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Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 61500979 United States 08/13/2014 09:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are you talking to me? I have paid for every one of my months here. Somethings $45/mo when my account overdrew. Ahhh. Bank of America, may you find your special place in karma. And so it goes. Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 61500979 United States 08/13/2014 09:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are you talking to me? I have paid for every one of my months here. Sometimes $45/mo when my account overdrew. Ahhh. Bank of America, may you find your special place in karma. And so it goes. :) [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Last Edited by Seer777 on 08/13/2014 09:56 PM Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
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V²(pi)³³³ User ID: 20063747 Canada 08/13/2014 10:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anyone else carry around the rather ingrained belief that 'suicides go to hell'? I remember the first time I heard it and the confusion it caused within me. Quoting: Seer777 It was addressed in What Dreams May Come. His wife commits suicide and he goes to Hell to 'bring her back'. Powerful movie. Many did not like it. Most likely due the intensity of the 'feels'. I sobbed like a baby at the funeral scene, every time. yah. Watching all that has gone on this last week I have to say I was struck by a particular splinter of thought which has quite stuck. Being...all those people stuck on that mountain dying of thirst and other atrocities, related to a certain group, being broadcast for all to see. I was wondering...if 'God's Hand' was ever to be 'forced' it would be now. I recall that scene in Poltergeist 2 with the people in the pit crying for God to save them only to die anyway. In a pretty brutal fashion. I have come to a point where I am being to, for the first time in my life, lean toward atheism. I have found faith to be lacking and subject to false hope which leads to death and atrocity. On the other hand can can see WHY, if there WAS a GOD, at some point... it would leave. I think the real monster is us. And always has been. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] …. I feel that atheism is merely a failure of the Left hemisphere of the brain to initiate its own expansion. EG the death of the Mind as a hedonist, and the birth of (merely) perfect excision of doubt If we cannot 'doubt', then we already know everything. What we choose to believe is a question of what we, for all intents and purposes, know to be Truth. Therefore we become Truth's vectors…. when we discover enough for ourselves to know that the noise of the chaos of un-knowing is drowned out by the Light of the vectors of Truth, we can say to ourselves, we are 'Good'. If even that Light that is Good turns again upon itself out of unbelief in it's own reality…. in a desperate charge to discover the shadows that it knows must be there…. …. then what are we chasing….? And indeed, what have 'We' become, and for God's sakes, why? ….. //// I love this song, but, I don't expect you to listen to it. LOL. The lyrics though, I feel are relevant to this…. they are on the linked page btw. [link to youtu.be] Yeah, IDK. I was ingrained with 'Religion' and deep love for 'God' early on. The discrepancies in 'Religion' were obvious and caused me problem ever since. However, hard foundation to move away from. It was something I saw some months back that planted the seed.. A GLP thread. I never 'clicked it', but it lingered on the 'front page' for days. Something like, 'Christian Father commits suicide after watching his wife and daughter raped by Muslim soldiers'. I hated that thread. I hated that title. But it kept coming up. I thought to myself, WHY did he killed himself after? Grief? And I was suddenly struck by a notion. That while he watched his wife and daughter being raped, he was praying to 'God' that his believed 'Most High' to deliver them from such 'EVIL', and he received NO RESPONSE. He may have realized in that moment, how absolutely deluded we ALL were. Regarding GOD. And Faith. And Belief. And where it gets us. So instead of living with that knowledge, he choose to take his life, and leave behind his wife and daughter who were raped in front of him. To their own fate. I have been trying to get that off my chest for months. Now I have. I am dramatic by Nature. Love me or hate me. This is the way I am. And the way I have always been. Admittedly my first thought was the biblical man, Lot. …. I was never raised religiously…. I was also an atheist for several years. …. note the origin of the term 'meme'. .... "If there is evil in this world, does it have mercy?" [link to s328.photobucket.com] <-- some artwork --:~: |
V²(pi)³³³ User ID: 20063747 Canada 08/13/2014 10:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And I add, the threat of having to perhaps learn my mistakes over again has scared me away from suicidal thoughts for the past few years…. .... "If there is evil in this world, does it have mercy?" [link to s328.photobucket.com] <-- some artwork --:~: |
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V²(pi)³³³ User ID: 20063747 Canada 08/13/2014 10:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Correct. Quoting: Seer777 I am in plain sight. And often predictable. I do that for a reason. I find it offers people comfort. And an easy target. Both. I second this notion for myself…. .... "If there is evil in this world, does it have mercy?" [link to s328.photobucket.com] <-- some artwork --:~: |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 57728098 United States 08/13/2014 10:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And I add, the threat of having to perhaps learn my mistakes over again has scared me away from suicidal thoughts for the past few years…. Quoting: V²(pi)³³³ Anyone else carry around the rather ingrained belief that 'suicides go to hell'? I remember the first time I heard it and the confusion it caused within me. It was addressed in What Dreams May Come. His wife commits suicide and he goes to Hell to 'bring her back'. Powerful movie. Many did not like it. Most likely due the intensity of the 'feels'. I sobbed like a baby at the funeral scene, every time. yah. let me tell you what was told to me about suicide if you do it you will not go to hell you will go to a empty place of nothing kinda like a cosmic trash can im guessing when you get that bad and you are thinking bad thoughts think of anything anyone and I mean anyone center on them bring your self out think about that one person in your life what they mean to you... think of good things ... and crawl out of the whole I know of a few people who ended their life one came to me after she did it personally I think shes living in her own hell she built her self... I saw half of her body she looked alive two bodies were next to her as if attached when she moved they moved on both sides they looked like dead zombies the skin color and the mouth just like zombies one was her boyfriend of 20 years the other was her son both dead I saw them connected to her she was reaching out to me to reach to someone else who couldn't hear her wanted ME to tell him a message saying she was sorry I know this sounds crazy bizarre strange I have a hard time believing what i saw.. I question why I didnt freak out screaming what i saw instead I was angry told her to go do it her self she ended her life it was her 3rd time trying there is my TMI for the night |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 57728098 United States 08/13/2014 10:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | they design those drugs so that you take it for the rest of your life.. you try and get off and you will do some fucked up shit best thing is family or friends and if you dont have that find a stranger there is always someone out there who will listen talk till you just cant talk get it out of your system |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 61585460 United States 08/13/2014 10:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yeah, IDK. Quoting: Seer777 I was ingrained with 'Religion' and deep love for 'God' early on. The discrepancies in 'Religion' were obvious and caused me problem ever since. However, hard foundation to move away from. It was something I saw some months back that planted the seed.. A GLP thread. I never 'clicked it', but it lingered on the 'front page' for days. Something like, 'Christian Father commits suicide after watching his wife and daughter raped by Muslim soldiers'. I hated that thread. I hated that title. But it kept coming up. I thought to myself, WHY did he killed himself after? Grief? And I was suddenly struck by a notion. That while he watched his wife and daughter being raped, he was praying to 'God' that his believed 'Most High' to deliver them from such 'EVIL', and he received NO RESPONSE. He may have realized in that moment, how absolutely deluded we ALL were. Regarding GOD. And Faith. And Belief. And where it gets us. So instead of living with that knowledge, he choose to take his life, and leave behind his wife and daughter who were raped in front of him. To their own fate. I have been trying to get that off my chest for months. Now I have. I am dramatic by Nature. Love me or hate me. This is the way I am. And the way I have always been. Most likely he killed himself from trauma, grief and not having been able to protect his family himself. I think in that part of the world family "honor" is a big part of their life, Christian or not, and it was his responsibility as the father. And he probably felt he failed in his duty. And knowing that he wouldn't be able to pay the tax demanded in the future either, so expecting more of the same. Most Christians aren't expecting God to intervene directly in their affairs by striking down their attackers at this point in time. Congrats on losing seventy pounds by the way. That's amazing! |
V²(pi)³³³ User ID: 20063747 Canada 08/13/2014 10:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | …. Quoting: misc.let me tell you what was told to me about suicide if you do it you will not go to hell you will go to a empty place of nothing kinda like a cosmic trash can im guessing when you get that bad and you are thinking bad thoughts think of anything anyone and I mean anyone center on them bring your self out think about that one person in your life what they mean to you... think of good things ... and crawl out of the whole I know of a few people who ended their life one came to me after she did it personally I think shes living in her own hell she built her self... I saw half of her body she looked alive two bodies were next to her as if attached when she moved they moved on both sides they looked like dead zombies the skin color and the mouth just like zombies one was her boyfriend of 20 years the other was her son both dead I saw them connected to her she was reaching out to me to reach to someone else who couldn't hear her wanted ME to tell him a message saying she was sorry I know this sounds crazy bizarre strange I have a hard time believing what i saw.. I question why I didnt freak out screaming what i saw instead I was angry told her to go do it her self she ended her life it was her 3rd time trying there is my TMI for the night For me it was a matter of pain (I might be dead by now had I a steady supply of opiates years ago…) and my family. I am sorry for your loss and I am deeply moved. .... "If there is evil in this world, does it have mercy?" [link to s328.photobucket.com] <-- some artwork --:~: |
Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 61500979 United States 08/13/2014 10:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Correct. Quoting: Seer777 I am in plain sight. And often predictable. I do that for a reason. I find it offers people comfort. And an easy target. Both. I second this notion for myself…. Yes. Sorry. I became the 'beer wench' for a bit. Being I drink quite slow, I could drive. Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 61500979 United States 08/13/2014 10:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And I add, the threat of having to perhaps learn my mistakes over again has scared me away from suicidal thoughts for the past few years…. Quoting: V²(pi)³³³ The thought of suicide is a powerful solace: by means of it one gets through many a bad night Friedrich Nietzsche Very true. Just entertaining said, brings one around. Perhaps it was because I lacked the emotional depth necessary to panic, or maybe my predicament didn't feel dramatic enough to make me suspicious, but I somehow managed to convince myself that everything was still under my control right up until I noticed myself wishing that nothing loved me so I wouldn't feel obligated to keep existing. It's a strange moment when you realize that you don't want to be alive anymore. If I had feelings, I'm sure I would have felt surprised. I have spent the vast majority of my life actively attempting to survive. Ever since my most distant single-celled ancestor squiggled into existence, there has been an unbroken chain of things that wanted to stick around. Yet there I was, casually wishing that I could stop existing in the same way you'd want to leave an empty room or mute an unbearably repetitive noise. That wasn't the worst part, though. The worst part was deciding to keep going... [link to www.google.com (secure)] Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 61500979 United States 08/13/2014 10:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You know the difference between a victim and a survivor is? A word. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
V²(pi)³³³ User ID: 20063747 Canada 08/13/2014 10:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Correct. Quoting: Seer777 I am in plain sight. And often predictable. I do that for a reason. I find it offers people comfort. And an easy target. Both. I second this notion for myself…. Yes. Sorry. I became the 'beer wench' for a bit. Being I drink quite slow, I could drive. Um…. no problem. …. though as a child I'd often worry a lot when I knew my parents had liquor/alcohol in any capacity, and were driving. Last Edited by pi/3 on 08/13/2014 10:43 PM .... "If there is evil in this world, does it have mercy?" [link to s328.photobucket.com] <-- some artwork --:~: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 57003584 United States 08/13/2014 10:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Everyone has sad stories it seems. (i am no different) The victims to me are the ones who put it out there looking for sympathy because of it. They are setting themselves up to be victimized again. There is a dirty little secret to the human psyche that reasons bad things happen to ppl for a reason. So they must deserve it and are the ones to be victimized repeatedly. Ppl act as if they are afraid it is catching and the best defense is to not think about it and pour it on those already afflicted. |
Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 61500979 United States 08/13/2014 10:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Correct. Quoting: Seer777 I am in plain sight. And often predictable. I do that for a reason. I find it offers people comfort. And an easy target. Both. I second this notion for myself…. Yes. Sorry. I became the 'beer wench' for a bit. Being I drink quite slow, I could drive. Um…. no problem. …. though as a child I'd often worry a lot when I knew my parents had liquor/alcohol in any capacity, and were driving. I never worried about that. With my parents. But I understand why other would. I think they had the same bottle of Kahlua in the cupboard for 5 years. Just that. Until I commandeered it in high school. lol. Went to the fair. What a time that turned out to be. Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 20793638 United States 08/13/2014 10:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was talking about kimchi. Have you eaten it out of the jar? The more fermented, the better. just threw up in my mouth Castor oil is also healthy but....ew. I had a Korean exchange student a couple of years ago. Fed him Well and expect he never had the same feelings for kimchee again. Boy , did he eat....and moaned in extacy while consuming. |
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V²(pi)³³³ User ID: 20063747 Canada 08/13/2014 10:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes. Sorry. I became the 'beer wench' for a bit. Being I drink quite slow, I could drive. Um…. no problem. …. though as a child I'd often worry a lot when I knew my parents had liquor/alcohol in any capacity, and were driving. I never worried about that. With my parents. But I understand why other would. I think they had the same bottle of Kahlua in the cupboard for 5 years. Just that. Until I commandeered it in high school. lol. Went to the fair. What a time that turned out to be. Nice. That is one my mother keeps around as well. .... "If there is evil in this world, does it have mercy?" [link to s328.photobucket.com] <-- some artwork --:~: |
V²(pi)³³³ User ID: 20063747 Canada 08/13/2014 10:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Everyone has sad stories it seems. (i am no different) The victims to me are the ones who put it out there looking for sympathy because of it. Quoting: K.I.A. They are setting themselves up to be victimized again. There is a dirty little secret to the human psyche that reasons bad things happen to ppl for a reason. So they must deserve it and are the ones to be victimized repeatedly. Ppl act as if they are afraid it is catching and the best defense is to not think about it and pour it on those already afflicted. Interesting indeed. .... "If there is evil in this world, does it have mercy?" [link to s328.photobucket.com] <-- some artwork --:~: |
Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 61500979 United States 08/13/2014 11:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Everyone has sad stories it seems. (i am no different) The victims to me are the ones who put it out there looking for sympathy because of it. Quoting: K.I.A. They are setting themselves up to be victimized again. There is a dirty little secret to the human psyche that reasons bad things happen to ppl for a reason. So they must deserve it and are the ones to be victimized repeatedly. Ppl act as if they are afraid it is catching and the best defense is to not think about it and pour it on those already afflicted. Interesting indeed. There is a huge difference between looking for sympathy and attempting to find common ground. Once known, empathy exists ever after. Depression and suicide. Robin Williams was attempting to tell us something. He knew how his suicide would sit on all of us. Peter Pan. Funny Man. We rather know our jesters are tortured. And ignore it. Most suffer in silence. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] And while the king was looking down, the jester stole his thorny crown... Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 57003584 United States 08/13/2014 11:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Everyone has sad stories it seems. (i am no different) The victims to me are the ones who put it out there looking for sympathy because of it. Quoting: K.I.A. They are setting themselves up to be victimized again. There is a dirty little secret to the human psyche that reasons bad things happen to ppl for a reason. So they must deserve it and are the ones to be victimized repeatedly. Ppl act as if they are afraid it is catching and the best defense is to not think about it and pour it on those already afflicted. Interesting indeed. Can you admit its true? It's inverse is true also. It is why lying, scheming and cheating is secretly considered virtuous if it makes you rich and successful and is tolerated and even celebrated when that person does it. But, the one who does the same and gets caught is the devil and should rot in a jail cell with the rest of their kind. Their kind actually being the ones who cant do it without getting in trouble for it. |