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Aether,

I didn't mean you specifically. Just tossing out some musings. Just re-read what I was trying to say as a "theory" of sorts and realized I could of used different language/editing. I type this on my phone and its tough to go back and read and edit.

A thought came to mind before too in reference to the male/female aspects of these chakras. I am getting there may be 2 different (one male/one female) divine aspects to each chakra possibly to emulate??? Also the mental/emotional aspects to overcome. I just get ideas so who knows but it crept into my thinking before so its possible something is there. Any ideas anyone?

I'm probably talking to the choir and you guys/gals are passed this :) Of course if I did a google search too...

Divine Being/presence

Divine Co-creating/creativity/pro-creation

Divine will/action

Divine Love

Divine expression/blessing

Divine imagination/envision/co-creation

Divine knowing/wisdom/intuition
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the thing that has driven everyone nuts for thousands of years was not "what is the structure of reality"
we inherited the blue print of that and saw how it fitted quite quickly

the nutty part was what force/energy made it function (move)

if it was a god, how did the god do it because there was no inherited blueprint that we could see that told us

so it was relegated to a god`s will

and will was never defined because it was undefinable by us because we could never discover what a gods will is

but we kept looking for it
 Quoting: aether


Try this aether:
We can't truly know the almighties will but only ask for it. What we may see is a sign, message, or synchronicity, etc.
Some of the various aspects of the almighty to align ourselves with are expressed in the divine expressions of the 7 plus chakras. Didn't the almighty make us in its image???

Thinking. on our own never, ever gets us "THERE."
We have to ask to have the divine mind to be our mind or else ego rules the day. What we receive then is access to the omniscient divine mind, higher intuition, and a witnessing knowing state of being. We see things in an entirely new light as we can see the almighty at work. We see with the eyes of a child.

One has to do enough of the inner work to blessed with having all these chakras activated. If you haven't resolved fear and hate and know what your character traits are then how can the heart and root chakra work optimally. We want all this stuff cleared including our mind. If we treasure thinking and intelligence and objects of any sort then we have already lost. I hope this makes sense. Take care.
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You can also do this without making yourself a vessel for something outside by simply realizing the energy that animates your body is the real "you", not the body and it's wants/needs/idiosyncrasies. We're all a spark of the source that's simply individuated to carry back experience from which it came. Intelligence and thinking are part of that experience, how we gather and use it is more important than many realize. Anything material, including the body, is simply a tool or toy, depending on how you use it.
 Quoting: Bea Nameless


I like this Bea. I get glimpses at times but it doesn't stick. I really need to meditate better and much more often (without falling asleep!) :)

Another thought is dream control and how certain "monks" for lack of a better word meditate instead of sleeping or sleep very little as a result of meditating alot instead. It's seems like we "forget" because we sleep. I at least tend to do this when I am less "awake in my life" overall. I really wonder if it isn't advantageous to be more aware during "sleep time." Conscious dreaming and/or meditating instead of "going to sleep."
Anyone??
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Aether,

I didn't mean you specifically. Just tossing out some musings. Just re-read what I was trying to say as a "theory" of sorts and realized I could of used different language/editing. I type this on my phone and its tough to go back and read and edit.

A thought came to mind before too in reference to the male/female aspects of these chakras. I am getting there may be 2 different (one male/one female) divine aspects to each chakra possibly to emulate??? Also the mental/emotional aspects to overcome. I just get ideas so who knows but it crept into my thinking before so its possible something is there. Any ideas anyone?

I'm probably talking to the choir and you guys/gals are passed this :) Of course if I did a google search too...

Divine Being/presence

Divine Co-creating/creativity/pro-creation

Divine will/action

Divine Love

Divine expression/blessing

Divine imagination/envision/co-creation

Divine knowing/wisdom/intuition
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1613938


As far as the almighty in relation to this :

1st chakra. existence/existing

2nd chakra. creating

3rd chakra. action/doing/movement

4th chakra. love

5th chakra. the almighties grace

6th chakra. ?? envisioning creation

7th chakra. divine mind

It seems like we try to figure out what the almighties ultimately doing and its possible some of the answer can be found in the description of what these chakra expressions represent possibly. Of course there's more than 7 and the almighties infinite in scope but what I find important in some of these discussions is there may be some answers to be had from this possibly. Not sure if anything geometrically other than toroidal.

Also what I found of note is the 5th chakra as it seems to be interesting - Grace and blessing and expression. How many humans feel grace from the almighty? Or consistently? I didn't know how grace felt really or what it meant until I was spiritually awakened. Had no idea.

Its been said this is the age of blessing. Its something we get to learn how to do from what I've seen. What I am getting is instead of looking at everything that comes out of us (breath, other excrements, words) as a possible negative or not having an effect is instead view it as a necessary part of life or transmute it to good, or be positive, blessing, etc. Apparently some monks instead of breathing in good and blowing out the bad do the exact opposite thereby creating a more positive environment for us all. I think this is a great idea. I think we are taught wrong and feel negative about various aspects of what occurs and we learn it at a young age. Perhaps we really do get to express and bless. May you all be blessed in your endeavors and everything else for eternity...
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we inherited the shapes from our ancestors but we never understood many of our ancestors shaped symbols so when the greeks produced the model/blueprint our three most popular faiths use they all left out the swastika (vortice)

but the greeks did know spherical geometry because they knew our world was round and were forced to utilize it on occasions for that reason only

Atomism (from ancient Greek atomos, meaning "uncuttable") is a natural philosophy that developed in several ancient traditions. The atomists theorized that the natural world consists of two fundamental parts: indivisible atoms and empty void.

According to Aristotle, atoms are indestructible and immutable and there are an infinite variety of shapes and sizes. They move through the void, bouncing off each other, sometimes becoming hooked with one or more others to form a cluster. Clusters of different shapes, arrangements, and positions give rise to the various macroscopic substances in the world
 Quoting: observation


aristotles belief become the most popular fused into his teachers beliefs:

Plato (c. 427—c. 347 BC) objected to the mechanistic purposelessness of the atomism of Democritus. He argued that atoms just crashing into other atoms could never produce the beauty and form of the world. In the Timaeus, (28B – 29A) Plato insisted that the cosmos was not eternal but was created, although its creator framed it after an eternal, unchanging model
 Quoting: observation


things began to alter 2000 years later in our 1600`s

René Descartes' (1596–1650) "mechanical" philosophy of corpuscularism had much in common with atomism, and is considered, in some senses, to be a different version of it. Descartes thought everything physical in the universe to be made of tiny vortices of matter. Like the ancient atomists, Descartes claimed that sensations, such as taste or temperature, are caused by the shape and size of tiny pieces of matter. The main difference between atomism and Descartes' concept was the existence of the void. For him, there could be no vacuum, and all matter was constantly swirling to prevent a void as corpuscles moved through other matter. Another key distinction between Descartes' view and classical atomism is the mind/body duality of Descartes, which allowed for an independent realm of existence for thought, soul, and most importantly, God. Gassendi's concept was closer to classical atomism, but with no atheistic overtone.
 Quoting: observation

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so we kept our greeks way of fitting the inherited shapes together until very recently

Euclidean geometry

Euclidean geometry is a mathematical system attributed to the Alexandrian Greek mathematician Euclid, which he described in his textbook on geometry: the Elements. Euclid's method consists in assuming a small set of intuitively appealing axioms, and deducing many other propositions (theorems) from these.


................For over two thousand years, the adjective "Euclidean" was unnecessary because no other sort of geometry had been conceived. Euclid's axioms seemed so intuitively obvious that any theorem proved from them was deemed true in an absolute, often metaphysical, sense. Today, however, many other self-consistent non-Euclidean geometries are known, the first ones having been discovered in the early 19th century. An implication of Einstein's theory of general relativity is that Euclidean space is a good approximation to the properties of physical space only where the gravitational field is weak
 Quoting: observation

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it is only in our past few decades that we have discovered and tested how and why we see the shapes we do.as in:
what is it that forms and sustains plato solids and forces them to act (move) as they do

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Spherical geometry

Spherical geometry is the geometry of the two-dimensional surface of a sphere. It is an example of a geometry which is not Euclidean. Two practical applications of the principles of spherical geometry are to navigation and astronomy.

Muslims, according to Carra de Vaux, were "unquestionably the inventors of plane and spherical geometry, which did not, strictly speaking, exist among the Greeks". The book of unknown arcs of a sphere written by Islamic mathematician Al-Jayyani is considered to be the first treatise on spherical trigonometry. The book contains formulae for right-handed triangles, the general law of sines, and the solution of a spherical triangle by means of the polar triangle.

The book On Triangles by Regiomontanus, written around 1463, is the first pure trigonometrical work in Europe. However, Gerolamo Cardano noted a century later that much of the material there on spherical trigonometry was taken from the twelfth-century work of the Spanish Islamic scholar Jabir ibn Aflah
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

the tricky part for our faithful is this , what makes a sphere

our faithful believed spherical geometry only existed because euclidean space was inside whatever it was that was spherical to measure

In mathematics, a careful distinction is made between the sphere (a two-dimensional surface embedded in three-dimensional Euclidean space) and the ball (the interior of the three-dimensional sphere).
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

and the faithful believe a sphere exists because the space inside the sphere that provides the finished shape of the sphere is like this:

Euclidean space

In mathematics, Euclidean space is the Euclidean plane and three-dimensional space of Euclidean geometry, as well as the generalizations of these notions to higher dimensions. The term “Euclidean” distinguishes these spaces from the curved spaces of non-Euclidean geometry and Einstein's general theory of relativity, and is named for the Greek mathematician Euclid of Alexandria.
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you will notice there is no vortice designed into euclidean space alien03
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and this is the worry for our believers of our 3 faiths

for several thousand years the belief models have expressed aristotle`s teachers belief:

Plato (c. 427—c. 347 BC) objected to the mechanistic purposelessness of the atomism of Democritus. He argued that atoms just crashing into other atoms could never produce the beauty and form of the world. In the Timaeus, (28B – 29A) Plato insisted that the cosmos was not eternal but was created, although its creator framed it after an eternal, unchanging model
 Quoting: observation


which our three faiths express as this:

Linear time

Unlike many other religions, whose sense of time was basically cyclic, Judaism and Christianity worked to preserve a written linear history and mythic timeline, running from the creation to the end of the world. For example, in Aztec mythology the universe is created and destroyed repeatedly in a circular concept of History, but in Judaism and Christianity, the universe has been created only once and will be destroyed only once, and after its destruction it will be restored to perfection once and for all, having a lineal concept of time. Likewise, Islamic mythology has a linear time perspective, running from the creation to the end of the world and the establishment of paradise on heaven. Qur'an 56 describes the end times, the judgment of the dead, and the eternal reward and punishment of saints and sinners—an eschatological mythology similar to the storyline of the Christian Book of Revelation and to some elements in the Jewish Book of Isaiah and Book of Daniel.
 Quoting: observation

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in our recent rediscovery thus translation of our ancient ancestors symbol and sign of the vortice we by default discover the cause of shape motion labeled by our faithful as god`s will

this cause of shape motion is it`self an effect thus must have a cause which our faithful label god

our recent discoveries of the cause(s) of the effect labeled vortice (god`s will) identifies not only gods structure, in the minds of our believers but also god`s location
and
the consequences of the possibility, to our believers, that people can and do know such things regarding god is still being evaluated by the authorities believers authorize to authorize on such topics

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Spherical geometry

Spherical geometry is the geometry of the two-dimensional surface of a sphere. It is an example of a geometry which is not Euclidean. Two practical applications of the principles of spherical geometry are to navigation and astronomy.

Muslims, according to Carra de Vaux, were "unquestionably the inventors of plane and spherical geometry, which did not, strictly speaking, exist among the Greeks". The book of unknown arcs of a sphere written by Islamic mathematician Al-Jayyani is considered to be the first treatise on spherical trigonometry. The book contains formulae for right-handed triangles, the general law of sines, and the solution of a spherical triangle by means of the polar triangle.

The book On Triangles by Regiomontanus, written around 1463, is the first pure trigonometrical work in Europe. However, Gerolamo Cardano noted a century later that much of the material there on spherical trigonometry was taken from the twelfth-century work of the Spanish Islamic scholar Jabir ibn Aflah
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

the tricky part for our faithful is this , what makes a sphere

our faithful believed spherical geometry only existed because euclidean space was inside whatever it was that was spherical to measure

In mathematics, a careful distinction is made between the sphere (a two-dimensional surface embedded in three-dimensional Euclidean space) and the ball (the interior of the three-dimensional sphere).
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

and the faithful believe a sphere exists because the space inside the sphere that provides the finished shape of the sphere is like this:

Euclidean space

In mathematics, Euclidean space is the Euclidean plane and three-dimensional space of Euclidean geometry, as well as the generalizations of these notions to higher dimensions. The term “Euclidean” distinguishes these spaces from the curved spaces of non-Euclidean geometry and Einstein's general theory of relativity, and is named for the Greek mathematician Euclid of Alexandria.
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

you will notice there is no vortice designed into euclidean space alien03
 Quoting: aether


Instead of a place of inversion on the sphere (torus), they stopped at the sphere. Without the possibility of inversion, the sphere becomes recognized as a closed system.

There is no vortice, because there is no inversion.

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morning swinger
that sounds right i will have to look up inversion
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but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

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morning swinger
that sounds right i will have to look up inversion
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outside turning in, inside turning out, repeat.
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but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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whoa!

point me to the one to see

Inversion
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Came across this. In Euclidean space, they call the 'place' of inversion: Point Reflection. When you go to the link, you will see the vortice.

pointreflection

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In geometry, a point reflection or inversion in a point (or inversion through a point, or central inversion) is a type of isometry of Euclidean space. An object that is invariant under a point reflection is said to possess point symmetry; if it is invariant under point reflection through its center, it is said to possess central symmetry or to be centrally symmetric.

Point reflection can be classified as an affine transformation. Namely, it is an isometric involutive affine transformation, which has exactly one fixed point, which is the point of inversion. It is equivalent to a homothetic transformation with scale factor equal to -1. The point of inversion is also called homothetic center.
 Quoting: Wiki


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morning swinger
that sounds right i will have to look up inversion
 Quoting: aether


outside turning in, inside turning out, repeat.
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


oh
sounds like a word for phase conjugation

Phase conjugation is a physical transformation of a wave field where the resulting field has a reversed propagation direction but keeps is amplitudes and phases.
Description

It is distinguished from Time Reversal Signal Processing by the fact that phase conjugation uses an holographic or parametric pumping whereas time reversal records and re-emits the signal using transducers
 Quoting: observation

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which is an integral processes of our universe that we mention but have not fitted in yet
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Came across this. In Euclidean space, they call the 'place' of inversion: Point Reflection. When you go to the link, you will see the vortice.

pointreflection

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In geometry, a point reflection or inversion in a point (or inversion through a point, or central inversion) is a type of isometry of Euclidean space. An object that is invariant under a point reflection is said to possess point symmetry; if it is invariant under point reflection through its center, it is said to possess central symmetry or to be centrally symmetric.

Point reflection can be classified as an affine transformation. Namely, it is an isometric involutive affine transformation, which has exactly one fixed point, which is the point of inversion. It is equivalent to a homothetic transformation with scale factor equal to -1. The point of inversion is also called homothetic center.
 Quoting: Wiki

 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals



Look at the 'dilation diagram' at the link.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
In geometry, an affine transformation (from the Latin, affinis, "connected with") or dilation is a transformation that takes parallel lines to parallel lines.[1][2] Among the affine transformations or dilations are translations, which are characterized by the property of having no fixed point. A dilation which is not a translation has a fixed point.[3] For every pair of line segments AB and A'B' in the affine plane, there is a dilation mapping the first to the second.[4] An affine transformation preserves ratios of distances between points lying on a straight line (e.g., the midpoint of a line segment remains the midpoint after transformation). It does not necessarily preserve angles or lengths.
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whoa!

point me to the one to see

Inversion
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: aether


The one's most apt for our discussion is the Mathematics/logic links.
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morning swinger
that sounds right i will have to look up inversion
 Quoting: aether


outside turning in, inside turning out, repeat.
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


oh
sounds like a word for phase conjugation

Phase conjugation is a physical transformation of a wave field where the resulting field has a reversed propagation direction but keeps is amplitudes and phases.
Description

It is distinguished from Time Reversal Signal Processing by the fact that phase conjugation uses an holographic or parametric pumping whereas time reversal records and re-emits the signal using transducers
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

which is an integral processes of our universe that we mention but have not fitted in yet
 Quoting: aether


rockon
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but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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Came across this. In Euclidean space, they call the 'place' of inversion: Point Reflection. When you go to the link, you will see the vortice.

pointreflection

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
In geometry, a point reflection or inversion in a point (or inversion through a point, or central inversion) is a type of isometry of Euclidean space. An object that is invariant under a point reflection is said to possess point symmetry; if it is invariant under point reflection through its center, it is said to possess central symmetry or to be centrally symmetric.

Point reflection can be classified as an affine transformation. Namely, it is an isometric involutive affine transformation, which has exactly one fixed point, which is the point of inversion. It is equivalent to a homothetic transformation with scale factor equal to -1. The point of inversion is also called homothetic center.
 Quoting: Wiki

 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals



Look at the 'dilation diagram' at the link.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
In geometry, an affine transformation (from the Latin, affinis, "connected with") or dilation is a transformation that takes parallel lines to parallel lines.[1][2] Among the affine transformations or dilations are translations, which are characterized by the property of having no fixed point. A dilation which is not a translation has a fixed point.[3] For every pair of line segments AB and A'B' in the affine plane, there is a dilation mapping the first to the second.[4] An affine transformation preserves ratios of distances between points lying on a straight line (e.g., the midpoint of a line segment remains the midpoint after transformation). It does not necessarily preserve angles or lengths.
 Quoting: Wiki

 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


whoa!
what a complexity of number !!!
feels like our mathematicians over the past few thousand years had orgasm after orgasm seeing number cause shapes to move
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Came across this. In Euclidean space, they call the 'place' of inversion: Point Reflection. When you go to the link, you will see the vortice.

pointreflection

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
In geometry, a point reflection or inversion in a point (or inversion through a point, or central inversion) is a type of isometry of Euclidean space. An object that is invariant under a point reflection is said to possess point symmetry; if it is invariant under point reflection through its center, it is said to possess central symmetry or to be centrally symmetric.

Point reflection can be classified as an affine transformation. Namely, it is an isometric involutive affine transformation, which has exactly one fixed point, which is the point of inversion. It is equivalent to a homothetic transformation with scale factor equal to -1. The point of inversion is also called homothetic center.
 Quoting: Wiki

 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals



Look at the 'dilation diagram' at the link.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
In geometry, an affine transformation (from the Latin, affinis, "connected with") or dilation is a transformation that takes parallel lines to parallel lines.[1][2] Among the affine transformations or dilations are translations, which are characterized by the property of having no fixed point. A dilation which is not a translation has a fixed point.[3] For every pair of line segments AB and A'B' in the affine plane, there is a dilation mapping the first to the second.[4] An affine transformation preserves ratios of distances between points lying on a straight line (e.g., the midpoint of a line segment remains the midpoint after transformation). It does not necessarily preserve angles or lengths.
 Quoting: Wiki

 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


whoa!
what a complexity of number !!!
feels like our mathematicians over the past few thousand years had orgasm after orgasm seeing number cause shapes to move
 Quoting: aether


ohyeah
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Point reflection

In geometry, a point reflection or inversion in a point (or inversion through a point, or central inversion) is a type of isometry of Euclidean space. An object that is invariant under a point reflection is said to possess point symmetry; if it is invariant under point reflection through its center, it is said to possess central symmetry or to be centrally symmetric.

Point reflection can be classified as an affine transformation. Namely, it is an isometric involutive affine transformation, which has exactly one fixed point, which is the point of inversion. It is equivalent to a homothetic transformation with scale factor equal to -1. The point of inversion is also called homothetic center.
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Homothetic center

In geometry, a homothetic center (also called a center of similarity or a center of similitude) is a point from which at least two geometrically similar figures can be seen as a dilation/contraction of one another. If the center is external, the two figures are directly similar to one another; their angles have the same rotational sense. If the center is internal, the two figures are scaled mirror images of one another; their angles have the opposite sense
 Quoting: observation

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you see i don`t see any explanation of vortice in that which makes sense
it takes the mind away from vortice and points to an outside something undefined causeing an inside effect that is defined

it`s gods will from the invisible unknowable god belief projected through number to look real

it seems

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whoa!
what a complexity of number !!!
feels like our mathematicians over the past few thousand years had orgasm after orgasm seeing number cause shapes to move
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For mathematicians this is an art form. Creating complex formulas are the greatest feats of accomplishment! lol
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Point reflection

In geometry, a point reflection or inversion in a point (or inversion through a point, or central inversion) is a type of isometry of Euclidean space. An object that is invariant under a point reflection is said to possess point symmetry; if it is invariant under point reflection through its center, it is said to possess central symmetry or to be centrally symmetric.

Point reflection can be classified as an affine transformation. Namely, it is an isometric involutive affine transformation, which has exactly one fixed point, which is the point of inversion. It is equivalent to a homothetic transformation with scale factor equal to -1. The point of inversion is also called homothetic center.
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Homothetic center

In geometry, a homothetic center (also called a center of similarity or a center of similitude) is a point from which at least two geometrically similar figures can be seen as a dilation/contraction of one another. If the center is external, the two figures are directly similar to one another; their angles have the same rotational sense. If the center is internal, the two figures are scaled mirror images of one another; their angles have the opposite sense
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

you see i don`t see any explanation of vortice in that which makes sense
it takes the mind away from vortice and points to an outside something undefined causeing an inside effect that is defined

it`s gods will from the invisible unknowable god belief projected through number to look real

it seems
 Quoting: aether


and it does look real until you know why it is not real because it models a real effect
so it looks true
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Point reflection

In geometry, a point reflection or inversion in a point (or inversion through a point, or central inversion) is a type of isometry of Euclidean space. An object that is invariant under a point reflection is said to possess point symmetry; if it is invariant under point reflection through its center, it is said to possess central symmetry or to be centrally symmetric.

Point reflection can be classified as an affine transformation. Namely, it is an isometric involutive affine transformation, which has exactly one fixed point, which is the point of inversion. It is equivalent to a homothetic transformation with scale factor equal to -1. The point of inversion is also called homothetic center.
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Homothetic center

In geometry, a homothetic center (also called a center of similarity or a center of similitude) is a point from which at least two geometrically similar figures can be seen as a dilation/contraction of one another. If the center is external, the two figures are directly similar to one another; their angles have the same rotational sense. If the center is internal, the two figures are scaled mirror images of one another; their angles have the opposite sense
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

you see i don`t see any explanation of vortice in that which makes sense
it takes the mind away from vortice and points to an outside something undefined causeing an inside effect that is defined

it`s gods will from the invisible unknowable god belief projected through number to look real

it seems
 Quoting: aether


and it does look real until you know why it is not real because it models a real effect
so it looks true

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Bingo.
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Spherical geometry

Spherical geometry is the geometry of the two-dimensional surface of a sphere. It is an example of a geometry which is not Euclidean. Two practical applications of the principles of spherical geometry are to navigation and astronomy.

Muslims, according to Carra de Vaux, were "unquestionably the inventors of plane and spherical geometry, which did not, strictly speaking, exist among the Greeks". The book of unknown arcs of a sphere written by Islamic mathematician Al-Jayyani is considered to be the first treatise on spherical trigonometry. The book contains formulae for right-handed triangles, the general law of sines, and the solution of a spherical triangle by means of the polar triangle.

The book On Triangles by Regiomontanus, written around 1463, is the first pure trigonometrical work in Europe. However, Gerolamo Cardano noted a century later that much of the material there on spherical trigonometry was taken from the twelfth-century work of the Spanish Islamic scholar Jabir ibn Aflah
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

the tricky part for our faithful is this , what makes a sphere

our faithful believed spherical geometry only existed because euclidean space was inside whatever it was that was spherical to measure

In mathematics, a careful distinction is made between the sphere (a two-dimensional surface embedded in three-dimensional Euclidean space) and the ball (the interior of the three-dimensional sphere).
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

and the faithful believe a sphere exists because the space inside the sphere that provides the finished shape of the sphere is like this:

Euclidean space

In mathematics, Euclidean space is the Euclidean plane and three-dimensional space of Euclidean geometry, as well as the generalizations of these notions to higher dimensions. The term “Euclidean” distinguishes these spaces from the curved spaces of non-Euclidean geometry and Einstein's general theory of relativity, and is named for the Greek mathematician Euclid of Alexandria.
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

you will notice there is no vortice designed into euclidean space alien03
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Instead of a place of inversion on the sphere (torus), they stopped at the sphere. Without the possibility of inversion, the sphere becomes recognized as a closed system.

There is no vortice, because there is no inversion.
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what about a radiation sheild generator + a over sheild!

Small boxes that end up having the first feild to pass throught it and transform that energy into making a second layer in the sheild allowing the second layer to close the 2 biggest weak spots of the sheilds! a Torus sheild generator! AKA: Fusion reactor. cause a very strong sheild with very effective regenerative speed! However the sheild is not equal and force you to build a ship around the generator which makes it have a terrible weak spot but yet the most powerful source of energy generation you can come with!


Thorium Reactors allows you to have a sheild at least at 60% efficiency of a fusion ractor without the torus shape problem for the sheild! however thorium reactors tend to be avoided due to thier high risk factors! Yes having your ship shields turning in a big ball of gaz your crew and ship end up being part of is why captains avoid thorium reactors! not worth the risk according the them!

If you do have the expertise however it is a nice reactor.
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your true self lies somewhere between your heart and your consciousness. It is called the heart consciousness,which is the creator, which is you!
The heart create the emotions and our mind evoke its purpose, from which we dream the life we live in order to imagine the nature of reality and finally remember love!

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and that has been our "problem" for over 5000 years
we are modeling something that is real so when we have a model of it that seems on paper to explain reality is it easy to believe what it says on the piece of paper because it explains what is being experienced in reality 24/7 and if we are told it`s true we tend to believe it because the effects that we feel are real so to believe an explanation of those effects is natural to desire

the good news is in our 21st century the only pieces of paper we ever again need to believe are those with explanations replicated in material reality that provide physical evidence of being accurate
including the location and structure of that which is labeled god rockon
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and we must remember it is not that euclidean geometry , spherical geometry etc. are not real, they are
the point is where do they become what they become in the sequence of becoming within all things and what motivated force forms them to become so

this is where we have gone, the cause of cause and it`s singular effect

all geometry forms afterwards because it is forced to form that ways

this was a emotional barrier whom many consider impossible to experience
and
i am sure today many still feel the same
would prefer never to know

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and we must remember it is not that euclidean geometry , spherical geometry etc. are not real, they are
the point is where do they become what they become in the sequence of becoming within all things and what motivated force forms them to become so

this is where we have gone, the cause of cause and it`s singular effect

all geometry forms afterwards because it is forced to form that ways

this was a emotional barrier whom many consider impossible to experience
and
i am sure today many still feel the same
would prefer never to know

 Quoting: aether


And that is a shame. We are humans, incredible beings, and to prefer never to know should not exist for us. oh well...

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Came across this. In Euclidean space, they call the 'place' of inversion: Point Reflection. When you go to the link, you will see the vortice.

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In geometry, a point reflection or inversion in a point (or inversion through a point, or central inversion) is a type of isometry of Euclidean space. An object that is invariant under a point reflection is said to possess point symmetry; if it is invariant under point reflection through its center, it is said to possess central symmetry or to be centrally symmetric.

Point reflection can be classified as an affine transformation. Namely, it is an isometric involutive affine transformation, which has exactly one fixed point, which is the point of inversion. It is equivalent to a homothetic transformation with scale factor equal to -1. The point of inversion is also called homothetic center.
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 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


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and we must remember it is not that euclidean geometry , spherical geometry etc. are not real, they are
the point is where do they become what they become in the sequence of becoming within all things and what motivated force forms them to become so

this is where we have gone, the cause of cause and it`s singular effect

all geometry forms afterwards because it is forced to form that ways

this was a emotional barrier whom many consider impossible to experience
and
i am sure today many still feel the same
would prefer never to know

 Quoting: aether


And that is a shame. We are humans, incredible beings, and to prefer never to know should not exist for us. oh well...
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


Movement without(outside fixed variables) causes pain. It also resets the relational function of time and inversely the flow of data to subject.

Without a model or mode of behaviour to control flow we have 'artists' accessing these states without a clue how to turn them off or on outside of pharmaceutical inducement.

On demand culture has definitely risen to the detriment of common sense.

And yes, the forms are the precepts of conciousness and are base (programming) archetypes of visual language.
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to a degree the concept of our global information era, designed in our minds of our military in our late 60`s and early 70`s, was the result of their being able to accurately predict the discoveries our "civilian" institutions would discover and the consequences of those discoveries upon the emotional state of our religions
it was not hard for our military with tesla and others information and 20 + years of testing the information outside of our magnetosphere to prove it true

so the concept is authorize the construction and application of a globalizes instant information era whist our civilian institutions "discover" by experiment what was known they must discover
by providing a real time global information structure civilian discoveries are eventually forced into the public domain closer and closer to the time of their discovery
also because the information structure is global all civilian institutional discoveries from all baseline beliefs are funneled into the same information transmitter to all people utilizing the global system
because the ultimate discoveries all civilian institutions are know before discovery their collective effect on earths population can be quite accurately assessed conditioned by how these discoveries are presented in the first place
and the good thing about a global information system is that it only functions (presents) one way
so the overall effect over linear time is all people will begin to collectively see the same consequences (join the dots) , no matter which belief they possess at the time they see and begin to join the dots

the model predicts an organic belief arising from people all over the globe whom believe correctly they got there themselves thus know for themselves

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