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UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387

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@BradCabana: BREAKING CANADA:
Canada contemplates hand over to #Ukraine 20 CF-18A fighter jets, if necessary for free + training #cdnpoli #wtf
 Quoting: Lyonesse


Canada really has it out for Russia. Why?
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Canada is NATO + Canada has the largest Ukrainian population outside of Ukraine.
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What does it say?
I can't seem to open the link with my phone.
 Quoting: Falter 58276109


Good day.

I would like to make a short statement with respect to what is happening around Slavyansk. With respect to what is happening here. And, well, make an appeal, if you will.

Yesterday, the enemy completely surrounded Nikolayevka. The enemy shelled the city in the fiercest possible way, using all types of weapons. Using heavy MLRS systems, howitzers, mortars, tanks, APCs. The destruction is enormous. It is simply impossible to determine the numbers of casualties, because nothing works in the city now.

Our units that are in Nikolayevka at this moment continue the battle in complete encirclement. We have no communications with them.

Nikolayevka has been completely cut off from Slavyansk. At this very moment, a large enemy column of armoured vehicles is moving toward Semyonovka from the south, along the Kharkov-Rostov highway. At the same time, the enemy is continuing uninterrupted artillery shelling of the city and of Semyonovka. Yesterday, the Nikolayevka Thermal Power Plant was destroyed to the ground and set on fire.

To put it bluntly, we are dealing here with unconcealed genocide. In other words, to break the resistance of the Militia, the enemy is using all the available types of weaponry against the civilian population. Naturally, seeing the destruction and the death of the civilian population, militiamen are starting to lose the will to continue fighting.

I would like to say to you that, in Slavyansk, there is not one Chechen, not one mercenary. There is not a single person here who did not come of their own good will. If, before, 90% of the fighters were local, now the ratio is 95%. Out of the entire garrison, there is maybe several dozen people who came from Russia. The majority, the overwhelming majority are citizens of Ukraine. Among them, the overwhelming majority are Donbass residents. These are people who consciously took up arms to defend their homes, their families, their Motherland. To defend their language and their culture. To defend Russia. Because these people never separated from her. They consider themselves Russian. They want to live in Russia.

This right was taken from them a long time ago. And now, when they tried to restore this right, Russia does not want to help them reunite with their people, with their big Russian family.

It is difficult to understand and accept, that, over three months (it will soon be three months since we arrived in Slavyansk to help the local population defend their rights), that, over these three months, no real help has arrived.

I do not claim that Russia does not help. A huge stream of humanitarian cargo, equipment, uniforms, comes to us through private channels. But, that, which we desperately need, does not, at this time, arrive.

Please understand, that even if we get two tanks, four, even ten tanks, five-six artillery pieces, even if a plane flies here once, this will have no impact whatsoever. Over the course of the ceasefire, the Ukrainian army performed full mobilization and concentration of forces.

Over sixty heavy artillery pieces are pointed at Semyonovka and at Slavyansk at this time. At Kramatorsk. Two dozen MLRS systems, including Grad, Uragan and Smerch. Heavy mortars. All of them are pointed here. The enemy has so much ammunition – I did not see so much in Chechnya. In our time, we did not have so many shells. And the entire set of this artillery is shelling us without a stop. The supply columns are coming in continuously. They are transferring in more equipment.

Kharkov diligently repairs a dozen and a half armoured vehicles a day. We hit one or two armoured vehicles a day. No more than that. The enemy is able to grow its forces faster than it expends them. No just faster – much faster.

If Russia is not able to secure an immediate termination of fire and the execution of a truce, or if it does not step in with its armed force to protect us, to protect the Russian people that reside here, who are a part of the Russian nation, we will be exterminated. We will be exterminated in the course of a week, two weeks at most. And Slavyansk will be the first to be exterminated, together with its still-numerous population. Over thirty thousand civilians are still left here.

I am being asked to take on the responsibility for their death. And for the death of the Militia brigade under my command. We are ready to fight. We are ready to die. But we do not want to die senselessly, burying beneath the ruins of the city those people who believed in us.

Some believe that I am panicking, that I not ok. Yes, I am not ok. Every day, my soldiers are dying. The hospitals are overflowing with wounded. It is very difficult to see children without legs, torn apart by exploding shells.

We will continue to fight. But we desperately need help.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59904699

NOT A FUCKING WORD ON WESTERN MEDIA! MONSTERS!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59908349


Fucking excuse me?? It's a fucking civil war in eastern Ukraine you moran, what do you expect western media to do?? I'm fairly certain after wars in Afghanistan/Iraq, the american population is wearing thin from spending billions of dollars and losing countless lives over the previous two wars, they are not so eager to get involved in another.

Further, all the shills who claim that NATO/CIA is responsible for this are full of shit. This is half the population wanting to be part of Russia and the other half wanting to be part of the EU. IT IS THAT SIMPLE FOLKS. These people are ready to die for either cause.

The important lesson PUTIN needs to take away from this, is do not throw rocks at others when you live in a glass house yourself!

Putin is now the one who looks like a fool, because he knows any incursion into Ukrainian territory will result in further sanctions from the west, which will further isolate the Russian economy.
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hesrightclappa

These pro-Putin lot are delusional to the point of detached hilarity. They all come on here and circle-jerk one another to the point where they've convinced themselves they are all brilliant, provide all the solutions, and then become hostile when anyone challenges their false reality, built upon false premises. Gypsy-Clown logic at it's finest.
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@gbazov: #BREAKING - #Strelkov's signature FORGED on a "demobilization of DPR Militia" Order. DO NOT BELIEVE - DISINFO. PLZ RT. #UKRAINE #NOVOROSSIYA
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@BradCabana: “@lennutrajektoor: Poroshenko made an official announcement no more unilateral ceasefire. #Ukraine #Russia #cdnpoli
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Poroshenko made an official announcement no more unilateral ceasefire. #Ukraine #ATO #PlanKillThemAll
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Ukraine Reporter ‏@StateOfUkraine 1m

President Poroshenko may feel #Ukraine is winning because he just declared that there will be no more unilateral Ukrainian ceasefires

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18:53 Rosneft board chairman reduces stake in oil co

19:09 Dollar, euro strengthen growth against ruble in evening trading Friday

19:13 Russia electricity exports fall 37% to $293 mln in Jan-May - customs
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Russia is sideways hard!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29189071

It cannot be! Putin is the master chess player. He is the master strategist. How is it possible such a brilliant well thought-out man, in the span of 6 months can bring the mighty Russian economy to it knees. Putin backers the world over said American sanctions cannot work, they said Russia in not Iran. They said America would be begging Putin for relief.
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“@Catherina_News: 2hrs- TT @a_borodai: (Boroday:) #Donetsk airport suffered severe damage. Fuel depot burning.” #cdnpoli #Ukraine #Russia
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Supported by the fact that there are only two flights scheduled to arrive at Donetsk airport, in a few hours.
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@BradCabana: BREAKING CANADA:
Canada contemplates hand over to #Ukraine 20 CF-18A fighter jets, if necessary for free + training #cdnpoli #wtf
 Quoting: Lyonesse


"As of 2013, operating 258 manned aircraft and 9 UAVs"

So that's like 7.75% of Canada's total AF. More if you only look at their F-18s.
 Quoting: The Årtist


Canada is going to the F-35, so their military-industrial complex looks forward to/benefits from getting rid of the CF-18's when and where it can
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56926887


F-35 is grounded due to an engine problem. It's almost 10 years behind schedule and hundreds of billions over budget. Also many designers and military "experts" (notice that's in quotes) suggest the F-35 is a terrible aircraft and should be shelved.
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@BradCabana: BREAKING CANADA:
Canada contemplates hand over to #Ukraine 20 CF-18A fighter jets, if necessary for free + training #cdnpoli #wtf
 Quoting: Lyonesse


"As of 2013, operating 258 manned aircraft and 9 UAVs"

So that's like 7.75% of Canada's total AF. More if you only look at their F-18s.
 Quoting: The Årtist


Canada is going to the F-35, so their military-industrial complex looks forward to/benefits from getting rid of the CF-18's when and where it can
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56926887


There hasn't been a deal yet and there was an F-35 engine fire reported yesterday. It's been quite the issue in the news.
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@BradCabana: BREAKING CANADA:
Canada contemplates hand over to #Ukraine 20 CF-18A fighter jets, if necessary for free + training #cdnpoli #wtf
 Quoting: Lyonesse


"As of 2013, operating 258 manned aircraft and 9 UAVs"

So that's like 7.75% of Canada's total AF. More if you only look at their F-18s.
 Quoting: The Årtist


Canada is going to the F-35, so their military-industrial complex looks forward to/benefits from getting rid of the CF-18's when and where it can
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Ukraine will get f35s at some point, but hornets are nice planes.
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ennutrajektoor ‏@lennutrajektoor 2m

Poroshenko made an official announcement no more unilateral ceasefire. #Ukraine #ATO #PlanKillThemAll
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Hey Russian shill why are you retweeting an Estonian twitter account? Or you didnt know that "lennutrajektoor" is an Estonian?
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Ukraine will get f35s at some point, but hornets are nice planes.
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epiclol

I hope this was an instance of lapsus línguae, and you meant to say Canada instead of the Ukraine...
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Ukraine will get f35s at some point, but hornets are nice planes.
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epiclol

I hope this was an instance of lapsus línguae, and you meant to say Canada instead of the Ukraine...
 Quoting: N.O.S. (nli) 59849624


Let Ukraine get the F18s. Russia will eventually see the government in Kiev topple in its favour and add some nice f18s to its own fleet.
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@BradCabana: BREAKING #Ukraine forces using banned cluster munitions - Russian Foreign Ministry. #Russia #UN #cdnpoli
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BREAKING #Ukraine forces using banned cluster munitions - Russian Foreign Ministry. #Russia #UN #cdnpoli
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"They continued fighting between paramilitary government forces and pro-Russian separatists in eastern Ukraine could lead to new EU sanctions against Russia. The Finnish newly-appointed Prime Minister Alexander Stubb now warning that such a decision would have negative consequences for the Finnish economy."
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Poroshenko made an official announcement no more unilateral ceasefire. #Ukraine #ATO #PlanKillThemAll
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Hey Russian shill why are you retweeting an Estonian twitter account? Or you didnt know that "lennutrajektoor" is an Estonian?
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To be honest i don't give a shit.
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ennutrajektoor ‏@lennutrajektoor 2m

Poroshenko made an official announcement no more unilateral ceasefire. #Ukraine #ATO #PlanKillThemAll
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Hey Russian shill why are you retweeting an Estonian twitter account? Or you didnt know that "lennutrajektoor" is an Estonian?
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You're trashing him just for quoting a source?
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@BradCabana: “@HaSHeM_AdHaM: Plan for the Pacification of eastern #Ukraine. Leaked RAND Document [link to twitter.com (secure)] #cdnpoli #Russia #UN

Fake or not?
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Let Ukraine get the F18s. Russia will eventually see the government in Kiev topple in its favour and add some nice f18s to its own fleet.
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Agree - let's give them nukes just to see what will happen. Of course everything in the name of freedom and democracy...
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@BradCabana: BREAKING CANADA:
Canada contemplates hand over to #Ukraine 20 CF-18A fighter jets, if necessary for free + training #cdnpoli #wtf
 Quoting: Lyonesse


"As of 2013, operating 258 manned aircraft and 9 UAVs"

So that's like 7.75% of Canada's total AF. More if you only look at their F-18s.
 Quoting: The Årtist


Canada is going to the F-35, so their military-industrial complex looks forward to/benefits from getting rid of the CF-18's when and where it can
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56926887


F-35 is grounded due to an engine problem. It's almost 10 years behind schedule and hundreds of billions over budget. Also many designers and military "experts" (notice that's in quotes) suggest the F-35 is a terrible aircraft and should be shelved.
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Temporary grounded-yes. Everything else out-dated information and false. Before you go into a cut and paste frenzy trying to discredit my comments, I'll post a link to a discusssion regarding the F-35, as recent as this April past, by real and credible people who actually work or participate in the military fixed-wing aircraft industry.
[link to www.airliners.net]

Russia's 5th generation prototype just exploded on the runway last month. China is still testing their prototype 5th generation aircraft. Americans have 200 F-22s and F-35, dogged by multiple issues early-on and cost overruns, is a superior aircraft. Vectored exhaust nozzle on a stealth-grade jet is the most complex air design issue ever dealt with in human aviation history, including ICBMs. The American's solved it and now they need to tweak it. F-35 is designed to degrade and defeat Chinese and Russian A2/AD-and it will do just that.
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Poroshenko made an official announcement no more unilateral ceasefire. #Ukraine #ATO #PlanKillThemAll
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Hey Russian shill why are you retweeting an Estonian twitter account? Or you didnt know that "lennutrajektoor" is an Estonian?
 Quoting: Skizy


You're trashing him just for quoting a source?
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No I just helped him out so he no longer unknowingly quotes a Nazi fascist.
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Poroshenko made an official announcement no more unilateral ceasefire. #Ukraine #ATO #PlanKillThemAll
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Hey Russian shill why are you retweeting an Estonian twitter account? Or you didnt know that "lennutrajektoor" is an Estonian?
 Quoting: Skizy


You're trashing him just for quoting a source?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59855712


No I just helped him out so he no longer unknowingly quotes a Nazi fascist.
 Quoting: Skizy


He just quotes a person/news agency. I don't see the guy as radical as categorizing the sources of information as "kosher" and "tref".
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Ukraine Reporter ‏@StateOfUkraine 52s

We're a bit skeptical, but these are allegedly Strelkov's orders for RU fighters in Donetsk #Ukraine to lay down arms

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Obvious fake, hahahaha
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Hey Russian shill why are you retweeting an Estonian twitter account? Or you didnt know that "lennutrajektoor" is an Estonian?
 Quoting: Skizy


You're trashing him just for quoting a source?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59855712


No I just helped him out so he no longer unknowingly quotes a Nazi fascist.
 Quoting: Skizy


He just quotes a person/news agency. I don't see the guy as radical as categorizing the sources of information as "kosher" and "tref".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59855712


I just helped him out. He was unaware that he was quoting a Nazi fascist.
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You're trashing him just for quoting a source?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59855712


No I just helped him out so he no longer unknowingly quotes a Nazi fascist.
 Quoting: Skizy


He just quotes a person/news agency. I don't see the guy as radical as categorizing the sources of information as "kosher" and "tref".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59855712


I just helped him out. He was unaware that he was quoting a Nazi fascist.
 Quoting: Skizy


i don't believe the Ukrainians are fascists, nor their supporters try again retard.

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No I just helped him out so he no longer unknowingly quotes a Nazi fascist.
 Quoting: Skizy


He just quotes a person/news agency. I don't see the guy as radical as categorizing the sources of information as "kosher" and "tref".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59855712


I just helped him out. He was unaware that he was quoting a Nazi fascist.
 Quoting: Skizy


i don't believe the Ukrainians are fascists, nor their supporters try again retard.
 Quoting: Anti-Banderist


Hey retard, I was referring to you quoting "lennutrajektoor", who is an Estonian.
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He just quotes a person/news agency. I don't see the guy as radical as categorizing the sources of information as "kosher" and "tref".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59855712


I just helped him out. He was unaware that he was quoting a Nazi fascist.
 Quoting: Skizy


i don't believe the Ukrainians are fascists, nor their supporters try again retard.
 Quoting: Anti-Banderist


Hey retard, I was referring to you quoting "lennutrajektoor", who is an Estonian.
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"Nor their supporters". Reading comprehension. You need it.
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He just quotes a person/news agency. I don't see the guy as radical as categorizing the sources of information as "kosher" and "tref".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59855712


I just helped him out. He was unaware that he was quoting a Nazi fascist.
 Quoting: Skizy


i don't believe the Ukrainians are fascists, nor their supporters try again retard.
 Quoting: Anti-Banderist


Hey retard, I was referring to you quoting "lennutrajektoor", who is an Estonian.
 Quoting: Skizy


So? I guess he's fine with the Estonian nation. Haven't seen him judging people by their nationality.





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