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Anonymous Coward User ID: 39902384 Canada 05/31/2013 10:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Read WW Z. There's a good line or two about the need for the Lie known as hope. Quoting: Guac Du Mollay Interesting indeed.... I have been meaning to. I have read 'Zombie Survival Guide'. The need for abject detachment and the candle of hope is an interesting undercurrent. I have known many vets and as a child wandered the wards holding the hands of men shellshocked decades previous. It was my first experience with time travel. My family had access to an old mansion complex which was converted to Toronto's flagship waterway trail system. The main office was under the hospital and I was left to toddle about. Funny how odd that seems shadowed against todays world. Truly..... Reminds me a little of this [link to youtu.be] A battered Soul is a battered Soul either way I suppose. I can only hope with the Koreans waving nukes around like a toddler with a flamethrower that conscription doesn't rear its seven heads once more. The foot soldier is needed in policing and siege actions. The pantheon of vapor driven aerosolized weaponry alone renders defensive positioning multivaried tombs. The spectre of conventional war is only ever raised these days to drive the carte blanche of fear. |
Azeratel Axo User ID: 37789886 Canada 05/31/2013 10:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes. Quoting: Seer777 However, I figured I was pulling on them. When they desired me pulling them not... Simple as that. .... Wow. That is fortitude on your part. Honestly, it wouldn't have occurred to me that I could desire 'not to be pulled'. Indeed. I wasn't sure. And had no desire to impose. 'Telepathy' is weird like that. 'Knock, knock'...if you will. Interesting how many words contain the root of 'pathology'. Is any increase in our thought-load essentially a negative one? And if so.... is there such a thing as 'less wrong'? Less painful? I often equate 'love' to 'death'. But 'death' can be beautiful.... for example, the death of loneliness. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 39902384 Canada 05/31/2013 10:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes. Quoting: Seer777 However, I figured I was pulling on them. When they desired me pulling them not... Simple as that. .... Wow. That is fortitude on your part. Honestly, it wouldn't have occurred to me that I could desire 'not to be pulled'. Indeed. I wasn't sure. And had no desire to impose. 'Telepathy' is weird like that. 'Knock, knock'...if you will. Interesting how many words contain the root of 'pathology'. Is any increase in our thought-load essentially a negative one? And if so.... is there such a thing as 'less wrong'? Less painful? I often equate 'love' to 'death'. But 'death' can be beautiful.... for example, the death of loneliness. How about the death of chickens and the deep fried buffalo wing. That is beauty manifest in crispaliciousness. |
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Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 3018467 United States 05/31/2013 10:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes. Quoting: Seer777 However, I figured I was pulling on them. When they desired me pulling them not... Simple as that. .... Wow. That is fortitude on your part. Honestly, it wouldn't have occurred to me that I could desire 'not to be pulled'. Indeed. I wasn't sure. And had no desire to impose. 'Telepathy' is weird like that. 'Knock, knock'...if you will. Interesting how many words contain the root of 'pathology'. Is any increase in our thought-load essentially a negative one? And if so.... is there such a thing as 'less wrong'? Less painful? I often equate 'love' to 'death'. But 'death' can be beautiful.... for example, the death of loneliness. It was just how I was processing things at the time. Last Summer and Fall seem a millennium ago. I understand things differently now. As one does with time. Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
Azeratel Axo User ID: 37789886 Canada 05/31/2013 10:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How about the death of chickens and the deep fried buffalo wing. That is beauty manifest in crispaliciousness. Quoting: Guac Du Mollay What do you think of the 'artificial meat' (that is, essentially giant non-cancerous tumours/cubes grown in similarly giant petri-dishes wherein texture of the 'full animal' is mimicked) ...that seems to be coming down the pipeline? Would you eat it? I would. The only problem I see is an enhancement of militaristic anti-meat propaganda as the moral hook of 'killing animals' is no longer an issue ;) Last Edited by pi on 05/31/2013 10:47 PM |
Azeratel Axo User ID: 37789886 Canada 05/31/2013 10:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It was just how I was processing things at the time. Last Summer and Fall seem a millennium ago. Quoting: Seer777 I understand things differently now. As one does with time. Truly. That was the most intense time of my life. Still searching with all my might for an 'answer'. And sure enough, as soon as I got the 'answer' I was looking for, I realized that I live for the questions. [link to youtu.be] |
Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 3018467 United States 05/31/2013 10:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How about the death of chickens and the deep fried buffalo wing. That is beauty manifest in crispaliciousness. Quoting: Guac Du Mollay What do you think of the 'artificial meat' (that is, essentially giant non-cancerous tumours/cubes grown in similarly giant petri-dishes wherein texture of the 'full animal' is mimicked) ...that seems to be coming down the pipeline? Would you eat it? I would. The only problem I see is an enhancement of militaristic anti-meat propaganda as the moral hook of 'killing animals' is no longer an issue ;) It not really about killing animals. It about 'Mass Produced Meat'. And the consumption OF. Let's get it right... Just thought I would share... Quoting: Seer777 Thread: Americans Eat 1,083,333 Football Fields Worth Of Wings On Super Bowl Sunday Americans to Eat 1.23 Billion Chicken Wings Super Bowl Weekend Quoting: KoFFee_ Chicken wings have become a staple food of Super Bowl parties in the U.S., and demand for them on menus is now at an all-time high leading up to the second biggest eating day of the year – Super Bowl Sunday. Super Bowl weekend is unquestionably the biggest time of the year for wings. According to the National Chicken Council’s 2013 Wing Report, more than 1.23 billion wing portions will be consumed during Super Bowl weekend in 2013, as fans watch the San Francisco 49ers and the Baltimore Ravens battle for the Lombardi Trophy. To put that into perspective, if 1.23 billion wing segments were laid end to end, they would stretch from Candlestick Park in San Francisco to M&T Bank Stadium in Baltimore… 27 times. Super Bowl wing consumption is down about one percent, or 12.3 million wings, compared to last year’s numbers, but not because demand for them is declining. Quite the opposite, explains Bill Roenigk, chief economist and market analyst at the Washington, D.C.-based National Chicken Council. Read more here: [link to www.nationalchickencouncil.org] One gets 4 'hot wings' per one chicken. If these numbers are accurate then Americans will consume 300,000,000 dead chickens on a single day... Current population of people in America: 313,914,040 Just to put it in perspective. Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
Azeratel Axo User ID: 37789886 Canada 05/31/2013 11:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How about the death of chickens and the deep fried buffalo wing. That is beauty manifest in crispaliciousness. Quoting: Guac Du Mollay What do you think of the 'artificial meat' (that is, essentially giant non-cancerous tumours/cubes grown in similarly giant petri-dishes wherein texture of the 'full animal' is mimicked) ...that seems to be coming down the pipeline? Would you eat it? I would. The only problem I see is an enhancement of militaristic anti-meat propaganda as the moral hook of 'killing animals' is no longer an issue ;) It not really about killing animals. It about 'Mass Produced Meat'. And the consumption OF. Let's get it right... Really? My 'hook' and any guilt that I feel stems from Factory Farming. Indeed. Remove the brain from the meat, and it flies under my moral radar. So.... imagine a 'Shiva-style' mass of chicken wings attached to only the part of the body required to keep them nourished. Or indeed, simply growing chicken wings in vats of cheap agar-like feeding material, with all the nutrients chickens would normally consume. Waste is an issue but not as much as it would conceivably be with a real-live chicken running about. Jolt the wings with electricity to ensure they are 'exercised'; and harvest upon completion. Yay, or nay, morally? EDIT Was your original post referring to suffering, or environmental damage? Either way.... Last Edited by pi on 05/31/2013 11:03 PM |
Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 3018467 United States 05/31/2013 11:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It was just how I was processing things at the time. Last Summer and Fall seem a millennium ago. Quoting: Seer777 I understand things differently now. As one does with time. Truly. That was the most intense time of my life. Still searching with all my might for an 'answer'. And sure enough, as soon as I got the 'answer' I was looking for, I realized that I live for the questions. Yes. Mine was a bit earlier...but certainly then as well. I have come to a bit of a crossroads with 'that'. Many of the questions I had, have been answered. I now see it, as well as I can, for it was and is. My Nature will not alter however. Perhaps that is what aether meant earlier about the 1-7 age. We reflect from there...and discard that which does not fit. However difficult it may be at the time... Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 3018467 United States 05/31/2013 11:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | EDIT Quoting: Azeratel Axo Was your original post referring to suffering, or environmental damage? Either way.... Well... [link to www.youtube.com] Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
aether (OP) User ID: 32860123 United Kingdom 05/31/2013 11:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It was just how I was processing things at the time. Last Summer and Fall seem a millennium ago. Quoting: Seer777 I understand things differently now. As one does with time. Truly. That was the most intense time of my life. Still searching with all my might for an 'answer'. And sure enough, as soon as I got the 'answer' I was looking for, I realized that I live for the questions. Yes. Mine was a bit earlier...but certainly then as well. I have come to a bit of a crossroads with 'that'. Many of the questions I had, have been answered. I now see it, as well as I can, for it was and is. My Nature will not alter however. Perhaps that is what aether meant earlier about the 1-7 age. We reflect from there...and discard that which does not fit. However difficult it may be at the time... yes and no what we received age 1 to 7 is what other people and our society gave us my personal opinion is most of that is not our nature our nature was implanted by others beliefs thus the crossroads can be accept your station or follow the mysteries Last Edited by aether on 05/31/2013 11:11 PM |
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Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 3018467 United States 05/31/2013 11:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes. Mine was a bit earlier...but certainly then as well. Quoting: Seer777 I have come to a bit of a crossroads with 'that'. Many of the questions I had, have been answered. I now see it, as well as I can, for it was and is. My Nature will not alter however. Perhaps that is what aether meant earlier about the 1-7 age. We reflect from there...and discard that which does not fit. However difficult it may be at the time... yes and no what we received age 1 to 7 is what other people and our society gave us my personal opinion is most of that is not our nature our nature was implanted by others beliefs thus the crossroads can be accept your station or follow the mysteries I believe personality is rather 'inborn'. While environmental experience pushes against the 'core' it can not disrupt it totally. There is foundation. And ABSOLUTE foundation. Which can be rocked but will not fall. [link to www.youtube.com] Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
aether (OP) User ID: 32860123 United Kingdom 05/31/2013 11:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes. Mine was a bit earlier...but certainly then as well. Quoting: Seer777 I have come to a bit of a crossroads with 'that'. Many of the questions I had, have been answered. I now see it, as well as I can, for it was and is. My Nature will not alter however. Perhaps that is what aether meant earlier about the 1-7 age. We reflect from there...and discard that which does not fit. However difficult it may be at the time... yes and no what we received age 1 to 7 is what other people and our society gave us my personal opinion is most of that is not our nature our nature was implanted by others beliefs thus the crossroads can be accept your station or follow the mysteries I believe personality is rather 'inborn'. While environmental experience pushes against the 'core' it can not disrupt it totally. There is foundation. And ABSOLUTE foundation. Which can be rocked but will not fall. [link to www.youtube.com] oh you say what i say thus i must agree nice |
Azeratel Axo User ID: 37789886 Canada 05/31/2013 11:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | EDIT Quoting: Azeratel Axo Was your original post referring to suffering, or environmental damage? Either way.... Well... [link to www.youtube.com] I see. And yet, Pigs are vegetarian.... no? Why are all the heaviest animals on land vegetarian by nature? Better yet.... why does man graze? WHY do people feel the need to eat like that? .... Dopamine.... The simplest of the monoamine neurotransmitter pathways.... Those that produce enough are conveniently shielded from the reasons WHY we as a society do what it takes to bring it to a level that allows us comfort.... What would you do if there was a constant nagging void within you that only Dopamine (food, sex, drugs) could fulfill? Do you eat more? Do you sleep around? Or, do you use drugs like amphetamines to boost it, upon discovering they CAN 'fill you up'? No other ways are possible.... our society has put all its might into vilifying the most 'silent' option (drugs)..... so what is left, is food and sex. Thus, the story of moral downfall of North America. The lesser of the evils has been stomped upon, so the greater evils remain. We are NOT what we eat, we are the inverse corollary. |
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Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 3018467 United States 05/31/2013 11:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | EDIT Quoting: Azeratel Axo Was your original post referring to suffering, or environmental damage? Either way.... Well... [link to www.youtube.com] I see. And yet, Pigs are vegetarian.... no? Why are all the heaviest animals on land vegetarian by nature? Better yet.... why does man graze? WHY do people feel the need to eat like that? .... Dopamine.... The simplest of the monoamine neurotransmitter pathways.... Those that produce enough are conveniently shielded from the reasons WHY we as a society do what it takes to bring it to a level that allows us comfort.... What would you do if there was a constant nagging void within you that only Dopamine (food, sex, drugs) could fulfill? Do you eat more? Do you sleep around? Or, do you use drugs like amphetamines to boost it, upon discovering they CAN 'fill you up'? No other ways are possible.... our society has put all its might into vilifying the most 'silent' option (drugs)..... so what is left, is food and sex. Thus, the story of moral downfall of North America. The lesser of the evils has been stomped upon, so the greater evils remain. We are NOT what we eat, we are the inverse corollary. It's hypnotism pi. Commercials. And Culture. Monkey see, monkey do...kinda thing. What does 'hungry' equal? What do you do fill the void? Find something you enjoy...we are all 'addicts' in one way or another. We all chase something... It realizing WHY we chase IT. Why do we? Because we are often lonely and we find connection through. Reflection. Can we tap back IN? I think yes. But what are the implications of said? Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 3018467 United States 05/31/2013 11:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I believe personality is rather 'inborn'. Quoting: Seer777 While environmental experience pushes against the 'core' it can not disrupt it totally. There is foundation. And ABSOLUTE foundation. Which can be rocked but will not fall. oh you say what i say thus i must agree nice I believe 'core personality' is inborn. Babies are unique, even among their siblings. One is loud. One is quiet. One is shy. One is outgoing. One smiles. One looks away. Some are somber. Some are silly. We react to cues based on environmental feedback. But out 'innate reaction' may rest elsewhere. Is it DNA? Or something else? Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
Azeratel Axo User ID: 37789886 Canada 05/31/2013 11:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I see. Quoting: Azeratel Axo And yet, Pigs are vegetarian.... no? Why are all the heaviest animals on land vegetarian by nature? Better yet.... why does man graze? WHY do people feel the need to eat like that? .... Dopamine.... The simplest of the monoamine neurotransmitter pathways.... Those that produce enough are conveniently shielded from the reasons WHY we as a society do what it takes to bring it to a level that allows us comfort.... What would you do if there was a constant nagging void within you that only Dopamine (food, sex, drugs) could fulfill? Do you eat more? Do you sleep around? Or, do you use drugs like amphetamines to boost it, upon discovering they CAN 'fill you up'? No other ways are possible.... our society has put all its might into vilifying the most 'silent' option (drugs)..... so what is left, is food and sex. Thus, the story of moral downfall of North America. The lesser of the evils has been stomped upon, so the greater evils remain. We are NOT what we eat, we are the inverse corollary. It's hypnotism pi. Commercials. And Culture. Monkey see, monkey do...kinda thing. What does 'hungry' equal? What do you do fill the void? Find something you enjoy...we are all 'addicts' in one way or another. We all chase something... It realizing WHY we chase IT. Why do we? Because we are often lonely and we find connection through. Reflection. Can we tap back IN? I think yes. But what are the implications of said? Just one little nag here.... sometimes it is reduced to something more basic. Like, the WANT to conform can cause us to consume drugs, for a myriad of reasons. Not even the 'finding of connection'.... merely, the feeling that we are CAPABLE of finding connection. .... 'Tap back in'. Like..... back into a state of 'proper' balance? |
Azeratel Axo User ID: 37789886 Canada 06/01/2013 12:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to youtu.be] .... I got a candle And I've got a spoon I live in a hallway with no doors And no rooms Under a windowsill They all were found A touch of concrete within the doorway Without a sound Someone save me if you will And take away all these pills And please just save me if you can From my blasphemy in my wasteland .... |
Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 3018467 United States 06/01/2013 12:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just one little nag here.... sometimes it is reduced to something more basic. Quoting: Azeratel Axo Like, the WANT to conformcan cause us to consume drugs, for a myriad of reasons. Not even the 'finding of connection'.... merely, the feeling that we are CAPABLE of finding connection. .... 'Tap back in'. Like..... back into a state of 'proper' balance? Which means what? In a simple sense... Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 3018467 United States 06/01/2013 12:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just one little nag here.... sometimes it is reduced to something more basic. Quoting: Azeratel Axo Like, the WANT to conform can cause us to consume drugs, for a myriad of reasons. Not even the 'finding of connection'.... merely, the feeling that we are CAPABLE of finding connection. .... 'Tap back in'. Like..... back into a state of 'proper' balance? Which means what? In a simple sense... What is Empathy? [link to www.youtube.com] I'm not looking for extra attention I just want to be just like you... ...I guess we would have to walk a mile In each other's shoes, at least What size you wear? I wear tens Let's see if you can fit your feet... I love Em...What a story teller. Genius. Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
Azeratel Axo User ID: 37789886 Canada 06/01/2013 12:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I believe personality is rather 'inborn'. Quoting: Seer777 While environmental experience pushes against the 'core' it can not disrupt it totally. There is foundation. And ABSOLUTE foundation. Which can be rocked but will not fall. oh you say what i say thus i must agree nice I believe 'core personality' is inborn. Babies are unique, even among their siblings. One is loud. One is quiet. One is shy. One is outgoing. One smiles. One looks away. Some are somber. Some are silly. We react to cues based on environmental feedback. But out 'innate reaction' may rest elsewhere. Is it DNA? Or something else? 'Personality building' is the single most complex interaction in nature. All the traits of the babies can be explained away with DNA. But as soon as they begin to age, nature and nurture take over. 'Nature' the product of the DNA (which can be altered, conceivably also through KundalinI), and 'nurture': the direct influence of the environment and our congeners. How does 'Soul' factor in I wonder? Can we 'gain' Soul? I think so. But 'why' is another story. |
Azeratel Axo User ID: 37789886 Canada 06/01/2013 12:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just one little nag here.... sometimes it is reduced to something more basic. Quoting: Azeratel Axo Like, the WANT to conform can cause us to consume drugs, for a myriad of reasons. Not even the 'finding of connection'.... merely, the feeling that we are CAPABLE of finding connection. .... 'Tap back in'. Like..... back into a state of 'proper' balance? Which means what? In a simple sense... I'll use the best example I can think of: the Opiates. .... Quoting: [link to ajp.psychiatryonline.org] Clinically, it has been noted that individuals with borderline personality disorder who are taking opiates report feeling euthymic rather than euphoric, while withdrawal is associated with sustained dysphoria. An opioid-deficit theory of borderline personality disorder might explain far more than the self-injurious behavior of these patients. For example, their extraordinary difficulties in social behavior may also be linked to a preexisting deficit in endogenous opioids. The endogenous opioid system not only regulates pain but also has an important role in social behavior. This system, through u-opioid receptors, has long been implicated in regulation of emotional and stress responses. Reductions in its function have been associated with attachment behavior deficits and anxiety-like responses in animal models. In many species, the soothing and comforting that infants receive from maternal grooming and touching is mediated through the opioid system. In human beings, opioids are involved in normal and pathological emotion regulation in addition to their more traditional role in modulating the sensory and affective dimensions of pain. In short, there is reason to think that endogenous opioids facilitate normal social function in healthy individuals. .... Euthymia.... Euthymia is a normal non-depressed, reasonably positive mood. Quoting: [link to en.wikipedia.org] It is distinguished from euphoria, which refers to an extreme of happiness, and dysthymia, which refers to a depressed mood. It is a term used frequently in mental status exams. What a terrible thing to be robbed of. Taken for granted by everyone.... but those who lack it. |
Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 3018467 United States 06/01/2013 12:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I believe 'core personality' is inborn. Quoting: Seer777 Babies are unique, even among their siblings. One is loud. One is quiet. One is shy. One is outgoing. One smiles. One looks away. Some are somber. Some are silly. We react to cues based on environmental feedback. But out 'innate reaction' may rest elsewhere. Is it DNA? Or something else? 'Personality building' is the single most complex interaction in nature. All the traits of the babies can be explained away with DNA. But as soon as they begin to age, nature and nurture take over. 'Nature' the product of the DNA (which can be altered, conceivably also through KundalinI), and 'nurture': the direct influence of the environment and our congeners. How does 'Soul' factor in I wonder? Can we 'gain' Soul? I think so. But 'why' is another story. As soon as? Explained away? I disagree. Where is the 'Soul' in your argument, pi? How many babies have you personally nurtured? Myself. A lot. Many. They are ALL different...yet the same. All seeking 'True Warmth'. As we all continue to do. For some reason... Explain it to me, because I don't understand... [link to www.youtube.com] Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
Azeratel Axo User ID: 37789886 Canada 06/01/2013 12:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just one little nag here.... sometimes it is reduced to something more basic. Quoting: Azeratel Axo Like, the WANT to conform can cause us to consume drugs, for a myriad of reasons. Not even the 'finding of connection'.... merely, the feeling that we are CAPABLE of finding connection. .... 'Tap back in'. Like..... back into a state of 'proper' balance? Which means what? In a simple sense... What is Empathy? [link to www.youtube.com] I'm not looking for extra attention I just want to be just like you... ...I guess we would have to walk a mile In each other's shoes, at least What size you wear? I wear tens Let's see if you can fit your feet... I love Em...What a story teller. Genius. [link to youtu.be] .... If I could be like that, I would give anything Just to live one day, in those shoes If I could be like that, What would I do, What would I do? .... Last Edited by pi on 06/01/2013 12:28 AM |
Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 3018467 United States 06/01/2013 12:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When one LOVES what they do...Nothing else matters. They will get up the same way the next day and continue moving forward regardless. There are always ears and eyes...to touch. [link to www.youtube.com] "My whole life is my work and my work is my life, and as long as I live, I shall continue to try to awaken my fellow Man to the glory of knowing himself." ~Lao Russel "Follow your bliss" ~Joseph Campbell Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
Azeratel Axo User ID: 37789886 Canada 06/01/2013 12:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I believe 'core personality' is inborn. Quoting: Seer777 Babies are unique, even among their siblings. One is loud. One is quiet. One is shy. One is outgoing. One smiles. One looks away. Some are somber. Some are silly. We react to cues based on environmental feedback. But out 'innate reaction' may rest elsewhere. Is it DNA? Or something else? 'Personality building' is the single most complex interaction in nature. All the traits of the babies can be explained away with DNA. But as soon as they begin to age, nature and nurture take over. 'Nature' the product of the DNA (which can be altered, conceivably also through KundalinI), and 'nurture': the direct influence of the environment and our congeners. How does 'Soul' factor in I wonder? Can we 'gain' Soul? I think so. But 'why' is another story. As soon as? Explained away? I disagree. Where is the 'Soul' in your argument, pi? How many babies have you personally nurtured? Myself. A lot. Many. They are ALL different...yet the same. All seeking 'True Warmth'. As we all continue to do. For some reason... Explain it to me, because I don't understand... [link to www.youtube.com] Isn't DNA beautiful? Is that not God's hand at work? Perhaps 'explained away' was the wrong wording. .... I think it is purity that lives in DNA. I think as soon as that child pops out of the womb, (s)he begins to age and is subject to all the ugliness of the world. Why do we generally 'forget' our lives as babies? It is because our consciousness is clearly vastly different to that of a baby. .... We seek warmth for one of two very simple reasons. I find it is not worth explaining scientifically, neurologically to most people. They expect something 'above' that. It is not enough to say 'the magical feeling of re-coupling of our u-opioid receptors' is what causes us to seek warmth. I think THAT, the massive complexity that is essentially meaningless, but for our FEELING that winds it into simplicity.... is beautiful.... and that is all the 'Soul' I need for biology. And my baby count is 1, as I babysat my littlest brother very frequently. Last Edited by pi on 06/01/2013 12:43 AM |
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