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Mortar barrage on Banderistas position:


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What is the range of these mortars? How do they know how to aim? Guessing?
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Effective firing range depends on type of mortar. Some mortars (50mm RM-38) have shooting range under 1km, other 6km or more. I can't describe aiming, but my guess is that it depends mainly on degree of tilt of mortar. You have to know enemys position, yours postition and distance between those two points.

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There are formulas that take that stuff into account. Sort of like some of the factors that snipers have deal with.
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Israel dropped the equivalent of six nuclear bombs on #Gaza pic.twitter.com/jSbrR7hu4V
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The Moskals have sunk to horrifying depths in order to demonise the people of Ukraine. In fact, we will see below that the Moskals view Ukranians as sub-Humans and they are willing to use their own children to present this fact.

Children deployed in Russia’s anti-Ukrainian propaganda


"A Moscow fashion show features girls aged from 10 to 12 dressed in countries’ flags. The girl dressed in Ukrainian colours points a gun at herself and is prevented from pulling the trigger by models from Russia and the USA. In another scene, she apparently turns the (toy) gun on the audience, and then on Russia and the USA. Those with the stomach for it can see photos and even the entire performance here." [link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

"This staggeringly tasteless propaganda was supposedly designed by a ten-year old. Even if it was, she not only got the idea from those around her and / or the Russian media, but was not encouraged to find a better way of demonstrating anti-war sentiments." [link to khpg.org.ua]

Never in my life have I seen a more disgusting, profane, satanic display of morbid theatre that should shock every parent to their core, as I have with this horrifying children's modelling show.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59906832


There is nothing anti-Ukrainian in that show. I didn't like that show though. It has a hint that Ukraine chose a self destruction path with installing anti-Ukrainian, antichristian, and anti-Russian government which made a life of ordinary citizens a living hell. As soon as majority of Ukrainians will realize that junta will be gone forever with its rs and other scum minions.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13974542

Using a little girl wearing the Ukrainian colours to put a gun to her own head and shoot in a perverse political demonstration that Ukraine is killing itself ... is appalling beyond reproach. Every parent on the planet recognises that.
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You think? Every parent on the planet would recognize dropping a GRAD bombardment on a city full of little girls is appalling beyond reproach.

You didn't think of that, did you? Sub standard EU education. Have you ever read history before 1990?
cool2
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Using a child by dressing her in Ukie colors and have her acting out her own public suicide is unforgivable. Especially when she is performing in a Russian play that is blatantly politically controversial. Keep attempting to obfuscate.
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Israel dropped the equivalent of six nuclear bombs on #Gaza pic.twitter.com/jSbrR7hu4V
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wow...and nothing has changed except the bottom line for arms dealers, who would of thought
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[link to twitter.com (secure)]


[link to www.presstv.ir]

VID in link


snip:
Latest reports say fresh shelling by Ukrainian government forces in the troubled eastern city of Donetsk has killed at least two people and injured more others.
Donetsk officials said on Thursday that the civilians died when artillery shells hit Mosipo in the suburb of the restive city.
A number of homes and infrastructure have been also reportedly damaged in the troubled region.
Pro-Russia forces in the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic said the artillery was fired by a diversionary group of Ukrainian forces.
Elsewhere in the nearby Lugansk region, several residential areas, a church and a factory were also struck.
Local authorities said on Wednesday that clashes in and around Donetsk had killed 43 civilians in the past 24 hours.


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There is nothing anti-Ukrainian in that show. I didn't like that show though. It has a hint that Ukraine chose a self destruction path with installing anti-Ukrainian, antichristian, and anti-Russian government which made a life of ordinary citizens a living hell. As soon as majority of Ukrainians will realize that junta will be gone forever with its rs and other scum minions.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13974542

Using a little girl wearing the Ukrainian colours to put a gun to her own head and shoot in a perverse political demonstration that Ukraine is killing itself ... is appalling beyond reproach. Every parent on the planet recognises that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59906832


You think? Every parent on the planet would recognize dropping a GRAD bombardment on a city full of little girls is appalling beyond reproach.

You didn't think of that, did you? Sub standard EU education. Have you ever read history before 1990?
cool2
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Using a child by dressing her in Ukie colors and have her acting out her own public suicide is unforgivable. Especially when she is performing in a Russian play that is blatantly politically controversial. Keep attempting to obfuscate.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59906832


You must be living in a 1940's time warp. Unforgivable? If I'm not mistaken the Netherlands has passed legislation allowing child medical suicide.

That's the crap you are fighting for. Putin would never allow the slow, progressive suicide of Russian culture.
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@poroshenko Without Eastern Ukraine partnership with Kiev, western Ukraine will be totally Bankrupt. [link to www.onlineopinion.com.au] …



Ukraine's next crisis? Economic disaster
Ukraine's next crisis will be a devastatingly economic one, as violent conflict destroys critical infrastructure in the east and brings key industry to a halt, further weakening the energy sector by crippling coal-based electricity production.
The Ukrainian military's showdown with separatists in the industrial east has forced coal mines to severely cut production or close down entirely. This has led to an electricity crisis that can only be staunched by cutting domestic production along with exports to Europe, Crimea, and Belarus -- or worse, getting more imports from Russia.
In the coal centers of Ukraine's industrial east - Luhansk and Donetsk - fighting has forced the full closure of an estimated 50 percent of coal mines, while overall coal production has fallen 22 percent over the same period last year.
Key industry sources say they will potentially run out of coal in less than three weeks.


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I wanted to say I've been a bit confused about the term 'militia' lately. I know who and what it refers to here in the US. In Ukr, not so much.
The eastern separatists are called 'rebels', 'terrorists', 'pro Russian forces', and 'sub human'. I would have thought they would be the 'militia' but apparently not.
The militia is a bunch of Right Sector mercs paid by whichever Kiev oligarchs, who are not controlled by the Kiev gov and allowed to run freely.
The militia is the bunch who last week or so threatened to return from fighting in the east to Kiev and overthrow Poroshenko. Poro has put a hit out on the militia leader now, from what I hear.
So, 'militia' is pro west, Right Sector Kiev junta forces and not the eastern fighters.
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henrysadowy ‏@2tired2retire 14 min.
@poroshenko Without Eastern Ukraine partnership with Kiev, western Ukraine will be totally Bankrupt. [link to www.onlineopinion.com.au] …



Ukraine's next crisis? Economic disaster
Ukraine's next crisis will be a devastatingly economic one, as violent conflict destroys critical infrastructure in the east and brings key industry to a halt, further weakening the energy sector by crippling coal-based electricity production.
The Ukrainian military's showdown with separatists in the industrial east has forced coal mines to severely cut production or close down entirely. This has led to an electricity crisis that can only be staunched by cutting domestic production along with exports to Europe, Crimea, and Belarus -- or worse, getting more imports from Russia.
In the coal centers of Ukraine's industrial east - Luhansk and Donetsk - fighting has forced the full closure of an estimated 50 percent of coal mines, while overall coal production has fallen 22 percent over the same period last year.
Key industry sources say they will potentially run out of coal in less than three weeks.


More in link [link to www.onlineopinion.com.au]
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all for joo bankers and corporate blood suckers...welcome to the NWO when all that matters is the bottom line and if you support them, then you too are a murderous fu'k
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hesright
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Blockbuster video with English subtitles. It shows a group of survivors of the recently destroyed 30th Brigade and their families confronting their colonel. It is pretty clear to me that the Ukrainian high command is throwing poorly trained soldiers into a meat grinder. The Russians fought here a few years ago in WWII and they know it is lovely country for rocket artillery, you know them as GRAD and SMERSH multiple launch rocket systems, MLRS. Truly, the Russians are killing thousands of Ukrainian conscripts while the private armies of the oligarchs, the right sector nazis roam the Donbass basin terrorizing old women and children.
[link to m.youtube.com (secure)]
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Most of the Ukrainian people in the west of the country are being played for fools by the US, by Porky's kosher kind, and obviously from the video by their own kind in positions of power enough to protect their own sorry a....es and sacrifice the Slavic brothers.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36613458

It also makes clear the strategy of the rebels is simply to slaughter ever larger numbers of Ukrainian military and paramilitary people on the basis that they can't keep replacing them forever. There must come a time eventually when the supplies of young men dry up and the soldiers stop coming. It might take killing 50,000 to 100,000 of them, but it is manageable.
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That's just idiotic. That is self-inflicted genocide. Just shows the stupidity and immaturity of those people. Plus they want to slaughter their own kin. Perfect useful idiots and cannon fodder for TPTB who hate all Slavs with a vengence BTW.
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I have a strong feeling that if the Ukrainian Govt doesn't stop this insane slaughter of Eastern and Western Ukrainians, both sides will end up turning on the Government.

Western Ukrainians keep coming home in body bags and it will end up causing more riots.
For the latest on the Ukraine Crisis - automatically updated every 15 mins.

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all for joo bankers and corporate blood suckers...welcome to the NWO when all that matters is the bottom line and if you support them, then you too are a murderous fu'k
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hesright
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Wouldn't it be great if the majority of Slavs in western Ukraine quit serving themselves up for slaughter and instead made sausage out of Porky and his pig pals and then reached out to the east to form the Ukrainian Federation as proposed all along.
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all for joo bankers and corporate blood suckers...welcome to the NWO when all that matters is the bottom line and if you support them, then you too are a murderous fu'k
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You obviously dont understand this song
it has orgin in New year sturm of Grozny city in 1995 year
when russian conscript soldiers trained and treated by their high comand in same way like now ukie conscripts died en masse in street fighting with chechen rebels in that city.
only in israel a jew high comand take care of his soldiers in other country where they rule they dont give a fuck like Russia in that years and Ukraine now.
Songs like this combined with picture like this can hit straight into gut so hard that you want cry but you cant.
I feel pity for theese ukrainian, russian, separatist and ordinary civilian ppl who lost their live in this war where slav kill slav
and wish with all my heart for the creators of this orange revolution reap what you sow and choke with that...
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all for joo bankers and corporate blood suckers...welcome to the NWO when all that matters is the bottom line and if you support them, then you too are a murderous fu'k
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You obviously dont understand this song
it has orgin in New year sturm of Grozny city in 1995 year
when russian conscript soldiers trained and treated by their high comand in same way like now ukie conscripts died en masse in street fighting with chechen rebels in that city.
only in israel a jew high comand take care of his soldiers in other country where they rule they dont give a fuck like Russia in that years and Ukraine now.
Songs like this combined with picture like this can hit straight into gut so hard that you want cry but you cant.
I feel pity for theese ukrainian, russian, separatist and ordinary civilian ppl who lost their live in this war where slav kill slav
and wish with all my heart for the creators of this orange revolution reap what you sow and choke with that...
 Quoting: ToToro



Babylon is Fallen
1.After these things I saw another angel coming down from heaven, having great authority, and the earth was illumined with his glory. 2.And he cried out with a mighty voice, saying, "Fallen, fallen is Babylon the great! She has become a dwelling place of demons and a prison of every unclean spirit, and a prison of every unclean and hateful bird. 3."For all the nations have drunk of the wine of the passion of her immorality, and the kings of the earth have committed acts of immorality with her, and the merchants of the earth have become rich by the wealth of her sensuality."…
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I wanted to say I've been a bit confused about the term 'militia' lately. I know who and what it refers to here in the US. In Ukr, not so much.
The eastern separatists are called 'rebels', 'terrorists', 'pro Russian forces', and 'sub human'. I would have thought they would be the 'militia' but apparently not.
The militia is a bunch of Right Sector mercs paid by whichever Kiev oligarchs, who are not controlled by the Kiev gov and allowed to run freely.
The militia is the bunch who last week or so threatened to return from fighting in the east to Kiev and overthrow Poroshenko. Poro has put a hit out on the militia leader now, from what I hear.
So, 'militia' is pro west, Right Sector Kiev junta forces and not the eastern fighters.
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Pretty much.

"militia" equals pro-western "good guys".

(Even though they're not)
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Boris Reitschuster @reitschuster
Poll: 80 percent of Germans see "great responsibility of Russia for escalation", 70% support EU sanctions.

Zero evidence exists showing this poll has been manipulated.
Zero evidence exists showing this poll has been fabricated.
Zero evidence exists showing this poll has been corrupted.

The publishing of this poll will, however, illuminate a lazy TussoShill tactic which is attacking the source of any information the RussoShill feels is contrary to his cause. In this case, it is German television.
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You are wrong. Every comment session is closed after a few hours. Germans are about 70% PRO Russian in this case.
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LOL... "Zero evidence the poll has been manipulated"? Well... how about this... this is an ARD "poll"... just this month, ARD (amongst several others) has had to openly admit to having faked several so-called "polls" in the past...
I swear... if some volcano erupted somewhere tomorrow the west would be going all "Putin did it!1!!" Urgh. I can't decide if they're a kindergarten, a loony bin, a mafia, or all of them.

Not to mention that this "poll" was super-manipulative: It started with a reminder of the shooting down of MH-17 (and we all know who is to blame, right?), then went on to ask if one thought Russia carried blame in the Ukraine conflict. It did not ask about the US, the EU, or even Kiev. It just... didn't.

German polls are such a joke that newspapers have even made their own satire "polls":
From: "Deutsche Wirtschaftsnachrichten":
What do you think the Russian army is for?
a) nature conservation 2%
b) language courses 3%
c) dating service 8%
d) military operations 87%

Who do you think is guilty concerning the Ukraine crisis?
a) Heino* 1%
b) Horst Seehofer 2%
c) Pippi Longstocking 1%
d) Vladimir Putin 96%

Cute, right? ;)

*German singer

I don't doubt polls are a sham everywhere. It's just that in Germany, media have had to openly admit that in the last few weeks...
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all for joo bankers and corporate blood suckers...welcome to the NWO when all that matters is the bottom line and if you support them, then you too are a murderous fu'k
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You obviously dont understand this song
it has orgin in New year sturm of Grozny city in 1995 year
when russian conscript soldiers trained and treated by their high comand in same way like now ukie conscripts died en masse in street fighting with chechen rebels in that city.
only in israel a jew high comand take care of his soldiers in other country where they rule they dont give a fuck like Russia in that years and Ukraine now.
Songs like this combined with picture like this can hit straight into gut so hard that you want cry but you cant.
I feel pity for theese ukrainian, russian, separatist and ordinary civilian ppl who lost their live in this war where slav kill slav
and wish with all my heart for the creators of this orange revolution reap what you sow and choke with that...
 Quoting: ToToro


clappa
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I wanted to say I've been a bit confused about the term 'militia' lately. I know who and what it refers to here in the US. In Ukr, not so much. ...
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Congratulations!vendetta

Few Americans know exactly what their militia is though the definition is easily found, it is defined in Federal law - 10U.S.Code§311
10 U.S. Code § 311 - Militia: composition and classes
(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.
(b) The classes of the militia are—
(1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and
(2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.
 Quoting: [link to www.law.cornell.edu]

The reference to 32USC§313 basically allows veterans to remain part of the militia even after they exceed the ordinary age limit of 45 years.

It is interesting that it is not necessary (provided you are a male) to be a citizen, it is sufficient to have applied for citizenship.

It could thus be argued that the 2nd Amendment right to keep and bear firearms is limited to males aged 17 to 44, as well as female members of the armed forces. But no-one seems interested in arguing for that limitation nowadays.

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Boris Reitschuster @reitschuster
Poll: 80 percent of Germans see "great responsibility of Russia for escalation", 70% support EU sanctions.

Zero evidence exists showing this poll has been manipulated.
Zero evidence exists showing this poll has been fabricated.
Zero evidence exists showing this poll has been corrupted.

The publishing of this poll will, however, illuminate a lazy TussoShill tactic which is attacking the source of any information the RussoShill feels is contrary to his cause. In this case, it is German television.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55082044


You are wrong. Every comment session is closed after a few hours. Germans are about 70% PRO Russian in this case.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13111068


LOL... "Zero evidence the poll has been manipulated"? Well... how about this... this is an ARD "poll"... just this month, ARD (amongst several others) has had to openly admit to having faked several so-called "polls" in the past...
I swear... if some volcano erupted somewhere tomorrow the west would be going all "Putin did it!1!!" Urgh. I can't decide if they're a kindergarten, a loony bin, a mafia, or all of them.

Not to mention that this "poll" was super-manipulative: It started with a reminder of the shooting down of MH-17 (and we all know who is to blame, right?), then went on to ask if one thought Russia carried blame in the Ukraine conflict. It did not ask about the US, the EU, or even Kiev. It just... didn't.

German polls are such a joke that newspapers have even made their own satire "polls":
From: "Deutsche Wirtschaftsnachrichten":
What do you think the Russian army is for?
a) nature conservation 2%
b) language courses 3%
c) dating service 8%
d) military operations 87%

Who do you think is guilty concerning the Ukraine crisis?
a) Heino* 1%
b) Horst Seehofer 2%
c) Pippi Longstocking 1%
d) Vladimir Putin 96%

Cute, right? ;)

*German singer

I don't doubt polls are a sham everywhere. It's just that in Germany, media have had to openly admit that in the last few weeks...
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Nothing would be stronger evidence to your cause than a motion for no-confidence in Chancellor Merkel. That would solve all the conjecture instantly.
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Russian Humanitarian Convoy May Proceed to Luhansk on Friday

MOSCOW, August 22 (RIA Novosti) - Ukrainian border guards have begun inspecting the Russian humanitarian convoy with tons of food, medicine and other basic necessities for the people of Donbas.

On Thursday, the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) confirmed that it had received all the guarantees for the safe passage of the convoy through the Luhansk region. Later the same day, after long negotiations, Kiev finally recognized the cargo as humanitarian aid, and the first trucks began to cross the border. The convoy is expected to move to Luhansk on Friday.

Earlier in August, in light of the worsening humanitarian situation in Ukraine, Russia suggested sending an international humanitarian mission to eastern Ukraine under the auspices of the ICRC.

The convoy comprises 280 trucks carrying about 2,000 tons of humanitarian aid, including baby food, medication, grain, sugar, sleeping bags and other necessities. It set off from the Moscow Region on August 12 heading toward Ukraine’s conflict areas.

On Thursday, Kiev reiterated that the ICRC had not provided the necessary guarantees for the safe passage of humanitarian convoy in Ukraine. Andriy Lysenko, Ukraine's National Security Council spokesman said that Kiev had not received all the necessary customs clearance documents. At the same time, Moscow confirmed on Wednesday that "all the preparatory work necessary for carrying out this important humanitarian mission has been completed." The ICRC experts, who came back from Luhansk, said that they had received guarantees for the safe passage of the convoy.

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Poroshenko selected the company to help it sell its assets. She will be an investment firm Rothschild, who owned the eponymous dynasty of bankers, which dates back to the mid-eighteenth century. This program "Plans" said CEO and co-chairman of Rothschild & Cie Giovanni Salvetti. Direct selling process assets president, he said, will begin next week.

"We got very good news today and enjoy the fact that we selected for this very important role. Our company is one of the leading advisors in matters agreements, mergers and acquisitions. Now directly we complete the contract signing of the Rothschild part in this process in a consortium with our local partners - "Investment Capital Ukraine". And efficient operation of the direct sales process will start next week "- said Giovanni Salvetti, CEO and co« Rothschild & Cie».

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Fascinating reading all the history regarding Jews. I'll add to that.

Zuckerberg - An Ashkenazic Jewish surname of German origin. Two other variations are: Zuckerburg and Zuckerborg. Interesting.
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buncha muckin funkies on the livestream
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Poroshenko selected the company to help it sell its assets. She will be an investment firm Rothschild, who owned the eponymous dynasty of bankers, which dates back to the mid-eighteenth century. This program "Plans" said CEO and co-chairman of Rothschild & Cie Giovanni Salvetti. Direct selling process assets president, he said, will begin next week.
"We got very good news today and enjoy the fact that we selected for this very important role. Our company is one of the leading advisors in matters agreements, mergers and acquisitions. Now directly we complete the contract signing of the Rothschild part in this process in a consortium with our local partners - "Investment Capital Ukraine". And efficient operation of the direct sales process will start next week "- said Giovanni Salvetti, CEO and co« Rothschild & Cie».
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Yep.
He is going to sell up and do a disappearing act in short order. Just wants to get the next tranche of IMF money in so he can quickly loot some of it. Better sell now.

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August 24 in Donetsk will host the 'parade' Ukrainian prisoners

Deputy Defense Minister of DPR Sergey Petrovsky said that the 'Independence Day' in Donetsk will be a parade of Ukrainian POW. 'The Prime Minister of DNR Zaharchenko just ordered to make by August 24 on the Lenin Square padded with ukrop appliances. Punitive prisoners will be held in the city exactly as the instigators Germans once were held in Moscow,' said Peter.

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Poroshenko selected the company to help it sell its assets. She will be an investment firm Rothschild, who owned the eponymous dynasty of bankers, which dates back to the mid-eighteenth century. This program "Plans" said CEO and co-chairman of Rothschild & Cie Giovanni Salvetti. Direct selling process assets president, he said, will begin next week.
"We got very good news today and enjoy the fact that we selected for this very important role. Our company is one of the leading advisors in matters agreements, mergers and acquisitions. Now directly we complete the contract signing of the Rothschild part in this process in a consortium with our local partners - "Investment Capital Ukraine". And efficient operation of the direct sales process will start next week "- said Giovanni Salvetti, CEO and co« Rothschild & Cie».
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Yep.
He is going to sell up and do a disappearing act in short order. Just wants to get the next tranche of IMF money in so he can quickly loot some of it. Better sell now.
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Ukraine have lucky to their president, it's an epic embodiment of national ideas and patriotism!
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Poroshenko selected the company to help it sell its assets. She will be an investment firm Rothschild, who owned the eponymous dynasty of bankers, which dates back to the mid-eighteenth century. This program "Plans" said CEO and co-chairman of Rothschild & Cie Giovanni Salvetti. Direct selling process assets president, he said, will begin next week.
"We got very good news today and enjoy the fact that we selected for this very important role. Our company is one of the leading advisors in matters agreements, mergers and acquisitions. Now directly we complete the contract signing of the Rothschild part in this process in a consortium with our local partners - "Investment Capital Ukraine". And efficient operation of the direct sales process will start next week "- said Giovanni Salvetti, CEO and co« Rothschild & Cie».
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 587115

Yep.
He is going to sell up and do a disappearing act in short order. Just wants to get the next tranche of IMF money in so he can quickly loot some of it. Better sell now.
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Ukraine have lucky to their president, it's an epic embodiment of national ideas and patriotism!
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another do





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