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5TV channel went to film the border with Russia, the journalist Oleg Kryshtopa disappeared, not answering the phone, his driver detained
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meanwhile in Italy 24 separatists including leaders of protests arrested in Veneto region, accuse of "terrorism" and "possession of home-made war weapons". Wtf. I was one of you that joked about this Veneto indipendence shitty story but i have to say that many of you here were right, they are fucking serious (i am italian).
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Yap!! scheming It's not a joke... and I am an Italian too!
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Christopher Miller‏@ChristopherJM·11m
#Yanukovych giving live interview on @tvrain [link to tvrain.ru] Guy just keeps popping up.


Maxim Eristavi‏@MaximEristavi·8m
Yanukovych LIVE:
Nationwide secession referendum in Ukraine 1st, presidential elections - after


Maxim Eristavi‏@MaximEristavi·9 mins
Ousted Yanukovych calls Russian takeover of Crimea a 'tragedy - @AP
Confirms that he asked Russia for military help


Maxim Eristavi‏@MaximEristavi·1 min
Yanukovych says that he never gave orders to shoot ppl on Maidan. Sniper fire started from 'opposition' area


Christopher Miller‏@ChristopherJM·8m
#Yanukovych again speaking of "rampant banditry" in #Ukraine in live interview with APTN. You can watch here: [link to tvrain.ru]
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16:17 Armenia plans to sign deal on joining Belarusian-Kazakh-Russian Customs Union in May - foreign minister

[link to www.interfax.com]
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LOLMFAO ..." Putin could invade ukraine in a week"

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH is he fkin high? about 30 countrys in this world could invade ukraine in a week....what kind of bullshit propaganda is this crap...all you read in our german newspapers is " putin is the new hitler" , "who can stop this diktator" .. hahaha its just insane ...
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Getting in is the easy part. It's the leaving with your tail between your legs after years of gorilla warfare that sucks.

Ukraine invasion would eventually be the end of Putin.
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16:16 NATO SUSPENDS COOPERATION WITH RUSSIA ON HELICOPTER, ANTI-DRUG PROJECTS FOR AFGHANISTAN - SOURCE

[link to www.interfax.com]
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Right Sector says it will not turn in its weapons while Ukraine is on the brink of war with Russia
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The US feels the same way.
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meanwhile in Italy 24 separatists including leaders of protests arrested in Veneto region, accuse of "terrorism" and "possession of home-made war weapons". Wtf. I was one of you that joked about this Veneto indipendence shitty story but i have to say that many of you here were right, they are fucking serious (i am italian).
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Yap!! scheming It's not a joke... and I am an Italian too!
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Police says they planned "something" in Piazza San Marco, Venice, and were "ready to fight"... They even built an home made tank lol
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Sberbank, Russia's largest lender with 46% of nation's deposits, says it is stopping giving retail loans in foreign currency.
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meanwhile in Italy 24 separatists including leaders of protests arrested in Veneto region, accuse of "terrorism" and "possession of home-made war weapons". Wtf. I was one of you that joked about this Veneto indipendence shitty story but i have to say that many of you here were right, they are fucking serious (i am italian).
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For all we know, someone was sent to create and recruit this group, then supply this group so they can remove this group. Happened in Oregon, US a few years ago. There are many beach resorts with gun suppliers as souvenir shops in Spain as well.

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Interfax

16:24
Nazarbayev proposes Masimov as candidate for Kazakh prime minister

16:22
YANUKOVYCH: LEGITIMACY OF PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS IN UKRAINE SCHEDULED FOR MAY IS OPEN TO QUESTION

16:19
Lavrov shares concerns about NATO decisions with Kerry

16:17
Armenia plans to sign deal on joining Belarusian-Kazakh-Russian Customs Union in May - foreign minister
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16:16 NATO SUSPENDS COOPERATION WITH RUSSIA ON HELICOPTER, ANTI-DRUG PROJECTS FOR AFGHANISTAN - SOURCE

[link to www.interfax.com]
 Quoting: Newshunter


I wonder if the military committee of NATO can expell the Russians from any country it has brokered deals?

They have done this to individuals:
[link to www.rferl.org]
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AP Interview: Yanukovych Hopes for Crimea's Return

[link to abcnews.go.com]


"Ukraine's ousted president, Viktor Yanukovych, said Wednesday that he was "wrong" to invite Russian troops into Crimea, and vowed to try to persuade Russia to return the Black Sea peninsula."
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#YANUKOVICH: If had opportunity, I would never have allowed #Crimea referendum & separation from #Ukraine
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Mark MacKinnon‏@markmackinnon·39m
Ukraine presidential election frontrunner Porashenko says prospect of NATO membership too divisive for now: [link to en.interfax.com.ua] …


Mark MacKinnon‏@markmackinnon·32m
"A de facto state of emergency" - Russia tightens up anti-protest laws, again: [link to www.themoscowtimes.com] …


Mark MacKinnon‏@markmackinnon·3m
Ukraine moves to grant regions more power (by making local governors elected rather than appointed): [link to au.news.yahoo.com (secure)] …


Mark MacKinnon‏@markmackinnon·1m
Bashar Assad hails Russia for "drawing up a new map for a multipolar world": [link to www.dailystar.com.lb] …
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LBCI News English‏@LBCI_News_EN·40 secs
#NATO’s Rasmussen says would be historic mistake for #Russia to intervene further in #Ukraine-Reuters


Birgit Schmeitzner‏@BSchmeitzner·55 secs
.@AndersFoghR: "Breedlove describes reality on the ground. I hope they have heard the message and deescalate – pull back troops." #Ukraine

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huffy In the Waiting for Doom to come, a good analysis to read.

The US is prepared to plunge Europe into a war with Russia in order for Washington to preserve its hegemony over the transatlantic axis.

The key issues are the prevention of Russia and Europe developing closer trade and political ties - stemming primarily from a vast trade in energy fuels; and, secondly, the survival of the American dollar as the world's reserve currency.

So vital are these issues for continued American hegemony that Washington is prepared to sacrifice millions of lives in a war between Russia and its so-called transatlantic European "ally".

This shocking revelation comes from a former European NATO commander. According to Christof Lehmann, editor of the news and analysis website nsnbc international, the European military officer was given the grim warning by American counterparts in an off-the-record briefing. ...

[link to www.presstv.ir]
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Really?? Quoting the official press of the crazy Iranian mullahs? Wake up and smell your smelly sources!
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...


Yeltsin?
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Hum... Yeltsin???

tantrum

LOL LOL LOL
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oops. i meant khruschev!


my bad. still, i am correct grinning
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hf
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hf airheaded me!
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huffy In the Waiting for Doom to come, a good analysis to read.

The US is prepared to plunge Europe into a war with Russia in order for Washington to preserve its hegemony over the transatlantic axis.

The key issues are the prevention of Russia and Europe developing closer trade and political ties - stemming primarily from a vast trade in energy fuels; and, secondly, the survival of the American dollar as the world's reserve currency.

So vital are these issues for continued American hegemony that Washington is prepared to sacrifice millions of lives in a war between Russia and its so-called transatlantic European "ally".

This shocking revelation comes from a former European NATO commander. According to Christof Lehmann, editor of the news and analysis website nsnbc international, the European military officer was given the grim warning by American counterparts in an off-the-record briefing. ...

[link to www.presstv.ir]
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Really?? Quoting the official press of the crazy Iranian mullahs? Wake up and smell your smelly sources!
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Actually the analysis is from Finian Cunningham and not from PressTV or some mullahs. LOL

grinning
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SERGEI IVANOV: THERE ARE CONCERNS ABOUT REPORTS OF POSSIBLE NATO MILITARY BUILDUP IN MEMBER-STATES IN EASTERN EUROPE -Interfax
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Ukraine Liveblog: Ousted President Yanukovych says the opposition, not the gov't, sniped civilians in February
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Russian GPS-Alternative Satellites Went ‘Illegal/Failure’: Solar Storm Damage or Cyberwar in Space?

Published April 2, 2014

Between 1030 and 0400 UTC last night or early morning, most of Russia’s GLONASS satellites reported “illegal” or “failure” status. As of this post, they do not appear to be back online.

GLONASS is the equivalent of GPS, an alternative global navigation satellite system (GNSS) launched and operated by Russian Aerospace Defense Forces (RADF). Apart from GPS, it is the only other GNSS with global capability.

It’s possible that the outage is related to either a new M-class solar storm — the start of which was reported about 48 hours ago — or recent X-class solar flare on March 29 at approximately 1700 UTC. The latter event caused a short-term radio blackout about one hour after the flare erupted.

But there is conjecture that GLONASS’ outage is human in origin and possibly deliberate. The absence of any reported outage news regarding GPS and other active satellite systems suggests this is quite possible, given the unlikelihood that technology used in GLONASS differs dramatically from that used in other satellite systems.

At least one observer mentioned that a monitoring system tripped at 21:00 UTC — 00:00 GLONASS system time. The odds of a natural event like a solar storm tripping at exactly top of the hour are ridiculously slim, especially since radiation ejected from the new M-class storm may not reach its peak effect on earth for another 24-48 hours.

It’s not clear whether the new GLONASS-M satellite launched March 24th may factor into this situation. There are no English language reports indicating the new satellite was anything but successful upon its release, making it unlikely its integration into the GLONASS network caused today’s outage.

If the outage is based in human activity, the problem may have been caused by:

— an accidental disabling here on earth, though RADF most likely has redundancies to prevent such a large outage;

— deliberate tampering here on earth, though with RADF as operator this seems quite unlikely; or

— deliberate tampering in space, either through scripts sent from earth, or technology installed with inherent flaws.

The last is most likely, and of either scripts sent from earth or the flawed technology scenarios, the former is more likely to cause a widespread outage.

However, if many or all the core operating systems on board the GLONASS satellites had been updated within the last four years – after the discovery of Stuxnet in the wild – it’s not impossible that both hardware and software were compromised with an infection. Nor is it impossible that the same infection was triggered into aggressive action from earth.

Which begs the question: are we in the middle of a cyberwar in space?

[link to www.emptywheel.net]
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Surely a system tripping at the top of the hour are as statistically likely as any other time?
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I think that after today NATO statements we will see "self-defense" forces magically appears in East Ukraine
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Russian Defense Minister = Shoigu:

Nina Ivanovna‏@ninaivanovna·8 hrs
Shoigu: “Kiev's flirtation with the Neo-Nazis & anti-Russian actions can lead to a tragedy in Ukraine and Europe." [link to en.itar-tass.com]
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Russian GPS-Alternative Satellites Went ‘Illegal/Failure’: Solar Storm Damage or Cyberwar in Space?

Published April 2, 2014

Between 1030 and 0400 UTC last night or early morning, most of Russia’s GLONASS satellites reported “illegal” or “failure” status. As of this post, they do not appear to be back online.

GLONASS is the equivalent of GPS, an alternative global navigation satellite system (GNSS) launched and operated by Russian Aerospace Defense Forces (RADF). Apart from GPS, it is the only other GNSS with global capability.

It’s possible that the outage is related to either a new M-class solar storm — the start of which was reported about 48 hours ago — or recent X-class solar flare on March 29 at approximately 1700 UTC. The latter event caused a short-term radio blackout about one hour after the flare erupted.

But there is conjecture that GLONASS’ outage is human in origin and possibly deliberate. The absence of any reported outage news regarding GPS and other active satellite systems suggests this is quite possible, given the unlikelihood that technology used in GLONASS differs dramatically from that used in other satellite systems.

At least one observer mentioned that a monitoring system tripped at 21:00 UTC — 00:00 GLONASS system time. The odds of a natural event like a solar storm tripping at exactly top of the hour are ridiculously slim, especially since radiation ejected from the new M-class storm may not reach its peak effect on earth for another 24-48 hours.

It’s not clear whether the new GLONASS-M satellite launched March 24th may factor into this situation. There are no English language reports indicating the new satellite was anything but successful upon its release, making it unlikely its integration into the GLONASS network caused today’s outage.

If the outage is based in human activity, the problem may have been caused by:

— an accidental disabling here on earth, though RADF most likely has redundancies to prevent such a large outage;

— deliberate tampering here on earth, though with RADF as operator this seems quite unlikely; or

— deliberate tampering in space, either through scripts sent from earth, or technology installed with inherent flaws.

The last is most likely, and of either scripts sent from earth or the flawed technology scenarios, the former is more likely to cause a widespread outage.

However, if many or all the core operating systems on board the GLONASS satellites had been updated within the last four years – after the discovery of Stuxnet in the wild – it’s not impossible that both hardware and software were compromised with an infection. Nor is it impossible that the same infection was triggered into aggressive action from earth.

Which begs the question: are we in the middle of a cyberwar in space?

[link to www.emptywheel.net]
 Quoting: Newshunter


Surely a system tripping at the top of the hour are as statistically likely as any other time?
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Yes you're right, but on the hour the likelihood of it being man made may be greater than the likelihood of it happening accidentally. However, we must also take into account the possibility of software bugs which are in some way related to things happening at scheduled times. For example the system may regularly check for software updates at specific times. Perhaps something went wrong with that update?
It's still suspicious but we can't totally rule out software bugs.
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Massive Russian “ready” force could enter #Ukraine within 12-hours of getting an order, @NATO Sup. Cmdr. tells me: [link to cnn.it]
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Massive Russian “ready” force could enter #Ukraine within 12-hours of getting an order, @NATO Sup. Cmdr. tells me: [link to cnn.it]
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aren't you full of all kinds of good news tounge
For the ACs..there is NOTHING that you can do to me on this platform..you can throw all the insults you want won’t do a thing because IDGAF

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Interfax

16:05 LAVROV, IN PHONE CALL WITH KERRY, EXPRESSES CONCERN OVER DECISIONS OF NATO FOREIGN MINISTERS AND NATO-UKRAINE COMMISSION
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What does this man expect.

Russia invades Crimea
Russia puts 1000's of troops on Ukraine border.
Putin makes speech about reuniting Russians in different countries.
Makes provocative aerial runs at Bulgaria, Finland, Romania and Turkey.
Putin advisors talk of taking back Finland and the Baltic states.

Does he expect the West and NATO to sit there and do nothing?
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Why would he? / RT @michaeldweiss: Top U.S. Commander in Europe: Putin Not Budging [link to complex.foreignpolicy.com] …
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Well that was a nice breather.. while it lasted.





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