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Re: Mad World
And abused kiddos become abusers.
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Maybe what it really comes down to, is being able to trust someone when you’re totally vulnerable. Without that trust it becomes a terror experience.

Within fantasy you are safe..going out and actively seeking those experiences are not safe.


Placing yourself in compromising situations, walks that line.

Whenever you’ve explained your terror experiences to me, they didn’t sound sexual.
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This is why people seek professionals.

Submission guaranteed.
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Very good point.

Consent is key. Even professionals might change their mind and choose not and that’s okay too.
Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
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Re: Mad World
That fetish was born from perversion, not love.

My two cents.
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Lol like anything it's not just about how it's approached, but everyone views things differently
 Quoting: Sol-tari


Perspective

I mentioned that yesterday, I believe

I'm just talking though

I have no idea about what :)
 Quoting: Huginn


chuckle
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That fetish was born from perversion, not love.

My two cents.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85038092


Lol like anything it's not just about how it's approached, but everyone views things differently
 Quoting: Sol-tari


Perspective

I mentioned that yesterday, I believe

I'm just talking though

I have no idea about what :)
 Quoting: Huginn


chuckle
 Quoting: Sol-tari


Shhh
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Re: Mad World
Maybe what it really comes down to, is being able to trust someone when you’re totally vulnerable. Without that trust it becomes a terror experience.

Within fantasy you are safe..going out an actively seeking those experiences are not safe.


Placing yourself in compromising situations, walks that line.

Whenever you’ve explained your terror experiences to me, they didn’t sound sexual.
 Quoting: Seer777


Yes. You are absolutely right about that.
The issue stems mainly from compromised judgement about whom you can trust to dom.
In a non-traumatized person, this is easier.
For someone whose sexual preferences arise from trauma, they tend to make this mistake a lot, and not necessarily because they want to.
Sexual preferences like mine, when known, can make a person very easy to manipulate.
 Quoting: I Am Setsuna


Oh, I should probably add, because I didn't fully comprehend what you said Seer

Yes, the terror experiences were generally not sexual, almost never

Here's the thing, the Terror experiences, the Trauma is generally not sexually arousing

But after it is over, I seek sexual experiences or fantasies that replicate what happened in the trauma
and pain fits the bill

so it's more of an aftereffect
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Re: Mad World
Shit happens, right?
But you can try to get out of the cycle if you´re STRONG (or willing) enough.
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01/03/2023 04:41 PM
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Lol like anything it's not just about how it's approached, but everyone views things differently
 Quoting: Sol-tari


Perspective

I mentioned that yesterday, I believe

I'm just talking though

I have no idea about what :)
 Quoting: Huginn


chuckle
 Quoting: Sol-tari


Shhh
 Quoting: Huginn



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Re: Mad World
That fetish was born from perversion, not love.

My two cents.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85038092


Fetishes are born of pleasureable experiences that are not directly percieved as sexual.

Perversion is usually born of excitement induced by unconventional practices.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67206197


......yeah.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85038092


No...
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01/03/2023 04:42 PM
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Re: Mad World
Maybe what it really comes down to, is being able to trust someone when you’re totally vulnerable. Without that trust it becomes a terror experience.

Within fantasy you are safe..going out and actively seeking those experiences are not safe.


Placing yourself in compromising situations, walks that line.

Whenever you’ve explained your terror experiences to me, they didn’t sound sexual.
 Quoting: Seer777


This is why people seek professionals.

Submission guaranteed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67206197


Very good point.

Consent is key. Even professionals might change their mind and choose not and that’s okay too.
 Quoting: Seer777


Yes, without being too scandalous I will say that I have once had a professional experience, and professionals are very adherent to terms/boundaries. It is generally a good experience if approached in the culture of the scene.
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01/03/2023 04:43 PM

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Perspective

I mentioned that yesterday, I believe

I'm just talking though

I have no idea about what :)
 Quoting: Huginn


chuckle
 Quoting: Sol-tari


Shhh
 Quoting: Huginn



 Quoting: Sol-tari



Lololol

I love you man we always click LMAO
d00bious
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Re: Mad World
Maybe what it really comes down to, is being able to trust someone when you’re totally vulnerable. Without that trust it becomes a terror experience.

Within fantasy you are safe..going out an actively seeking those experiences are not safe.


Placing yourself in compromising situations, walks that line.

Whenever you’ve explained your terror experiences to me, they didn’t sound sexual.
 Quoting: Seer777


Yes. You are absolutely right about that.
The issue stems mainly from compromised judgement about whom you can trust to dom.
In a non-traumatized person, this is easier.
For someone whose sexual preferences arise from trauma, they tend to make this mistake a lot, and not necessarily because they want to.
Sexual preferences like mine, when known, can make a person very easy to manipulate.
 Quoting: I Am Setsuna


Oh, I should probably add, because I didn't fully comprehend what you said Seer

Yes, the terror experiences were generally not sexual, almost never

Here's the thing, the Terror experiences, the Trauma is generally not sexually arousing

But after it is over, I seek sexual experiences or fantasies that replicate what happened in the trauma
and pain fits the bill

so it's more of an aftereffect
 Quoting: I Am Setsuna


Do it with girls. Nice girls.

Just a suggestion. afro
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Do it with girls. Nice girls.

Just a suggestion. afro
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hmm

I'm not opposed.
Maybe someday.
Sol-tari

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chuckle
 Quoting: Sol-tari


Shhh
 Quoting: Huginn



 Quoting: Sol-tari



Lololol

I love you man we always click LMAO
 Quoting: Huginn


solcheers
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Re: Mad World
That fetish was born from perversion, not love.

My two cents.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85038092


Fetishes are born of pleasureable experiences that are not directly percieved as sexual.

Perversion is usually born of excitement induced by unconventional practices.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67206197


......yeah.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85038092


No...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67206197


Ok give us the official textbook version.
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Fetishes are born of pleasureable experiences that are not directly percieved as sexual.

Perversion is usually born of excitement induced by unconventional practices.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67206197


......yeah.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85038092


No...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67206197


Ok give us the official textbook version.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85038092



per·ver·sion
/pərˈvərZH(ə)n/
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noun

2.
sexual behavior or desire that is considered abnormal or unacceptable.
"his book revolutionized ideas about sexual perversion"
Similar:
deviance
deviancy
deviation
unnaturalness
corruption
depravity


as you can see, abnormal and unacceptable are extremely subjective
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01/03/2023 04:51 PM
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Re: Mad World
Like they´re trying to normalize child abuse these days...
Just moving the goalposts of "normality" for their own agendas and benefits.
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Like they´re trying to normalize child abuse these days...
Just moving the goalposts of "normality" for their own agendas and benefits.
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what's wrong with two consensual adult partners having weird sex if the terms are agreeable to both and it is done in a healthy way with clear boundaries?

I know it can go badly, but it can also be fine.
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Like they´re trying to normalize child abuse these days...
Just moving the goalposts of "normality" for their own agendas and benefits.
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what's wrong with two consensual adult partners having weird sex if the terms are agreeable to both and it is done in a healthy way with clear boundaries?

I know it can go badly, but it can also be fine.
 Quoting: I Am Setsuna


Sure. But anything with vulnerable adolescents is out of line if you ask me.

That´s brainwashing/abuse.
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Like they´re trying to normalize child abuse these days...
Just moving the goalposts of "normality" for their own agendas and benefits.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85038092


what's wrong with two consensual adult partners having weird sex if the terms are agreeable to both and it is done in a healthy way with clear boundaries?

I know it can go badly, but it can also be fine.
 Quoting: I Am Setsuna


Sure. But anything with vulnerable adolescents is out of line if you ask me.

That´s brainwashing/abuse.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85038092


No one is suggesting this, thus far
d00bious
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Fetishes are born of pleasureable experiences that are not directly percieved as sexual.

Perversion is usually born of excitement induced by unconventional practices.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67206197


......yeah.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85038092


No...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67206197


Ok give us the official textbook version.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85038092


Read above and note the seperation.

The difference between rough tickling or a nipple tweak causing energetic tension and release; or, Lawrence of Arabia being raped by multiple arabs and upon his arrival in England ordering several rowdy boys to rough him up and sodomize him as often as his lower extremities could heal up for another session.
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Like they´re trying to normalize child abuse these days...
Just moving the goalposts of "normality" for their own agendas and benefits.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85038092


what's wrong with two consensual adult partners having weird sex if the terms are agreeable to both and it is done in a healthy way with clear boundaries?

I know it can go badly, but it can also be fine.
 Quoting: I Am Setsuna


Sure. But anything with vulnerable adolescents is out of line if you ask me.

That´s brainwashing/abuse.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85038092


No one is suggesting this, thus far
 Quoting: Huginn


Absolutely would never even dream of putting a kid in that arena.
What I am speaking of is adult sex only.
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what's wrong with two consensual adult partners having weird sex if the terms are agreeable to both and it is done in a healthy way with clear boundaries?

I know it can go badly, but it can also be fine.
 Quoting: I Am Setsuna


Sure. But anything with vulnerable adolescents is out of line if you ask me.

That´s brainwashing/abuse.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85038092


No one is suggesting this, thus far
 Quoting: Huginn


Absolutely would never even dream of putting a kid in that arena.
What I am speaking of is adult sex only.
 Quoting: I Am Setsuna


I know.

I just thought it was an odd pivot
d00bious
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what's wrong with two consensual adult partners having weird sex if the terms are agreeable to both and it is done in a healthy way with clear boundaries?

I know it can go badly, but it can also be fine.
 Quoting: I Am Setsuna


Sure. But anything with vulnerable adolescents is out of line if you ask me.

That´s brainwashing/abuse.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85038092


No one is suggesting this, thus far
 Quoting: Huginn


Absolutely would never even dream of putting a kid in that arena.
What I am speaking of is adult sex only.
 Quoting: I Am Setsuna

How was this fetish/condition born?
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Sure. But anything with vulnerable adolescents is out of line if you ask me.

That´s brainwashing/abuse.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85038092


No one is suggesting this, thus far
 Quoting: Huginn


Absolutely would never even dream of putting a kid in that arena.
What I am speaking of is adult sex only.
 Quoting: I Am Setsuna


I know.

I just thought it was an odd pivot
 Quoting: Huginn


yeah, it is...
no need to slippery slope the situation
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Sure. But anything with vulnerable adolescents is out of line if you ask me.

That´s brainwashing/abuse.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85038092


No one is suggesting this, thus far
 Quoting: Huginn


Absolutely would never even dream of putting a kid in that arena.
What I am speaking of is adult sex only.
 Quoting: I Am Setsuna

How was this fetish/condition born?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85038092


It depends on the person.
Yes, I may have childhood sexual trauma, but that doesn't mean I can't be a healthy masochist, if I do the work on myself to confine it to proper situations and trustworthy partners.
At least, I hope.
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Like they´re trying to normalize child abuse these days...
Just moving the goalposts of "normality" for their own agendas and benefits.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85038092


what's wrong with two consensual adult partners having weird sex if the terms are agreeable to both and it is done in a healthy way with clear boundaries?

I know it can go badly, but it can also be fine.
 Quoting: I Am Setsuna


Sure. But anything with vulnerable adolescents is out of line if you ask me.

That´s brainwashing/abuse.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85038092


Lol withdrawn

Last Edited by Sol-tari on 01/03/2023 05:01 PM
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No one is suggesting this, thus far
 Quoting: Huginn


Absolutely would never even dream of putting a kid in that arena.
What I am speaking of is adult sex only.
 Quoting: I Am Setsuna

How was this fetish/condition born?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85038092


It depends on the person.
Yes, I may have childhood sexual trauma, but that doesn't mean I can't be a healthy masochist, if I do the work on myself to confine it to proper situations and trustworthy partners.
At least, I hope.
 Quoting: I Am Setsuna


It shouldn´t happen in the first place. Is my point.

But the consequences are subjective, yes.
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Absolutely would never even dream of putting a kid in that arena.
What I am speaking of is adult sex only.
 Quoting: I Am Setsuna

How was this fetish/condition born?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85038092


It depends on the person.
Yes, I may have childhood sexual trauma, but that doesn't mean I can't be a healthy masochist, if I do the work on myself to confine it to proper situations and trustworthy partners.
At least, I hope.
 Quoting: I Am Setsuna


It shouldn´t happen in the first place. Is my point.

But the consequences are subjective, yes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85038092


Agree, childhood sexual abuse should never happen.
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Re: Mad World
If we ever meet, I can whip you.

I´ve never whipped anyone.

chuckle
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Sorry if that was out of line...


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