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UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387

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As far as the passports go, there is no difficulty to use Ukrainian passport to go into Russia, that is an idiocy.

The truth is that Russian names are different from Ukrainian enough that Russian heritage is not a problem for determination at a border.
There is in the obsessive record keeping of the soviets no doubt still archives with who was imported into Ukraine and Crimea from Soviet Russia.
The real issue is that former Communist party members imported to dilute Ukrainian nationalism have no difficulty proving who they want to be represented by and an affection for communism in general and ethnic Russian superiority continue to run deep.

There is but one purpose for passports and that is to provoke an incident and invade Ukraine.
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For those history illiterates that proclaim the former USSRs capability for ramping up for war, you forget the massive military and productivity aid from the USA which provided all manner of armaments, transport and production capacity and direct and indirect support to harass the German forces.

Do they not teach ANY history in the US anymore beyond the information-freeshort attention span propaganda course.
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Exactly ! This aid was huge and very important, especially in the first 2-3 years of the war.

As for propaganda, it was more or less similar in the USSR and is still in Russia. There are a lot of concealment, misinformation and even lies.
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What is preferable ww3 or global government?
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The fact remains that Russia cannot support itself with food without Ukraine.
Knowing that, they used domination instead of negotiation to obtain the best terms for Russians, not Ukrainians.

The Russians will attack one way or another fairly soon, because they cant afford to pay market price for their food.
In the end they will attack in order to steal food that they prefer not to compete and pay for.
They (ie the Russian Oligarchs with their familial connection to Israel) need to steal the wealth of Ukraine, and all the Putin promoters are firm believers in institutionalized theft from whoever they choose for the chosen ones.
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That one is hilarious coming from a North American.

See, your country has spent the last 20 years invading other sovereign nations to steal their oil, and now you claim that because Russia doesn't want another puppet government on its borders it's because they don't want to pay the market price for food.

World = Murika, in fact I bet that from where you stand the rest of the world could very well be destroyed that you wouldn't care, would you ?
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#‎Crimea‬ pro-Russian demonstration in ‪#‎Sebastopol‬, Crimea, Autonomous Republic of Ukraine (photo 1). Hundreds of citizens are enlisting in the anti-fascist militias to combat what the European media have called "self-defence forces", composed mostly by ultranationalist and paramilitary perfectly organized and coordinated. The anti-fascist militias are also putting together with Ak-47 (photo 3). They claim that they are being assaulted and attacked by armed ultra-nationalist groups, and before the bloodshed, they won't go back, they ensure that they will not subject to fascism
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For those history illiterates that proclaim the former USSRs capability for ramping up for war, you forget the massive military and productivity aid from the USA which provided all manner of armaments, transport and production capacity and direct and indirect support to harass the German forces.

Do they not teach ANY history in the US anymore beyond the information-freeshort attention span propaganda course.
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Exactly ! This aid was huge and very important, especially in the first 2-3 years of the war.

As for propaganda, it was more or less similar in the USSR and is still in Russia. There are a lot of concealment, misinformation and even lies.
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I think some of the Russia fear is based on old Cold War mentality of parents who were taught Russia is the arch enemy. Obviously they are not equal to the west but people have this idea that they are worth fearing. It is debatable.
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WW3 is world govt, that is the intent

the intent is to follow old testament template and loot then destroy the gentile.

The ot is a long story about why gentiles dont deserve to live.
Its a celebration of extermination.
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WW3 is world govt, that is the intent

the intent is to follow old testament template and loot then destroy the gentile.

The ot is a long story about why gentiles dont deserve to live.
Its a celebration of extermination.
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When people think they are special because of their connection to God yet fail to do his will they become some sort of monstrous parody. I can't hate an entire ethnic group but you do make a point.
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Russia cannot even try to think to invade Crimea at all as their military is simply not capable to fight a war. They have a few neat toys, but their main army is junk and would lose a large scale conflict in a short time.

If Russia even tries to instigate any kind of conflict, the world would simply stop all trade, and how long do you think before a new maidan movement would reach Moscow, or St.Petersburg?

Russia isn't as unified as the forum here thinks. Russia is basically the Moscow Region and St.Petersburg region and a few other cities. The rest of the country simply don't care much what goes on as they're busy trying to survive.

Putin/Medvedev is in the same boat as Yanukovich, and they both know that if they press too many buttons too fast, they'll have an Ukraine situation on their hands faster than they could blink. We're already seeing the beginning now.

The worst we'll see is a few skirmishes before all calm down.

***There is always the chance that the world goes full retard though...then all bets are off.
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LOL heres another one of these guys again trying to sound off that RUSSIA cannot hope to fight a war there. You guys are in for one hell of a surprise from what i can see lol. Enjoy
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Again and again all manner of posters make spurious claims that cannot be proven and dont even make any sense.

There are no outsiders doing anything in Ukraine, no nato, no US, nobody but Russians pretending that Russian rules remain.

Yet these same posters fail to give the same rights to the majority of Ukrainians that they gave minority hebrews in 1947 while they ethnically cleansed the former palestine.

Over and over pretend Americans claim Ukraine has no right to exist within its established borders, No right to create the most comfortable climate for its own people and culture.

No threats or attacks have occured to ethnic Russians yet they are demanding Russia cancel Ukraines independence to enforce Russian ethnics remaining in charge to the degree where Russian dominating Lenin statues and KGB memorials littered the nation in prominent display.
If Ukraine has no right for territorial integrity then Americans have no right for territorial integrity.
And maybe thats the plan.
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All i can say to your post is a small LOL. You have no clue what you are talking about haha
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Indeed the passports is a very cunning trick.
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Standard fake commie propoganda.
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Check this SHILL out...
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Putin Orders Troops To Crimea Passes, Warns NATO Of War

A new report prepared by the Ministry of Defense (MoD) on the telephonic conversation held earlier today between General Staff Chief, General of the Army Valery Gerasimov and Supreme Allied Commander Europe (SACEUR) of NATO Allied Command Operations, US Air Force General Philipp Breedlove, states that Russia has “informed” the Western Alliance of its “full intention” to protect the Russian citizens of Crimea, even if it means all-out war. More grimly, this report continues, General Gerasimov was “advised” by President Putin to contact his NATO counterpart to inform the West of an “immediate order” given to Black Sea Naval Infantry and Coastal Defense forces in the Crimea oblast to protect the vital Isthmus of Perekop, which is the narrow 5-7 km wide strip of land that connects the peninsula of Crimea to the mainland of Ukraine…

[link to www.eutimes.net]
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For those history illiterates that proclaim the former USSRs capability for ramping up for war, you forget the massive military and productivity aid from the USA which provided all manner of armaments, transport and production capacity and direct and indirect support to harass the German forces.

Do they not teach ANY history in the US anymore beyond the information-freeshort attention span propaganda course.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20912


Exactly ! This aid was huge and very important, especially in the first 2-3 years of the war.

As for propaganda, it was more or less similar in the USSR and is still in Russia. There are a lot of concealment, misinformation and even lies.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48581806


I think some of the Russia fear is based on old Cold War mentality of parents who were taught Russia is the arch enemy. Obviously they are not equal to the west but people have this idea that they are worth fearing. It is debatable.
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Your are right, but just a couple of points: 1). when saying Russia and Russians in the first place Ukrainians mean Moscow, in particular, Kremlin, and Russian imperasts (persons pronouncing imperialist views and supporting imperialist ambitions); 2). there is no fear, but there is a failure of trust to everything related to Russia and especially to Kremlin.
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Putin Orders Troops To Crimea Passes, Warns NATO Of War

A new report prepared by the Ministry of Defense (MoD) on the telephonic conversation held earlier today between General Staff Chief, General of the Army Valery Gerasimov and Supreme Allied Commander Europe (SACEUR) of NATO Allied Command Operations, US Air Force General Philipp Breedlove, states that Russia has “informed” the Western Alliance of its “full intention” to protect the Russian citizens of Crimea, even if it means all-out war. More grimly, this report continues, General Gerasimov was “advised” by President Putin to contact his NATO counterpart to inform the West of an “immediate order” given to Black Sea Naval Infantry and Coastal Defense forces in the Crimea oblast to protect the vital Isthmus of Perekop, which is the narrow 5-7 km wide strip of land that connects the peninsula of Crimea to the mainland of Ukraine…

[link to www.eutimes.net]
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Thanks for this
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Putin Orders Troops To Crimea Passes, Warns NATO Of War

A new report prepared by the Ministry of Defense (MoD) on the telephonic conversation held earlier today between General Staff Chief, General of the Army Valery Gerasimov and Supreme Allied Commander Europe (SACEUR) of NATO Allied Command Operations, US Air Force General Philipp Breedlove, states that Russia has “informed” the Western Alliance of its “full intention” to protect the Russian citizens of Crimea, even if it means all-out war. More grimly, this report continues, General Gerasimov was “advised” by President Putin to contact his NATO counterpart to inform the West of an “immediate order” given to Black Sea Naval Infantry and Coastal Defense forces in the Crimea oblast to protect the vital Isthmus of Perekop, which is the narrow 5-7 km wide strip of land that connects the peninsula of Crimea to the mainland of Ukraine…

[link to www.eutimes.net]
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Try to avoid Sorcha Fail.. it'll rot your brain faster than crack
Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken.
The Force shall free me.

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The fear of Russia is mostly because they came in shot the men, took all the property for the soviet state and for themselves and raped the women.
They left the public with nothing, and enforced a slave labor state, suppression of the culture, language and tradition.
It may have something to do with Russian Gulag guards

But nothing real serious.

If youre not sure as any living woman in Berlin in april 1945.

The Nazis murderers were hunted down and hanged, the Communist murderers were made into oligarchs or left for Israel and then the US.
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For those history illiterates that proclaim the former USSRs capability for ramping up for war, you forget the massive military and productivity aid from the USA which provided all manner of armaments, transport and production capacity and direct and indirect support to harass the German forces.

Do they not teach ANY history in the US anymore beyond the information-freeshort attention span propaganda course.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20912


Exactly ! This aid was huge and very important, especially in the first 2-3 years of the war.

As for propaganda, it was more or less similar in the USSR and is still in Russia. There are a lot of concealment, misinformation and even lies.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48581806


I think some of the Russia fear is based on old Cold War mentality of parents who were taught Russia is the arch enemy. Obviously they are not equal to the west but people have this idea that they are worth fearing. It is debatable.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54571335


Your are right, but just a couple of points: 1). when saying Russia and Russians in the first place Ukrainians mean Moscow, in particular, Kremlin, and Russian imperasts (persons pronouncing imperialist views and supporting imperialist ambitions); 2). there is no fear, but there is a failure of trust to everything related to Russia and especially to Kremlin.
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That makes sense.
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The MoD was told that Russia has every intent to confiscate Ukrainian independence because its easier than anything else.

It will be a mess, and its all based on entitlement to steal exactly as promoted by every old testament tale in that self published book of excuses to first kill, and then take.
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Russia cannot even try to think to invade Crimea at all as their military is simply not capable to fight a war. They have a few neat toys, but their main army is junk and would lose a large scale conflict in a short time.

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"a large scale conflict" against who

Have NATO forces already deployed in the Crimea ready to face the Russians?
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no need to do that. There are NATO forces very close there. Romania, Bulgaria, Poland, Estonia
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[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]


things about to become even more messy get ready .....l.
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things about to become even more messy get ready .....l.
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thingd seem to be heating up again ...
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thingd seem to be heating up again ...
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??? What are you seeing that i do not?
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