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UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387

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So if Russian rises up the white flag, what in substance shall be left from those 3450 pages?
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Headline makes no sense. English please
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WHITE HOUSE BELIEVE's REFERENDUM IN UKRAINE SHOULD BE CANCELLED NOT MERELY POSTPONED
“This is a memo that describes how we’re going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and, finishing off, Iran.” General Wesley Clark
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What took place in Odessa on May 2 is "typical fascism" and "we will pursue the truth", Russian FM Sergey Lavrov said at a ceremony commemorating the fallen heroes of WWII at the Ministry on Wednesday.

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“This is a memo that describes how we’re going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and, finishing off, Iran.” General Wesley Clark
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Ukraine's anti-terror operation continues. Gun battle right now near #Sloviansk between Ukrainian and pro-#Kremlin forces.
“This is a memo that describes how we’re going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and, finishing off, Iran.” General Wesley Clark
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Luis goes off topic too, so he won't mind. Facts are that America refused to recognise Morsi's ousting a coup! The Military did not take over power after Morsi's ouster, we had immediately a interim civilian led government, under constitutional law the Chief of Judicial Court Adly Mansour as President who formed a cabinet. UNLIKE 2011 after Mubarak the Supreme Council of Armed Forces (Military) DID take over and held power for 1 1/2 years til elections (which led to Morsi being "installed"). If they had have recognised it as such their law would have prevented them from providing any more military aid when the military junta took power. They did carry on funding the military. Again, the Military Aid is a bonus for upholding the Camp David agreement with Israel. If they stop paying, the Agreement is out the window. Furthermore, the 2011 was a coup, 2013 was not, to be legally correct.

If they supported MB, why break their own law to fund the very people who ousted Morsi? The Military only upheld the duty of the Army, protect the people and the country, which was under threat by direct violent threats made by MB and their sympathizers.


The US did not want to see Mubarak go...they stalled as long as they could in pursuading him to leave. Mubarak and co got billions from the US partly as payment for the peace treaty with Israel. Do you have proof of the Billions Mubarak got? No you don't. They did want Mubarak out, revolution was long before planned and orchestrated and funded by US and EU. Mubarak had to go as he was in the way and getting too old to fulfill their strategic "strike" with neighboring Libya and Syria. He wouldn't have allowed to happen what did - but Morsi did and even asked for No-Fly Zone in Syria by NATO. Having MB in power in Egypt didn't at all suit Israel. Yes it did, they supported the western and NATO no-fly zone in Libya and Syria, MB directs alot of weapons trafficking and militants training logistics etc. They're their grassroots people, remember? You can't "legally" send money to a known "Terrorist Account" like Al-Qaeda or Al-Nusra. But they could do it via NGO's! The Islamists were to stir up trouble (as they did and we had some close calls) - on border with Israel for them to enter Sinai on pretext of Security and install a "buffer zone". Didn't work til now thanks to people...til now! As for the funding, it should have ceased immediately. Funding to our military which would have made the Camp David Agreement void or to MB? If latter, I agree! And we basically put an end to it by banning the MB, declaring them a Terrorist organization and froze all their assets. That's why everyone is so pissed with us!

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I'm sorry I had to! Hope that clears some things up, otherwise I wouldn't mind if you made another thread about this subject and we can discuss more in depth!

hf

Sorry Luis - but I think it does tie into UA, because we see the same MO being used, at least I see this pattern, that's why I'm so interested in it. As I've said from the beginning.
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So if Russian rises up the white flag, what in substance shall be left from those 3450 pages?
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THIS! They got Crimea...let nazis try to take that back

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Holy carp this is from Syria today but look at it, just look at it!

Assad regime troops headquarters get blown up in Idlib:


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New US space-based kinetic energy weapons. 'rods from God'
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Definately. traveling between 17-22,000 mph has the kinetic energy of around 50 - 250 tons of TNT depending on the weight of the rod.
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But wouldn't it leave trace if it came from space? I am certain it would.
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Holy carp this is from Syria today but look at it, just look at it!

Assad regime troops headquarters get blown up in Idlib:


[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]




New US space-based kinetic energy weapons. 'rods from God'
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35370080


Definately. traveling between 17-22,000 mph has the kinetic energy of around 50 - 250 tons of TNT depending on the weight of the rod.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35406621


But wouldn't it leave trace if it came from space? I am certain it would.
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Good lord they sound like fucking sheep. Baaaaaah Baaaaah Allah hue i'm a crazy jihadi.
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Holy carp this is from Syria today but look at it, just look at it!

Assad regime troops headquarters get blown up in Idlib:


[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]




New US space-based kinetic energy weapons. 'rods from God'
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35370080


Definately. traveling between 17-22,000 mph has the kinetic energy of around 50 - 250 tons of TNT depending on the weight of the rod.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35406621


But wouldn't it leave trace if it came from space? I am certain it would.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57805092


Good lord they sound like fucking sheep. Baaaaaah Baaaaah Allah hue i'm a crazy jihadi.
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What song is this? Beautiful.
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Confirmed.

grasswire ‏@grasswire 3 min
No #Russia troops withdrawal from the border - #Ukraine border service, @NATO and Pentagon.

Then why did Putin say that?
Might it be tomorrow?
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What song is this? Beautiful.
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Seriously. I need to know what is she singing. I understood like 20% and I know its about situation in Ukraine. Got to be new song.
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Confirmed.

grasswire ‏@grasswire 3 min
No #Russia troops withdrawal from the border - #Ukraine border service, @NATO and Pentagon.

Then why did Putin say that?
Might it be tomorrow?
 Quoting: Falter


Well, we all know that Nato and the Pentagon are big liars. It sounds to me like they want to continue to escalate this situation, instead of listening to what Putin has to say. They never have anything else to say, except that the Russian forces have not withdrawn from the border. I have been hearing this for weeks now. It's a little redundant, and down right annoying. I don't see them doing or saying anything to help de-escalate this situation, not one thing!
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Headline makes no sense. English please
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WHITE HOUSE BELIEVE's REFERENDUM IN UKRAINE SHOULD BE CANCELLED NOT MERELY POSTPONED
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Why doesn't the White house just not send 1000 obeservers to Donbass to monitor this Referendum.
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Confirmed.

grasswire ‏@grasswire 3 min
No #Russia troops withdrawal from the border - #Ukraine border service, @NATO and Pentagon.

Then why did Putin say that?
Might it be tomorrow?
 Quoting: Falter


Well, we all know that Nato and the Pentagon are big liars. It sounds to me like they want to continue to escalate this situation, instead of listening to what Putin has to say. They never have anything else to say, except that the Russian forces have not withdrawn from the border. I have been hearing this for weeks now. It's a little redundant, and down right annoying. I don't see them doing or saying anything to help de-escalate this situation, not one thing!
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Couldn't agree more! clappa
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@AJELive 15m
#NATO experts advise Ukraine on nuclear plant safety amid fears of conflict with #Russia
“This is a memo that describes how we’re going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and, finishing off, Iran.” General Wesley Clark
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Confirmed.

grasswire ‏@grasswire 3 min
No #Russia troops withdrawal from the border - #Ukraine border service, @NATO and Pentagon.

Then why did Putin say that?
Might it be tomorrow?
 Quoting: Falter


Well, we all know that Nato and the Pentagon are big liars. It sounds to me like they want to continue to escalate this situation, instead of listening to what Putin has to say. They never have anything else to say, except that the Russian forces have not withdrawn from the border. I have been hearing this for weeks now. It's a little redundant, and down right annoying. I don't see them doing or saying anything to help de-escalate this situation, not one thing!
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Couldn't agree more! clappa
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Me too!
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Headline makes no sense. English please
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WHITE HOUSE BELIEVE's REFERENDUM IN UKRAINE SHOULD BE CANCELLED NOT MERELY POSTPONED
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Why doesn't the White house just not send 1000 obeservers to Donbass to monitor this Referendum.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57737657

The White House does not want a referendum if the people who would be voting in the referendum would vote in a way opposite to America's interests.

If the people want something that America does not wish them to have then America does not wish them to have a vote on the subject. It really is as simple as that.
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#NATO experts advise Ukraine on nuclear plant safety amid fears of conflict with #Russia
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Let's hope it is not people from Westinghouse. They already fcuked up one of Ukraine's Russian built reactors a few years back.
Hopefully it will be French experts, they know what they are doing.

It's a gratuitous insult to the professionalism of Rosatom though. That will not buy them any favors when it comes to begging to be rescued from the next nuclear reactor screw-up.

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#NATO experts advise Ukraine on nuclear plant safety amid fears of conflict with #Russia
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Let's hope it is not people from Westinghouse. They already fcuked up one of Ukraine's Russian built reactors a few years back.
Hopefully it will be French experts, they know what they are doing.
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But the dishwashers they sell here are very good quality

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#NATO experts advise Ukraine on nuclear plant safety amid fears of conflict with #Russia
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plant safety my ass. Chernobyl area is gonna get used as a nuclear waste dump. Contracts are already signed.
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I don't think Belarus can allow that to happen. It practically sits astride their border. They could be forced to physically put a stop to it. On the edge of an act of war against Belarus. At a minimum reprisals are certain. Ukraine will be made to suffer if this is attempted.
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Look how Russkies are organized in Donetsk. Pretty impresive all kinds of age groups among men.

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Ukraine Reporter‏@StateOfUkraine·5 mins
#Putin: We're being told that our forces on #Ukraine border are concern. We have withdrawn them.
see body language


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Body language is one thing, but pay attetion to his shaking unstable vioce. It looks like Putin is only sane preson in Russia and is under lot of pressure. In connection with SBU released taped conversation he seems to be blackmailed by people around him and tries to rebel against them.
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SBU tapes could be easily faked. Its not Nuland voice or some PM that everyone knows.
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Either putin knows his Big Bluff has failed and he is retreating from the border as its a total waste to have troops there if the Bluff has been called.
Or he is trying to hold of until after the may 9th parade ? the may 9th parade will be a direct show of force, Putin will have everything out for display. I feel he will wait till after the 9th until he shows his true cards.
It will be "look what i have" then it may be a new push on the border.
I think there is no doubt a false flag of some sort will be the fuse. Putin simply cant loose Ukraine to the west, it spells the end for Russia.
America and Nato want and need war, and will make it happen. Russia wants to take Ukraine via masked seperatists like he did in crimea its blatantly obvious. Trouble is his bluff has been called out. The west have supplied the money and back bone the Ukraine junta needed. And now russias on the back foot as the Bluff has failed. Putin now has to deal with a
Ukraine military that is no longer fearful of a Russian invasion. The trouble with a Bluff is once it falls through you look incredibly weak. And now with putin saying he thinks the election is a good idea and sayin hes pulling troops back and suggesting postponing the referendum? well either he is trying to look like a peace maker so when the false flag happens he can go in looking like the good guy. Or he has been given a nod from the oligarchs to pull back. I truely feel that a false flag is planned and he is trying to look like he is the good guy by backing off until may the 9th. eg You dont want all your military on parade and then be attacked do you.
OR DO YOU? Is it possible a false flag on may 9th at the military parade could be the fuse Russia needs? what better day to blow up something russian to get the people behind an invasion?
REMEMBER YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST ON GLP
911 worked for america. Could May the 9th be Russias 911
Putin is not backing down for no reason.
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wow I've been out all day. That was interesting.
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Ukraine is ready for 10 days to repay all debts to the Russian Federation for the gas if its price will be set at 268.5 dollars per thousand cubic meters

(this is half the market price)

[link to economics.unian.net]
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If you are so well informed about market prices, please, discover us so called market price for Germany. The latter has more or less the same share as Ukraine in GAZPROM sales. So, deducting an average transit cost to Germany through Ukraine and 1). Slovakia and Austria, 2). Slovakia and Czech Republic, 3). Slovalia, Czech Republic and Poland, 4). Belarus and Poland, we will see whether it's a half price or not. Hope this time you will be able to provide us with the info from reliable sources.
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Correction:
an average transit cost to Germany through Ukraine and 1). Slovakia and Austria, 2). Slovakia and Czech Republic, 3). Slovalia, Czech Republic and Poland, and to Germany through Belarus and Poland.
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wait what? Germany has northstream direct line to russia that doesn't cross other countries. And they have a juicy deal yes because they are Germany and BFF with Russia. Eastern EU countries pay 500USD+
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As it was expected you cand not provide us with the requested data. FYI: according to GAZPROM Export data an average price to Europe in 2013 was $380. This is still not to Germany the price to which you are hiding from us :) So, next time, please, leave your speculations with yourselves.

As for Nord Stream, actually it is used for less than 39% - in 2013 GAZPROM supplied through N.S. about 21 bln. m3. Well, the transit by N.S. is shorter than through Ukraine, but actual rate is at least 2 times higher because GAZPROM has to pay transit to sharehoders for 100% pipeline capacity. Theoretically at 100% pipeline throughput it could look a little bit more attractive, however, this is €8.8 bln. Euro investment (or about $12 bln. at actual FX rate), so besides necessity to repay a loan GAZPROM is bearing borrowing and maintenance costs. And do you call all this a juicy deal ? Nice ! N.S. was simply a political project which aslo allows Kremlin-Gazprom gang to steal money from budget and therefore from citizens.





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