. She tries to stay "low profile"... with her own little garden and all...
You know, she once thought the media may be knocking on her door... and how could she claim to believe her own BS without having a garden and all?
Heh.

God knows what is on her bank-account though..
I know of at least a couple k-transactions (donations) from PS-members...

She surely has a lot of time on her hand and ain't suffering hunger either... ^^

BTW: Look up "the Zetas Talk" on Youtube..
Eric Pham, some guy being after money interviewed her at home. -
He thought there might be some potential with her story... (he also created that iPhone App)... but seemingly discarded the whole thing...
Suprise suprise...

Titanic already 2000ft deep.

Last Edited by MoreAboutTunnelVision on 04/06/2013 05:09 PM

Low profile, living on a street named that?

Ironic. Ain't it?

Ok I looked, nice neighborhood, nice size houses, nice porch, idyllic setting.
Darn it, I need to find me some gullible people.

^^ Don't think you'd want to have a horde after you.
Do you? :P

mmh mmb mmbrrh brrraaaains


Last Edited by MoreAboutTunnelVision on 04/06/2013 05:19 PM

Noted that.

Last Edited by MoreAboutTunnelVision on 04/06/2013 05:18 PM

Haha, perhaps not.

LOL!
Additionally there's a spycrab on the left, [link to 24.media.tumblr.com]

:P

EDIT: I immagined creating a thread.
Title: "Spycrab walking the sun - THE SUN IS A SPY!"

EDIT #2:
More proof coming up!!
[link to www.imagebanana.com]



Last Edited by MoreAboutTunnelVision on 04/06/2013 06:29 PM

Lol, I actually see a pig on the right and a humanoid bending down in front of it.
Pareidolia, got to love it! lol.

No wonder... These images (esp due to the amazing filter) first swirl inward our retina, then twirl slightly sideways, flip upside-down and finally funnel back!
Flashy!


Last Edited by MoreAboutTunnelVision on 04/06/2013 05:48 PM

Why would you listen to Nancy as an authority on anything, including spirituality when she has been publicly caught lying, plagiarizing, spreading disinformation, and creating a dubious non profit for personal gain? What kind of spiritual message and insight can you expect from a woman who is known for her nastiness, who advocated the killing of pets, encouraged young people to quit school, advised people to abandon family if they didn't support their delusions about the failed 2003 poleshift, someone who will never admit they are wrong, and when they can't deny anymore, blame others for her fails. Nancy is guilty of all of the above and more. Why do you look to someone like her for spiritual guidance?

She's long gone from there - she's in North Freedom, Wisconsin.

We discuss it here at GLP every day, you are classically funny cult members, comedy gold!

Don't stray too far from "Nancy truth" - Nancy has a "chip" in her head from the zeta's, get it wrong and Nancy will throw you out of the ning and you will have to attach your self to another "DOOM!" message by another fruitcake...

Goodbye, don't forget to send your spare cash to Nancy....

If you're looking for spiritual awakening and atonement there are quite a few other texts that have stood the test of time and are far more enlightening than the fear mongering pseudo-scientific flapdoodle of that bitter old woman.