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If you want to know immolation w/o any physical injury, i'll send you some jolokias in the mail.
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I won't parse words with you anymore, Ray. All you want is confrontation, and you you'll have to look elsewhere than me. You will not find it in me anymore when trying to get me to reply to you, as I will not reply that often anymore. You remind me of the Smurfs.
 Quoting: Septenary Spirals


Wrong guy, still me.
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Dammit, Janet. Fucking AC's.
 Quoting: Septenary Spirals


nn mary cheer
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If you want to know immolation w/o any physical injury, i'll send you some jolokias in the mail.
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I won't parse words with you anymore, Ray. All you want is confrontation, and you you'll have to look elsewhere than me. You will not find it in me anymore when trying to get me to reply to you, as I will not reply that often anymore. You remind me of the Smurfs.
 Quoting: Septenary Spirals


Wrong guy, still me.
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Dammit, Janet. Fucking AC's.
 Quoting: Septenary Spirals



Come on, you must see the humor in that, it was ragingly funny for me, so cheers for the belly laughs.
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No omni-pain, no omni-gain

1 makes it worthwhile in the flesh

Trees said soon, now that I do believe
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Maybe pain is simply the lowest energy state.

Or the process of being forced into it.
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Pain like emotion is ineffective action.
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hmm

Then why does anyone self-harm?

Is it merely a trick of the flesh?
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


Disbelief, the languid ethereal feeling of serotonin restriction in the temporal lobe.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fractaliscious


Indeed.

And the adrenaline release of urgency - of a problem that is easily addressed - ensures that it can't be ignored. That it is a valid concern.... that deserves, and that will receive, attention.
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hiding
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sorry sun
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:milk guy:naughtylmao
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hmm

Then why does anyone self-harm?

Is it merely a trick of the flesh?
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


Disbelief, the languid ethereal feeling of serotonin restriction in the temporal lobe.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fractaliscious


i always thought it is pain for gain
 Quoting: aether


Depends how long it lasts.
 Quoting: Septenary Spirals


yes, i`m guessing cos sado is an issue i avoid tounge
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How do you define pain? Discomfort? Of varying durations and inten sities?
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That's a hard thing to describe when it is not physical.

I can't focus on anything for any amount of time. I pace to deal with that sometimes. Many times right now. There is no peace, even when peace is all around me.

I know some of you, including you Dion, may not understand the need to answer questions, but the removal of knowing what happened to me is an aching tooth, constant in its pain, just waiting to be removed to uncover what is hidden. Emotional seclusion. Inability to define semi-traumatic experiences, and even if done so, no one would believe, much less understand. Inability to focus on anything, only wishing you could, just to lose yourself from thinking about that fucking tooth. Subconsciously pushing it with the tongue, finding the distaste of blood both red and white. Wondering if you yanked the mother fucker out, if it would heal, or worsen, and never knowing which. And, fuck, how can anyone know if they do not dream much...much less lucid dream. Isolation.
 Quoting: Septenary Spirals


As I said years ago to a friend long dead, yet very much with me. There is nothing inside but you and that which you deny exposure.

It rots and it causes hostile effluents when unallowed to be aired.

What can/could you fear so much as not to be allowed a breath.
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It is not fear at all. Perhaps...actually, it is a type of frustration from the inability to be ME, and not know what happened to me. That is part, but the other is this pervasive feeling of never accomplishing anything of value, though knowing I have been. Not in an insecurity way, but in a 'there has got to be something more that I am missing' type of feeling.

I was thinking about an hour or so ago, about explaining my life, what I have learned, been through, etc. It is massive and so complex I don't even want to think about it myself, though I would love for it to be written down, so my family and my kids would know. Impossible. It is so vast, and impossible for many to believe. So, I just routinely go day through day, waiting for the next day, knowing it is getting closer and closer to that one day.
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There is no winning brother. For years I held back because without a straight and regular you'd never get ahead. Then, I cut it and just was and money kept flowing in. Fear then became losing it as a quantity of personal character and failing.

There is always a totem we stow our belief in ,as to externalize the deserved in our nature from finding it's balance.

Outflow
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What day is it?

Serious question, I do not keep track of days like others, so far it has been three different days on this thread in the past couple of hours, time is really speeding up.
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it is everything is fucked day tounge
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Good, my favorite time.
In chaos I forget to focus on self.
Free
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thanks Akuk:)
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William Blake is awesome.

That piece is called ancient of days, he urizon is imposing his will on mankind, using a triangle, or pyramid.

Is very cool picture.

Edit to add, I just checked, he is using a compass to asses the extent of his creation, yet the pic is about him imposing order on the free spirit of mankind.
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Pain like emotion is ineffective action.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39812740


hmm

Then why does anyone self-harm?

Is it merely a trick of the flesh?
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


Disbelief, the languid ethereal feeling of serotonin restriction in the temporal lobe.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fractaliscious


i always thought it is pain for gain
 Quoting: aether


Maybe....?

I've always thought that there was something 'missing' the 'pain for gain' idea

Pain does not drive us forward.... it stops us in our tracks.

The Hedonistic Imperative outlines how genetic engineering
and nanotechnology will abolish suffering in all sentient
life.

The abolitionist project is hugely ambitious but
technically feasible. It is also instrumentally rational and
morally urgent. The metabolic pathways of pain and malaise
evolved because they served the fitness of our genes in the
ancestral environment. They will be replaced by a different
sort of neural architecture - a motivational system based on
heritable gradients of bliss. States of sublime well-being
are destined to become the genetically pre-programmed norm of
mental health. It is predicted that the world's last
unpleasant experience will be a precisely dateable event.


....
 Quoting: [link to www.hedweb.com]
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hmm

Then why does anyone self-harm?

Is it merely a trick of the flesh?
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


Disbelief, the languid ethereal feeling of serotonin restriction in the temporal lobe.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fractaliscious


i always thought it is pain for gain
 Quoting: aether


Maybe....?

I've always thought that there was something 'missing' the 'pain for gain' idea

Pain does not drive us forward.... it stops us in our tracks.

The Hedonistic Imperative outlines how genetic engineering
and nanotechnology will abolish suffering in all sentient
life.

The abolitionist project is hugely ambitious but
technically feasible. It is also instrumentally rational and
morally urgent. The metabolic pathways of pain and malaise
evolved because they served the fitness of our genes in the
ancestral environment. They will be replaced by a different
sort of neural architecture - a motivational system based on
heritable gradients of bliss. States of sublime well-being
are destined to become the genetically pre-programmed norm of
mental health. It is predicted that the world's last
unpleasant experience will be a precisely dateable event.


....
 Quoting: [link to www.hedweb.com]

 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


i agree but i have met many people whom to me enjoy painful emotion and some physical pain to
and very many whom seem to me to thrive on the emotional effects of others obvious pain
and
all our faith tell us it is our noble right to suffer and to not suffer is not to be noble (just)
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hmmm...No apology?

Fine...I know when I'm not wanted...Carry on.



:D
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thanks Akuk:)
 Quoting: GBRYAL


William Blake is awesome.

That piece is called ancient of days, he urizon is imposing his will on mankind, using a triangle, or pyramid.

Is very cool picture.

Edit to add, I just checked, he is using a compass to asses the extent of his creation, yet the pic is about him imposing order on the free spirit of mankind.
 Quoting: acuk


Ahhhhh, Willy Bake.

I trust the lead in the lithos had a lot to do with his spiritual envieglements.

Cheers
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An extinct species of tool-making humans apparently occupied a vast area in China as early as 1.7 million years ago, researchers say.

The human lineage evolved in Africa, with now-extinct species of humans dispersing away from their origin continent more than a million years before modern humans did. Scientists would like to learn more about when and where humans went to better understand what drove human evolution.

Researchers investigated the Nihewan Basin, which lies in a mountainous region about 90 miles (150 kilometers) west of Beijing. It holds more than 60 sites from the Stone Age, with thousands of stone tools found there since 1972 — relatively simple types, such as stone flakes altogether known as the Oldowan. Researchers suspect these artifacts belonged to Homo erectus, "thought to be ancestral to Homo sapiens," Hong Ao, a paleomagnetist at the Chinese Academy of Sciences in Xi'an, told LiveScience.


Con't @ [link to www.livescience.com]
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Thread: Early Humans Lived in China 1.7 Million Years Ago
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Disbelief, the languid ethereal feeling of serotonin restriction in the temporal lobe.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fractaliscious


i always thought it is pain for gain
 Quoting: aether


Maybe....?

I've always thought that there was something 'missing' the 'pain for gain' idea

Pain does not drive us forward.... it stops us in our tracks.

The Hedonistic Imperative outlines how genetic engineering
and nanotechnology will abolish suffering in all sentient
life.

The abolitionist project is hugely ambitious but
technically feasible. It is also instrumentally rational and
morally urgent. The metabolic pathways of pain and malaise
evolved because they served the fitness of our genes in the
ancestral environment. They will be replaced by a different
sort of neural architecture - a motivational system based on
heritable gradients of bliss. States of sublime well-being
are destined to become the genetically pre-programmed norm of
mental health. It is predicted that the world's last
unpleasant experience will be a precisely dateable event.


....
 Quoting: [link to www.hedweb.com]

 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


i agree but i have met many people whom to me enjoy painful emotion and some physical pain to
and very many whom seem to me to thrive on the emotional effects of others obvious pain
and
all our faith tell us it is our noble right to suffer and to not suffer is not to be noble (just)
 Quoting: aether


I wonder, though, if it is perhaps the excitatory nature of pain that is being harnessed to fill a 'void'.

Sort of like how KundalinI releases satisfying amounts of enkephalins and endorphins, but not as a primary 'function', as it were.

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thanks Akuk:)
 Quoting: GBRYAL


William Blake is awesome.

That piece is called ancient of days, he urizon is imposing his will on mankind, using a triangle, or pyramid.

Is very cool picture.

Edit to add, I just checked, he is using a compass to asses the extent of his creation, yet the pic is about him imposing order on the free spirit of mankind.
 Quoting: acuk


Ahhhhh, Willy Bake.

I trust the lead in the lithos had a lot to do with his spiritual envieglements.

Cheers
,
 Quoting: Dionysian Fractaliscious


[link to encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com (secure)]

Me and old blakey been or seen some of the same things beings and places, if his art and writings are anything to go by.

Could you explain the process the lead has please?
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Pain like emotion is ineffective action.
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hmm

Then why does anyone self-harm?

Is it merely a trick of the flesh?
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


Disbelief, the languid ethereal feeling of serotonin restriction in the temporal lobe.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fractaliscious


i always thought it is pain for gain
 Quoting: aether


Pain is only momentary.
Unless it is swallowed and believed to be a necessary part of self.

Then it becomes emotion and perspective and grows to obscure vision.
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I wonder, though, if it is perhaps the excitatory nature of pain that is being harnessed to fill a 'void'.

Sort of like how KundalinI releases satisfying amounts of enkephalins and endorphins, but not as a primary 'function', as it were.
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


i know you are right, i sense that part of it which is why i say they enjoy it
i detect the satisfaction sensation
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hmm

Then why does anyone self-harm?

Is it merely a trick of the flesh?
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


Disbelief, the languid ethereal feeling of serotonin restriction in the temporal lobe.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fractaliscious


i always thought it is pain for gain
 Quoting: aether


Pain is only momentary.
Unless it is swallowed and believed to be a necessary part of self.

Then it becomes emotion and perspective and grows to obscure vision.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fractaliscious


i agree, pain is a natural instant signal to notice what needs to be noticed with the point being, fix what is noticeable wrong
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thanks Akuk:)
 Quoting: GBRYAL


William Blake is awesome.

That piece is called ancient of days, he urizon is imposing his will on mankind, using a triangle, or pyramid.

Is very cool picture.

Edit to add, I just checked, he is using a compass to asses the extent of his creation, yet the pic is about him imposing order on the free spirit of mankind.
 Quoting: acuk


Ahhhhh, Willy Bake.

I trust the lead in the lithos had a lot to do with his spiritual envieglements.

Cheers
,
 Quoting: Dionysian Fractaliscious


[link to encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com (secure)]

Me and old blakey been or seen some of the same things beings and places, if his art and writings are anything to go by.

Could you explain the process the lead has please?
 Quoting: acuk


At times aggression and others transcendence.

The Romans found it a necessity to stimulate/sweeten wine.

I've likely sucked in a lot of lead within my fascination for old homes.

Pb
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Disbelief, the languid ethereal feeling of serotonin restriction in the temporal lobe.
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i always thought it is pain for gain
 Quoting: aether


Pain is only momentary.
Unless it is swallowed and believed to be a necessary part of self.

Then it becomes emotion and perspective and grows to obscure vision.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fractaliscious


i agree, pain is a natural instant signal to notice what needs to be noticed with the point being, fix what is noticeable wrong
 Quoting: aether


Yes and if allowd to dawdle it becomes emotional reflex.

An image which correlates to a vibratory state of being.

An oft viewed snapshot in that seventies green grey overlay.
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hmmm...No apology?

Fine...I know when I'm not wanted...Carry on.

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:D
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lol

I'm sorry.

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William Blake is awesome.

That piece is called ancient of days, he urizon is imposing his will on mankind, using a triangle, or pyramid.

Is very cool picture.

Edit to add, I just checked, he is using a compass to asses the extent of his creation, yet the pic is about him imposing order on the free spirit of mankind.
 Quoting: acuk


Ahhhhh, Willy Bake.

I trust the lead in the lithos had a lot to do with his spiritual envieglements.

Cheers
,
 Quoting: Dionysian Fractaliscious


[link to encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com (secure)]

Me and old blakey been or seen some of the same things beings and places, if his art and writings are anything to go by.

Could you explain the process the lead has please?
 Quoting: acuk


At times aggression and others transcendence.

The Romans found it a necessity to stimulate/sweeten wine.

I've likely sucked in a lot of lead within my fascination for old homes.

Pb
 Quoting: Dionysian Fractaliscious



Me too, we often scrap a lot in the building game, it has a nice taste to it.
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hmmm...No apology?

Fine...I know when I'm not wanted...Carry on.

[link to www.youtube.com]

:D
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lol

I'm sorry.

kimdowtcwy
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^^^That would be you...Kim Jong Sept.

You had a weird PMS lashing out at me.

Take some Pamprin and get to bed. Your whining and whinging about "bad dreams" must give you a headache and cramps.

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Ahhhhh, Willy Bake.

I trust the lead in the lithos had a lot to do with his spiritual envieglements.

Cheers
,
 Quoting: Dionysian Fractaliscious


[link to encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com (secure)]

Me and old blakey been or seen some of the same things beings and places, if his art and writings are anything to go by.

Could you explain the process the lead has please?
 Quoting: acuk


At times aggression and others transcendence.

The Romans found it a necessity to stimulate/sweeten wine.

I've likely sucked in a lot of lead within my fascination for old homes.

Pb
 Quoting: Dionysian Fractaliscious



Me too, we often scrap a lot in the building game, it has a nice taste to it.
 Quoting: acuk


As long as you are fracturing it rather than electrically agitating it, it's all good.

A crowbar goes far on mortar and lath.
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hmmm...No apology?

Fine...I know when I'm not wanted...Carry on.

[link to www.youtube.com]

:D
 Quoting: Rayrayz


lol

I'm sorry.

kimdowtcwy
 Quoting: Septenary Spirals


^^^That would be you...Kim Jong Sept.

You had a weird PMS lashing out at me.

Take some Pamprin and get to bed. You're whining and whinging about "bad dreams" must give you a headache and cramps.
 Quoting: Rayrayz


Sado Dick. Spot on.

Insecurities are a bitch, aren't they? "O, I'm going to turn your cutup into my cutup because I can't think of anything better."

chuckle

You'll get it someday.
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hmmm...No apology?

Fine...I know when I'm not wanted...Carry on.

[link to www.youtube.com]

:D
 Quoting: Rayrayz


lol

I'm sorry.

kimdowtcwy
 Quoting: Septenary Spirals


^^^That would be you...Kim Jong Sept.

You had a weird PMS lashing out at me.

Take some Pamprin and get to bed. You're whining and whinging about "bad dreams" must give you a headache and cramps.
 Quoting: Rayrayz


Sado Dick. Spot on.

Insecurities are a bitch, aren't they? "O, I'm going to turn your cutup into my cutup because I can't think of anything better."

chuckle

You'll get it someday.
 Quoting: Septenary Spirals


Like an ex wife with polaroids of you with a dozen hookers. ;)
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hmmm...No apology?

Fine...I know when I'm not wanted...Carry on.

[link to www.youtube.com]

:D
 Quoting: Rayrayz


lol

I'm sorry.

kimdowtcwy
 Quoting: Septenary Spirals


^^^That would be you...Kim Jong Sept.

You had a weird PMS lashing out at me.

Take some Pamprin and get to bed. You're whining and whinging about "bad dreams" must give you a headache and cramps.
 Quoting: Rayrayz


Sado Dick. Spot on.

Insecurities are a bitch, aren't they.
 Quoting: Septenary Spirals


Lol, Stop with the Sado BS.

I defo do not enjoy inflicting pain or any other associated social degenerate condition.

You flipped out and threw your empty gallon of Häagen-Dazs® at me cuz you were having a bad day...and something on Oprah made you emotional....Not my fault.
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Going back to taking on the roles, those who utilize archetypes, would it be correct in saying they bind with them?

See how we would dance energetically, I see that as a swirl, I will enter and we move up together in a spiral, Ah this has only happened with me and females also, no males, hmm, would this be the same with archetypes?

Dammit, I do not think I am wording this right, when one takes on the belief they are the spirit or whatever of a certain being, they pull that being to them, some lose themselves through not knowing self, some move past it, is that the role of them, the gods and goddesses, saints etc, to give us something to aim for, we find the one that fits, and bind with it, or is that just one path of many?

Upon typing this the energy just shot up in my legs and tummmy, wow nice.





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