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10.15 onwards
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with that /z\ in mind we are given this:

Speed of gravity

The speed of gravitational waves in the general theory of relativity is equal to the speed of light in vacuum, c. Within the theory of special relativity, the constant c is not exclusively about light; instead it is the highest possible speed for any physical interaction in nature. Formally, c is a conversion factor for changing the unit of time to the unit of space. This makes it the only speed which does not depend either on the motion of an observer or a source of light and/or gravity. Thus, the speed of "light" is also the speed of gravitational waves and any other massless particle.
 Quoting: observation

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that is before we get to the tricky topic of instant

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I'll have to watch that vid.
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hi flaming sword what do you want
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Recognition and attention.
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oooooooohhh biatch....

cruise


Wait for the tri tone 3 fender amp paradox ya fucking newt
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You are such a weirdo, you should work on your people skills, you suck huge amounts of ass

Good night aether and all.
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with that /z\ in mind we are given this:

Speed of gravity

The speed of gravitational waves in the general theory of relativity is equal to the speed of light in vacuum, c. Within the theory of special relativity, the constant c is not exclusively about light; instead it is the highest possible speed for any physical interaction in nature. Formally, c is a conversion factor for changing the unit of time to the unit of space. This makes it the only speed which does not depend either on the motion of an observer or a source of light and/or gravity. Thus, the speed of "light" is also the speed of gravitational waves and any other massless particle.
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]


that is before we get to the tricky topic of instant
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so, we no longer pretend all is known , we instead look forward to discovering what is unknown in the certainty that what we discover is beneficial to our spiritual and material well being and we remember , being normal people it is our money (tax) and efforts (work) keeping our societies functioning that is both paying for and providing the lifestyle for our "initiates" to show us what our efforts discover

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hi flaming sword what do you want
 Quoting: aether


Recognition and attention.
 Quoting: <<orbs>>


oooooooohhh biatch....

cruise


Wait for the tri tone 3 fender amp paradox ya fucking newt
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51357528


You are such a weirdo, you should work on your people skills, you suck huge amounts of ass

Good night aether and all.
 Quoting: <<orbs>>


nn
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There’s a 1,200-year-old Phone in the Smithsonian Collections

.............The gourd-and-twine device, created 1,200 to 1,400 years ago, remains tantalizingly functional—and too fragile to test out. “This is unique,” NMAI curator Ramiro Matos, an anthropologist and archaeologist who specializes in the study of the central Andes, tells me. “Only one was ever discovered. It comes from the consciousness of an indigenous society with no written language.”......
 Quoting: observation

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10.15 onwards
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OK, if light is electromagnetic radiation, then the reason for fluctuation of the 'constant' of speed of light is changes in our electromagnetic environment.

It would be fascinating to see the difference between, say, 1972 as Rupert mentions, and now, knowing that the heliosphere has entered a much more highly magnetic interstellar environment.

That would give us clues as to whether it is a localized event within the solar system and changes of light by sol, or is a more pervasive shift because of environment in interstellar space.

Too bad the Voyagers cannot test for the speed of light, lol. Imagine the type of data conclusions we could get if that were possible, with the Voyagers being so different in area of exiting the heliosheath.

I am imagining that it literally all comes down to mathematics. If there is fluctuation, then mathematics doesn't work as the solution, as things become much too complex and unknown. So, they keep it 'averaged' and constant because they need it to prove their formulas, hence prove their theories via mathematics.

Which is why they ignore the alpha constant that changes, the decay rate of carbon that changes, the speed of light that changes, etc.

Imagine what that would do to one of their Holy Grails, the Laws of Thermodynamics. They would realize that the very Laws themselves were susceptible to change, which would nullify their classification of constants being Law.
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10.15 onwards
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15:35 or so, I was thinking those particles that change when observed do the same thing and are the same. Like a mind surrounding the particle not actually in it.1dunno1
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10.15 onwards
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15:35 or so, I was thinking those particles that change when observed do the same thing and are the same. Like a mind surrounding the particle not actually in it.1dunno1
 Quoting: Fancypantz


exactly, the imagination of our initiates can not experience our non material environment because to our initiates , there is no environment to feel (observe/measure)

In philosophy, the theory of materialism holds that all things are composed of material, and all phenomena (including consciousness) are the result of material interactions, that things are built not found as in the historically important but scientifically unimportant physicalism
 Quoting: observation


and just like consciousness our initiates believe all occurs inside our material structure (head) thus distant feeling (telepathy) , as example , cannot be true because all is contained inside our material body (head) thus 2 people can never feel each other except by physical contact

this is applied to all they observe

thus they observe 2 things over distance, obviously feeling each other simultaneously, quicker than light, the fastest lawful velocity, can reach between them and no one knows what to say about it thus they hide it

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aether. what does initiates mean to you?
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aether. what does initiates mean to you?
 Quoting: Spin Nips


people willingly controlled by that which overrides their intuition
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10.15 onwards
 Quoting: aether


15:35 or so, I was thinking those particles that change when observed do the same thing and are the same. Like a mind surrounding the particle not actually in it.1dunno1
 Quoting: Fancypantz


exactly, the imagination of our initiates can not experience our non material environment because to our initiates , there is no environment to feel (observe/measure)

In philosophy, the theory of materialism holds that all things are composed of material, and all phenomena (including consciousness) are the result of material interactions, that things are built not found as in the historically important but scientifically unimportant physicalism
 Quoting: observation


and just like consciousness our initiates believe all occurs inside our material structure (head) thus distant feeling (telepathy) , as example , cannot be true because all is contained inside our material body (head) thus 2 people can never feel each other except by physical contact

this is applied to all they observe

thus they observe 2 things over distance, obviously feeling each other simultaneously, quicker than light, the fastest lawful velocity, can reach between them and no one knows what to say about it thus they hide it
 Quoting: aether


So is it related to auras and making the aura as big as possible or is that totally different compared to the mind? Like is the mind as big/vast as non material so can't be measured?
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So is it related to auras and making the aura as big as possible or is that totally different compared to the mind? Like is the mind as big/vast as non material so can't be measured?
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i don`t know what to do with the word mind because it possess no meaning i can imagine

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So is it related to auras and making the aura as big as possible or is that totally different compared to the mind? Like is the mind as big/vast as non material so can't be measured?
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i don`t know what to do with the word mind because it possess no meaning i can imagine

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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and it prompts a headache sensation if i try to imagine it
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OK, if light is electromagnetic radiation, then the reason for fluctuation of the 'constant' of speed of light is changes in our electromagnetic environment.

It would be fascinating to see the difference between, say, 1972 as Rupert mentions, and now, knowing that the heliosphere has entered a much more highly magnetic interstellar environment.

That would give us clues as to whether it is a localized event within the solar system and changes of light by sol, or is a more pervasive shift because of environment in interstellar space.

Too bad the Voyagers cannot test for the speed of light, lol. Imagine the type of data conclusions we could get if that were possible, with the Voyagers being so different in area of exiting the heliosheath.

I am imagining that it literally all comes down to mathematics. If there is fluctuation, then mathematics doesn't work as the solution, as things become much too complex and unknown. So, they keep it 'averaged' and constant because they need it to prove their formulas, hence prove their theories via mathematics.

Which is why they ignore the alpha constant that changes, the decay rate of carbon that changes, the speed of light that changes, etc.

Imagine what that would do to one of their Holy Grails, the Laws of Thermodynamics. They would realize that the very Laws themselves were susceptible to change, which would nullify their classification of constants being Law.
 Quoting: Spin Nips


Think influences of heat and pressure on The microscale. Greater reactivity within denser fields over less distance. Whilst interstellar distance effects are diminished.
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So is it related to auras and making the aura as big as possible or is that totally different compared to the mind? Like is the mind as big/vast as non material so can't be measured?
 Quoting: Fancypantz


i don`t know what to do with the word mind because it possess no meaning i can imagine

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: aether


and it prompts a headache sensation if i try to imagine it
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Do you mean mind as a network of associative reactive connections based on inferred or biased memory or do you mean conciousness?

aurora as a charged transference of locale?

I like to make my head hurt until it feels as if my nose and brow are warping or seeking true north.
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So is it related to auras and making the aura as big as possible or is that totally different compared to the mind? Like is the mind as big/vast as non material so can't be measured?
 Quoting: Fancypantz


i don`t know what to do with the word mind because it possess no meaning i can imagine

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: aether


and it prompts a headache sensation if i try to imagine it
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Found this quote, but seems mental power is a product of the mind.

A knowledge of the existence of something we cannot penetrate, of the manifestations of the profoundest reason and the most radiant beauty - it is this knowledge and this emotion that constitute the truly religious attitude; in this sense, and in this alone, I am a deeply religious man.
 Quoting: Albert Einstein


einstein possessed the wrong belief to discover
his belief was to prohibit discovery
and to that end
he did his best to maintain mankind's inability to discover

the politics of god
 Quoting: aether


“The gift of mental power comes from God, Divine Being, and if we concetrate our minds on that truth, we become in tune with this great power.
My Mother had taught me to seek all truth in the Bible.”
 Quoting: Nikola Tesla


tesla possessed a different belief of what mankind discovers
 Quoting: aether
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I guess instead of the word mind, awareness?

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Awareness is the state or ability to perceive, to feel, or to be conscious of events, objects, or sensory patterns. In this level of consciousness, sense data can be confirmed by an observer without necessarily implying understanding. More broadly, it is the state or quality of being aware of something. In biological psychology, awareness is defined as a human's or an animal's perception and cognitive reaction to a condition or event.
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So is it related to auras and making the aura as big as possible or is that totally different compared to the mind? Like is the mind as big/vast as non material so can't be measured?
 Quoting: Fancypantz


i don`t know what to do with the word mind because it possess no meaning i can imagine

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: aether


and it prompts a headache sensation if i try to imagine it
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So the mind is an illusion?
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So is it related to auras and making the aura as big as possible or is that totally different compared to the mind? Like is the mind as big/vast as non material so can't be measured?
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i don`t know what to do with the word mind because it possess no meaning i can imagine

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: aether


and it prompts a headache sensation if i try to imagine it
 Quoting: aether


So the mind is an illusion?
 Quoting: Fancypantz


No, it is a fixed point which is transitory.
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i don`t know what to do with the word mind because it possess no meaning i can imagine

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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and it prompts a headache sensation if i try to imagine it
 Quoting: aether


So the mind is an illusion?
 Quoting: Fancypantz


No, it is a fixed point which is transitory.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


Like time? Fixed point and transitory sounds like a paradox, lol
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I see.


Perhaps, instead of embarking on a three thousand page ego fuelled goose chase...


why didnt you jut fucking ask...

YOU almot started an "Oh an Did I Mention Al" War



Oh thats right

I got the win win and you..alone got the dealwith it bit.



Party is over man

This is head noie and chaff

Not Wildcattaire sauve poise and finesse...

I use words sparingly


You seem to like to lath them tohether like umm...shit...

what have you told in 3000 pages that wasnt discused in Hills and Valleys?



ROFFLES


Orrite

Axis mundi..was a stone disc on a slight angle wet and dry cycle...

DO I MAKE MY SELF FUCKING CLEAR!?


I BUILT THE FUVKER
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Good one, roused a chuckle here.

Half way down I was thinking of a zodiac top spinning and of fractional derivatives and of the potentially infinite intermediate spins between fermions and bosons.

So popes spin in zodiac tile-lined tubs?

Only the popes' nose ;)
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and it prompts a headache sensation if i try to imagine it
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So the mind is an illusion?
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No, it is a fixed point which is transitory.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


Like time? Fixed point and transitory sounds like a paradox, lol
 Quoting: Fancypantz


Time is the vehicle we can choose to sit and watch the world go by. like the positron it is passive in action.
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So the mind is an illusion?
 Quoting: Fancypantz


No, it is a fixed point which is transitory.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


Like time? Fixed point and transitory sounds like a paradox, lol
 Quoting: Fancypantz


Time is the vehicle we can choose to sit and watch the world go by. like the positron it is passive in action.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


Like a watch ratchet, notching to and fro
Reactive spin halfed or naught or not.

Building arches at set pace, from a knee-jerk shin
Piercing the firmament and smacking a chin.
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No, it is a fixed point which is transitory.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


Like time? Fixed point and transitory sounds like a paradox, lol
 Quoting: Fancypantz


Time is the vehicle we can choose to sit and watch the world go by. like the positron it is passive in action.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


Like a watch ratchet, notching to and fro
Reactive spin halfed or naught or not.

Building arches at set pace, from a knee-jerk shin
Piercing the firmament and smacking a chin.
 Quoting: just a dude


Exactly, free to be something or nothing at all dependent on choice or placement
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Looks like the mind hes the ability to create illusions.
okay so the impression was red flame and we see names becomes mixed

this is the right name

One of Ge Xuan's literary contributions was "The Classic of Purity," in which he quoted, "The Inner Spirit of people loves purity, but the mind of people is often rebellious". (This book was published in a poetic paraphrase by Aleister Crowley (1875-1947), the infamous British magician, who claimed to be the reincarnation of "Ko Yuen" as he transliterated it, following Legge.) The reason why people do not possess the competence to achieve this, is because their minds are not clear and their desires are unrestrained 6&#8201; . Ge Xuan claimed that desires are what bind individuals to become selfish and dishonest. Furthermore, he also quoted, that our minds create illusions which make us suffer throughout life. Ge Xuan stated that if we want to gain control of ourselves, we must first control our wandering mind. Ge Xuan, was recognized as the true Supreme Immortal when his scripts were passed onto his great-nephew Ge Hong. Although Ge Hong began composing the Ling-Pao Ching ("Classic of the Sacred Jewel") about 379 CE, he claimed that they had been first revealed to his own ancestor, Ge Xuan (Robinet (1997), p. 80). Ge Xuan wrote a book in which his notions are uncovered. Furthermore, in Daoism, Ge Xuan is called "the Perfect Sovereign and Protector" in Correspondence with the eternal Dao (Bokenkamp (2008), p. 444). In addition, common individuals address him as the "Immortal Elder Ge of the Supreme Ultimate." Ge Hong alleged the Ling-Pao Ching ("Classic of the Sacred Jewel") at about 379 CE. Ge Xuan's scripts were given the recognition because of his nephew's success in writing.

The Immortal Lord Ge Xuan received texts from Zuo Yuanfang, who himself received them from a divine man that came to him while he was devoting himself to the practices of the purification of thought (Jingsi) on Mount Tianzhu.[5] Then Ge Xuan passed "The Book of The Nine Elixirs" on to his great-nephew Ge Hong. The Lingbao account for Ge Xuan endured in which an anonymous preface written during the Six Dynasties' period to the Heshang Gong annotated version of the Dao De Jing, the "Preface and Secret Instructions" are attributed to him.[6] According to the Biography of Transcendent Duke Ge of the Great Ultimate, composed by Zhu Chuo in 1377 stated that almost all revealed literature in early Taoism might be retraced to Ge Xuan 5&#8201;. However, Ge Xuan was thought to become immortal after his body had vanished.
 Quoting: observation

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Envision a line so thin as to be nonexistant, but so wide it takes up the whole of creaTion. Connecting everything, but touching nothing .

When you see it, let me k now how it feels
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Envision a line so thin as to be nonexistant, but so wide it takes up the whole of creaTion. Connecting everything, but touching nothing .

When you see it, let me k now how it feels
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a rushing pinhole vortex wormhole kinda thing :)
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i don`t know what to do with the word mind because it possess no meaning i can imagine

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: aether


and it prompts a headache sensation if i try to imagine it
 Quoting: aether


So the mind is an illusion?
 Quoting: Fancypantz


No, it is a fixed point which is transitory.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


the background to his seeing/thinking is that as all is manifested and sustained via input from aether...the rotating magnetic field....what effects we make and observer are signals moving from point to point within the aether field within the micro up scale....nothing moves in the traditional sense....this is the origin of all all frozen light.....
-aether



If instead of thinking of anything as been seperate, You instead focus Your mind on the universe beinga solid, then try and comprehend that every finite point in that solid can become anything as it re-orientates subject to the magnetic field it is subjected to.

Then You can view the tornado differently as a direct result of the magnetic loops re-orientating the smallest particles to switch in the magnetic fields orientation.

The more complex and much more compressed particles and larger resist more the switching but are still trying to switch in the magnetic fields direction.

Thus the articles that are so called "PICKED UP" by the tornado are in fact trying to become the tornado and are not seperate - as is nothing - all is ONE.

This is difficult to verbalise as it is not part of our normal thinking. We view all as seperate, but if I was stood near You, and you moved aside and I moved to where You had just been, then I would be composed in the same stuff that You had been.

I would not be moving though, I would switch every finite particle as I encountered it, thus all movement is switching limited, including light and all signals.

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