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aether (OP) User ID: 51321280 United Kingdom 12/10/2013 04:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | with that /z\ in mind we are given this: Speed of gravity The speed of gravitational waves in the general theory of relativity is equal to the speed of light in vacuum, c. Within the theory of special relativity, the constant c is not exclusively about light; instead it is the highest possible speed for any physical interaction in nature. Formally, c is a conversion factor for changing the unit of time to the unit of space. This makes it the only speed which does not depend either on the motion of an observer or a source of light and/or gravity. Thus, the speed of "light" is also the speed of gravitational waves and any other massless particle. Quoting: observation[link to en.wikipedia.org] that is before we get to the tricky topic of instant Last Edited by aether on 12/10/2013 04:57 PM |
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aether (OP) User ID: 51321280 United Kingdom 12/10/2013 05:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | with that /z\ in mind we are given this: Quoting: aether Speed of gravity The speed of gravitational waves in the general theory of relativity is equal to the speed of light in vacuum, c. Within the theory of special relativity, the constant c is not exclusively about light; instead it is the highest possible speed for any physical interaction in nature. Formally, c is a conversion factor for changing the unit of time to the unit of space. This makes it the only speed which does not depend either on the motion of an observer or a source of light and/or gravity. Thus, the speed of "light" is also the speed of gravitational waves and any other massless particle. Quoting: observation[link to en.wikipedia.org] that is before we get to the tricky topic of instant so, we no longer pretend all is known , we instead look forward to discovering what is unknown in the certainty that what we discover is beneficial to our spiritual and material well being and we remember , being normal people it is our money (tax) and efforts (work) keeping our societies functioning that is both paying for and providing the lifestyle for our "initiates" to show us what our efforts discover Last Edited by aether on 12/10/2013 05:05 PM |
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aether (OP) User ID: 51321280 United Kingdom 12/10/2013 06:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There’s a 1,200-year-old Phone in the Smithsonian Collections .............The gourd-and-twine device, created 1,200 to 1,400 years ago, remains tantalizingly functional—and too fragile to test out. “This is unique,” NMAI curator Ramiro Matos, an anthropologist and archaeologist who specializes in the study of the central Andes, tells me. “Only one was ever discovered. It comes from the consciousness of an indigenous society with no written language.”...... Quoting: observation[link to www.smithsonianmag.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 45211244 United States 12/10/2013 06:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OK, if light is electromagnetic radiation, then the reason for fluctuation of the 'constant' of speed of light is changes in our electromagnetic environment. It would be fascinating to see the difference between, say, 1972 as Rupert mentions, and now, knowing that the heliosphere has entered a much more highly magnetic interstellar environment. That would give us clues as to whether it is a localized event within the solar system and changes of light by sol, or is a more pervasive shift because of environment in interstellar space. Too bad the Voyagers cannot test for the speed of light, lol. Imagine the type of data conclusions we could get if that were possible, with the Voyagers being so different in area of exiting the heliosheath. I am imagining that it literally all comes down to mathematics. If there is fluctuation, then mathematics doesn't work as the solution, as things become much too complex and unknown. So, they keep it 'averaged' and constant because they need it to prove their formulas, hence prove their theories via mathematics. Which is why they ignore the alpha constant that changes, the decay rate of carbon that changes, the speed of light that changes, etc. Imagine what that would do to one of their Holy Grails, the Laws of Thermodynamics. They would realize that the very Laws themselves were susceptible to change, which would nullify their classification of constants being Law. |
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aether (OP) User ID: 51321280 United Kingdom 12/10/2013 07:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 15:35 or so, I was thinking those particles that change when observed do the same thing and are the same. Like a mind surrounding the particle not actually in it. exactly, the imagination of our initiates can not experience our non material environment because to our initiates , there is no environment to feel (observe/measure) In philosophy, the theory of materialism holds that all things are composed of material, and all phenomena (including consciousness) are the result of material interactions, that things are built not found as in the historically important but scientifically unimportant physicalism Quoting: observationand just like consciousness our initiates believe all occurs inside our material structure (head) thus distant feeling (telepathy) , as example , cannot be true because all is contained inside our material body (head) thus 2 people can never feel each other except by physical contact this is applied to all they observe thus they observe 2 things over distance, obviously feeling each other simultaneously, quicker than light, the fastest lawful velocity, can reach between them and no one knows what to say about it thus they hide it Last Edited by aether on 12/10/2013 07:27 PM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 11591337 United States 12/10/2013 07:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 15:35 or so, I was thinking those particles that change when observed do the same thing and are the same. Like a mind surrounding the particle not actually in it. exactly, the imagination of our initiates can not experience our non material environment because to our initiates , there is no environment to feel (observe/measure) In philosophy, the theory of materialism holds that all things are composed of material, and all phenomena (including consciousness) are the result of material interactions, that things are built not found as in the historically important but scientifically unimportant physicalism Quoting: observationand just like consciousness our initiates believe all occurs inside our material structure (head) thus distant feeling (telepathy) , as example , cannot be true because all is contained inside our material body (head) thus 2 people can never feel each other except by physical contact this is applied to all they observe thus they observe 2 things over distance, obviously feeling each other simultaneously, quicker than light, the fastest lawful velocity, can reach between them and no one knows what to say about it thus they hide it So is it related to auras and making the aura as big as possible or is that totally different compared to the mind? Like is the mind as big/vast as non material so can't be measured? |
aether (OP) User ID: 51321280 United Kingdom 12/10/2013 07:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So is it related to auras and making the aura as big as possible or is that totally different compared to the mind? Like is the mind as big/vast as non material so can't be measured? i don`t know what to do with the word mind because it possess no meaning i can imagine [link to en.wikipedia.org] |
aether (OP) User ID: 51321280 United Kingdom 12/10/2013 08:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So is it related to auras and making the aura as big as possible or is that totally different compared to the mind? Like is the mind as big/vast as non material so can't be measured? i don`t know what to do with the word mind because it possess no meaning i can imagine [link to en.wikipedia.org] and it prompts a headache sensation if i try to imagine it |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 39902384 Canada 12/10/2013 08:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OK, if light is electromagnetic radiation, then the reason for fluctuation of the 'constant' of speed of light is changes in our electromagnetic environment. It would be fascinating to see the difference between, say, 1972 as Rupert mentions, and now, knowing that the heliosphere has entered a much more highly magnetic interstellar environment. That would give us clues as to whether it is a localized event within the solar system and changes of light by sol, or is a more pervasive shift because of environment in interstellar space. Too bad the Voyagers cannot test for the speed of light, lol. Imagine the type of data conclusions we could get if that were possible, with the Voyagers being so different in area of exiting the heliosheath. I am imagining that it literally all comes down to mathematics. If there is fluctuation, then mathematics doesn't work as the solution, as things become much too complex and unknown. So, they keep it 'averaged' and constant because they need it to prove their formulas, hence prove their theories via mathematics. Which is why they ignore the alpha constant that changes, the decay rate of carbon that changes, the speed of light that changes, etc. Imagine what that would do to one of their Holy Grails, the Laws of Thermodynamics. They would realize that the very Laws themselves were susceptible to change, which would nullify their classification of constants being Law. Think influences of heat and pressure on The microscale. Greater reactivity within denser fields over less distance. Whilst interstellar distance effects are diminished. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 39902384 Canada 12/10/2013 08:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So is it related to auras and making the aura as big as possible or is that totally different compared to the mind? Like is the mind as big/vast as non material so can't be measured? i don`t know what to do with the word mind because it possess no meaning i can imagine [link to en.wikipedia.org] and it prompts a headache sensation if i try to imagine it Do you mean mind as a network of associative reactive connections based on inferred or biased memory or do you mean conciousness? aurora as a charged transference of locale? I like to make my head hurt until it feels as if my nose and brow are warping or seeking true north. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11591337 United States 12/10/2013 08:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So is it related to auras and making the aura as big as possible or is that totally different compared to the mind? Like is the mind as big/vast as non material so can't be measured? i don`t know what to do with the word mind because it possess no meaning i can imagine [link to en.wikipedia.org] and it prompts a headache sensation if i try to imagine it Found this quote, but seems mental power is a product of the mind. A knowledge of the existence of something we cannot penetrate, of the manifestations of the profoundest reason and the most radiant beauty - it is this knowledge and this emotion that constitute the truly religious attitude; in this sense, and in this alone, I am a deeply religious man. Quoting: Albert Einsteineinstein possessed the wrong belief to discover his belief was to prohibit discovery and to that end he did his best to maintain mankind's inability to discover the politics of god “The gift of mental power comes from God, Divine Being, and if we concetrate our minds on that truth, we become in tune with this great power. Quoting: Nikola TeslaMy Mother had taught me to seek all truth in the Bible.” tesla possessed a different belief of what mankind discovers |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11591337 United States 12/10/2013 08:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I guess instead of the word mind, awareness? [link to en.wikipedia.org] Awareness is the state or ability to perceive, to feel, or to be conscious of events, objects, or sensory patterns. In this level of consciousness, sense data can be confirmed by an observer without necessarily implying understanding. More broadly, it is the state or quality of being aware of something. In biological psychology, awareness is defined as a human's or an animal's perception and cognitive reaction to a condition or event. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11591337 United States 12/10/2013 08:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So is it related to auras and making the aura as big as possible or is that totally different compared to the mind? Like is the mind as big/vast as non material so can't be measured? i don`t know what to do with the word mind because it possess no meaning i can imagine [link to en.wikipedia.org] and it prompts a headache sensation if i try to imagine it So the mind is an illusion? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 39902384 Canada 12/10/2013 09:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So is it related to auras and making the aura as big as possible or is that totally different compared to the mind? Like is the mind as big/vast as non material so can't be measured? i don`t know what to do with the word mind because it possess no meaning i can imagine [link to en.wikipedia.org] and it prompts a headache sensation if i try to imagine it So the mind is an illusion? No, it is a fixed point which is transitory. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11591337 United States 12/10/2013 09:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: aether i don`t know what to do with the word mind because it possess no meaning i can imagine [link to en.wikipedia.org] and it prompts a headache sensation if i try to imagine it So the mind is an illusion? No, it is a fixed point which is transitory. Like time? Fixed point and transitory sounds like a paradox, lol |
just a dude User ID: 44417604 United States 12/10/2013 09:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I see. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51357528 Perhaps, instead of embarking on a three thousand page ego fuelled goose chase... why didnt you jut fucking ask... YOU almot started an "Oh an Did I Mention Al" War Oh thats right I got the win win and you..alone got the dealwith it bit. Party is over man This is head noie and chaff Not Wildcattaire sauve poise and finesse... I use words sparingly You seem to like to lath them tohether like umm...shit... what have you told in 3000 pages that wasnt discused in Hills and Valleys? ROFFLES Orrite Axis mundi..was a stone disc on a slight angle wet and dry cycle... DO I MAKE MY SELF FUCKING CLEAR!? I BUILT THE FUVKER Good one, roused a chuckle here. Half way down I was thinking of a zodiac top spinning and of fractional derivatives and of the potentially infinite intermediate spins between fermions and bosons. So popes spin in zodiac tile-lined tubs? Only the popes' nose ;) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 39902384 Canada 12/10/2013 09:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus Like time? Fixed point and transitory sounds like a paradox, lol Time is the vehicle we can choose to sit and watch the world go by. like the positron it is passive in action. |
just a dude User ID: 44417604 United States 12/10/2013 09:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Fancypantz Time is the vehicle we can choose to sit and watch the world go by. like the positron it is passive in action. Like a watch ratchet, notching to and fro Reactive spin halfed or naught or not. Building arches at set pace, from a knee-jerk shin Piercing the firmament and smacking a chin. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 39902384 Canada 12/10/2013 09:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Time is the vehicle we can choose to sit and watch the world go by. like the positron it is passive in action. Like a watch ratchet, notching to and fro Reactive spin halfed or naught or not. Building arches at set pace, from a knee-jerk shin Piercing the firmament and smacking a chin. Exactly, free to be something or nothing at all dependent on choice or placement |
fancy User ID: 11591337 United States 12/10/2013 09:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Looks like the mind hes the ability to create illusions. okay so the impression was red flame and we see names becomes mixed Quoting: aether this is the right name One of Ge Xuan's literary contributions was "The Classic of Purity," in which he quoted, "The Inner Spirit of people loves purity, but the mind of people is often rebellious". (This book was published in a poetic paraphrase by Aleister Crowley (1875-1947), the infamous British magician, who claimed to be the reincarnation of "Ko Yuen" as he transliterated it, following Legge.) The reason why people do not possess the competence to achieve this, is because their minds are not clear and their desires are unrestrained 6  . Ge Xuan claimed that desires are what bind individuals to become selfish and dishonest. Furthermore, he also quoted, that our minds create illusions which make us suffer throughout life. Ge Xuan stated that if we want to gain control of ourselves, we must first control our wandering mind. Ge Xuan, was recognized as the true Supreme Immortal when his scripts were passed onto his great-nephew Ge Hong. Although Ge Hong began composing the Ling-Pao Ching ("Classic of the Sacred Jewel") about 379 CE, he claimed that they had been first revealed to his own ancestor, Ge Xuan (Robinet (1997), p. 80). Ge Xuan wrote a book in which his notions are uncovered. Furthermore, in Daoism, Ge Xuan is called "the Perfect Sovereign and Protector" in Correspondence with the eternal Dao (Bokenkamp (2008), p. 444). In addition, common individuals address him as the "Immortal Elder Ge of the Supreme Ultimate." Ge Hong alleged the Ling-Pao Ching ("Classic of the Sacred Jewel") at about 379 CE. Ge Xuan's scripts were given the recognition because of his nephew's success in writing. Quoting: observationThe Immortal Lord Ge Xuan received texts from Zuo Yuanfang, who himself received them from a divine man that came to him while he was devoting himself to the practices of the purification of thought (Jingsi) on Mount Tianzhu.[5] Then Ge Xuan passed "The Book of The Nine Elixirs" on to his great-nephew Ge Hong. The Lingbao account for Ge Xuan endured in which an anonymous preface written during the Six Dynasties' period to the Heshang Gong annotated version of the Dao De Jing, the "Preface and Secret Instructions" are attributed to him.[6] According to the Biography of Transcendent Duke Ge of the Great Ultimate, composed by Zhu Chuo in 1377 stated that almost all revealed literature in early Taoism might be retraced to Ge Xuan 5 . However, Ge Xuan was thought to become immortal after his body had vanished. [link to en.wikipedia.org] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 45211244 United States 12/10/2013 10:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: aether i don`t know what to do with the word mind because it possess no meaning i can imagine [link to en.wikipedia.org] and it prompts a headache sensation if i try to imagine it So the mind is an illusion? No, it is a fixed point which is transitory. the background to his seeing/thinking is that as all is manifested and sustained via input from aether...the rotating magnetic field....what effects we make and observer are signals moving from point to point within the aether field within the micro up scale....nothing moves in the traditional sense....this is the origin of all all frozen light..... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 865798 -aether If instead of thinking of anything as been seperate, You instead focus Your mind on the universe beinga solid, then try and comprehend that every finite point in that solid can become anything as it re-orientates subject to the magnetic field it is subjected to. Then You can view the tornado differently as a direct result of the magnetic loops re-orientating the smallest particles to switch in the magnetic fields orientation. The more complex and much more compressed particles and larger resist more the switching but are still trying to switch in the magnetic fields direction. Thus the articles that are so called "PICKED UP" by the tornado are in fact trying to become the tornado and are not seperate - as is nothing - all is ONE. This is difficult to verbalise as it is not part of our normal thinking. We view all as seperate, but if I was stood near You, and you moved aside and I moved to where You had just been, then I would be composed in the same stuff that You had been. I would not be moving though, I would switch every finite particle as I encountered it, thus all movement is switching limited, including light and all signals. |