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DarkFounder User ID: 48201551 Czechia 04/09/2014 08:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Ukraine stops pumping Russian gas!!! ..is that real thing? Does it mean that gas will not flow into Europe? Quoting: DarkFounder This could be an excuse for Russia to intervene. The narrative that Russia could weave might go something like this: Ukraine is a rogue state that is causing chaos for both Russia and Europe. By refusing to pump the gas they have made themselves an enemy of everyone. The citizens of Europe will be happy once Russia interferes and gets the gas running again. Of course, it's possible that Russia set up Ukraine and is just using this event to weave a narrative which makes them look like the heroes. Is that confirmed somewhere? I am unable to find it. Also I have only read that they (UKR) only missed the payment. See ya! Also my English could be worse than real SHTF. "The truth will set you free, but first it will piss you off." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56446610 United Kingdom 04/09/2014 08:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56446610 I'm absolutely pro-russian and hoping those neo Nazi scum get what's coming to them. Strategically Russia cannot allow NATO involvement with Ukraine. are you calling for the extermination of Ukrainian culture and people? You know there are plenty of pro - Ukrainian Russians. Putin can be right and wrong at the same time. right to resist Zionists, wrong to stomp on Ukraine. Ukrainians as usual have no strong ally as their land is too hot. I was referring to the scum who beat office officials into resignation. I was referring to the scum who were slapping around office workers. I was referring to the scum who charge on elderly politicians to prevent them from speaking cause they disagree with what he is saying. I was referring to the scum who deface WWII monuments. Unless the entire nation of Ukraine is neo Nazi your interpretation of my comment says more about your state of mind than about me. You sound reasonable at first glance but really you are just spouting Kremlin anti-Ukrainian propaganda. [link to www.nytimes.com] If you had any understanding of the Ukrainian blood (not to mention Russian blood) that Soviets spilt before and after WWII, you would not be so concerned about WWII monuments being defaced, unless you are NKVD progeny. Putin should admit Soviet crimes and neutralise 90% of the discord - but he is too much of a Stalinist. I am not so naive to believe one article or news outlet over another. But they say a picture speaks a thousand words and the examples i posted, I've seen not heard. Nowhere did I mention anti Semitism. It is accepted the current Ukrainian authorities got where they are because of the right sector (an embarrassment now I believe). There is little doubt in my mind of the fascist nature in which they operate, soviet\ukranian history withstanding, I will never be on the side of fascists. |
Newshunter User ID: 22884594 United States 04/09/2014 08:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Bat Man‏@vonFalkenhorst·26 mins Gen. #Breedlove's written testimony to Senate and House Armed Services Committees on posture of #troops in #Europe [link to www.eucom.mil] … |
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Newshunter User ID: 22884594 United States 04/09/2014 08:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 #NATO strengthens #Baltic defence - 12 fighter jets from #PL #UK and #DK will guard the Baltic airspace as of May [link to www.lithuaniatribune.com] |
Tpotleoz User ID: 56532054 Australia 04/09/2014 08:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... Quoting: Tpotleoz are you calling for the extermination of Ukrainian culture and people? You know there are plenty of pro - Ukrainian Russians. Putin can be right and wrong at the same time. right to resist Zionists, wrong to stomp on Ukraine. Ukrainians as usual have no strong ally as their land is too hot. I was referring to the scum who beat office officials into resignation. I was referring to the scum who were slapping around office workers. I was referring to the scum who charge on elderly politicians to prevent them from speaking cause they disagree with what he is saying. I was referring to the scum who deface WWII monuments. Unless the entire nation of Ukraine is neo Nazi your interpretation of my comment says more about your state of mind than about me. You sound reasonable at first glance but really you are just spouting Kremlin anti-Ukrainian propaganda. [link to www.nytimes.com] If you had any understanding of the Ukrainian blood (not to mention Russian blood) that Soviets spilt before and after WWII, you would not be so concerned about WWII monuments being defaced, unless you are NKVD progeny. Putin should admit Soviet crimes and neutralise 90% of the discord - but he is too much of a Stalinist. I am not so naive to believe one article or news outlet over another. But they say a picture speaks a thousand words and the examples i posted, I've seen not heard. Nowhere did I mention anti Semitism. It is accepted the current Ukrainian authorities got where they are because of the right sector (an embarrassment now I believe). There is little doubt in my mind of the fascist nature in which they operate, soviet\ukranian history withstanding, I will never be on the side of fascists. I doubt you could define what a fascist is without going to wikipedia first. Commies killed far more people than fascists. Which death cult do you prefer? Eat the Reds |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56446610 United Kingdom 04/09/2014 08:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56446610 I was referring to the scum who beat office officials into resignation. I was referring to the scum who were slapping around office workers. I was referring to the scum who charge on elderly politicians to prevent them from speaking cause they disagree with what he is saying. I was referring to the scum who deface WWII monuments. Unless the entire nation of Ukraine is neo Nazi your interpretation of my comment says more about your state of mind than about me. You sound reasonable at first glance but really you are just spouting Kremlin anti-Ukrainian propaganda. [link to www.nytimes.com] If you had any understanding of the Ukrainian blood (not to mention Russian blood) that Soviets spilt before and after WWII, you would not be so concerned about WWII monuments being defaced, unless you are NKVD progeny. Putin should admit Soviet crimes and neutralise 90% of the discord - but he is too much of a Stalinist. I am not so naive to believe one article or news outlet over another. But they say a picture speaks a thousand words and the examples i posted, I've seen not heard. Nowhere did I mention anti Semitism. It is accepted the current Ukrainian authorities got where they are because of the right sector (an embarrassment now I believe). There is little doubt in my mind of the fascist nature in which they operate, soviet\ukranian history withstanding, I will never be on the side of fascists. I doubt you could define what a fascist is without going to wikipedia first. Commies killed far more people than fascists. Which death cult do you prefer? Insults - excellent form of debate :) |
Newshunter User ID: 22884594 United States 04/09/2014 08:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 John Schindler‏@20committee·5 mins Moscow tells Kyiv that if it makes efforts to enforce sovereignty in East #Ukraine, Kremlin will cause "civil war": [link to www.cnn.com] … |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 56593867 Hong Kong 04/09/2014 08:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 MOSCOW, April 9 (RIA Novosti), Daria Chernyshova – American warships in the Black Sea are likely delivering armaments for the rusting Ukrainian military, according to Vadim Kozyulin, a senior research fellow at the Russian Center for Policy Studies. “I suspect these warships are delivering armaments for the Ukrainian military, as it remains in a poor technical and financial condition,” Kozyulin told RIA Novosti on Wednesday, a day before a second US destroyer was scheduled to enter the Black Sea. “The US is probably delivering communication equipment and reconnaissance assets to the Ukrainian military,” Kozyulin said. [link to en.ria.ru] |
Tpotleoz User ID: 56532054 Australia 04/09/2014 08:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... Quoting: Tpotleoz You sound reasonable at first glance but really you are just spouting Kremlin anti-Ukrainian propaganda. [link to www.nytimes.com] If you had any understanding of the Ukrainian blood (not to mention Russian blood) that Soviets spilt before and after WWII, you would not be so concerned about WWII monuments being defaced, unless you are NKVD progeny. Putin should admit Soviet crimes and neutralise 90% of the discord - but he is too much of a Stalinist. I am not so naive to believe one article or news outlet over another. But they say a picture speaks a thousand words and the examples i posted, I've seen not heard. Nowhere did I mention anti Semitism. It is accepted the current Ukrainian authorities got where they are because of the right sector (an embarrassment now I believe). There is little doubt in my mind of the fascist nature in which they operate, soviet\ukranian history withstanding, I will never be on the side of fascists. I doubt you could define what a fascist is without going to wikipedia first. Commies killed far more people than fascists. Which death cult do you prefer? Insults - excellent form of debate :) Agreed, not the best form of debate. Fascism is inaccurate to describe nationalists. Maybe if they wanted to scrap the constitution and do away with elections it would be accurate, I don't think anyone has suggested that. So if you use the word fascist to describe them you are just repeating the Kremlin lies and denying legitimate Ukrainian rights to self determination. Putin and co. don't believe Ukraine is even a country. Truth is Russia is just an offshoot of Ukrainian-Byszantine culture which is far older. The Russians were raped by the kosher NKVD and have not recovered. They still think of Soviet times as the glory days. At least Ukrainians can admit the horrors of the 20th century. Eat the Reds |
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Lime Flavoured Redux User ID: 56541856 United Kingdom 04/09/2014 08:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 MOSCOW, April 9 (RIA Novosti), Daria Chernyshova – American warships in the Black Sea are likely delivering armaments for the rusting Ukrainian military, according to Vadim Kozyulin, a senior research fellow at the Russian Center for Policy Studies. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56593867 “I suspect these warships are delivering armaments for the Ukrainian military, as it remains in a poor technical and financial condition,” Kozyulin told RIA Novosti on Wednesday, a day before a second US destroyer was scheduled to enter the Black Sea. “The US is probably delivering communication equipment and reconnaissance assets to the Ukrainian military,” Kozyulin said. [link to en.ria.ru] That seems plausible certainly. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 56446610 United Kingdom 04/09/2014 08:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56446610 I am not so naive to believe one article or news outlet over another. But they say a picture speaks a thousand words and the examples i posted, I've seen not heard. Nowhere did I mention anti Semitism. It is accepted the current Ukrainian authorities got where they are because of the right sector (an embarrassment now I believe). There is little doubt in my mind of the fascist nature in which they operate, soviet\ukranian history withstanding, I will never be on the side of fascists. I doubt you could define what a fascist is without going to wikipedia first. Commies killed far more people than fascists. Which death cult do you prefer? Insults - excellent form of debate :) Agreed, not the best form of debate. Fascism is inaccurate to describe nationalists. Maybe if they wanted to scrap the constitution and do away with elections it would be accurate, I don't think anyone has suggested that. So if you use the word fascist to describe them you are just repeating the Kremlin lies and denying legitimate Ukrainian rights to self determination. Putin and co. don't believe Ukraine is even a country. Truth is Russia is just an offshoot of Ukrainian-Byszantine culture which is far older. The Russians were raped by the kosher NKVD and have not recovered. They still think of Soviet times as the glory days. At least Ukrainians can admit the horrors of the 20th century. I too am a nationalist and believe in the right of self determination of all peoples including Ukraine. How would you describe the right sector and their methods if not fascist? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 56598638 Croatia 04/09/2014 08:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... Quoting: Tpotleoz are you calling for the extermination of Ukrainian culture and people? You know there are plenty of pro - Ukrainian Russians. Putin can be right and wrong at the same time. right to resist Zionists, wrong to stomp on Ukraine. Ukrainians as usual have no strong ally as their land is too hot. I was referring to the scum who beat office officials into resignation. I was referring to the scum who were slapping around office workers. I was referring to the scum who charge on elderly politicians to prevent them from speaking cause they disagree with what he is saying. I was referring to the scum who deface WWII monuments. Unless the entire nation of Ukraine is neo Nazi your interpretation of my comment says more about your state of mind than about me. You sound reasonable at first glance but really you are just spouting Kremlin anti-Ukrainian propaganda. [link to www.nytimes.com] If you had any understanding of the Ukrainian blood (not to mention Russian blood) that Soviets spilt before and after WWII, you would not be so concerned about WWII monuments being defaced, unless you are NKVD progeny. Putin should admit Soviet crimes and neutralise 90% of the discord - but he is too much of a Stalinist. I am not so naive to believe one article or news outlet over another. But they say a picture speaks a thousand words and the examples i posted, I've seen not heard. Nowhere did I mention anti Semitism. It is accepted the current Ukrainian authorities got where they are because of the right sector (an embarrassment now I believe). There is little doubt in my mind of the fascist nature in which they operate, soviet\ukranian history withstanding, I will never be on the side of fascists. |
Newshunter User ID: 22884594 United States 04/09/2014 08:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 PUTIN ORDERS MINISTER OF TRADE AND INDUSTRY MANTUROV TO CARRY OUT ALL AGREEMENTS WITH UKRAINE IN DISCIPLINED MANNER BUT BE READY FOR IMPORT SUBSTITUTION Putin hopes Kyiv to refrain from irreversible decisions PUTIN: EUROPE RECOGNIZES NEW KYIV AUTHORITIES BUT DOES NOT GIVE A DOLLAR TO SUPPORT UKRAINE, RUSSIA CONTINUES SUPPORTING UKRAINE BUT THIS SITUATION CAN NOT LAST FOREVER PUTIN: RUSSIA TO APPLY EVERY POSSIBILITY EMANATING FROM GAS CONTRACT, IF UKRAINE DOES NOT AGREE TO CONSULTATIONS Russia up against non-constructive approach due to Ukraine situation at talks in Brussels - Ulyukayev |
Newshunter User ID: 22884594 United States 04/09/2014 09:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Jim Sciutto@jimsciutto · 6m ago Exclusive: Def. Sec. Hagel tells @CNN NATO preparing "new & additional options" to respond to Russian military moves near #Ukraine Jim Sciutto‏@jimsciutto·30s Exclusive: Def. Sec. Hagel to @cnn on #Ukraine "We are always vigilant. We are always looking at options we need to take" Last Edited by Newshunter on 04/09/2014 09:03 AM |
Newshunter User ID: 22884594 United States 04/09/2014 09:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Mike Giglio‏@mike_giglio6m Ukrainian border guards took Soviet-era tents out of storage for new camp near Russia. Sign says Machine Gun Street pic.twitter.com/rhIHXcNrz9 |
Tpotleoz User ID: 56532054 Australia 04/09/2014 09:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... Quoting: Tpotleoz I doubt you could define what a fascist is without going to wikipedia first. Commies killed far more people than fascists. Which death cult do you prefer? Insults - excellent form of debate :) Agreed, not the best form of debate. Fascism is inaccurate to describe nationalists. Maybe if they wanted to scrap the constitution and do away with elections it would be accurate, I don't think anyone has suggested that. So if you use the word fascist to describe them you are just repeating the Kremlin lies and denying legitimate Ukrainian rights to self determination. Putin and co. don't believe Ukraine is even a country. Truth is Russia is just an offshoot of Ukrainian-Byszantine culture which is far older. The Russians were raped by the kosher NKVD and have not recovered. They still think of Soviet times as the glory days. At least Ukrainians can admit the horrors of the 20th century. I too am a nationalist and believe in the right of self determination of all peoples including Ukraine. How would you describe the right sector and their methods if not fascist? ultra-nationalist. If they wanted to change the constitution, have corporate elites run industry and government and end democratic processes, then they would be fascists. Eat the Reds |
Newshunter User ID: 22884594 United States 04/09/2014 09:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Interfax: Putin calls for refrain from introducing advance payments before consulting Ukraine If critical gas situation continues, Moscow to switch to advance payments with Ukraine - Medvedev Ukraine must pay for Russian gas one month in advance - Putin Putin orders agreements with Ukraine be fulfilled, to have contingency plans in case |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 54504562 Canada 04/09/2014 09:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56446610 I was referring to the scum who beat office officials into resignation. I was referring to the scum who were slapping around office workers. I was referring to the scum who charge on elderly politicians to prevent them from speaking cause they disagree with what he is saying. I was referring to the scum who deface WWII monuments. Unless the entire nation of Ukraine is neo Nazi your interpretation of my comment says more about your state of mind than about me. You sound reasonable at first glance but really you are just spouting Kremlin anti-Ukrainian propaganda. [link to www.nytimes.com] If you had any understanding of the Ukrainian blood (not to mention Russian blood) that Soviets spilt before and after WWII, you would not be so concerned about WWII monuments being defaced, unless you are NKVD progeny. Putin should admit Soviet crimes and neutralise 90% of the discord - but he is too much of a Stalinist. I am not so naive to believe one article or news outlet over another. But they say a picture speaks a thousand words and the examples i posted, I've seen not heard. Nowhere did I mention anti Semitism. It is accepted the current Ukrainian authorities got where they are because of the right sector (an embarrassment now I believe). There is little doubt in my mind of the fascist nature in which they operate, soviet\ukranian history withstanding, I will never be on the side of fascists. I doubt you could define what a fascist is without going to wikipedia first. Commies killed far more people than fascists. Which death cult do you prefer? Communism is not a death cult. Genocide is not inherent in an ECONOMIC SYSTEM. Educate yourself before you make yourself look like a moron. |
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< DL > User ID: 11619293 United States 04/09/2014 09:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Gregor Peter ‏@L0gg0l · 2 min Quoting: Luisport NATO PREPARES "NEW AND ADDITIONAL" OPTIONS TO RESPOND TO RUSSIAN MILITARY MOVES NEAR UKRAINE, U.S DEF. SEC. HAGEL TELLS CNN Additional options? I bet they deploy an additional 50 marines or 4 fighter jets somewhere hundreds of miles from Russia... Whoooopdifuckingdooooo Last Edited by < DL > on 04/09/2014 09:12 AM |