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OMG NUKES SHOWN OPENLY IN KALININGRAD.
NOW RUSSIA WILL FEEL EUROPES WRATH.
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Just in...NEW US SANCTIONS THIS WEEK.....
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Things are getting interesting!!!!!!!!!
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So, what happens when Obama signs Ukraine Freedom Act?

How do you think the Kremlin will respond?
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I think it's probably 50/50 they'll do nothing, at least at first.

The NAF has proven they can kick the Ukies ass without much help from Russia. It's more of a problem for Kiev IMO since they are killing residents of their own country, and destroying their own infrastructure.

ETA: if the rumored nuclear false flag happens, I think it would be immediate WW3

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the NAF as you call them wouldn't have survived without Russian help and to deny that is asinine.
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the NAF as you call them wouldn't have survived without Russian help and to deny that is asinine.
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the president of Ukraine (Poroshenko) provided weapons to the NAF, according to Yulia Tymoshenko.

Ukraine hasn't provided any proof that the Russians provided anything other then Humanitarian aid.

btw..I think the aid most likely included winter clothing for the NAF.

that's it.
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Smth very omnious is happening in Kaliningrad!

Massive emptyiing of supermarkets!

[link to www.newkaliningrad.ru]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66122881




"...in one of the supermarkets [in Kaliningrad] customers bought out expensive alcohol, pampers, and food cans. At time there are up to 30 customers lined up per one cashier. (...) were also intensively purchased some household appliances (...) in addition to spices, childrens' goods, alcoholic beverages, and household chemical products. Despite that some stores did not see an increase in sales."



Perhaps the store had a sales promotion?


[link to michalw.narod.ru]


Clearly some stores only, not all of them.

What about the rest of Russia?

Do they expect some sort of blockade of Kaliningrad?
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In Moscow people bought out Ikea. Honestly even if war will knock on my doors I have no idea why the hell I should go there and buy something...

Russian Market ‏@russian_market 52 min.
Meanwhile at @Ikea stores in Moscow. (Yes, Apple was clever enough to close its online store in Russia).

[link to pbs.twimg.com (secure)]
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Situation in shops has nothing to do with a war. As always in Soviet Union and post-Soviet countries people just try to save somehow their savings because of devaluation.
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the NAF as you call them wouldn't have survived without Russian help and to deny that is asinine.
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the president of Ukraine (Poroshenko) provided weapons to the NAF, according to Yulia Tymoshenko.

Ukraine hasn't provided any proof that the Russians provided anything other then Humanitarian aid.

btw..I think the aid most likely included winter clothing for the NAF.

that's it.
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


Wow, and you probably think the ruble collapse is good too huh? NAF = Rebels... Rebels have gotten plenty of armaments from Russia, this is plain as day as they drive spray painted over Russian insignia'd vehicles/APCs/tanks. Not everything they got was taken from Ukraine military as I'm sure you're gonna claim...
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the NAF as you call them wouldn't have survived without Russian help and to deny that is asinine.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63029939


the president of Ukraine (Poroshenko) provided weapons to the NAF, according to Yulia Tymoshenko.

Ukraine hasn't provided any proof that the Russians provided anything other then Humanitarian aid.

btw..I think the aid most likely included winter clothing for the NAF.

that's it.
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


Wow, and you probably think the ruble collapse is good too huh? NAF = Rebels... Rebels have gotten plenty of armaments from Russia, this is plain as day as they drive spray painted over Russian insignia'd vehicles/APCs/tanks. Not everything they got was taken from Ukraine military as I'm sure you're gonna claim...
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maybe so but Kiev can't prove anything.

All we have to go on is Tymoshenko's accusations, which were basically confirmed by a rebel commander.

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Smth very omnious is happening in Kaliningrad!

Massive emptyiing of supermarkets!

[link to www.newkaliningrad.ru]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66122881




"...in one of the supermarkets [in Kaliningrad] customers bought out expensive alcohol, pampers, and food cans. At time there are up to 30 customers lined up per one cashier. (...) were also intensively purchased some household appliances (...) in addition to spices, childrens' goods, alcoholic beverages, and household chemical products. Despite that some stores did not see an increase in sales."



Perhaps the store had a sales promotion?


[link to michalw.narod.ru]


Clearly some stores only, not all of them.

What about the rest of Russia?

Do they expect some sort of blockade of Kaliningrad?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64391578


In Moscow people bought out Ikea. Honestly even if war will knock on my doors I have no idea why the hell I should go there and buy something...

Russian Market ‏@russian_market 52 min.
Meanwhile at @Ikea stores in Moscow. (Yes, Apple was clever enough to close its online store in Russia).

[link to pbs.twimg.com (secure)]
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!



Making lots of purchases in IKEA superficially does not make sense in case of a risk of atomic war, but perhaps someone is furnishing their survival bunkers?
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thats cause Russians are so starved and naked they can afford to buy expensive foreign furniture, while nations currency breaks and war is at the door. Damn, they have it so bad..
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the NAF as you call them wouldn't have survived without Russian help and to deny that is asinine.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63029939


the president of Ukraine (Poroshenko) provided weapons to the NAF, according to Yulia Tymoshenko.

Ukraine hasn't provided any proof that the Russians provided anything other then Humanitarian aid.

btw..I think the aid most likely included winter clothing for the NAF.

that's it.
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


Wow, and you probably think the ruble collapse is good too huh? NAF = Rebels... Rebels have gotten plenty of armaments from Russia, this is plain as day as they drive spray painted over Russian insignia'd vehicles/APCs/tanks. Not everything they got was taken from Ukraine military as I'm sure you're gonna claim...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63029939


maybe so but Kiev can't prove anything.

All we have to go on is Tymoshenko's accusations, which were basically confirmed by a rebel commander.
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


I commend you on your honesty... While we have difference of opinion on the provable logistical nature of providing weapons/tanks/mrls, it is obvious these things didn't originate out of thin air. We have a saying over in the states that goes like this: "It's not what you know, but what you can prove in court." Very much used in this thread about what people know to what they can prove with a video recording of the same.
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"...in one of the supermarkets [in Kaliningrad] customers bought out expensive alcohol, pampers, and food cans. At time there are up to 30 customers lined up per one cashier. (...) were also intensively purchased some household appliances (...) in addition to spices, childrens' goods, alcoholic beverages, and household chemical products. Despite that some stores did not see an increase in sales."



Perhaps the store had a sales promotion?


[link to michalw.narod.ru]


Clearly some stores only, not all of them.

What about the rest of Russia?

Do they expect some sort of blockade of Kaliningrad?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64391578


In Moscow people bought out Ikea. Honestly even if war will knock on my doors I have no idea why the hell I should go there and buy something...

Russian Market ‏@russian_market 52 min.
Meanwhile at @Ikea stores in Moscow. (Yes, Apple was clever enough to close its online store in Russia).

[link to pbs.twimg.com (secure)]
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!



Making lots of purchases in IKEA superficially does not make sense in case of a risk of atomic war, but perhaps someone is furnishing their survival bunkers?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64391578


they are buying because of the very great threat of ultra-hyper-inflation to buy some thing of value than to hold worthless currency whether this is war or no war these people are afraid of a Weimar Republic like inflation. Things are getting very serious there with Bank runs and since the Central Bank in Russia is seen has weak the big money people are going to push them. and to you that are in the know this is the start of a real war we are destroying the Russian Currency to force regime Change.
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WEIMAR REPUBLIC!!!!!!!!! What if Putin is instead the Hitler role he is the WEIMAR rule?!?!? And theres more of a tyrant up and comming?!?!?!?!?
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the president of Ukraine (Poroshenko) provided weapons to the NAF, according to Yulia Tymoshenko.

Ukraine hasn't provided any proof that the Russians provided anything other then Humanitarian aid.

btw..I think the aid most likely included winter clothing for the NAF.

that's it.
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


Wow, and you probably think the ruble collapse is good too huh? NAF = Rebels... Rebels have gotten plenty of armaments from Russia, this is plain as day as they drive spray painted over Russian insignia'd vehicles/APCs/tanks. Not everything they got was taken from Ukraine military as I'm sure you're gonna claim...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63029939


maybe so but Kiev can't prove anything.

All we have to go on is Tymoshenko's accusations, which were basically confirmed by a rebel commander.
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


I commend you on your honesty... While we have difference of opinion on the provable logistical nature of providing weapons/tanks/mrls, it is obvious these things didn't originate out of thin air. We have a saying over in the states that goes like this: "It's not what you know, but what you can prove in court." Very much used in this thread about what people know to what they can prove with a video recording of the same.
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Kiev has nothing of the sort in the way of video recordings that I know of. But..the Internet does have this recording



[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

Nazi's targeting and considering white ethnic russians as SUBHUMAN pursuant to what porky and Yats said.

go fucking figure
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In Moscow people bought out Ikea. Honestly even if war will knock on my doors I have no idea why the hell I should go there and buy something...

Russian Market ‏@russian_market 52 min.
Meanwhile at @Ikea stores in Moscow. (Yes, Apple was clever enough to close its online store in Russia).

[link to pbs.twimg.com (secure)]
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!



Making lots of purchases in IKEA superficially does not make sense in case of a risk of atomic war, but perhaps someone is furnishing their survival bunkers?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64391578


they are buying because of the very great threat of ultra-hyper-inflation to buy some thing of value than to hold worthless currency whether this is war or no war these people are afraid of a Weimar Republic like inflation. Things are getting very serious there with Bank runs and since the Central Bank in Russia is seen has weak the big money people are going to push them. and to you that are in the know this is the start of a real war we are destroying the Russian Currency to force regime Change.
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You all aware that some say IKEAS founder was a member of hitler youth right???
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Go on....this intrigues me, are you implying that Russia is in fact helping a fellow Nazi by buying his stuff?
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So, what happens when Obama signs Ukraine Freedom Act?

How do you think the Kremlin will respond?
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It doesn't matter anymore.

If Russians respond to Ukraine now, they are 3 steps behind U.S. If they confiscate all the assets of the foreign banks on Russian territory, they are 2 steps behind. If they start threatening Saudis, they are just 1 step behind. Every move they have pulled so far has been lagging far behind U.S.

So, you can safely scratch that previous estimate of mine about Russia having 6 months to live. If I were something in the Russian leadership, I'd be expecting U.S. nuclear strike within a month and not a single day more.

If Russia is not ready to wage a nuclear war tomorrow, they are as good as dead today.

That's how serious this is. Forget Ukraine. It's way too late to worry about such insignificant details.

And the power of exponential escalation proves itself once again...
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So, what happens when Obama signs Ukraine Freedom Act?

How do you think the Kremlin will respond?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64278712

It doesn't matter anymore.

If Russians respond to Ukraine now, they are 3 steps behind U.S. If they confiscate all the assets of the foreign banks on Russian territory, they are 2 steps behind. If they start threatening Saudis, they are just 1 step behind. Every move they have pulled so far has been lagging far behind U.S.

So, you can safely scratch that previous estimate of mine about Russia having 6 months to live. If I were something in the Russian leadership, I'd be expecting U.S. nuclear strike within a month and not a single day more.

If Russia is not ready to wage a nuclear war tomorrow, they are as good as dead today.

That's how serious this is. Forget Ukraine. It's way too late to worry about such insignificant details.

And the power of exponential escalation proves itself once again...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66108944


If the Kremlin had no foreign reserves then I might side with you a little bit, but they aren't in that type of state yet. Could be in short time, year maybe if things don't improve, but by then lots can happen.
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Smth very omnious is happening in Kaliningrad!

Massive emptyiing of supermarkets!

[link to www.newkaliningrad.ru]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66122881




"...in one of the supermarkets [in Kaliningrad] customers bought out expensive alcohol, pampers, and food cans. At time there are up to 30 customers lined up per one cashier. (...) were also intensively purchased some household appliances (...) in addition to spices, childrens' goods, alcoholic beverages, and household chemical products. Despite that some stores did not see an increase in sales."



Perhaps the store had a sales promotion?


[link to michalw.narod.ru]


Clearly some stores only, not all of them.

What about the rest of Russia?

Do they expect some sort of blockade of Kaliningrad?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64391578


In Moscow people bought out Ikea. Honestly even if war will knock on my doors I have no idea why the hell I should go there and buy something...

Russian Market ‏@russian_market 52 min.
Meanwhile at @Ikea stores in Moscow. (Yes, Apple was clever enough to close its online store in Russia).

[link to pbs.twimg.com (secure)]
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


Situation in shops has nothing to do with a war. As always in Soviet Union and post-Soviet countries people just try to save somehow their savings because of devaluation.
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you know many Russians are quite intelligent and with University degrees. They see and feel what is happening, they read Western media too. Russian Tv are full of elaborated commentaries and discussions on international situation. There isn't one view sent by Putin, there are many views of many people who discuss something like this forum.

Indeed I don't know how Ikea goods will help them in the time of war, but that is instinctive reaction. Perhaps the US customers will make bigger lines buying everything, if something happens in Cuba or dollar devaluates.
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So, what happens when Obama signs Ukraine Freedom Act?

How do you think the Kremlin will respond?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64278712

It doesn't matter anymore.

If Russians respond to Ukraine now, they are 3 steps behind U.S. If they confiscate all the assets of the foreign banks on Russian territory, they are 2 steps behind. If they start threatening Saudis, they are just 1 step behind. Every move they have pulled so far has been lagging far behind U.S.

So, you can safely scratch that previous estimate of mine about Russia having 6 months to live. If I were something in the Russian leadership, I'd be expecting U.S. nuclear strike within a month and not a single day more.

If Russia is not ready to wage a nuclear war tomorrow, they are as good as dead today.

That's how serious this is. Forget Ukraine. It's way too late to worry about such insignificant details.

And the power of exponential escalation proves itself once again...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66108944


you underestimate Russia

WE WILL BURY YOU translated into the total mindfuck DOMINATION of the liberal FUCKTARDS now in charge.

google: yuri bezmenov

this is common knowledge here at GLP you DUMBASS
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So, what happens when Obama signs Ukraine Freedom Act?

How do you think the Kremlin will respond?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64278712

It doesn't matter anymore.

If Russians respond to Ukraine now, they are 3 steps behind U.S. If they confiscate all the assets of the foreign banks on Russian territory, they are 2 steps behind. If they start threatening Saudis, they are just 1 step behind. Every move they have pulled so far has been lagging far behind U.S.

So, you can safely scratch that previous estimate of mine about Russia having 6 months to live. If I were something in the Russian leadership, I'd be expecting U.S. nuclear strike within a month and not a single day more.

If Russia is not ready to wage a nuclear war tomorrow, they are as good as dead today.

That's how serious this is. Forget Ukraine. It's way too late to worry about such insignificant details.

And the power of exponential escalation proves itself once again...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66108944




the WW3 i speculate will begin in March, around the next eclipse.

but, that the propaganda will build up steadily towards then.


And there may be military incidents, False Flags, leading up to that.


NATO shooting down some russian jets, and vice versa
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So, what happens when Obama signs Ukraine Freedom Act?

How do you think the Kremlin will respond?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64278712

It doesn't matter anymore.

If Russians respond to Ukraine now, they are 3 steps behind U.S. If they confiscate all the assets of the foreign banks on Russian territory, they are 2 steps behind. If they start threatening Saudis, they are just 1 step behind. Every move they have pulled so far has been lagging far behind U.S.

So, you can safely scratch that previous estimate of mine about Russia having 6 months to live. If I were something in the Russian leadership, I'd be expecting U.S. nuclear strike within a month and not a single day more.

If Russia is not ready to wage a nuclear war tomorrow, they are as good as dead today.

That's how serious this is. Forget Ukraine. It's way too late to worry about such insignificant details.

And the power of exponential escalation proves itself once again...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66108944


Russia is ready to launch nuclear strike not tomorrow but today, not afternoon but in the morning. Putin clearly showed that by snap drills unannounced even to his generals, commanded to start while he was flying abroad, at midnight Russian time. The last such drill was in Kaliningrad, with 200+ tanks and 600+ vehicles. ISKANDERS were transported by SEA and AIR - just imagine the map the transport planes should fly peacefully between Estonia, Finland, Sweden and the Baltics to transport the nuclear ready missiles in Kaliningrad. That all happened the week before, 5-10 October with NO WORD in the media. The silence broke the Russian media on Oct 16. The war could have ended by now. The biggest error of the US administration is to underestimate RUssia and its allies. Or perhaps they don't. Perhaps it is a sought solution? OK let the war starts then, if both sides want it!
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"...in one of the supermarkets [in Kaliningrad] customers bought out expensive alcohol, pampers, and food cans. At time there are up to 30 customers lined up per one cashier. (...) were also intensively purchased some household appliances (...) in addition to spices, childrens' goods, alcoholic beverages, and household chemical products. Despite that some stores did not see an increase in sales."



Perhaps the store had a sales promotion?


[link to michalw.narod.ru]


Clearly some stores only, not all of them.

What about the rest of Russia?

Do they expect some sort of blockade of Kaliningrad?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64391578


In Moscow people bought out Ikea. Honestly even if war will knock on my doors I have no idea why the hell I should go there and buy something...

Russian Market ‏@russian_market 52 min.
Meanwhile at @Ikea stores in Moscow. (Yes, Apple was clever enough to close its online store in Russia).

[link to pbs.twimg.com (secure)]
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


Situation in shops has nothing to do with a war. As always in Soviet Union and post-Soviet countries people just try to save somehow their savings because of devaluation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66134679


you know many Russians are quite intelligent and with University degrees. They see and feel what is happening, they read Western media too. Russian Tv are full of elaborated commentaries and discussions on international situation. There isn't one view sent by Putin, there are many views of many people who discuss something like this forum.

Indeed I don't know how Ikea goods will help them in the time of war, but that is instinctive reaction. Perhaps the US customers will make bigger lines buying everything, if something happens in Cuba or dollar devaluates.
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Maybe there is no reason? Or in fact it makes all the importance in the world?
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So, what happens when Obama signs Ukraine Freedom Act?

How do you think the Kremlin will respond?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64278712

It doesn't matter anymore.

If Russians respond to Ukraine now, they are 3 steps behind U.S. If they confiscate all the assets of the foreign banks on Russian territory, they are 2 steps behind. If they start threatening Saudis, they are just 1 step behind. Every move they have pulled so far has been lagging far behind U.S.

So, you can safely scratch that previous estimate of mine about Russia having 6 months to live. If I were something in the Russian leadership, I'd be expecting U.S. nuclear strike within a month and not a single day more.

If Russia is not ready to wage a nuclear war tomorrow, they are as good as dead today.

That's how serious this is. Forget Ukraine. It's way too late to worry about such insignificant details.

And the power of exponential escalation proves itself once again...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66108944


Russia is ready to launch nuclear strike not tomorrow but today, not afternoon but in the morning. Putin clearly showed that by snap drills unannounced even to his generals, commanded to start while he was flying abroad, at midnight Russian time. The last such drill was in Kaliningrad, with 200+ tanks and 600+ vehicles. ISKANDERS were transported by SEA and AIR - just imagine the map the transport planes should fly peacefully between Estonia, Finland, Sweden and the Baltics to transport the nuclear ready missiles in Kaliningrad. That all happened the week before, 5-10 October with NO WORD in the media. The silence broke the Russian media on Oct 16. The war could have ended by now. The biggest error of the US administration is to underestimate RUssia and its allies. Or perhaps they don't. Perhaps it is a sought solution? OK let the war starts then, if both sides want it!
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I am sorry, of course 5-10 December, announced on Dec 16.

There were dozens such drills, some bigger. Some involved icbm test in one direction and another one in the opposite direction Kamchatka - Central Russia to simulate US attack. I haven't heard of US similar drills. If someone is ready for the big war it is Russia.
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So, what happens when Obama signs Ukraine Freedom Act?

How do you think the Kremlin will respond?
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It doesn't matter anymore.

If Russians respond to Ukraine now, they are 3 steps behind U.S. If they confiscate all the assets of the foreign banks on Russian territory, they are 2 steps behind. If they start threatening Saudis, they are just 1 step behind. Every move they have pulled so far has been lagging far behind U.S.

So, you can safely scratch that previous estimate of mine about Russia having 6 months to live. If I were something in the Russian leadership, I'd be expecting U.S. nuclear strike within a month and not a single day more.

If Russia is not ready to wage a nuclear war tomorrow, they are as good as dead today.

That's how serious this is. Forget Ukraine. It's way too late to worry about such insignificant details.

And the power of exponential escalation proves itself once again...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66108944


Russia is ready to launch nuclear strike not tomorrow but today, not afternoon but in the morning. Putin clearly showed that by snap drills unannounced even to his generals, commanded to start while he was flying abroad, at midnight Russian time. The last such drill was in Kaliningrad, with 200+ tanks and 600+ vehicles. ISKANDERS were transported by SEA and AIR - just imagine the map the transport planes should fly peacefully between Estonia, Finland, Sweden and the Baltics to transport the nuclear ready missiles in Kaliningrad. That all happened the week before, 5-10 October with NO WORD in the media. The silence broke the Russian media on Oct 16. The war could have ended by now. The biggest error of the US administration is to underestimate RUssia and its allies. Or perhaps they don't. Perhaps it is a sought solution? OK let the war starts then, if both sides want it!
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Both sides could launch a nuclear war right this moment,

but they, The Global Elite, have to do this Kabuki Dance to build up to it.


I believe that There will be a brief conventional war, no more than a few months, so people dont get over the shock that the USA and NATO are at war, and then that ends in a nuclear exchange.


Who starts the actual fighting, tough to say,

but i suspect March, around the next eclipse.
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So, what happens when Obama signs Ukraine Freedom Act?

How do you think the Kremlin will respond?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64278712

It doesn't matter anymore.

If Russians respond to Ukraine now, they are 3 steps behind U.S. If they confiscate all the assets of the foreign banks on Russian territory, they are 2 steps behind. If they start threatening Saudis, they are just 1 step behind. Every move they have pulled so far has been lagging far behind U.S.

So, you can safely scratch that previous estimate of mine about Russia having 6 months to live. If I were something in the Russian leadership, I'd be expecting U.S. nuclear strike within a month and not a single day more.

If Russia is not ready to wage a nuclear war tomorrow, they are as good as dead today.

That's how serious this is. Forget Ukraine. It's way too late to worry about such insignificant details.

And the power of exponential escalation proves itself once again...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66108944


you underestimate Russia

WE WILL BURY YOU translated into the total mindfuck DOMINATION of the liberal FUCKTARDS now in charge.

google: yuri bezmenov

this is common knowledge here at GLP you DUMBASS
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Remember not everyone knows everything and if you decieve yourself into thinking you do. Then you will fall forever...
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So, what happens when Obama signs Ukraine Freedom Act?

How do you think the Kremlin will respond?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64278712

It doesn't matter anymore.

If Russians respond to Ukraine now, they are 3 steps behind U.S. If they confiscate all the assets of the foreign banks on Russian territory, they are 2 steps behind. If they start threatening Saudis, they are just 1 step behind. Every move they have pulled so far has been lagging far behind U.S.

So, you can safely scratch that previous estimate of mine about Russia having 6 months to live. If I were something in the Russian leadership, I'd be expecting U.S. nuclear strike within a month and not a single day more.

If Russia is not ready to wage a nuclear war tomorrow, they are as good as dead today.

That's how serious this is. Forget Ukraine. It's way too late to worry about such insignificant details.

And the power of exponential escalation proves itself once again...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66108944




the WW3 i speculate will begin in March, around the next eclipse.

but, that the propaganda will build up steadily towards then.


And there may be military incidents, False Flags, leading up to that.


NATO shooting down some russian jets, and vice versa
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50585702


I like this idea, but if this is only the third blood moon, I fear what the finale may bring.... I also like the one poster who states WW3 will be like WW2 but on crack and roids, never thought about that, very good analysis, I wonder what will come of the nukes though, It may not even reach into Russia or US, but Europe and Middle East will be utterly destroyed....
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So, what happens when Obama signs Ukraine Freedom Act?

How do you think the Kremlin will respond?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64278712

It doesn't matter anymore.

If Russians respond to Ukraine now, they are 3 steps behind U.S. If they confiscate all the assets of the foreign banks on Russian territory, they are 2 steps behind. If they start threatening Saudis, they are just 1 step behind. Every move they have pulled so far has been lagging far behind U.S.

So, you can safely scratch that previous estimate of mine about Russia having 6 months to live. If I were something in the Russian leadership, I'd be expecting U.S. nuclear strike within a month and not a single day more.

If Russia is not ready to wage a nuclear war tomorrow, they are as good as dead today.

That's how serious this is. Forget Ukraine. It's way too late to worry about such insignificant details.

And the power of exponential escalation proves itself once again...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66108944


you underestimate Russia

WE WILL BURY YOU translated into the total mindfuck DOMINATION of the liberal FUCKTARDS now in charge.

google: yuri bezmenov

this is common knowledge here at GLP you DUMBASS
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


Remember not everyone knows everything and if you decieve yourself into thinking you do. Then you will fall forever...
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Consider that Russia posted Nulands conversation and proved their innocence.

btw..I'm not so foolish as to believe that I know everything..

but IMAO I know more then the luciferian NWO which is led by ignorant sheep, and is STUPID

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"...in one of the supermarkets [in Kaliningrad] customers bought out expensive alcohol, pampers, and food cans. At time there are up to 30 customers lined up per one cashier. (...) were also intensively purchased some household appliances (...) in addition to spices, childrens' goods, alcoholic beverages, and household chemical products. Despite that some stores did not see an increase in sales."



Perhaps the store had a sales promotion?


[link to michalw.narod.ru]


Clearly some stores only, not all of them.

What about the rest of Russia?

Do they expect some sort of blockade of Kaliningrad?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64391578


In Moscow people bought out Ikea. Honestly even if war will knock on my doors I have no idea why the hell I should go there and buy something...

Russian Market ‏@russian_market 52 min.
Meanwhile at @Ikea stores in Moscow. (Yes, Apple was clever enough to close its online store in Russia).

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 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


Situation in shops has nothing to do with a war. As always in Soviet Union and post-Soviet countries people just try to save somehow their savings because of devaluation.
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you know many Russians are quite intelligent and with University degrees. They see and feel what is happening, they read Western media too. Russian Tv are full of elaborated commentaries and discussions on international situation. There isn't one view sent by Putin, there are many views of many people who discuss something like this forum.

Indeed I don't know how Ikea goods will help them in the time of war, but that is instinctive reaction. Perhaps the US customers will make bigger lines buying everything, if something happens in Cuba or dollar devaluates.
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Ikea? Well, its full of supplies useful in a shtf scenario.
Candles, Blankets, Food stuffs that last a long time like candies, chocolates, nuts, fish, etc etc.
You could outfit a small bunker/cellar quite nicely from what they sell there.
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You want to know whats going to come the answer lies in this clue I give you. As evil uses child like ways to spew their utterances, when in fact they couldn't be further from the purity of a child. The clue goes as follows: Poroshenko, Poroshenko, Dormez-vous? Dormez-vous? Sonnez les matines! Sonnez les matines! Din, dan, don. Din, dan, don. Read the rest of the song and your will answer will come. Remember eyes always swift before the prize, and you will seek what thy will find. I will meet my brethren and sisterns at the tunnels light when this all ends. Remember which side do you choose if neither are truth sayers, and both purport lies.....
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...

It doesn't matter anymore.

If Russians respond to Ukraine now, they are 3 steps behind U.S. If they confiscate all the assets of the foreign banks on Russian territory, they are 2 steps behind. If they start threatening Saudis, they are just 1 step behind. Every move they have pulled so far has been lagging far behind U.S.

So, you can safely scratch that previous estimate of mine about Russia having 6 months to live. If I were something in the Russian leadership, I'd be expecting U.S. nuclear strike within a month and not a single day more.

If Russia is not ready to wage a nuclear war tomorrow, they are as good as dead today.

That's how serious this is. Forget Ukraine. It's way too late to worry about such insignificant details.

And the power of exponential escalation proves itself once again...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66108944


you underestimate Russia

WE WILL BURY YOU translated into the total mindfuck DOMINATION of the liberal FUCKTARDS now in charge.

google: yuri bezmenov

this is common knowledge here at GLP you DUMBASS
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


Remember not everyone knows everything and if you decieve yourself into thinking you do. Then you will fall forever...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65700688


Consider that Russia posted Nulands conversation and proved their innocence.

btw..I'm not so foolish as to belive that I know everything..

but IMAO I know more then the luciferian NWO which is led by ignorant sheep, and is STUPID
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Theres forces out their that can bewilder us, and astonish us at the same time. Many who think they are rightious will and shall fall. Remember if something doesnt seem right to yourself then it is not. And luckily and blessfully enough, the creator God knows and is in control of all.
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So, what happens when Obama signs Ukraine Freedom Act?

How do you think the Kremlin will respond?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64278712

It doesn't matter anymore.

If Russians respond to Ukraine now, they are 3 steps behind U.S. If they confiscate all the assets of the foreign banks on Russian territory, they are 2 steps behind. If they start threatening Saudis, they are just 1 step behind. Every move they have pulled so far has been lagging far behind U.S.

So, you can safely scratch that previous estimate of mine about Russia having 6 months to live. If I were something in the Russian leadership, I'd be expecting U.S. nuclear strike within a month and not a single day more.

If Russia is not ready to wage a nuclear war tomorrow, they are as good as dead today.

That's how serious this is. Forget Ukraine. It's way too late to worry about such insignificant details.

And the power of exponential escalation proves itself once again...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66108944




the WW3 i speculate will begin in March, around the next eclipse.

but, that the propaganda will build up steadily towards then.


And there may be military incidents, False Flags, leading up to that.


NATO shooting down some russian jets, and vice versa
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50585702


I like this idea, but if this is only the third blood moon, I fear what the finale may bring.... I also like the one poster who states WW3 will be like WW2 but on crack and roids, never thought about that, very good analysis, I wonder what will come of the nukes though, It may not even reach into Russia or US, but Europe and Middle East will be utterly destroyed....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65700688



this is just my own theory, and it is just a guess,

war begins around the eclipse in march, starting as a conventional war,

and ends with a nuclear exchange, around the eclipses in late September.

all the major cities of the USA and EU destroyed,

China also too,


and the elites get their 80% population reduction.





GLP