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Directed energy is not anger. Anger creates blindness to that about to transpire and depends on weakness to endure.

Cold radiates. The movement is more in creating silent in that entering its realm.
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i discovered a long linear time ago that my anger prompted me to discover something that has become inclusive in my being and i will never know if i would have discovered what i did without my anger prompting it to become discovered by my
 Quoting: aether


what it prompted me to know is
first you master destruction
then you are free to create
which is what i discovered about me

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Directed energy is not anger. Anger creates blindness to that about to transpire and depends on weakness to endure.
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Makes a lot of sense.

Cold radiates. The movement is more in creating silent in that entering its realm.
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hmm

Is it more ethical to radiate cold, or heat in that sense?

Everyone needs to be warm enough....
 Quoting: pi


I suppose that would depend on the sense. Extreme cold will 'burn' just as heat does.


As a 'take an bake' pizza, is in the works.

To eat it uncooked...not so delightful. But to place it under flame of the proper distance and proper time, delivers a golden crust and melted cheese.

:)
 Quoting: Seer777


Feels like all I've got sometimes is a freeze-dryer.

The pizzas come out technically edible but, ya know... better suited to astronauts in orbit.


Repo vans keep taking my ovens. I'm looking at a cheaper model. I have no sense of restraint at all when buying appliances.

Hence the freeze-dryer. But that one's all paid off.

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Destruction is as simple as taking a cold knife to oneself and knowing that no amount of plumbing will account for the synergistic(relational)matrix which inspires the speed to create the reflection known as conciousness.


From there you are in freefall with a smile.


The valley of the shadow of death can be as simple as an alleyway dependant on what you bring in with you.
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Directed energy is not anger. Anger creates blindness to that about to transpire and depends on weakness to endure.

Cold radiates. The movement is more in creating silent in that entering its realm.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45423994


i discovered a long linear time ago that my anger prompted me to discover something that has become inclusive in my being and i will never know if i would have discovered what i did without my anger prompting it to become discovered by my
 Quoting: aether


what it prompted me to know is
first you master destruction
then you are free to create
which is what i discovered about me
 Quoting: aether


/z\ reminded me of this, one of my favourite quotes, though I had only read the very last sentence before:


What paralyzes life is lack of faith and lack of audacity.
The difficulty lies not in solving problems but expressing
them. And so we cannot avoid this conclusion: it is
biologically evident that to gain control of passion and so
make it serve spirit must be a condition of progress. Sooner
or later, then, the world will brush aside our incredulity
and take this step : because whatever is the more true comes
out into the open, and whatever is better is ultimately
realized. The day will come when, after harnessing the
ether, the winds, the tides, gravitation, we shall harness
for God the energies of love. And, on that day, for the
second time in the history of the world, man will have
discovered fire.

-Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
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Destruction is as simple as taking a cold knife to oneself and knowing that no amount of plumbing will account for the synergistic(relational)matrix which inspires the speed to create the reflection known as conciousness.


From there you are in freefall with a smile.


The valley of the shadow of death can be as simple as an alleyway dependant on what you bring in with you.
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yes, i listened to what i was told at the exact moment when my anger was to become practical execution of it`s outcome
and what i was told surprised me so much i instantly stopped
that in it`self was a shock and it was perfect timing for it to choose to do so because my anger was the pinnacle of a long linear time (to me) of looking at all other possibilities, to me and deciding (judgment) destruction was the right judgement of me to make
years later i remembered that i had forgotten the first thing i noticed of my environment when i formed material and it was because i had forgotten what i knew that i had become angry

how about that, clever environment or what, i was totally wrong in my judgement, by my own making , because i forgot what i knew
but
at the same time i discovered a lot about myself and what i am to myself and from that moment, what i am to myself possessed different meaning to me
and
because i know it was my own making that i became angry and the consequences thereafter of my knowing i caused myself to become angry, because i forgot what i knew thus i was 100% wrong in being angry, did forever form me into how i am and will be because, without that practical experience of me and my environment, i could never have known me , as i do now, nor could i have known my environment as well as i experience i do now
and that continues in the same form, a self organizing creative path for me and all that is not me
and
i like it because now material eternity possess the same meaning for me as my memory of non material eternity (to me)

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Destruction is as simple as taking a cold knife to oneself and knowing that no amount of plumbing will account for the synergistic(relational)matrix which inspires the speed to create the reflection known as conciousness.


From there you are in freefall with a smile.


The valley of the shadow of death can be as simple as an alleyway dependant on what you bring in with you.
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Directed energy is not anger. Anger creates blindness to that about to transpire and depends on weakness to endure.

Cold radiates. The movement is more in creating silent in that entering its realm.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45423994


i discovered a long linear time ago that my anger prompted me to discover something that has become inclusive in my being and i will never know if i would have discovered what i did without my anger prompting it to become discovered by my
 Quoting: aether


what it prompted me to know is
first you master destruction
then you are free to create
which is what i discovered about me
 Quoting: aether


/z\ reminded me of this, one of my favourite quotes, though I had only read the very last sentence before:


What paralyzes life is lack of faith and lack of audacity.
The difficulty lies not in solving problems but expressing
them. And so we cannot avoid this conclusion: it is
biologically evident that to gain control of passion and so
make it serve spirit must be a condition of progress. Sooner
or later, then, the world will brush aside our incredulity
and take this step : because whatever is the more true comes
out into the open, and whatever is better is ultimately
realized. The day will come when, after harnessing the
ether, the winds, the tides, gravitation, we shall harness
for God the energies of love. And, on that day, for the
second time in the history of the world, man will have
discovered fire.

-Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
 Quoting: pi


that is beautifully true, to me
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It depends on relationships. The hot need the cold and vice versa. Think of all the fickle incendiary souls that have gone up in smoke without the hand of cold pragmatism.

The neutron star warps that about it.


Vapours of potential cool and form radians.
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I must say.... this post resonates deeply with me.

I've typed out several potential responses.... but I think I'll just ponder it for now.

hmm

"The neutron star warps that about it."
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Destruction is as simple as taking a cold knife to oneself and knowing that no amount of plumbing will account for the synergistic(relational)matrix which inspires the speed to create the reflection known as conciousness.


From there you are in freefall with a smile.


The valley of the shadow of death can be as simple as an alleyway dependant on what you bring in with you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45423994


yes, i listened to what i was told at the exact moment when my anger was to become practical execution of it`s outcome
and what i was told surprised me so much i instantly stopped
that in it`self was a shock and it was perfect timing for it to choose to do so because my anger was the pinnacle of a long linear time (to me) of looking at all other possibilities, to me and deciding (judgment) destruction was the right judgement of me to make
years later i remembered that i had forgotten the first thing i noticed of my environment when i formed material and it was because i had forgotten what i knew that i had become angry

how about that, clever environment or what, i was totally wrong in my judgement, by my own making , because i forgot what i knew
but
at the same time i discovered a lot about myself and what i am to myself and from that moment, what i am to myself possessed different meaning to me
and
because i know it was my own making that i became angry and the consequences thereafter of my knowing i caused myself to become angry, because i forgot what i knew thus i was 100% wrong in being angry, did forever form me into how i am and will be because, without that practical experience of me and my environment, i could never have known me , as i do now, nor could i have known my environment as well as i experience i do now
and that continues in the same form, a self organizing creative path for me and all that is not me
and
i like it because now material eternity possess the same meaning for me as my memory of non material eternity (to me)
 Quoting: aether


I have yet to reach a realization like /z\

Anger per se, at least outwardly, is rarely a matter for me.

Vendetta, on the other hand.... I feel I have depended on too long for a source of drive.

It's a feeling that I could blame people for, but I know I ought not to. So it dissipates before it produces consequences.... usually.

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Destruction is as simple as taking a cold knife to oneself and knowing that no amount of plumbing will account for the synergistic(relational)matrix which inspires the speed to create the reflection known as conciousness.


From there you are in freefall with a smile.


The valley of the shadow of death can be as simple as an alleyway dependant on what you bring in with you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45423994



[link to youtu.be]
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I agree. In an 'entrainment' sense. Like utilized on this website so often. No one really wants 'doom'. They just think they do, due to being conditioned for said, and also very bored.


Hope or apathy?

Seems opposites. But somehow similarly effective.

One numbs self, or learns bend with it, so as not to have to.

I suppose it is both.

Like a callus.
 Quoting: Seer777


Maybe it's just that the failure of apathy is hidden to our eyes....


What about anger?

Could enough anger produce a 'true' desire for 'doom'?

Seeing it as some kind of vengeance perhaps?



hmm

Good evening everyone. :)
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I think 'anger' is a product of prolonged frustration...

Frustration...a consequence of understanding NOT, when one desires to.

Dissonance rings here.


Statistic 352 as well. lol. Why couldn't I get IT?

No matter how hard I tried. Took it 3 times and passed with C-. I was a pretty good student. So that was blow. If that makes sense.

I asked myself that often...


Like tomatoes. Some can eat them right off the vine, others wouldn't dream of said.

Last Edited by Seer777 on 10/17/2013 11:51 PM
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nice !
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I agree. In an 'entrainment' sense. Like utilized on this website so often. No one really wants 'doom'. They just think they do, due to being conditioned for said, and also very bored.


Hope or apathy?

Seems opposites. But somehow similarly effective.

One numbs self, or learns bend with it, so as not to have to.

I suppose it is both.

Like a callus.
 Quoting: Seer777


Maybe it's just that the failure of apathy is hidden to our eyes....


What about anger?

Could enough anger produce a 'true' desire for 'doom'?

Seeing it as some kind of vengeance perhaps?



hmm

Good evening everyone. :)
 Quoting: pi


I think 'anger' is a product of prolonged frustration...

Frustration...a consequence of understanding NOT, when one desires to.

Dissonance rings here.


Statistic 352 as well. lol. Why couldn't I get IT?

No matter how hard I tried. Took it 3 times and passed with C-. I was a pretty good student. So that was blow. If that makes sense.

I asked myself that often...


Like tomatoes. Some can eat them right off the vine, others wouldn't dream of said.
 Quoting: Seer777


Maybe anger is an attempt to 'bruteforce' the frustration....

In nature, it could wind up being very helpful.

But symbols can't be killed with brute strength. Funny how long it takes for many people to..... domesticate. We aren't adapted for our 'civilization'; to me that's a certainty.

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But symbols can't be killed with brute strength.
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no, but they can be synced into one seamless system-- one origin

combine and conquer
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I think 'anger' is a product of prolonged frustration...

Frustration...a consequence of understanding NOT, when one desires to.

Dissonance rings here.


Statistic 352 as well. lol. Why couldn't I get IT?

No matter how hard I tried. Took it 3 times and passed with C-. I was a pretty good student. So that was blow. If that makes sense.

I asked myself that often...


Like tomatoes. Some can eat them right off the vine, others wouldn't dream of said.
 Quoting: Seer777


Maybe anger is an attempt to 'bruteforce' the frustration....

In nature, it could wind up being very helpful.

But symbols can't be killed with brute strength. Funny how long it takes for many people to..... domesticate. We aren't adapted for our 'civilization'; to me that's a certainty.
 Quoting: pi


Anger is often a toddler throwing a trauma. Thrashing, screaming, pounding, crying on ground...

Not always.

Just because we age doesn't mean that feeling of helplessness/anger doesn't rise.

It becomes padded with time for most.


Controlling of ones impulses.

To have want 'of' and not 'get' is often 'first' to know.

Whether one learns or not...?

Last Edited by Seer777 on 10/18/2013 12:31 AM
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But symbols can't be killed with brute strength.
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no, but they can be synced into one seamless system-- one origin

combine and conquer
 Quoting: rekameohsnad


Do you think we could ever do this unintentionally?

In any 'reality'?
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But symbols can't be killed with brute strength.
 Quoting: pi


no, but they can be synced into one seamless system-- one origin

combine and conquer
 Quoting: rekameohsnad


Do you think we could ever do this unintentionally?

In any 'reality'?
 Quoting: pi


Symbols just are...


I mean really...how MUCH does the 'Vesica Piscis' really show?

lol.

vesicapisces

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But symbols can't be killed with brute strength.
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no, but they can be synced into one seamless system-- one origin

combine and conquer
 Quoting: rekameohsnad


Do you think we could ever do this unintentionally?

In any 'reality'?
 Quoting: pi


great question....really great question

the answer is yes-- concept of 'revelations'
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I think 'anger' is a product of prolonged frustration...

Frustration...a consequence of understanding NOT, when one desires to.

Dissonance rings here.


Statistic 352 as well. lol. Why couldn't I get IT?

No matter how hard I tried. Took it 3 times and passed with C-. I was a pretty good student. So that was blow. If that makes sense.

I asked myself that often...


Like tomatoes. Some can eat them right off the vine, others wouldn't dream of said.
 Quoting: Seer777


Maybe anger is an attempt to 'bruteforce' the frustration....

In nature, it could wind up being very helpful.

But symbols can't be killed with brute strength. Funny how long it takes for many people to..... domesticate. We aren't adapted for our 'civilization'; to me that's a certainty.
 Quoting: pi


Anger is often a toddler throwing a trauma. Thrashing, screaming, pounding, crying on ground...

Not always.

Just because we age doesn't mean that feeling of helplessness/anger doesn't rise.

It becomes padded with time for most.


Controlling of ones impulses.

To have want 'of' and not 'get' is often 'first' to know.

Whether one learns or not...?
 Quoting: Seer777


So is anger essentially a misfire then?

....

I do think it can be harnessed, and that it can, if present but not overwhelming, can be useful. As with other emotions.

So long as it does not cloud the mind.....
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I mean really...how MUCH does the 'Vesica Piscis' really show?

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the Chalice Well or 'a spring in the well'

Vesica Piscis is beginning and ending
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But symbols can't be killed with brute strength.
 Quoting: pi


no, but they can be synced into one seamless system-- one origin

combine and conquer
 Quoting: rekameohsnad


Do you think we could ever do this unintentionally?

In any 'reality'?
 Quoting: pi


Symbols just are...


I mean really...how MUCH does the 'Vesica Piscis' really show?

lol.

vesicapisces
 Quoting: Seer777


So much.... I feel.

Maybe it needs to be the right symbol.

Or maybe they are only ever occasionally meaningful.... and even then for only a moment.

The only 'real comprehension' we ever know. Every nerve firing in perfect synch with the simplicity that lies before it.

Maybe.

hmm
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Anger is often a toddler throwing a trauma. Thrashing, screaming, pounding, crying on ground...

Not always.

Just because we age doesn't mean that feeling of helplessness/anger doesn't rise.

It becomes padded with time for most.


Controlling of ones impulses.

To have want 'of' and not 'get' is often 'first' to know.

Whether one learns or not...?
 Quoting: Seer777


So is anger essentially a misfire then?

....

I do think it can be harnessed, and that it can, if present but not overwhelming, can be useful. As with other emotions.

So long as it does not cloud the mind.....
 Quoting: pi


IDk.

I think anger always clouds the Mind. Due to its inherent nature.

Fight or Flight.

Judging the space between said, get easier with time. As all find. Eventually.

Where being denied a candy bar in the supermarket can lead to a full on 'meltdown' of a child, an adult displaying said behavior would be quickly 'noticed'...
Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
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Where being denied a candy bar in the supermarket can lead to a full on 'meltdown' of a child, an adult displaying said behavior would be quickly 'noticed'...
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what is the 'line' between a child and adult ?

age alone ?
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Where being denied a candy bar in the supermarket can lead to a full on 'meltdown' of a child, an adult displaying said behavior would be quickly 'noticed'...
 Quoting: Seer777


what is the 'line' between a child and adult ?

age alone ?
 Quoting: rekameohsnad


The Line?

Good question...
Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
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Maybe.

hmm
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I should specify I was talking about symbols in general.

Vesica Pisces.... has yet to 'inspire' my thought-forms all too much.
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Re: X Marks the Spot
Maybe.

hmm
 Quoting: pi


I should specify I was talking about symbols in general.

Vesica Pisces.... has yet to 'inspire' my thought-forms all too much.
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I see.

There is much to be discovered there.


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Maybe.

hmm
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I should specify I was talking about symbols in general.

Vesica Pisces.... has yet to 'inspire' my thought-forms all too much.
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It's all in the hips...
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Maybe.

hmm
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I should specify I was talking about symbols in general.

Vesica Pisces.... has yet to 'inspire' my thought-forms all too much.
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It's all in the hips...
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aka: square root of 2
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Re: X Marks the Spot
I mean really...how MUCH does the 'Vesica Piscis' really show?

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the Chalice Well or 'a spring in the well'

Vesica Piscis is beginning and ending
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hmm

I think I sometimes meditate on something similar.

The above matches the feeling....

Centering sort of just below my Ajna.

Maybe I'll focus on the visualization aspect a little more next time.

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